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Philosophical Split Hurts Web Services Adoption
Avidwriter writes "'There is a serious split in Web services implementation philosophy that is threatening to stall the benefits of the technology to businesses and consumers,' says this Devchannel story. 'The WSDL 1.1 specification allows programmers to choose between remote procedure call (RPC) style and document-style Web services. The decision is not an arbitrary one, as it has ramifications for both message structure and more importantly the interoperability of Web services...'"
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... RPC-style "web" services such as SOAP and XML-RPC should not be an option. They're contrary to the architecture to the Web. If anything, they should be called RPC over HTTP or something similar, because that is all they have in common with the Web.
If you want to do a real Web service, use REST.
-- "So, what's the deal with Auntie Gerschwitz et all?"
The author stated his stance in the very first paragraph:
For example, it is incorrect to assume that a request-response programming model dictates an RPC-style message format. The Document style can also be used for request-response communication.
And in this regard, he chose his side:
In this case, Microsoft is right. Document/literal Web services are a better choice for data interoperability. While focusing on JAX-RPC instead of JAXM is in line with Sun's attempt to simplify Java development, it's the wrong approach for Web services.
Then the followings are mainly pointing out the flaws in Apache Axis.
First of all, I can see in his article what Axis does wrong. However, I don't see how Microsoft's way - Document/literal Web services - could solve the problem.
I've mixed feeling about his arguments. First I do think the present RPC implemention in WSDL is getting out of hand(chaotic and complicated), but if we could only do document style transfer as he said the Microsoft's way, why the hell should we consider adopting WS in the first place? Isn't what SUN and Apache(and IBM, he didn't mention) does exactly what we really need for interoperative protocols?
To put it simpler, in the pure document transfer model, the processing logics will lie in the senders and receivers. That is defeating the major merit of WS on interoperability, where the processing logics are not hard-coded into one framework.
The author is a scientist in DOD and he really has some insight in WSDL, but if WSDL is really implemented in Microsoft's way then many wouldn't even consider adopting WS in the first place.
Did anyone catch the (hard-to-miss) part about the DOD project that's trying to fit terrorists into some ontology that also includes "plants" and "animals"? That's so insane, I don't know whether to laugh or cry..
P.S. Yes, I read the article. Sorry. (slinks away in shame)
Mr. Daconta has chosen a very contrived example to support his argument. A tree-structured taxonomy fits very nicely into a DOM-style response, but fits poorly into a Hashmap. Ergo, since his document-style request returns a DOM and his RPC-style request returns a Hashmap, the Document-style request is always superior. This is complete bullshit. Either way could be easier to implement and result in a more natural response, depending on the situation.
A Hashmap is a lousy and unnatural way of representing a tree structure in the first place. Why would sending it over a wire in response to a SOAP call result in any less awkwardness at the other end? What if the taxonomy was represented as vectors and sub-vectors? This would allow a much more natural representation, and would result in a much clearer output in response to a SOAP call.
What if the underlying structure was not hierarchical, but was instead a bi-directional circular linked list? Expressing this in a DOM object is possible, but it's ugly and does not flow naturally.
Another thing to notice is how much code was written for the two examples. The RPC-style code is a mere 45 lines total. The Document-style code is shows 130 lines, but notes that many more lines were omitted. At 7 lines per omitted item from class7 to class21, that's another 105 lines, for a total of 235 lines. If you're going to put 5 times as much effort into the result, it's not surprising that you get back a much cleaner response.
Daconta's article should be moderated as "-1 Troll" IMNSHO.
--Paul
Now the pressing question seems to be the RESTfulness or not of Web Services. See a related Mark Baker's blog entry for illustration.
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