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Next Generation Input Devices?

TenDimensions asks: "Has anyone at Slashdot seen this new input device and tried it out? What's it like? There's no doubt that new computer input devices are on the way (did anyone use the Minority Report-style hand-gesture detector at the car show a couple of months ago?) This seems interesting enough to try out, but I thought I'd ask you folks before I plunked down the money."

25 comments

  1. Whats wrong with plain old keyboard? by Asicath · · Score: 3, Funny

    Jeez, it seems about once a month there is a post dealing with "Next-Generation" or "New and Improved" keyboards.

    My ass is a better input device then most of these devices.

    The particualar device you've posted looks to be the biggest loser of them all. Its not gesture recognition like in minority report, it looks a bit more like the "keys" have light sensors under their surface or that they work like micowave buttons.

    Because of this and the fact that the buttons are so close together, the chances of hitting unintended keys most be 1 in 2, you'd be better off trying to type with your hands on a on-screen keyboard on a palm pilot. Most of the instructions for this device seem to be warnings on how not to set off the keys.

    1. re: Whats wrong with plain old keyboard? by bbk · · Score: 5, Funny

      "My ass is a better input device then most of these devices."

      I hope you never end up in prison.

    2. Re:Whats wrong with plain old keyboard? by jrivar59 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem with keyboards is twofold:

      1) RSI and other such conditions. For those that suffer, keyboard alternatives are extreamly attractive

      2) Bandwidth. Even at 120wpm, my fingers are typically slower than my brain. Improving the input speed would make new things possible. For example, broadband did more than make downloads go faster, it made a whole new class of services available that were never around before. The mouse is the last device to really do this on the channel between user and computer.

      I'm all for these alternatives. Except when coding, then I need things to go much slower than my brain...... Its unlikely anything will replace the standard mouse/keyboard setup any time soon, but we can dream.

    3. Re:Whats wrong with plain old keyboard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I don't know about you, but my ass is strictly classified as an output device.

  2. Nervous Impulses... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It seems to me that the holy grail of input devices are ones that measure nervous impulses.

    This Link describes it pretty well.

    1. Re:Nervous Impulses... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I agree that this is the holy grail of input devices, it's going to be some time before brain machine interfaces are fast enough/accurate enough to be of use to quardrapalegics, let alone people with full function of their limbs.

    2. Re:Nervous Impulses... by Paul+d'Aoust · · Score: 1

      does anyone remember a little device that came out a few years ago? It was a little cup that you'd put your index finger into, and it had a few electrodes that would measure... well, some sort of electrical resistance in your finger... if you thought "left", well, the cursor would go left, goshdarnit. I tried one and it was frightening.

      Can't find any mention of it anymore, but it would be cool to see someone pick up where this company left off and refine the process (it was kinda jerky).

      My only guess is that it used the same principles as that pendulum trick, where you think the word "circular" and the pendulum in your hand starts swinging in a circular motion, and then you think "line" it starts swinging back and forth. I think it has something to do with the power of suggestion.

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  3. quote of the day by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

    If you're haptic and you know it, clap your hands!

    1. Re:quote of the day by Paul+d'Aoust · · Score: 1

      okay, that was the funniest thing I've seen on Slashdot all day.

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  4. foist proust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    foist proust

    1. Re:foist proust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You fucking FAIL IT, you pole-smoking pillow-biter.
      Step into my office; you're FUCKING FIRED!

      And God said, "Build me a toaster, you retard."

  5. Probably not worth it by vadim_t · · Score: 1

    It looks too small to be comfortable.

    Also, I think that the reason why we still all have a keyboard is that it's a device that's practically as good as it can get. I don't mean QWERTY, Dvorak, or some other layout, but the keyboard device, of the normal size and type. If something does eventually replace the keyboard I think it'll be some kind of mental control interface, because I doubt it's possible to type much faster than we can already, and voice recognition will always be slower.

    1. Re:Probably not worth it by orthogonal · · Score: 4, Funny

      It looks too small to be comfortable.

