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Flash-Freezing Squirrels

tessaiga writes "ABCNews has an article describing how a student at the University of Alaska (PDF) is conducting research involving supercooling arctic ground squirrels. During hibernation, these squirrels have the ability to reduce their food requirements to almost nothing by supercooling their bloodstream and dropping their internal temperatures to 26F (6 degrees below freezing!). Scientists are investigating how the process occurs without particles in the bloodstream triggering crystalization. The article goes on to mention applications in treating accident victims (to extend the 'golden hour' before brain damage occurs) and human suspended animation."

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  1. Reminds me of the Super Monkey Collider by Picass0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Super Monkey Collider Loses Funding

    Congress voted Monday to cut federal funding for the superconducting monkey collider, a controversial experiment which has cost taxpayers an estimated $7.6 billion a year since its creation in 1983.

    The collider, which was to be built within a 45-mile-long circular tunnel, would accelerate monkeys to near-light speeds before smashing them together. Scientists insist the collider is an important step toward understanding the universe, because no one can yet say for certain what kind of noises monkeys would make if collided at those high speeds.

    "It could be a thump, a splat, or maybe even a sound that hasn't yet been heard by human ears," said project head Dr. Eric Reed Friday, in an impassioned plea to Congress. "How are we supposed to understand things like the atom or the nature of gravity if we don't even know what colliding monkeys sound like?"

    But Congress, under heavy pressure from the powerful monkey rights lobby, decided that money being spent on the monkey collider would be put to better use in other areas of government. Now, with funding cut off, the future of our nation's monkey collision program looks bleak.

    Congress began funding the monkey collider in 1983, after Reed convinced lawmakers that the U.S. was lagging behind the Soviet Union in monkey-colliding technology. Funds were quickly allocated so that Reed could spend a week procuring monkeys on Florida's beautiful Captiva Island. Though Reed returned with a great tan and a beautiful young fiancee, he reported that there were no monkeys to be found on the sunny Gulf Coast island. Congress funded subsequent trips to the Cayman Islands, Bora Bora and Cancun, but these searches also yielded negative results.

    Two years passed without a single monkey being procured, and Congress was close to cutting the project's funding. It was then that Reed got the idea to utilize monkeys already being bred in captivity. The Congressional Subcommittee for Scientific Investigation was enthralled by the idea of watching caged monkeys copulate, and increased funding by 40 percent.

    With a steady supply of monkeys ensured, construction of the monkey collider began on a scenic Colorado site. Despite environmental pressure, a mountain was levelled to facilitate construction of the seven-mile-wide complex. Huge underground tunnels were dug, at a cost of billions of dollars and 17 lives. Money left over was used to build resort homes, spas and video arcades for Reed, his colleagues and several Congressmen.

    Construction of the collider's acceleration mechanism was delayed for years, as scientists couldn't decide how to get the monkeys up to smashing speed. Last month, it was finally decided that the collider would employ a system in which the monkeys run through the tunnels chasing holographic projections of bananas. "Monkeys love bananas," Reed said, "and they're willing to run extremely fast to get them."

    But now it seems the acceleration mechanism may never be built. With the monkey collider placed on indefinite hold, the huge research facility in Colorado lies dormant. To keep the space from going to waste, Congress Monday voted to convert the empty underground tunnel into a federally funded drag-racing track. The track is expected to create hundreds of jobs in the form of pit crews and concessions workers, and will allow President Clinton to impress important foreign dignitaries with America's wheelie technology.

    Despite this promising alternate plan, most involved with the monkey collider project feel the sudden cuts in funding are inexcusable. "It is a travesty of science," Reed said. "I remember the joy I felt in college when I would launch monkeys at one another with big rubber bands, and this project would have been even more enlightening."

    1. Re:Reminds me of the Super Monkey Collider by ThaReetLad · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I needed that.

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  2. Squirrels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, you can tell those squirrels are into cryonic suspension. Last night I went to Central Park and saw a squirrel flash-freezing its nuts.

    (With apologies to David Letterman)

  3. Thanks by KevinIsOwn · · Score: 0, Troll

    dropping their internal temperatures to 26F (6 degrees below freezing!)

    Thanks, for a minute there I wasn't sure if the temperature water freezes at was still 32 degrees F...

