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Popular platforms Switched To gcc 3.3.1 on NetBSD

Posted by Hemos on from the updating-upgrading-and-uplifting dept.

Dan writes "The anticipated GCC3.3.1 switch on NetBSD has happened for some of the popular platforms. NetBSD's Matthew Green announced that he has switched the alpha, i386, sparc and sparc64 ports to use GCC 3.3.1 as the default system compiler. At the same time, NetBSD's Matt Thomas announced that the arm ports(acorn26, acorn32, cats, and shark) have been switched over as well."

26 comments

  1. gcc by Tirel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does GCC now properly support -march=athlonxp ? (it was broken in x=3.2)

    1. Re:gcc by noselasd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Got any pointers to the brokenness ? I use -march=athlon-xp on RedHat 9 (gcc 3.2.2 + some patches) and it seems ok.
      Another point. Will NetBSD 1.6.2(or any 1.6.x) include this switch to gcc 3 ?
      Or is it a feature of the upcoming NetBSD 2.0 ?
      Which leads to; when can one expect NetBSD 2.0 ? This year ? 2005 ?
      (zealots that know nothing more than "when its ready" need not reply.)

    2. Re:gcc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ofcourse. The joy of kernel panics, fsckd filesystems, not to menton enjoying the system thrashing around figuring out what to swap out and what not to. (fix that VM mr Torvalds)

    3. Re:gcc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      probably not. the next version will be 1.6.2 and then 1.7
      the second number is incremented every year, so you have 4 more years to go till 2.0

    4. Re:gcc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NetBSD 1.6.x will not be changed to gcc 3.3.x.

      The next major release of NetBSD (2.0) will contain this fix. We hope to start the NetBSD 2.0 release cycle by the end of this year.

  2. Question by wowbagger · · Score: 0, Troll

    So, the next time a *BSDer starts bitching about how the GPL is not "free", does this mean we can point out the hypocrisy of criticizing those who provide you with the single most important tool needed to enjoy the environment of your choice?

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    1. Re:Question by kjs3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nice troll. You know...all I ever hear is Stallman and associated syncophants telling people not to use *BSD because it's not "free", at least by their definition. Which is, of course, the only valid one. Hypocracy indeed.

    2. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have to point out X11 is pretty fundemental for most primarily GPL-based Linux distros too. Currently pure GPL or pure BSD licensed platforms aren't an option.

      One another note, TENDRA *may* present a valid alternative to GCC someday (which would be nice -- I don't care about the license, but diversity is good!). Sadly, I wouldn't advise anyone to hold their breath waiting.

    3. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whether it is "free" or not is irrelevant. The fact that *BSD is dying
      should be reason enough to avoid it. No future, my dear.

    4. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      BSD and AIDS

      This just in: homosexuality among *BSD users has skyrocketed. The cause is yet to be determined, however most sources indicate that it has something to do with *BSD users comforting each other in an strictly unusual way, to be quite a frank about it, gay sex. On Monday *BSD was giving a sad prognosis, it was dying. It probably won't have much longer to live. So when news broke out hell broke loose. Jimmy an avid *BSD user had this to say:

      "When I heard this news I was utterly devastated, so I went to my friend Darl, who is also a *BSD user. He didn't yet know of the unfortunate, and he didn't take it well. He broke down in tears, this is the second blow to him in a week, he found out that he contracted AIDS from a Black homosexual prostitute on the street one day. I said to Darl, 'well you know something *BSD is dying, and well, I'm going to die with it.'

      I pulled down my pants and bent over, Darl took care of the rest. I don't know if I have yet to get AIDS, but we have gay anal sex everyday, without any lubricant for maximum ripage. The *BSD mailing list I joined reports the same thing happening among the other *BSD users. We are all planning on having one massive gay orgy on Saturday, so if you want to go out and be with *BSD up in heaven, come join us."

      Well you've heard it folks from a true *BSD user. They have all turned gay because of these unfortunate happenings.
  3. MIPS port? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ummmm? MIPS CPU is not major?

  4. Answer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Sure, and the next time when someone uses the word "Linux" to mean anything other than the Kernel Tarball as released by Linux Torvalas, can I point out how that is a marketing and branding powergrab taken right from the Mircosoft marketing playbook?

  5. *BSD for Windows XP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Is there a version of *BSD that works under WinXP? Please provide a BiTt0rReNt link to the installer. TIA!

    PS It's WinXP Professional, no service packs installed.

    1. Re:*BSD for Windows XP? by noselasd · · Score: 1

      I don't have any bittorrent link , but you can download the install cd from e.g. www.netbsd.org or www.freebsd.org. You will need VMWare to install it under windowsXP though. And you need not worry about the viruses and worms you have on your unpatched winxxp (and your head) will infect the *BSD, the daemon will keep them away.

    2. Re:*BSD for Windows XP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have been trolled.

  6. Does not support VAX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I repeat: You cannot use GCC 3.x on the VAX arch.

    1. Re:Does not support VAX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You cannot really use g++-2.95 on alpha. You choose.

    2. Re:Does not support VAX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GCC 3.x does does not support ELF on VAX... yet.

      NetBSD will have in-tree support for VAX with GCC 3.x "soon", and those changes will be fed back to the GCC mainline.

    3. Re:Does not support VAX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Video professor says:

       this Bitch iS Dead
  7. RMS says *BSD is free by yerricde · · Score: 1

    all I ever hear is Stallman and associated syncophants telling people not to use *BSD because it's not "free", at least by their definition.

    The X11 license, the Expat license, and the new BSD license are listed on GNU.org as GPL-compatible free software licenses, and the old BSD license is listed as not compatible with the GNU GPL but still a free software license. Thus, an operating system consisting of Expat licensed programs, X11 licensed programs, and *BSD licensed programs is free software.

    Please show me where Mr. Stallman has discouraged users from making use of non-copylefted free software. In fact, www.gnu.org and www.stallman.org run Apache HTTP Server, whose license resembles the old BSD license, on the Debian GNU/Linux OS.

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  8. Strange bedfellows -- Red Hat Linux and NetBSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Ever since Red Hat bought Cygnus, GCC is in effect a Red Hat Linux product. Most of the significant development on GCC is performed by Red Hat Linux employees. Therefore NetBSD is a [possibly illegitimate] offspring of Red Hat. And of course, GCC is under copyright by our good friends at Richard Stallman's Free Software Foundation (home of GNU).

    It is interesting to note that every NetBSD software, including NetBSD itself, requires a Red Hat product, in fact owes its practical existence to Red Hat GCC.