      It looks like you meant this to be a reply to the first post's: My ass is a better input device then most of these devices.

      Is there a subtle homoerotic subtext (that I'd prefer to be missing) going on here?

  6. You are missing the point.. by floydman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There are several sizes of that mini keyboard, and the layout is the same as the regular keyboard.

    The only difference is that the keyboard surface is also a touch mouse pad, which in my opinion actually is easier. The hand movement from a regular kb to a mouse can be quite frustrating sometimes(ofcorse if espically use X, or even windows)..

    I mean i am a Keyboard user, i dont use the mouse often, but sometimes i am just stuck on shortcuts or moves, and i have to, and its frustrating... thats the whole point of it i guess..

    And by the way.. this subject have been on /. before..

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  7. Neuromancer by kwench · · Score: 1

    It's all crap! ;-)

    I say: next-generation input devices are based on directly tapping into your brain. There is some great research on linking neurons and technical devices (as previously reported on /.) and there is ongoing research in
    controlling a pointing devices via thougths.

  8. ...must...resist... by Chilltowner · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...obvious...pr0n...joke.... "Need a small keyboard that's easy to clean? The iGesture Mini Keyboard is great for applications where two-handed touch typing is not the norm."

  9. Great for lousy typists! by pete-classic · · Score: 3, Funny

    Two-finger typists, [and] one-handed typists [. . .] should immediately feel at home with the compact key layout.


    I read that as "If you can't type worth a damn on a real keyboard, you'll do just as well on this thing!"

    -Peter
    1. Re:Great for lousy typists! by IWorkForMorons · · Score: 2, Funny

      I would think the one-handed typists would just appreciate being able to clean it easily...

  10. No tactile feedback? by morzel · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Keyboards that don't provide some tactile feedback that a key has been 'clicked' are very awkward to use, because the only way you know that you have successfully recorded a 'click' is by checking on the screen. This is very tiring.

    I don't think I would ever be able to use these kinds of keyboards as efficiently as I do know with my 'regular' keyboards.

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  11. How can you... by 216pi · · Score: 1

    ... talk about 'iGesture' and 'Next Generation Input Devices' and leave out the iGesture Pad?

    It's a pad that can be used as mouse replacement (as known from laptops) but also executes macros from your gestures.

  12. broken keyboard by nagothrond · · Score: 1

    For those who don't use the mouse often but still need it to do a few basic maneuvers here is an idea. Have a keyboard with the keys arranged in the standard way for a "natural" style keyboard except for the fact the keyboard is broken into two pieces and each piece is able to be moved independently as a mouse. Then your hands are always comfortable and your mouse is accesible.

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  13. Same people who make Touchstream keyboards by Thornae · · Score: 1

    This company's popped up a few times here when discussion turned to keyboards - the general impression I get is that the keyboards are very nice once you get used to them, but they're fairly pricey. Plus, once you get used to them, you have trouble with normal keyboards. My major problem with them is the lack of tactile feedback - I like my clicky keys...
    Anyway, older discussions are here, here, here, and here.

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  14. Have one, Hate it. by 1010delta · · Score: 1

    I have tested several of these from iGesture. We had hoped to use them in one of our robotics designs, but have been a little disappointed. I can't complain about it doing what they say, it does seem to function as advertised. It is the part they seem to imply about how versatile and innovative it is that we found lacking. I have been using the same old 102 key forever, and at $10, I can't say I have found anything that really makes me want to give up almost $200 worth of capuci's for it. They also make a very interesting pad that supposedly replaces a mouse, but getting used to it was problematic and it seems almost too responsive. Again, I can't hack on the claims, only on the implication that it is the coolest thing since rollerballs. You want something cool, try ASL eyetrackers.

  15. the gestures... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    are cool. I definetly (I can NEVER spell that word) need some tactile feedback from my keyboard, but i would consider the pad, y'know, if i used Maya, and felt like I needed to get rid of 170$

  16. New? by MeanMF · · Score: 1

    That thing looks like the ultra-modern input device found on my old Atari 400.