    1. Re:Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it's 32. Farehnheit didn't develop his scale around the properties of agua.

    2. Re:Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't design his scale around ANYTHING I've ever heard anyone relate to.

    3. Re:Thanks by funaho · · Score: 1

      Google is your friend :)

      http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/mar99/92196 17 17.Ph.r.html

    4. Re:Thanks by FrenZon · · Score: 1
      Thanks, for a minute there I wasn't sure if the temperature water freezes at was still 32 degrees F...
      Don't forget that most of the world uses Celcius, and wouldn't have a clue what those strange 'F' units are.
    5. Re:Thanks by linzeal · · Score: 1

      And most of science uses kelvin but also knows what celsius is.

    6. Re:Thanks by Chris+Hall · · Score: 1

      >Don't forget that most of the world uses Celcius, and wouldn't have a clue what those strange 'F' units are.

      Yes, but the rest of us can always get a clue if we don't already know the formula (F=9C/5+32). Google will also cope with Kelvin (K=C+273.15), but not Reamur (Re=4C/5) or Rankine (R=9K/5)

      (Sorry: there should be an acute accent on the 'e' of "Reamur" and "Re", but entering a literal one, using é, and using é all seem to fail.)

    7. Re:Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey, fuck you. i thought it was 31

    8. Re:Thanks by Urkki · · Score: 1

      Ah, but it's still very polite to tell what kind of temperatures you are talking about, so entire Celcius-using world doesn't need to go to google...

      Not to mention, I would not be surprised if a lot of (non-geek) people in southern US for example don't even remember what is freezing point of water in Fahrenheit, any more than I remember what is the freezing point of quicksilver in Celsius... After all it has no bearing in their daily lives in the south where temperature never goes below 0C, so it's just an obscure "random" number for them.

    9. Re:Thanks by jdray · · Score: 1

      What, do you think that no one in the American South has a refrigerator? Furthermore, 32 degrees Farenheit is a significant number down there, because they know that you can chill PBR below the freezing point of water without freezing it, making the setting of temperatures on your beer fridge an important skill.

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    10. Re:Thanks by Urkki · · Score: 1

      Well, usually fridges don't have thermometers, or at least people don't check that very often if they have one. And anyway fridges stay a few degrees above freezing point, while freezers stay well below freezing point, so there's never actually any need to measure temperatures around freezing point, other than outside temperatures in the north.

      Though maybe that PBR is a good reason, but I've got no idea what it is, 'cos your link didn't work :-)

    11. Re:Thanks by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      As a Floridian I have to say you're more confused than the old people south of me. BTW it does snow here once every few years, thanks.

      Jaysyn

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    12. Re:Thanks by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      It's beer, and the link works fine. Are you being proxied? I'll say it again, it does get cold in the south, just not so cold as up north.

      Jaysyn

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    13. Re:Thanks by jdray · · Score: 1

      Yeah, though I was in Texas and Arkansas back in '88 when that big Arctic freeze came down over the central U.S. There was about 10 inches of snow in Little Rock, which shut down the whole city. The highway in Texarkana was a solid sheet of ice with a wreck about every 100 yards. What a mess. That was cold, even for the South.

      I also had the (mis)fortune to be in Fairbanks shortly after that. Now, it's normally cold up there, but that was the worst cold I've ever experienced. The wind felt like (I imagine) a hurricaine of swords and razors, and even heavy parkas and hot coffee couldn't keep me warm. Luckily, our itinerary took us down to (balmy by comparisson) Anchorage in short order. The temperature was up to only miserable there, and when the wind stopped blowing, you could actually walk around outside without praying for a swift death.

      BTW, "PBR" is Pabst Blue Ribbon beer, a long time favorite in the South, now gaining a certain trendy following in the rest of the country.

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  4. PS - Credits to The Onion by Picass0 · · Score: 1

    forgot to add that. They don't seem to have this on the site any longer.

  5. Reminds me of Robert Heinlein... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember reading a Heinlein book when I was a kid - "The door into summer". This brings back memories. Not quite the same species as he predicted for the pioneering of suspended animation, but small and cute nonetheless. Very interesting.

    -FuzzyBear

    1. Re:Reminds me of Robert Heinlein... by Muhammar · · Score: 1

      The door into summer was my absolute favorite. The kind of story where the technicaly oriented guy survives intriques of a his slimy lawyer-buddy, gets two hibernated sleeps and one time travel, and ends up marrying a beautiful girl. Dream on, buddy.

      The arctic lizards - they must have some antifreeze proteins which inhibit ice crystal nucleation, the same as arctic fish has, so it can stay overcooled for some time. People would have to be given a massive IV infusion of this stuff before this could be used.

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    2. Re:Reminds me of Robert Heinlein... by Bishop923 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The arctic lizards...

      Squirrels are Mammals, not Lizards

    3. Re:Reminds me of Robert Heinlein... by Muhammar · · Score: 1

      But are they aware of it?

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    4. Re:Reminds me of Robert Heinlein... by bobbozzo · · Score: 1

      salt should have the same effect (at least to an extent).

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    5. Re:Reminds me of Robert Heinlein... by RetsamYthgimla · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, but with salt, you need a very large concentration of salt. Your blood might be able to handle that much salt, but osmosis dictates that one of two things will happen to all the cells in your body: they will export water and shrivel up and die, or they will absorb the salt, which contains lots of ions, + and -, which will royally screw with your internal chemistry, and probably kill you.

      Whatever is in the squirrels (or the lizards, where did they come from?) has to be either much more effective than salt, to keep the concentration low, or it has to be much less reactive (non-ionized perhaps, like sugar or alcohol) than salt.

  6. Damn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Flash-Freezing Squirrels

    I wonder how Flash manufacturers will react to the news.

  7. Super Geek Connection by daeley · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A variety of the New Zealand weta (a cool cricket for which the LotR FX studio is named), has developed special proteins that enable it to survive through harsh alpine winters in a sort of hibernation with up to 80% of its body water frozen.

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    1. Re:Super Geek Connection by TwistedGreen · · Score: 1

      Up to 80%?

      So I guess that means someone collected a whole bunch of these crickets, froze them at various temperatures, and dissected those that died to determine how much of them had to be frozen in order to kill them.

      What a cool job.

  8. Ahh.. these scientists.. by QuantumG · · Score: 1

    Anything to get Sigourney Weaver back in her underwear.

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  9. Supercooling moving fluids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A somewhat unclear excerpt from the article...

    You can supercool water by filling a test tube and then slowly freezing it. If the water is kept very still, it may remain in liquid state as the temperature drops below freezing. But it will instantly freeze if disturbed or if contaminated by a particle that then acts as a template for more ice to form.

    In a similar way, the arctic ground squirrel manages to keep its body fluids flowing despite below freezing temperatures.


    Um. Okay, so you can cool liquid water below freezing by keeping it perfectly still. And in a similar(?!) way, a squirrel keeps its fluids moving below freezing? Sorry. How's that similar? I missed something there. The squirrel is NOT using a similar method if there is movement of its fluids.

    1. Re:Supercooling moving fluids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Different methods, but for similar results. The reason they have you use water that can't be moved is because you probably don't have an arctic ground squirrel to put in the freezer to test it with.

    2. Re:Supercooling moving fluids by DonVictor · · Score: 1
      Survival tip:



      Remember, in an arctic environment, the best place to conserve water is in your squirrel.

  10. Golden hour? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The article goes on to mention applications in treating accident victims (to extend the 'golden hour' before brain damage occurs) and human suspended animation."

    The "golden hour" only refers to low blood pressure, with oxygen still available? If someone is unconsious and not getting oxygen, brain damage sets in in only four minutes... right?

    1. Re:Golden hour? by bhaskin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes and No. The golden hour really doesn't relate to blood pressure or any specific vital sign.

      It's a rule of thumb for the time from severe trauma injuries occuring to the time you have the patient in an OR. Basically if you can get them there (still breathing and alive) in an hour or less you have a much greater chance for survival.

      If the brain is deprived of oxygen yes damage will occur in 4 minutes or less. And actually if there is no pulse on arrival to a trauma scene (car accident usually) the victim will generally just be declared dead without any resuscitation attempt.

      Once a person requires CPR even from a non-traumatic medical condition the rate of survival is less than 5%. So next time you see one of those miraculous cpr recoveries in a movie you can look around and pick out the ems personnel by the way they're rolling their eyes and laughing. :}

      Janzert

    2. Re:Golden hour? by ThaReetLad · · Score: 1

      IIRC in russia they are doing open heart surgery by packing the patient in ice and cooling the body down to a point where the heart is only beating a few times a minute. At that point they are able to stop the heart and perform the surgery and then restart the heart sometime later, all without damaging the patient and without the need for expensive machines to keep the blood flowing.

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    3. Re:Golden hour? by Jerdie · · Score: 1

      This is exactly correct, as an EMT and firefighter I say you are right on.

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    4. Re:Golden hour? by bhaskin · · Score: 1

      I'm a firefighter myself, although just a lowly MFR. But I'm sure we've both sat through the same explanation at least a dozen times.

      Janzert

  11. Interesting by Sevn · · Score: 1

    This page was generated by a Squadron of Psycho Squirrels for Sevn

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  12. If "Gonads and strife.swf" is any indication by yerricde · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wonder how Flash manufacturers will react to the news.

    Flash? Squirrels? Flash and squirrels?

    Yo, I went up to a thug gangster and he was like, Yo motherf***** WEEEE!!!

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  13. Freeze THIS Squirrel by sipy · · Score: 2, Funny
    The dude at this URL: Drunken Squirrel is a perfect candidate for freezing. He's already liquored-up. He won't feel a thing!

    "My God, it's full of... fur!" - Dave Bowman, circa 2003

  14. Hmmm, eight months sleep.. by annisette · · Score: 1

    It would be very noble to use any development of this student's findings to help accident victims but how long is a voyage to Mars?,I think it is nine months?

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  15. Forget freezing them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just shoot them.

  16. You think YOU'VE got troubles?! by YouHaveSnail · · Score: 1

    Some kid and his mentor catch squirrels, stick 'em in a pickle jar full of ether, slit 'em open, and sew 'em closed after inserting a rubberized, temperature-sensing Oreo, and you guys are worried about little ol' RFID tags in your t-shirts?!

  17. F me? by Rhinobird · · Score: 1

    F-you! you...
    oh wait...f UNITS
    my mistake.

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  18. Creepy by Rhinobird · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was reading what he did to the squirrels and was struck by parrelells to alien abductions...consider, the squirrel is looking for food, finds some, then BAM! he's stuck in a cage, moved into an alien environment, thrown in a jar and passes out. When he wakes up he's back in the wild with a new scar on his belly and he can feel an implant. He goes to tell his friends that there are these giant hairless creatures that took him to a strange place and performed experiments on him, but they all think he's crazy.

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    1. Re:Creepy by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The best part is that the aliens always seem to abduct rednecks. I'm guessing they too are doing studies on supercooling, and they are testing to see if the high alcohol content in the blood of trailer trash will prevent it from freezing.

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  19. Damn overclockers. by dbirchall · · Score: 1
    "Duuude, if we can keep the squirrels at 26F, we can overclock them by at least 50%."

    Just what the world needs - supercooled squirrels that run even faster.

    Now no birdfeeder will be safe.

    (Somewhere in here, Foamy from Ill Will Press's "Neurotically Yours" should get mentioned...)

  20. 'Dude! Check this out!' by Channard · · Score: 1

    'Dude.. check this out. These squirrels totally shatter when you smash them against the bench!'
    'Cool! Hasta la vista, Tufty!'
    'Very cool.'
    'So, what was supposed to be the aim of this experiment?'
    'Beats me.'

    1. Re:'Dude! Check this out!' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Freezing insects and frogs has long been a fun part of LOX servicing in the aircraft maintenance world. :) They do shatter agreeably!

  21. Who cares about Mars? by tqft · · Score: 1

    Well I do.

    But think bigger. The moons of Jupiter and Saturn. Are you going to trust a machine to be able to do everything if you think there really is life in the (possible) ocean out there.

    And every kg saved is amazingly precious on such a long mission. Hell chilled down and packed in, the astronauts could be treated a bit more roughly with the g's. Freeze em down and blast them out from a rail gun in orbit - thats what the ISS should be for.

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    1. Re:Who cares about Mars? by annisette · · Score: 1

      Well said, I could not agree with you more. Lets not forget that the perfect ISS has been revolving around this planet for billions of years, your friend and mine the Moon.

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    2. Re:Who cares about Mars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right. All that will do is make Newton laugh out loud because you ignored his rules. That, and put the launcher (IIS, as you say) in a crater somewhere in Russia.

