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Orange Decides Against Code Signing

Posted by timothy on from the diminishing-returns dept.

cemysce writes "Orange has decided to yeild to developer and owner pressure and remove code signing requirements from their Orange SPV phone, based on the Microsoft Smartphone 2002 platform. This move was taken after a workaround to the code signing became widespread."

11 comments

  1. YA YOU TELL'EM ORANGE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  2. I don't understand by jsse · · Score: 1

    I among one of the handheld developers don't understand why should we spend time on something strictly controlled by a proprietary vendor, while we have so many other platforms to work with, and with much bigger market share?

    1. Re:I don't understand by ktorn · · Score: 1

      Honestly I think proprietary vendors do not expect to see the majority of the developers out there (independent devs or small software houses) to adopt their technologies. I bet they've already stuck their deals with a selected few technology partners who will produce their 'flagship' applications.
      So unless you're working for one of these few companies, why worry?

  3. Why must a developer use smartphone by jsse · · Score: 1

    I'm an O2 developer. O2 is basically an iPaq+mobile phone combo. Our clients believed that it's powerful yet easy to develop apps on it. The biggest mistake was adopting Embedded VB 3.0 for our development.

    Turn out this is an extremely crippled software - lacking dll it's supposed to have(xml dll, for example, and we must import the win2k's version because we don't have source to compile it natively, and pray it works well on CE), and crap SQL parser(can't select numeric field! No select count(*).. sorry!), etc. It's like hell working with it, when the apps requirements getting more complicated.

    Our hope for better version of it is totally shattered by Microsoft's initiative in 'Smartphone' and their next dev. platform Smart Device is totally incompatible with EmVB. Oh dear EmVB, RIP! :(

    Now let me get this straight Microsoft, you make products obsoleted our every major development on your ever changing handheld OS, now you want us to pay to sigh so as to make our stuffs run, then you may obsolete our work pretty soon in next major initiative?

    GET REAL!

    *continue maintaining crappy EmVB code after ranting* *sob*

    1. Re:Why must a developer use smartphone by janvo · · Score: 1

      Bloody hell, obviously you can't code worth shit. I've been developing with WinCE (all platforms) for 5 years now and it's come a long, long way. The problems you describe all stem from poor design decisions. If you actually did your research, you would find that there are many, many options out there for what you want to do. For example, if you want to use XML, try using the Expat parser - I do, and it's great. If you need a rdbms, there's SQL Server CE (has it's issues), Oracle Lite (also has it's issues) and Sybase Ultralite (which i think is the best out of the three) - but all in all, there are some very good tools out there. If you would have done any research, you would have found out quite soon that eVB sucks shit and the only real choice for embedded development on that platform is to go with C++ or Java (powered by Jeode JVM)... Do your research b4 you start shittin on the OS.

    2. Re:Why must a developer use smartphone by jsse · · Score: 1

      Yeah I know eVB sucks. I'm not the one who chose this platform; If I were, I'd definitely chose C++ or Java. I wish you were my PM/SA - they chose eVB because it's free, regardless of its downside. :(

      Free piece of crap is still crap.

    3. Re:Why must a developer use smartphone by janvo · · Score: 1

      My view would be to make the switch as soon as possible... there's many reasons to do this, and eVC is downloadable as a free toolkit as far as I know. I too am going to be working with the O2 soon, it's a very nice device, I may be able to help if you need it.

    4. Re:Why must a developer use smartphone by jsse · · Score: 1

      That's very kind of you. Thanks in advance.

  4. You Betcha' by orthogonal · · Score: 0

    Yah, I develop killer app for Orange SmartPhone.

    You betcha'!

    Yah, I pay for priviledge, you betcha'!

    Yah, I tell all friends, you buy Orange SmartPhone, you betcha'!

    --
    Opinions on the Twiddler2 hand-held keyboard?
  5. Only for beta testing by Fruny · · Score: 3, Informative

    Straight from the article.

    "[Orange] will now allow these to run beta code on Orange SPVs without it being signed first."

    "However, Orange still requires developers to undergo the code signing process to be able to sell finished applications to Orange SPV owners"

  6. *BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    It is official; Netcraft now confirms: *BSD is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying