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Skipper Accessibility Suite 1.6.0 Released

Semi-Anonymous Reader writes "Skipper 1.6.0 is a GPLed Linux accessibility suite for the severely physically disabled - cerebral palsy, road traffic accidents, motor neuron disease, Parkinsons etc. It takes input from multiple devices like graphics tablets and microswitches connected directly to the printer port, does input switching and processing (configured graphically like modular synthesisers), and provides clever genetically annealed menu systems for application and desktop control. With just one detectable click, people can have full Web and email access - in fact the whole Linux desktop - in complete privacy. Now the problem's getting it to people who need it. Charities and institutions think physical, Windows and money, so it's down to the geeks. Set up a kid near you this Fall - they might not be the next Einstein or Mozart, but you'll be giving them a lifetime of education, activity, self-expression and self-determination."

128 comments

  1. Get 'em hooked early by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Set up a kid near you this Fall - they might not be the next Einstein or Mozart, but you'll be giving them a lifetime of education, activity, self-expression and self-determination."

    More like a lifetime of Slashdot and Everquest addiction.

    Oh, and fp.

    1. Re:Get 'em hooked early by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 1

      How is the parent a troll? This gets my vote for worst moderation ever.

    2. Re:Get 'em hooked early by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every fp gets moderated troll no matter how insightful it was. It's a sacred tradition of /. and guys who posts real trolls as fp do this to protect really insightful posts from being trolled down.

    3. Re:Get 'em hooked early by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dammit, I'm a sub-50000 user ID, and I lost my password. GODDAMIT. Can't have it sent to me, my email address changed. Sigh.

    4. Re:Get 'em hooked early by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 1

      I understand. That's awfully noble of them. Gives me new respect for the penis bird.

    5. Re:Get 'em hooked early by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but could you imagine a Beowulf cluster of those? ...disabled people, I mean.

      Well, mod me down, boys!
      (Note: This is not a troll, it's a beowulf cluster of trolls)

    6. Re:Get 'em hooked early by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hehe, I'm sub-250 000, and I haven't lost my password. I'm with you ... 0%!

    7. Re:Get 'em hooked early by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      why doesn't /. sell inactive low number accounts at a premium? at an even greater premium, /. could sell a full raft of comments, charging on the basis of their moderated value ...

      just an idea, but perhaps one whose time has come

    8. Re:Get 'em hooked early by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, this is the most insightful comment thus far. Vernor Vinge. "A Deepness In The Sky". "We bring you Focus". The difference between Vinge's zipheads and Skipper users is that zipheads pay a human price for their single-minded dedication to the information space they're working in. Skipper users will enjoy a significant improvement over staring at the wall and waiting to die.

  2. linux based? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    great, as if the handicapped didn't have enough trouble already - now they have to worry about configuring their kernel and dicking around with XFree86Config!

  3. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...an exploit in Skipper has been found that allows hosts to run arbitrary code on the Skipper host machine.

  4. On the other hand by kfg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As it were, they just might be the next Stephen Hawking.

    Ya never know.

    KFG

    1. Re:On the other hand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only Stephen Hawking had gotten Multiple Sclerosis long after he was a child.

    2. Re:On the other hand by admiralfrijole · · Score: 1

      MS? He's got ALS...aka Lou Gherig's Disease...

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    3. Re:On the other hand by lokedhs · · Score: 2, Interesting

      He did. He was in university when it happened. And besides, in all it's horribleness, it was probably a good thing for humanity he did, since he didn't really start to take an interest in his studies until after he became ill.

    4. Re:On the other hand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great. Everyone start having babies - They might be geniuses! C'mon.

    5. Re:On the other hand by kfg · · Score: 1

      Great. Everyone start having babies - They might be geniuses! C'mon.

      Don't worry. I knew we could count on you to show up and provide a counter example.

      KFG

    6. Re:On the other hand by larien · · Score: 1

      Well, Stephen Hawking was actually physically very capable until his 20s, so he had the chance to get his education before his body failed him. There's a fair chance that he wouldn't have had the opportunities he did if he had been confined to a wheelchair from childhood.

    7. Re:On the other hand by Spoing · · Score: 1
      He did. He was in university when it happened. And besides, in all it's horribleness, it was probably a good thing for humanity he did, since he didn't really start to take an interest in his studies until after he became ill.

      *smacks head with palm of hand* So that's why the company I'm working with now keeps crippling every good project and picking the worst possible tools! Here I was thinking they were just morons!

      Today, I'm going in and erasing random files on the servers...who knows what amazing things will happen! Maybe I'll get a better contract?

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      A firewall can not protect you from yourself. Turn off what you do not need. Do not use the firewall to do your work.
    8. Re:On the other hand by tjwhaynes · · Score: 1

      He did. He was in university when it happened. And besides, in all it's horribleness, it was probably a good thing for humanity he did, since he didn't really start to take an interest in his studies until after he became ill.

      I wouldn't go as far as to say he didn't take an interest in his studies prior to the onset of the motor neuron disease.

      A story, possibly apocryphal, but coming directly from one of his colleagues, runs like this:

      A whole group of students have been struggling with a bunch of questions for about a week. Between the lot of them, they have answers to about 30% of the problems set. Stephen Hawkins has not started the questions until the night before they are due.

      The next morning, Stephen is looking tired and stressed. Assuming that he got stumped and pulled an all nighter to no avail, he is needled by his friends.

      However, he reveals that he got answers out fully to 9 of the problems, and was stumped on the final part of the last problem.

      So, while the motor neuron disease may have concentrated his efforts, I personally don't buy the line that he wasn't interested in his studies before that. In fact, I wonder just how much more he might have acheived if he had not been handicapped. That his life will almost certainly be shortened by the disease is a tragedy.

      Cheers,

      Toby Haynes

      --
      Anything I post is strictly my own thoughts and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the opinions of IBM.
    9. Re:On the other hand by lokedhs · · Score: 1
      True, he's one of the smartest people alive to day (if not the smartest). However, if he had remained well he might not have chosen the scientific career. He did have a lot of other interests (sports, if I'm not mistaken?) before.

      I can't link you to any sites with more information since most of what I know about his life comes from a documentary I watched on (i think) Discovery.

  5. Sounds very cool! by Ratface · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A friend of mine who is a Linux whizz and who is looking into setting up a charity organisation for techies to be able to contribute time & know-how for good causes might well be interested in this project.

    I guess that if anything is going to help spread news about its availability, this is the right place to be.

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    A little planning goes a long way...
  6. Cyborg? by BWJones · · Score: 2, Interesting

    and provides clever genetically annealed menu systems for application and desktop control.

    Genetically annealed menu systems? What the....?!? Well, I have been following bionics and cybernetics for a little while now, and this is certainly new to me. :-)

    Seriously though, what are they talking about?

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    1. Re:Cyborg? by fenix+down · · Score: 1

      It's pretentious bastard speak for that thing in MS Office where it makes the menu items you use more often easier to get to.

    2. Re:Cyborg? by Ella+the+Cat · · Score: 1

      I'm no expert, but I've come across such terms. Google for "simulated annealing". IIRC it's one way to do things like printed circuit board layout (think how complex the pattern of wires on a mobo is) and the term was appropriated from what happens in metallurgy.

    3. Re:Cyborg? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Their talking about the AI algorithm used to determine the order in which the menus appear. Anealing is a technique to randomly jump to another location in the search space when a local maximum is found. Genetically anealed (I guess, I've never heard the term before) means a genetic algorithm which periodically resets some of the population to keep searches from finding a local maximum.

  7. Setup a... kid? by lingqi · · Score: 3, Funny
    Set up a kid near you this Fall...

    So that's what y'all are calling it now? doesn't that require women (preferabbly one married to you) first?

    I mean, not so familiar with these things, /. regular and all...

    [ducks]

    --

    My life in the land of the rising sun.

    1. Re:Setup a... kid? by SharpFang · · Score: 3, Funny

      He says "set up", not "install". It's misconfigured!

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    2. Re:Setup a... kid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Someone set up us the kid?

      It's you!

  8. what makes humans precious? by Porthwhanker · · Score: 5, Funny

    In the Information Age we can see more clearly than ever before that what makes human beings precious is creativity, intelligence, wit and determination.

    And here I thought it was how much money you make. Guess I'm still stuck in the Capitalism Age.

    1. Re:what makes humans precious? by kfg · · Score: 1

      Indeed. People who have demonstrated a particular talent for making money are often cloistered and given heavy protection in Kansas.

      KFG

    2. Re:what makes humans precious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Kansas? ONLY in Kansas?

      What about Missouri?

    3. Re:what makes humans precious? by illuminata · · Score: 0

      And capitalism doesn't do that for you? People buying things fund creativity, intelligence, wit, and determination.

      The other option is doing things, albeit out of the goodness of your heart or for the betterment of humanity, without a chance of having a better financial/materialistic life for it. It's hard to be motivated with just a "thanks" or "oh, that's neat" when you're living just like everybody else, more than likely poor.

      Let's not bash capitalism, folks. You do it enough, and it does you no good. Besides, what's so bad?

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    4. Re:what makes humans precious? by illuminata · · Score: 0

      Wait, you won't argue what I had to say, just mod it down? Don't just pass me off, if you're opinions are worth anything show some backbone and prove me wrong rather than act like a prick with your modpoints.

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      Until Slashdot fixes the funny modifier, use insightful or interesting. The poster knows your intentions.
    5. Re:what makes humans precious? by Porthwhanker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And capitalism doesn't do that for you? People buying things fund creativity, intelligence, wit, and determination.

      I don't argue what you're saying, but I think creativity, intelligence, wit, and determination would still exist just as much without capitalism. I was just pointing out that too often we put more value on money than on what's really important in life.

      The other option is doing things, albeit out of the goodness of your heart or for the betterment of humanity, without a chance of having a better financial/materialistic life for it. It's hard to be motivated with just a "thanks" or "oh, that's neat" when you're living just like everybody else, more than likely poor.

      You could be right, but I've always found that doing something that's appreciated by other people is the most rewarding aspect of life, and it really doesn't matter if I get paid for it or not. I don't usually feel appreciated for the things I *do* get paid for, and that's not very satisfying in the end.

      Besides, money can often ruin creativity, like when an artist finds something that "works" and becomes formulaic in order to maximize financial gain.

    6. Re:what makes humans precious? by illuminata · · Score: 0

      Well, if that make you feel good, there's no problem, but why blame capitalism? I don't think someone that uses a formula in order to maximize financial gain is truly an artist if you ask me. They're a businessperson.

      To blame capitalism for someone's choices is like blaming the extended family of someone because they ended up ugly and with an extra toe.

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      Until Slashdot fixes the funny modifier, use insightful or interesting. The poster knows your intentions.
    7. Re:what makes humans precious? by lanswitch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Having people sit at home is never good for an economy. If governments can get handicapped people to be (more) integrated and thus more productive, they can save a lot on welfare and such. Plus the people themselves will feel stronger because they participate in society.
      Having a handicapped person in the family can be very taxing. Being ill is not easy, and the situation can lead to psycho-sociological problems. The more the person can do for him/herself, the better the family will function as a whole.Remember, even psycho-sociological problems will cost (the family and society) real money.

      been there.

    8. Re:what makes humans precious? by Porthwhanker · · Score: 1

      I think you're reading into my posts too much. I'm not blaming anyone (or anything). The first post was mostly meant as a joke, and in the second I was just trying to say that capitalism, like most things in life, is a double-edged sword. Don't get me wrong, I'm extremely glad I'm living in a capitalist society, seeing as what the other options are.

    9. Re:what makes humans precious? by kfg · · Score: 1

      You think a "Venn Diagram" is something German dermatologists draw, don'cha? :)

      KFG

    10. Re:what makes humans precious? by illuminata · · Score: 0

      Nah, I wasn't reading into them too much, moreso trying to prevent more leftist propaganda on Slashdot. It's hard to differentiate a joke and their bullshit nowadays. I don't browse the boards looking to hit up the lefties, but when I see something looking like a jab, I'll at least try to make them hold up their convictions. It's a newer trend, but rather fun.

      To quote the movie Network: "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it anymore!"

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      Until Slashdot fixes the funny modifier, use insightful or interesting. The poster knows your intentions.
    11. Re:what makes humans precious? by be-fan · · Score: 1

      Yeah, go get those damn pinko bastards!

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      A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
  9. translation by flynt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Could someone help me with this one?

    Charities and institutions think physical, Windows and money, so it's down to the geeks.

    What the hell is he trying to say with that sentence?

    1. Re:translation by Porthwhanker · · Score: 1
      Charities and institutions think physical, Windows and money, so it's down to the geeks.

      What the hell is he trying to say with that sentence?
      I think they meant to say:
      Charities and Institutions think, Windows and money belong physically to the geeks.
      but I could be wrong ;)
    2. Re:translation by illuminata · · Score: 0

      It's a hard one to translate, but I can pull out of it some leftist anger out of it with the "Windows and money" part. It might be about their buying choices.

      In short, a pissed off Stallmanite having to turn a software project into an anti-capitalist, self recognition crusade.

      "Gee whiz, guys. Look at me! I'm taking a stand for a cause."

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      Until Slashdot fixes the funny modifier, use insightful or interesting. The poster knows your intentions.
    3. Re:translation by artg · · Score: 4, Informative

      I read it as :

      "Charities and institutions think they need [expensive] special hardware and Windows based software. It's up to geeks to show what can be done with a bit of intelligence and applied engineering"

      Due to the relatively small market and high support costs, products made for disabled people are usually pretty expensive. This doesn't only apply to hospital-grade wheelchairs etc., but also to software like screenreaders.

    4. Re:translation by nadaou · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What the hell is he trying to say with that sentence?

      Charities and institutions like to quantify widgets delivered and present nice boxes with ribbons on them to sick kids in the hospital.

      aka throw money at the problem.

      While Linux may be brilliantly suited for folks in real need - due to the custom setups available for people who really need or want them - it doesn't really fit into the image of a valued product you can buy off the shelf and present with a smile in a PR photo. eg: Microsoft 'donating' "Billions $$" of MS software gets way better press & recognition than an open source developer writing a program that delivers most of the worlds email, for Free.
      Which leaves more for humanity as their legacy?

      The word of mouth thing among the families should really help the cause.

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      ~.~
      I'm a peripheral visionary.
    5. Re:translation by Total_Wimp · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are several fine translations here, but I just wanted to add that this line, and the line following may well have changed my life.

      I've known for a while that with a nice IT job and a good standard of living I needed to start thinking of ways I could give back to the community. But how? I'm not that interested in soup kitchen work and just giving money to United Way or whatever just seemed like a way to provide payroll for the organization instead of getting help to people that need it.

      But this is perfect for me. IT work is expensive if these people have to pay for it, but I can give it to them for free. Getting low-cost equipment, putting it together in a nice package and installing it... and spending some time with the person who needs to understand how it works... I can do this. It would be fun. I can make a difference.

      I don't mean to get all tear-jerky on y'all, but the original poster is dead-on. People like us, who are already used to helping out Grandma and Uncle Bob, can give the same kind of support to someone who really needs it. And it will be by doing something we love to do anyway.

      I'm in.

      TW

    6. Re:translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I see and hear this all the time. I even play the game.

      We just had our United Way meeting yesterday. I dragged a coworker with me to it (normally I skip them) but I decided it would be good for me to have the V.P. see me attend one of these things. (Kind of like the stories of the Pharisees in the bible.) Anyway, the V.P. stands at the podium and tells us that last year the local United Way provided 144,000* hot meals, fed 50,000 families at food shelves, provided 10,000 hours of physical therapy, etc., and that our company donated $15.6 million to the United Way last year, etc., etc.

      [ * These numbers are completely fictional, I wasn't sitting there taking notes. ]

      Yes, I know the United Way contributes to organizations that do good work. That's why I give to them. I just get annoyed that someone tabulates statistics that quantify "how much good" they do, and that these quantities are required to sell it to us.

      It really makes it feel like "helping people" doesn't seem as important as "being seen helping people." And like I said -- I played the game by being seen at the meeting.

      Anyway, it really does warm my heart to see Skipper out there. My aunt (with cerebral palsy) has asked for an on screen keyboard she can navigate with a trackball she uses under her foot. This sounds perfect!

      Number 1 Hypocrite.

    7. Re:translation by nadaou · · Score: 1

      I guess the thing to remember is that even if it is slightly wasteful and self serving, people are boing helped. The wastefil & self serving bit is all too often used as an excuse to do nothing.

      good on 'ya.

      --
      ~.~
      I'm a peripheral visionary.
    8. Re:translation by nadaou · · Score: 1

      I guess the thing to remember is that even if it is slightly wasteful and self serving, people are boing helped. The wastefil & self serving bit is all too often used as an excuse to do nothing.

      good on 'ya.

      --
      ~.~
      I'm a peripheral visionary.
  10. Genetically annealed? by JessLeah · · Score: 4, Funny

    What does "genetically annealed" mean? All I can guess is, umm, my Dad's name is Neal, so I guess I'm "genetically anNealed"?

    1. Re:Genetically annealed? by kfg · · Score: 1

      Good question. I know what each word means. I even know what they mean in combo. I haven't a clue as to what they mean with regards to menus.

      A quick Google search reveals only a couple of links. . .that ask "What does genetically annealed mean."

      Well, no help there. :)

      KFG

    2. Re:Genetically annealed? by Lord+Crc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's a minimization technique, ie finding the minimum of a function (say a cost function). I'm by no means an expert in the field, but I guess in this case they're using it to dynamically find the optimal menu configuration based on use or something like that.

      Here's a page that explains some of it.

    3. Re:Genetically annealed? by kfg · · Score: 1

      I'd seen the thermodynamic work of of Metropolis (et al) and was even aware of the generalization, so I'd come to much the same conclusion as yourself from context, but I'd still like to see something a bit more specific on this as applied to computer controlled feedback cycles.

      It's probably old hat to the robotics people. I guess I could go talk to some.

      KFG

    4. Re:Genetically annealed? by BenjyD · · Score: 1

      Well, annealing is an optimisation process that emulates the process of crystal formation in cooling molten materials. It avoids getting stuck in a local minima and missing the global minima by sometimes accepting a 'worse' solution than the current one during the search process with a certain probablity.

      Genetic search techniques work like evolution. You generate a 'generation' of candidate solutions, from which the best are selected (like natural selection) and the next generation are bred and so on until you get close enough to the optimum.

      Putting the two together, I would guess that genetic annealing is a genetic algorithm that has a certain probablity of selecting a solution from a generation that doesn't have the lowest objective function value in order to aviod getting stuck in local minima. In a way, I guess it's like preventing too much inbreeding in the solutions.

      That's only a guess though.

    5. Re:Genetically annealed? by Lord+Crc · · Score: 1

      Indeed, it would be very nice to get some more info on exactly how this was implemented.

  11. Yay! by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 0

    We haven't had a story just for the immature and cruel Slashdotters in a while. It's like adult swim, but backwards. Have fun, guys.

    1. Re:Yay! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's like adult swim, but backwards.

      miws tludA ?

      I don't get it.

    2. Re:Yay! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry. We got it. Sharp. Carry on.

    3. Re:Yay! by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 1

      That's 'cause you capitalized the "A". Now do you get it?

  12. Will it interface with this? by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My father has a very rare motor neuron disese, multifocal motor neuropathy (MMN). A treatment has been discovered which has reasonable effect, but it is possible he'll be paralysed eventually.

    He aquired a device which reads your EEG and uses it to control a computer. Check out http://www.brainfingers.com/ for details. So far he hasn't needed to use it, but in the future it might be a necessity.

    Anyway... This seems like ideal technology to combine with the stuff mentioned above. This should be at the OS level after all.

    (Just before everyone asks... the device does work, but you need to learn how to control your brainwaves. It's sort of like Palm's Grafiti for your head ;)

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    1. Re:Will it interface with this? by nadaou · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sure. And any 2nd year electrical engineering student should be able to set the thing up.

      Trick is to know enough so the circuit is designed so you don't fry the delicate piece of equipment.

      You can do all sorts of stuff with a PC serial/parallel/joystick port. Add the flexability of linux & X windows .. Actually X is a bit underated for this sort of stuff..

      See the lirc.org page for some easy places to start.

      $ apt-cache search accessibility
      at-spi - Assistive Technology Service Provider Interface
      at-spi-doc - Documentation files of at-spi for GNOME Accessibility
      ayttm - All in one Instant Messaging client, forked from Everybuddy
      falconseye - A port of NetHack using SDL
      falconseye-data - Data files for Falcon's Eye
      gnome-accessibility-themes - GNOME 2 accessibility themes
      lg-issue49 - Issue 49 of the Linux Gazette.
      libatk1.0-0 - The ATK accessibility toolkit
      libatk1.0-data - Common files for the ATK accessibility toolkit
      libatk1.0-dbg - The ATK libraries and debugging symbols
      libatk1.0-dev - Development files for the ATK accessibility toolkit
      libatk1.0-doc - Documentation files for the ATK toolkit
      libatspi-dev - Development files of at-spi for GNOME Accessibility
      libatspi1.0-0 - C binding libraries of at-spi for GNOME Accessibility
      libgail-common - GNOME Accessibility Implementation Library -- common modules
      libgail-dbg - Gail libraries and debugging symbols
      libgail-dev - GNOME Accessibility Implementation Library -- development files
      libgail-doc - Documentation files of Gail library
      libgail-gnome-dbg - libgail-gnome library and debugging symbols
      libgail-gnome-dev - Development files of libgail-gnome
      libgail-gnome-module - GNOME Accessibility Implementation Module for GnomeUI/BonoboUI
      libgail17 - GNOME Accessibility Implementation Library -- the shared libraries
      stalin - An extremely aggressive Scheme compiler
      xkbset - Small utility to change the AccessX settings of XKEYBOARD.
      cl-faq - This package contains Common Lisp-related FAQs
      w3-recs - [EBOOK-DEV] Recommendations of the W3
      w3-recs-2002 - [EBOOK-DEV] Recommendations of the W3 - Year 2002

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      ~.~
      I'm a peripheral visionary.
  13. I'm waiting for accessiblity suite... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...a mare could use.

  14. Hello! by Linux+Newbie+Girl · · Score: 1

    What's accessibility?

    1. Re:Hello! by byolinux · · Score: 2, Informative

      Presuming you're not joking, Accessibility is a bit of a buzz word of late, which talks of the concept of making something (in this case a computer) accessible to everyone regardless of their physical ability.

      As far as the web is concerned, there is the WAI which seeks to get people to make web pages that (by sticking to standards mainly) are easily navigated by people who may not have the ability to see a page, for example.

    2. Re:Hello! by byolinux · · Score: 2, Informative

      And I screwed up my link there - w3.org

    3. Re:Hello! by WerewolfOfVulcan · · Score: 3, Informative

      In technology, accessibility means designing (or modifying) a program or device so that people with disabilities can use it the same as everyone else. In architecture, it means designing (or modifying) buildings so that people with disabilities can easily get into and out. For more info, check out the Americans with Disabilities Act

    4. Re:Hello! by CurlyG · · Score: 1

      I try to think about it in terms of making everything equally accessible to everyone, no matter what. In real terms, to me that means approaching interface issues as if you might have intergalactic aliens attempting to navigate your web site or application.

      It affects the way you deal with user input and output on a pretty fundamental level, particularly if your user might be a 1-tentacled space monster with 20-20 vision in several dimensions, just not our ones...

      </ramble>

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  15. Re:I thought there already was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    tool

  16. Hawking by Alakaboo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...they might not be the next Einstein or Mozart...

    No, but they very well might be the next Stephen Hawking.

    1. Re:Hawking by alecto · · Score: 1

      +5, Funny; -1 Politically Incorrect -- net score, 4.

  17. From a user: Thank you! by the+man+with+the+pla · · Score: 5, Informative

    I lost most of the use of my fingers and 40 percent of my vision in a chemical accident 15 years ago. I am so glad to see linux taking steps to make things more usable for people like me. I truly feel linux will soon take the lead in accessibility (not to mention stability and performance) from Microsoft very soon. Thank you linux hackers! --Berry

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    The linux hacker
  18. This is probably... by canning · · Score: 4, Interesting

    one of the best articles I've seen on /. in recent memory. It really does make you feel good to belong to a group of people that would actually do something like this.

    You know, I really can't see the Microsoft community banding together like this. Kudos to the open source community, you should really feel proud of everything you've accomplished so far and about the direction you're heading.

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    1. Re:This is probably... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See www.microsoft.com/enable.

    2. Re:This is probably... by canning · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, I agree Microsoft the Corporation does something like this but not Microsoft the community.

      Big difference.

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    3. Re:This is probably... by spectecjr · · Score: 1

      You know, I really can't see the Microsoft community banding together like this. Kudos to the open source community, you should really feel proud of everything you've accomplished so far and about the direction you're heading.


      That's because Microsoft already has a massive array of accessibility tools and support for it built into every version of Windows, and every application.

      You don't need the 'community' to support something which has been an as-standard feature for the past 10 years.

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    4. Re:This is probably... by Fluffy+the+Cat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Win32 accessibility API sucks. Massively. It doesn't work as documented, and even if it did it would be less capable than the Gnome one. I've been working on integrating Dasher (site possibly down at the moment due to a power cut) into the accessibility functions available. Gnome was a piece of cake. Win32 was pain beyond belief.

  19. I'm afraid it means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    that your dad is, in fact Cowboy Neal!

    He has spawned.

    1. Re:I'm afraid it means... by zoloto · · Score: 1

      oh shit, it's spaceballs. There goes the planet.

  20. GNOME 2.4 Accessibility by oddityfds · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How does this relate to or even integrate with the new accessibility features in GNOME 2.4?

    1. Re:GNOME 2.4 Accessibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      GNOME has been doing a lot of work for blind or partially sighted users, and that stuff is getting really good. There are some features for physically disabled users in there, but they are about the same level as the Windows Accessibility Wizard, offering sticky keys, a simple onscreen keyboard you can work with a mouse and so on. Such people are nearly able bodied. Skipper fills in the huge hole between them and people at the Stephen Hawking or Christopher Reeve level of minimal movement, or with extreme involuntary movements as in cerebral palsy. It runs as a user mode process, so you can use it with any window manager, although its mainly intended for ctwm. It's best to use a very simple window manager and let the Skipper menu system do what the window manager would do for an able bodied user.

    2. Re:GNOME 2.4 Accessibility by esj+at+harvee · · Score: 4, Insightful

      unfortunately, the accessibility support for Gnome is only half of the story. There are many more people out there who suffer from "slight" mobility impairments like RSI, arthritis, and other problems of the hands or arms. These impairments keep them from using a keyboard to a significant degree and circus tricks like unicorn stakes or paddles are so inefficient as to be not worth using.

      These people need speech recognition and full featured speech recognition like that provided by NaturallySpeaking. The current demonstration recognizers like Sphinx don't come anywhere near the capabilities needed by handicapped users.

      today, these people cope by walking away from computers, getting keyboard slaves to type for them, or by using Windows.