    3. Re:Who cares about Mars? by tqft · · Score: 1

      The sad thing is I have a viable business plan - aluminium from the regolith using solar power and sold for space construction. To make Solar power satellites to beam to an energy starved planet.

      Don't forget that the water on the moon is amazingly valuable - even at a launch cost of $100/kg the equivalent launch cost is in the trillions to replace it all. Every person approx 50kg water - needs between $10k and $50k of water alone to support them in space over a reasonable period (between 2 and 10 times the amount of water in their body).

      All that is missing is the $10b upfront in cash willing to be bet on the technical risk.

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    4. Re:Who cares about Mars? by annisette · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a great idea. Getting the mass (Water)from the moon to the earth would be a great nich for the Ion engine, slow moving but cheap. There was a great article about beam forming from rolls of malleable metal. the ratio of mass delivered to space and the amount of structural strength that could be formed was very impressive. With the idea of a rail gun on the moon, you could ship your NI-AL spools and with an Ion engine, ship icebergs to the orbit of earth, or even ship ahead (of the manned mars mission) to mars by months, to be used for water or fuel. You do have a great idea but 10b will only get you to the moon to say hello, maybe,land and do the first shovel into the soil ceremony. My guess would be 20-50x your estimate to be in operation. The return would be like buying Microsoft at $.oooo1 @ share.////// IF I seem to be pushing ion engines, I am,ION ENGINES ROCK. Pushing the the DC-3's of space.

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    5. Re:Who cares about Mars? by annisette · · Score: 1

      Perhaps I did make a typo, I ment that the moon would make the perfect ISS, and the rail gun would be positioned on the moon.

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  22. That's nothing by The-Bus · · Score: 1

    I've been flash-freezing shrimp, cow parts, chickens, and many varieties of fish in a contraption known as the "freezer" -- perhaps Mr. Long could benefit from this knowledge.

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  23. rationalization by kwoff · · Score: 1

    From the article:
    "But before it would be freed, it would become part of an experiment that could someday help suppress human appetites, or even save lives on the battlefield."

    In other words, we torture the squirrels
    so that fatass armchair-Schwartzkopfs
    can get thinner with no effort while
    watching the USA shock and awe people
    on CNN and FOX.

    1. Re:rationalization by untaken_name · · Score: 1

      From the article:
      "But before it would be freed, it would become part of an experiment that could someday help suppress human appetites, or even save lives on the battlefield."

      In other words, we torture the squirrels
      so that fatass armchair-Schwartzkopfs
      can get thinner with no effort while
      watching the USA shock and awe people
      on CNN and FOX.


      Point the first: I am not torturing squirrels for the reasons you stated. I am torturing them just for fun.
      Point the second: If they all get thinner, they won't be fatasses anymore.
      Point the third: There's only one Schwarzkopf.
      Point the fourth: You shouldn't be so hard on yourself. You really are a worthwhile person and your self-esteem problems will clear up once you've passed puberty.
      Actually, that last part is just bullshit. I don't have any way of knowing if you really are worthwhile or not. I'm just guessing that your obvious esteem issues are unfounded. Maybe you *should* feel guilty for being alive.

  24. it's not similar; it's antifreeze by js7a · · Score: 2, Insightful
    so you can cool liquid water below freezing by keeping it perfectly still. And in a similar(?!) way, a squirrel keeps its fluids moving below freezing? Sorry. How's that similar?

    Good point. I remember reading about these critters years ago, but I can't find anything pertinent on the web right now. I distinctly remember that the supercooling of liquid water has nothing to do with the squirrels' below-freezing survival. Their secret is instead similar to Prestone.

    The way I remember it, the squirrels have some kind of a pervasive antifreeze enzyme in their cell cytoplasm, membranes, and fluids. Since it's pervasive enough to keep everything from ice damage, it's probably produced from simple gene expression (i.e. not in a gland or a specialized tissue), which means, you can probably splice the gene into a whole heck of a lot of things. Not just rodents; maybe oranges, and other frost-sensitive crops. Maybe people.

    I'm pretty amazed with the unlikelyhood of the research described in the ABCnews article. I'm somewhat ambivalent about the kind of genetic engineering involved, but this is certainly worth looking at.

