SSH Clients for Palm OS 5?

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Posted by Cliff on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @07:35PM from the software-ported-to-the-latest-OS-rev dept.

oosid asks: "I have recently upgraded my Sony Clie T-616 to an NX-60 with the built in keyboard, larger screen, and a WI-FI card. I have been searching for a good terminal emulator/ssh client and have found nothing worthy. Am I totally missing something, or is there really nothing out there? It would be awesome to be able to take advantage of the excellent screen and keyboard in my favorite wireless coffee shop."

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Get a Zaurus by Anonymous Coward · 2003-06-10 19:46 · Score: 0

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Don't Palm owners have their own websites? by DrSkwid · 2003-06-10 20:14 · Score: 2, Insightful

It's a kind of shitty question.

One suspects it's more of an advert

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1. Re:Don't Palm owners have their own websites? by shemnon · 2003-06-11 02:40 · Score: 1
  
  If it was an advert for PalmOS 5 one would think they would mention both the Tungsten T and Toungsten C.
  
  They woudl probobly point out that the Tungsten T has built in bluetooth, PalmOS 5.0, 16MB of memory, and a slick compact size that expands to full size when you need to use the graffiti area.
  
  If it was the Tungsten C they were advertising they would mention the thumboard, 64MB of RAM(!) and built in 802.11b(!) which would be perfect for use from a SSH client. The Sony NX series only gets Wi-Fi from a thick compact flash card while the C has it built in.
  
  Since this is a geek site, they would probobly not mention the new Zire 71 with a built in 300 kilapixel camera. Only 16MB and no wireless, but like the C it has a nice 320x320 transflective display. Buy that one for your non-technical spouse.
  
  If it was an advert, I am sure they woud have mentioned these.
  
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2. Re:Don't Palm owners have their own websites? by shaitand · 2003-06-11 14:37 · Score: 1
  
  unless they are just trying to get someone to code this app for them and open source it, in which case they only need to make it sound cool, not add the extra marketing hype.
  
  New business model:
  
  1. Tease programmers on slashdot
  2. Get free apps for product.
  3. ????
  4. Profit!
Top result from Google by Kris_J · 2003-06-10 20:20 · Score: 4, Informative

http://www.palmpowerenterprise.com/issues/issue200 206/sshclient001.html And, yeah, I think the post looks like an ad too.
Don't enter any complicated commands.... by fm6 · 2003-06-10 20:47 · Score: 0, Flamebait

Let's see, you've got a color display (which probably isn't viewable unless you have the backlight on), a 200 mhz processor, and a fairly powerful microwave transceiver. You're going to run down that battery awfully fast! Perhaps there's no SSH client because this is just the wrong platform for it.
Here by skinfitz · 2003-06-10 21:25 · Score: 5, Informative

Oh lemme see - three seconds of googling results in this:

http://www.ai/~iang/TGssh/

As you obviously haven't heard of Google, you should check it out.
1. Re:Here by m_evanchik · 2003-06-10 23:33 · Score: 1
  
  Here's another link for the Top Gun SSH:
  
  http://www.freewarepalm.com/communication/topgun ss h.shtml
  
  But it seems that the down load link there is dead as well.
  
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2. Re:Here by skinfitz · 2003-06-11 00:20 · Score: 1
  
  Here's another link for the Top Gun SSH: http://www.freewarepalm.com/communication/topgunss h.shtml But it seems that the down load link there is dead as well
  
  The link for the binary packages in the link I originally posted works - I tested it first.
  
  (Direct download link) TGssh-13.zip
3. Re:Here by compwizrd · 2003-06-11 00:53 · Score: 1
  
  ssh1 only though!
4. Re:Here by skinfitz · 2003-06-11 01:06 · Score: 1
  
  ssh1 only though!
  
  Original poster didn't specify a version...
5. Re:Here by .@. · 2003-06-11 03:25 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Perhaps they meant SSH2. TGssh, and every other Palm client I've seen, is only SSH1.
  
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6. Re:Here by erth64net · 2003-06-11 07:24 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  SSH2: http://www.mochasoft.dk/palm.html
Try freewarepalm.com by m_evanchik · 2003-06-10 23:27 · Score: 2, Informative

Try freewarepalm.com, which is generally a good place for free (beer) software.

I found this link through it:

http://netpage.em.com.br/mmand/ptelnet.htm

It's a terminal emulator and not really an ssh client but maybe it will help.

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It might be getting out of hand by Coyote67 · 2003-06-11 00:11 · Score: 2, Insightful

Am I alone in feeling that lately slashdot has turned into a personalized search engine. I feel like I'm visiting that old miningco search engine that let you ask real questions and people would look it up for you.
What the frell is wrong with the editors and the submitters. Do some freakin research!

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1. Re:It might be getting out of hand by RevAaron · 2003-06-11 01:44 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  No, I feel the same way. I'm sure a lot of others do, considering how half of the posts we see in the Ask Slashdots today are full of "try google retard!" It wouldn't seem that far out for a /. editor to spend the 3 seconds to do so (google for palmos ssh client) that the poster didn't, and reject based on the ease of which something would be found.
  