      The needs of these people have been ignored because they are silent unlike the blind community. They are silent because the chronic pain and day-to-day struggle to make a living leaves no energy for advocacy but this does not make their needs any less important.

      Linux will not be completely handicapped accessible until you can operate the system either by discovering your monitor and listening or by discarding your keyboard and speaking.

      (This message written using Windows-based speech recognition)

    3. Re:GNOME 2.4 Accessibility by peterkorn · · Score: 2, Informative
      Users with RSI and a whole spectrum of disabilities that require speech input aren't being ignored. There simply aren't many options for voice recognition software under UNIX besides the very high end telephony products (that cost *lots* of money). There is a new generation Sphinx engine which is showing a lot of promise, and the GNOME accessibility architects at Sun (and elsewhere) are eagerly waiting for it to mature just a little bit more before tackling the first task which is command and control (the current Sphinx engine is starting to product good results in ~1,000 word vocabularies).

      Thus far the commercial vendors of desktop speech recognition technology (Dragon, IBM, etc.) have not made a public commitment to develop commercial products for UNIX environments. Though I'm hopeful that may change, we are continuing to work on Sphinx 4 so we have that as an option (and Sun is contributing to that effort).

      We are building a completely new accessibility platform in GNOME from the ground up. We aren't going to have 100% of the pieces in the first release. As we were able to move more quickly with technology for people with a wide range of visual and severe physical impairments, we felt it made sense to release those now rather than holding up a first release so that voice recognition could be part of it.

      The GNOME accessibility architecture was designed with voice recognition in mind from the very beginning.

    4. Re:GNOME 2.4 Accessibility by ArcCoyote · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      >>..until you can operate the system either by discovering your monitor and listening or by discarding your keyboard and speaking.
      >>
      >>(This message written using Windows-based speech recognition)

      Yup.

    5. Re:GNOME 2.4 Accessibility by esj+at+harvee · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I was blessed with a deep look into the making of two desktop speech recognition products. It's an extremely expensive process to make recognition engines which explains the lack of options. The development of sphinx to the same level as NaturallySpeaking will probably suck down about $5 million worth of development effort before you have a usable product. The example you gave of 1000 word vocabulary is a toy recognizer. If you aren't running at least 100,000 words continuous speech recognition at 120 words a minute, it will be more frustrating than useful to anyone accustomed to current standards in speech recognition.

      Personally I view command and control speech recognition as worse than useless. The real hand killer is text entry such as this message or program code. Using alternative input device for pushing buttons and menu selection is far less injuring than trying to use your voice in simulate mouse operations.

      For a very reasonable sum, code weavers could make NaturallySpeaking work on linux using their wine implementation. this is a win in a lot of ways. It makes speech recognition available on Linux and gives handicapped users an option if they want to leave windows behind. It also gives vendor a sense for the size of the Linux market for their product which would influence the development of a native implementation.

      There really isn't much choice in speech recognition. There is only a single vendor for desktop speech recognition today and that is scansoft. IBM has left the market and handed the remnants of the ViaVoice product line to scansoft. The rest of IBM's research is now aimed at IVR systems and not desktop recognition. The only other vendors that I know of is Phillips and, when last I looked, their engine was so far behind the technology curve that I don't consider it usable.

      If I had any say in the direction of Gnome accessibility, I push the NaturallySpeaking on code weavers and bridge the NaturallySpeaking API to Gnome. This would solve the immediate problem and provide a gold standard by which one could evaluate other solutions.

  21. Re:BACK UNDER YOUR BRIDGE, TROLL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but you have to admit, these threads are extremely entertaining.

  22. Hrm by drosselmeyer · · Score: 1

    Only Windows software is described on the site. I wonder, what will happen when Win crashes or locks up (which happens invariably to me at least) and the user won't even be able to push the reset button?

    But that's beside the point. Since you have already had hands-on experience with the device and the company that sells it, could you tell if they will provide low-level technical documentation, so that it would be possible to make use of that in Linux? That sounds like one of those projects I've always been drooling over doing but lacked appropriate hardware.

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    1. Re:Hrm by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 1

      But that's beside the point. Since you have already had hands-on experience with the device and the company that sells it, could you tell if they will provide low-level technical documentation, so that it would be possible to make use of that in Linux? That sounds like one of those projects I've always been drooling over doing but lacked appropriate hardware.

      From what little I've had to do with them I've gotten the impression that they are pretty open about their stuff. Contacting them would make sense. The hardware is quite expensive though, or at least it was when it was bought.

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    2. Re:Hrm by PsychoKick · · Score: 1

      Brainwave machine with Linux support:
      www.IBVA.com

  23. Re:More like how to be a nigger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You must be new here. Come here, I'll show you around.