    1. Re:it's not similar; it's antifreeze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I struggle to remember the birthdays of people who matter to me, but I easily remember an article I read in 1982 in a Scientific American about frogs surviving sub-zero temperatures. Glucose (antifreeze, close enough) between the cells was the key.

    2. Re:it's not similar; it's antifreeze by lawpoop · · Score: 1
      There is an arctic flounder that has a similar antifreeze protein. It binds to ice crystals to prevent them from growing, which would rip apart cells.

      Some biotech company isolated the gene and put it in tomatos to make them frost-resistant. Here is a link.

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  25. Blood...water by chia_monkey · · Score: 1

    Who gives a flyin' F if WATER freezes at 32F. What's the freezing temperature for squirrel blood? If it's 20F, then they still have a good way to go.

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    1. Re:Blood...water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From what I remember, 0 F is the freezing point of pig's blood.

  26. hey yall by painehope · · Score: 1
    that ain't nothing new...
    me and Bubba been flash-freezin' squirrels for years. `Cept the ones my sister hit with the shotgun.
    Squirrels and buckshot don't do too well...

    For those who don't get the joke, it's a Texas thing. Quite a few people I've known had squirrels in the deep freezer. Makes decent stew, just a bit tough.

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    1. Re:hey yall by untaken_name · · Score: 1

      For those who don't get the joke, it's a Texas thing. Quite a few people I've known had squirrels in the deep freezer. Makes decent stew, just a bit tough.

      I'm from Texas as well, but surprisingly enough I actually know the difference between freezing something and flash-freezing it.
      Of course, it's possible that junk flash-freezer rebuilding has replaced junk trans-am rebuilding as the redneck national sport here in TX, but last time I drove by the trailer park I didn't see a single flash-freezer up on blocks in a driveway.
      Technoweenies should be able to tell the difference between lowering the temperature of an object dramatically in seconds and changing it moderately in the course of an hour or so. Of course, I'm sure everyone who posted a 'redneck freezer' joke will claim to have known the difference, and that it just doesn't matter because they were trying to make a joke. Here's a hint to all you lazy fuckers: words mean things. Sometimes, words and concepts can be this thing we call 'related' or 'vaguely similar'. These things are not exactly the same. For example, sandals and boots are similar, but not the same. Also, 'freezing something in your home refrigerator's freezer compartment' is only vaguely related to 'lowering something's temperature to -40 degrees in seconds'

    2. Re:hey yall by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      Oh yum, tree-rat, just what I want to eat.

      Jaysyn

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  27. Welcome! by GeoGreg · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our supercooled rodent overlords!

  28. Lame. Very, very lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you must have been that kid who would repeat the newest catch-prase over and over again to get attention from your peers until finally they got so annoyed with you they gave you the biggest grundy of your life.

  29. If you've been putting them in a freezer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you haven't been "flash-freezing" them, dick muncher.

  30. OMFG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had no idea that users of the celcius scale were so backward and illiterate that they don't even have a clue what F units are. That's really very sad considering how long F units have been around and how short C units have been around.

    Oh well, I guess that is why the had to develop the celsius scale. So that really fucking stupid people could tell if they were cold or not.

    1. Re:OMFG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, those stupid people fucked your mother and produced a Fahrenheit loving fag.

      you - squirrel's freezed ass.

  31. antarctic fish by Pi+Thirds · · Score: 0

    Research on this has been done on antarctic fish. Apparently, there are "antifreeze" proteins in the fish blood stream. These proteins don't reduce the freezing point of the blood (that would take an intoxicatingly high concentration of chemical) but instead they attach to the surface of microscopic ice crystals and interfere with the growth.

  32. Too late by whitefox · · Score: 1
    (to extend the 'golden hour' before brain damage occurs)

    I guess it's too late for some SCO execs I know.

  33. In other news, squirrel to be thawed by friggin.. by inteller · · Score: 1

    ...laser beams (on sharks no less)

  34. Who cares about Mars???? by winkydink · · Score: 1
    Who cares about squirrels in space? That's what I want to know.

    We have the Chinese, now squirrels. Before you know it, the voles will start a space program too.

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    "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

    1. Re:Who cares about Mars???? by annisette · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they will and their space ship can be called the volkswagon!

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      I eat my grapes at room temperature, cuz the cold ones hurt my teeth