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System Shock 2 Enhanced?

Mathias Wittlock writes "Etienne Aubert has created a mod for the classic System Shock 2 which replaces all models with much better looking, higher polygon ones. Maybe a reason to pick up this game again?" You can also find more info about this classic Looking Glass-legacy title at fan site Sshock2.com - and this is yet another good mod for an older game.

23 comments

  1. Sw33t! by Terminal+Saint · · Score: 0, Troll

    Well it's about bloody time!

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  2. Voodoo 2 by neglige · · Score: 1

    Let's see if my trusted old Voodoo 2 board can handle the new graphics :)

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  3. Windows 2000 support? by neostorm · · Score: 1

    I love to see unofficial upkeep of past games, especially when they're as good as this one.

    But would it be too much to ask for win2k support? I've searched for Win2k enabling patches, or methods to get this and the other killer Looking Glass titles (Thief 1&2) to run on my favorite OS, but until a dedicated group like this remedies that I think I'm out of luck.

    1. Re:Windows 2000 support? by BlueArchon · · Score: 4, Informative

      Read the FAQ:
      http://www.irrationalgames.com/shock2/faq.cf m#2.2

      Played through SS2 a few times on a windows 2000 computer.

    2. Re:Windows 2000 support? by neostorm · · Score: 1

      I believe I've tried that. I don't recall the specific issue that kept me from playing then, as it was several years back.

      I'm glad it worked for you and someone was able to enjoy it, so maybe I should give it another shot.

    3. Re:Windows 2000 support? by chrish · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm running Thief II: The Metal Age on Windows XP (and previously, on 2000 and 98SE) with no troubles... it even installs properly. I do have to re-install the flaming Indeo codecs every few months though so the movies will play, but that's not a big hardship.

      With Thief: The Dark Project, you need to use a command-line argument with the installer to force it to install on 2000 or XP...

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    4. Re:Windows 2000 support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Using this method only nabs me a "This product cannot be installed on Windows NT due to a Microsoft DirectX 6.1 limitation" dialog.

      Would you mind posting more on how you did this? Because I'd love to play this game.

    5. Re:Windows 2000 support? by BlueArchon · · Score: 1

      I installed the game using the switch mentioned in the FAQ, and then patched the game. Then it kinda worked, crashed every 5 minutes or so, but that was a problem with my current motherboard, was running something with the VIA133 chipset, but after upgrading to a nForce I had no problems whatsoever with SS2.

      Sorry I can't help you anymore with this... SS2 is a game that deserves to be played :)

  4. Awesome by ChadN · · Score: 1

    I just reinstalled SS2 to finish playing from where I left off a couple years ago (graduate school intervened). I was always bit disappointed with the models, and with my current machine I have horsepower to spare.

    No need to wait for Doom 3, I can start getting creeped out RIGHT NOW! (With the funky movements of the original models, the more detailed version will probably be VERY disturbing)

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  5. uuuuu...... by superultra · · Score: 0, Troll

    kiiiIIIIiillllll...mmeeeeEEEeee.....

  6. SS2 working with Wine yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    There was progress but dunno if it's working now. The screenshots are oldish.

  7. Cool, but will they update the environments? by Bagels · · Score: 3, Interesting

    These new models look quite cool, but it would also be nice to update some of the inanimate objects (or, if they're being thrown around by explosions, technically animate) and textures - in the screenshots, the models look just a tad incongruous, simply because they're so much more detailed than their surroundings. BTW, System Shock 2 is now considered abandonware (as already mentioned, its makers went bankrupt), so you can find it on most abandonware sites. Technically speaking, that's not legal, but I believe most of these sites get permission from the original creators of any games they put up.

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    1. Re:Cool, but will they update the environments? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      System Shock 2 is not abandonware. You can still buy it, and I think that Irrational still get money from it.

      I think that the original System Shock is abandonware.

    2. Re:Cool, but will they update the environments? by Allison+Geode · · Score: 1

      looking glass studious is gone, but irrational games, the team who made SS2, is not: they went on to make the excellent squad-strategy game, Freedom Force.