  24. MSCock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    I understand how disabled people input data by using whatever part of their body they can control.

    But the box labled "MsCock" in the diagram on the Skipper front page disturbs me...

    1. Re:MSCock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I understand how disabled people input data by using whatever part of their body they can control.

      Like this?

    2. Re:MSCock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ah. MsCock is a modular component for switching a stream of mouse type data on and off. From plumbing, as in stopcock. It's a bit Terence and Philip, but calling it MsSwitch would make a longer word. That makes the component bigger, and that makes the virtual machine harder to understand when configuring it graphically.

    3. Re:MSCock by ArcCoyote · · Score: 1

      Go ahead, make your MsCock bigger, we won't mind a bit!

  25. Re:More like how to be a nigger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not new... but I have a newly discovered love for reading at the -1 threshhold :)

  26. Ahoy there Skipper!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yarrr there matey! This is clearly some sort of pirate lingo. Guess the RIAA will set their sights on the handicapped next. Arrr, Shiver me timbers!

  27. Re:More like how to be a nigger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually I think the quality of -1 trolls is deteriorating. There used to be some pretty funny trolls here. Nowadays, the "in soviet russia"'s seem to have taken over.

    Ah the good old days when trolls logged in, because they where already at negative karma, and had nothing to lose.

  28. One Question.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    assuming that's a serious question, because it's seriously not funny...

  29. Re:fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish I had mod points left because that actually made me laugh.

  30. Re:From a user: Thank you! by tobybuk · · Score: 1

    What arse wiping dick head moded this as offtopic?

  31. Whoops, spoke too soon. by PsychoKick · · Score: 1

    Whoops, spoke too soon. Linux support is only planned for the future, not currently available.

  32. Re:More like how to be a nigger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem is CmdrTaco farted out some Pearl one day, and implemented a system that means that those excelent trolls who sadly have negative karma can a) Only post twice a day b) Get banned for 72 hours at a time. So now all we get are newbie AC's who post the same old tired shit over and over again because they're too fucking stupid to sit down and write a decent troll.

    Although some of us can still troll a +5 Insightful, although whoever whacked that down with a "Overrated" gets herpes and dies.

  33. Re:One Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes. There are menu options for simulating funny control chords used only by Gimp, like CTRL , and CTRL . because doing cool graphics is something lots of people might be into - not just born geeks who have never had the chance to hack.

  34. Could be useful for wearable computers by TheLink · · Score: 1

    This sort of thing could be useful for wearable computers.

    Control by using thought/brainwaves would help too.

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  35. Re:I thought there already was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Physical and mental or psychological disability are different things. Windows is optimised for people handicapped by sloth and willful ignorance, in a way that prevents intelligence and imagination being useful. Such psychological disability is very common in our culture, because it is induced in hangovers from the agrarian/industrial age called "schools". Linux is now accessible by people with brains, but very damaged bodies.

  36. Re:More like how to be a nigger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Excelent! I salute you. (I presume it was you)

    As an old-school troll, I admire the stylish and capable manner in which you created that troll.

    It's good to see some still have it in them.

  37. Good enough. :) by drosselmeyer · · Score: 1

    Planned for the future is good enough - gives me time to save up the money. :)

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  38. Genetically annealed? by sean.peters · · Score: 1

    Give me CowboyAnnealed any time.

    Sean

  39. No, I'm New Here by New+Here · · Score: 0

    No, I'm New Here

  40. Optimisation: Genetic Algorithm and Simulated Anne by handy_vandal · · Score: 1

    Optimisation: Genetic Algorithm and Simulated Annealing

    "The working principle of simulated annealing is borrowed from metallurgy: a piece of metal is heated (= the atoms are given thermal agitation), then left to cool slowly. The slow and regular cooling of the metal allows the atoms to slide progressively in their most stable ("minimal energy") positions. (Rapid cooling would have "frozen" them in whatever position they happened to be at that time.) The resulting structure of the metal is stronger and stabler. Here we do not minimize the energy of a block of metal, but some cost function relevant to the problem at hand."

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  41. One handed computing at last! by Azethoth666 · · Score: 1

    Seems like this might be real usefull as well for surfing uhm interresting sites when, .. er .., I only have one hand available.

  42. Skipper has proprietary technology in it by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 1

    I can't sanction it's use. Notice in the diagram on the home page of the linked article. It has two copies of MS Cock built in. (Seriously, look closely at the diagram abd you will see I'm not lying) Aside from the fact that most Microsoft employees aren't noted for being well endowed. I just can't sanction the use of Microsoft software in an open source product!