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At Last, PNG An ISO Standard Under Publication
Jeex writes "After its first draft back in '95, the Portable Network Graphics (PNG) format is finally, as of 2003-04-25, an ISO standard under publication. Links: ISO technical programme: JTC 1/SC 24, PNG Homepage."
MS will still not have proper PNG transparency in IE?
Just now its ISO official?
Norris/Palin 2012
Fact: We deserve leaders who can kick your ass and field dress your carcass.
The reason that it wasn't standardized before this is because nobody could take it serious with that cheesy website. ISO apparently thought PNG was made up by some teenager in his parents' basement.
After leading the cry against the evils of patents and the overzealous attacks on end users by corporate lawyers, It's nice to see that Slashdot still uses GIFs.
Fools.
Yes, that's right, 8 years later, Internet Explorer still doesn't support PNG properly!
I suppose this makes it easier for ISO to destandardize JPEG like was rumored previously. My question is, how long from PNG's ISO standardization and full acceptance by the community of browsers (e.g. Mozilla, Opera, IE, etc.) I live in the Unix environment, so I'm not aware of IE has given full transparency to transparent PNGs yet--that's why I'm asking.
What those who want activist courts fear is rule by the people.
I would imagine Slashdot will switch to PNG sometime after IE has proper support for it.
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
PS - do you prefer sucking Hemos's dick or CmdrTaco's dick?
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
I bet you also imagine having sex. With a partner.
IE supports png better than linux supports IE.
I prefer having sex with my wife. Please grow up.
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
This is why I prefer Microsoft Products . The standards just take TOO LONG to make. 1995? There are just too many people getting involved when standards are made.
Good luck ISO, International Slow-down-the evolution Organization !
If we compare with the history of Unix and BSD in general, we would still stick to command-line windows in Xwindows if it had not been for Microsoft Windows. Thank you Microsoft.
SVG has been standardized, and is a more than suitable replacement for png. As well, the LZW patent expires in 3 months, and png doesn't offer any advantages over gif, and numerous disadvantages (like lack of support for animations).
So, I must say that Linux support IE better than IE supports PNG :)
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
Not true at all. You can run IE under Wine or VMWare. IE, on the other hand, cannot render PNGs properly. It also can't handle many standard features of HTML proeprly, such as the object element. It also cannot handle HTTP properly - doing what is explicitly forbidden by the specification and guessing at mime-types. What else? Oh yes, it has hideous CSS bugs, and has 13 upatched security holes.
Fact: IE on Windows is a piece of shit.
YHBT. HAND.
Once they accept it as a standard, we can find out how many people claim to have patents.
Probably about the same time that the hypocritical fucks who complain about PNG not working in IE shut up and switch to a better browser instead of just complaining about the one they have.
And how the fuck can web developers, the people who complain about PNG support in IE get everybody else to switch browser, brainiac?
Ha! I wasn't really trying to have a rational conversation, I just don't have anything better to do. So there!
Why gloat about your lack of anything better to do than try and look stupid?
I'm not talking about web developers. Everyone I know (besides myself, naturally) uses IE, and everyone I know complains about it. Yet when I tell them about all the other browsers that they can try, they just stick with IE, and keep complaining. If the majority of the web users keep this attitude, those web designers are going to be stuck with GIF for a lot longer than they should be. Sure, good PNG support in IE would be a good thing, but in the meantime the end users are going to have to do something to make it happen.
I'm not talking about web developers. Everyone I know (besides myself, naturally) uses IE, and everyone I know complains about it.
Maybe, but I bet they aren't saying things like "oh I wish IE supported PNG!", are they?
We have a perfectly fine standard for years...but now we get to *pay* for the privilege of getting ahold of the standard. Sigh.
May we never see th
The GIF patent expires on June 30, 2003 -- that's only a month away, so get your complaining in ASAP!
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I'm so glad the "do you pronounce GIF as giff or jiff" debate will soon be replaced by the "do you pronounce PNG as ping or p-n-g" debate. On another topic, I always enjoy the "how do you pronounce Linux, Lie-nux because Linus is not pronounced Linnus or as Linnux" argument, though that has mostly gone away now.
a flimsy one at best as MNG is "PNG+animation", in the same way GIF89a is "GIF87+animation".
There's a big difference: Out of the box, the most recent released version of Microsoft Internet Explorer can display GIF89a animations. Out of the box, the most recent released version of Microsoft Internet Explorer cannot display MNG animations.
Will I retire or break 10K?
PNG is pronounced like the duck.
Will I retire or break 10K?
The GIF patent expires on June 30, 2003
Not if Unisys bands together with Fraunhofer, Charlie Northrup, and big pharmaceutical manufacturers and demands that the U.S. Congress enact a Cher Patent Term Harmonization Act.
that's only a month away
Try two months, which is more than enough for intense lobbying. How long did it take to get USAPATRIOT passed?
Will I retire or break 10K?
looking at the practically unused JPEG2000 format (ISO/IEC 15444-1) this is unlikely to bring PNG any more support then it already has.