    3. Re:Cool, but will they update the environments? by blincoln · · Score: 1

      I believe most of these sites get permission from the original creators of any games they put up.

      No, they don't. And they won't take games down even if it's easily possible to still buy them used, or as a budget re-release.

      Abandonware is (for the most part) just another in the long line of piracy rationalizations.

      System Shock 2 could even be had *new* as recently as a year ago, because that's when I bought it shrinkwrapped at EB on Electronic Arts' Classics label.

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    4. Re:Cool, but will they update the environments? by Kwil · · Score: 1

      I point you to:
      Home of the Underdogs

      A very good Abandonware/Older Game site, not only for the variety of stuff it hosts, but for the fact that he does actually take stuff down if he's requested, and for stuff that is still being sold, even has links to places you can purchase it.

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    5. Re:Cool, but will they update the environments? by blincoln · · Score: 1

      I wish =(.

      I've emailed them before about games that are easily available used, and gotten no response.

      They've also had System Shock 2 up forever, including when I bought it brand new as I mentioned in my original post.

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  8. Not really a beta yet by Bagels · · Score: 3, Informative

    This mod can't really be considered a beta yet, because it isn't features-complete. Many of the models that are slated to be included are missing as of now, making for some rather obvious holes in the game. I tried starting a new game with the mod. The first thing that I noticed was that many of the characters were missing, most notably the robots in the training area. In fact, I did not see a single new model until I hit the game proper. Unfortunately, it was impossible to get very far: apparently the wrench weapon hasn't been modelled yet, making it impossible to use (whether the wrench hits anything or not must be determined by collision detection with the wrench model). The wrench was necessary to escape from the very first room (used to destroy some rubble blocking the way), so I could not even leave the first room. Presumably, it's possible to get further into the game using save files, though.

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    1. Re:Not really a beta yet by saladpuncher · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can supposedly fix this by doing the following:

      1.Create a folder named res in your shock2 folder
      2.Move all the resource files (*.crf) from the shock2 root into the res folder
      3.Alter install.cfg to reflect the change of resource location: eg resname_base C:\Program Files\Sshock2\res+E:\shock from my install.cfg

      I haven't tested this yet since I'm at work but I will as soon as I get home. Let me know if it works for anyone else out there.

      You can also change the resolution of the game by opening up cam.cfg in notepad and changing the line game_screen_size to either 1280 1024 or 1600 1200. Cool huh?

  9. Best ... Game ... Ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SS2 is exactly what a game should be. Challenging, innovative, and downright scary as hell at points. Glad to see someone is working on making a great game even better.

  10. Just what this game needs... by Bahumat · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... to even fscking scarier. Goddamnit, this game is one of only two to make me shriek aloud like a little girl (the other was Quake II). This game literally gave me nightmares...

    And now it's gotten more realistic, and thus scarier.

    I can't wait for this mod to be done, then I have an excuse if I'm ever institutionalized. :)

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  11. I'd like to see game developers do this by @madeus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd like to see game developers do this more.

    Obviously I don't want to just see old tedious content re-hashed, but many games with great storylines (like this one) could benifit greatly from something as simple as updated 3D models.

    Obviously with titles like DN3D, Marathon, Dark Forces, Doom, etc you can't simply inject new full 3D models, but for existing older fully 3D titles, games like Jedi Knight, Driver, System Shock 2, etc., then adding new models and high resolution textures needent require any additional programming and could make an older game attractive again.

    If you wanted to take things a little further, with a little map work to smooth things out and some additional coding to take advantage of lighting effects/bumpmapping then you can have a great looking-great playing title again with much less work (and cost) than creating a game from scratch, and you can reach out to all those who didn't play it (or finish it) first time round, and who maybe those who really enjoyed it and would love to play it again.

    I'd love to play Jedi Knight again with Doom III quality models for example.

    With the current speed of advancements in 3D hardware (and the future advancements still to come for quite a few years) I'm surprised firms aren't looking to capitalise on their existing assets.