  Or, there might be more of an agenda here. Perhaps the editor which posted this is a Zaurus user, and figured a lot of people would be like "H4h4 my Z can dooo it! PalmOS and WinCE CAN'T DO SSH! Hehahaaehe!" Followed by a bunch of suggestions for the user to buy an SL-5500. Maybe I'm just being paranoid though. ;)
  
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2. Re:It might be getting out of hand by Raleel · 2003-06-11 02:53 · Score: 1
  
  yes, I do as well, I've seen several in recent times. Honestly, editors, since you are checking these, if you can do "palmOS ssh" in google and turn up the answer, you should not be posting these. It's sad. Many of us have the hacker attitude of "learn it yourself"
  
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It's no ad AFAIK by Xenna · 2003-06-11 01:56 · Score: 2, Interesting

I used to have a Nokia 9210 which had a Mocha telnet client that worked great for remote maintenance. I could do simple maintenance stuff whil on holiday.

I now have a Clie TG50 which is a great little tool with keyboard, color, bluetooth and all. I am very disappointed by the SSH software available too.

Mocha telnet for the Palm just crashes and Topgun SSH, well... The terminal emulator just sucks. Try to use vi on it!

I would have expected the popularity of the Palm platform to lead to a lot of good Ssh apps, but this doesn't seem to be the case so far.

Yeah, I know I should write one myself...

X.
1. Re:It's no ad AFAIK by snubber1 · 2003-06-11 04:09 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  Login to your server with TGSSH, and then type 'screen'
  
  It will be a world of difference.
  
  Depending on what your doing, it might also help to add a TGSSH termcap entry.
  
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2. Re:It's no ad AFAIK by Xenna · 2003-06-11 17:06 · Score: 1
  
  I have screen loaded from my bash profile, it makes no difference really.
  
  Have you used TGssh? It's not as if you have a command line or anything. You get an input box to type your stuff in. So arrow-up and tab-completion (just what you need on a handheld) don't even work. It's one very weird application.
  
  X.
3. Re:It's no ad AFAIK by snubber1 · 2003-06-12 02:52 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  Yes, I have a palm Vx and a omnisky wireless modem with service from AT&T. Tab completeion works, you just have to send the partial letters and the tab, and not a carrige return. I've repaired mail servers without going indoors using only TGSSH.
  
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Zaurus by Gothmolly · 2003-06-11 03:39 · Score: 0, Troll

If you want a mini computer, get a Zaurus. It has a real OS, real memory management, and under active open source development. debian-arm packages install just fine. With OpenZaurus, you get the latest ssh, media player, etc apps, on a color, backlit screen, etc. etc. Sounds like you have the wrong tool - how are you going to type?

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the frustration I have with the palm... by joelja · 2003-06-11 20:55 · Score: 1

is that it's still not a real multitasking os. The new clie's especially have a fairly significant amout of resources, yet when you switch back and forth between applications connections go away and so forth... it's about as useful as having a dos box with a tcp-stack...
I hear palmos 5.2 will address this, but it's pushing me towards the sharp zaurus units even though I currently have a clie nx60
joelja
1. Re:the frustration I have with the palm... by BenjyD · 2003-06-11 21:55 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  If this is happening, it's bad coding. Passing false as the 'immediate' boolean parameter in the NetLibClose call on closing an app leaves the current connection open for a user-specified delay time before actually closing the connection, so another program can use it.
2. Re:the frustration I have with the palm... by Anonymous Coward · 2003-06-12 01:46 · Score: 1
  
  Sure, but it's still a hack. PalmOS is not a multitasking OS - and it shows.
3. Re:the frustration I have with the palm... by Anonymous Coward · 2003-06-12 02:52 · Score: 0
  
  Uh.. Yes it is. They just don't expose more than one processor thread to users unless you pay Kadak extra $$$
What you want is Online by davros74 · 2003-06-12 05:50 · Score: 2, Informative

When I first got my Tungsten T I wanted a good telnet/SSH app but couldn't find one. All I could find was MochaTelnet, ptelnet, and TGSSH, all of which either were incompatible with OS5, weren't compatible with SSH2, or just had such ugly fonts that I couldn't see what I was doing.

Then I found this program:
Online

It supports telnet and SSH. It supports file download with X-Modem, Y-Modem to VFS. And most important, it supports HIRES, so you can do a full 80x24 terminal mode and stil read it. On a fast enough connection (say GPRS), using VIM is totally usable.

It's definitely worth the $30.
1. Re:What you want is Online by davros74 · 2003-06-12 05:54 · Score: 1
  
  Ack. My Bad. It supports direct serial and telnet, not SSH. Still, it's the best I have found. I also use it to connect to my own machine dialup with PPP, so I don't care about SSH since I'm not all that worried about someone hijacking my CSD GSM connection. If only I could get GPRS in all areas...