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AOL Plans Console Gaming Ladder, PS2 Hookup
Thanks to Reuters for their story discussing AOL's announcement of the forthcoming 'AOL Ladders' console ranking service for PlayStation 2 and GameCube, as a partnership with the Case's Ladder ranking site. However, the free-to-AOL-subscribers ladder system isn't automatic in any way: "After finding an opponent, players play and then report their statistics [on the website]", making it a relative non-event, and seemingly unrelated to AOL's announcement of a Nintendo partnership earlier this year. Elsewhere in the article, it's mentioned that "AOL... and Sony's video game unit, Sony Computer Entertainment of America, are working on a version of the AOL service designed to run on the PS2", and that it may debut after Sony "releases a hard drive for the PS2", although this partnership has already been in progress for over two and half years.
Is it good to play together?
(Use a disposable account from a disposable IP before moderating this up. Editors generally watch and see who moderates controversial things like this up.)
When you are logged in,
Please *log out* AND use another browser before making your AC comments.
Your UID is being tracked, it's not Anonymous. Lots of people post lots of things to Slashdot as AC only because they believe it is really anonymous - it isn't. They hunt "trolls" (non-karma whores and non-group thinking bots) down.
This is true. I used to be a bit more freestyle and witty AC and be a nice guy logged in [basically a karma whore]. After a short while, I could no longer moderate. Slashdot does brand AC posts with IP and then map them back to users. They lie about AC, AC doesn't exist if you re-use ip addresses.
Big brother is watching. So while I might be a "troll" a lot of the AC things I said were to protect myself from Slash-bot groupthink. They punished me for voicing my opinion freestyle.
They also revoke moderation FOREVER - $rtbl it is called, for any moderations of any post that have been secretly flagged annoying [Slashcode has hidden flags viewable by editors]. If you *EVER* mod up something an editor secretly marked annoying you NEVER moderate again, ever - ever even if your karma is capped.
Also, Slashdot uses the friends system to track "trolls." Mark a troll you find funny as a friend *bang* $rtbl never to moderate ever again. My real account had many many good friends who had good karma, and a few funny trolls later, no more moderation for that account. Again, Slashdot is spying on its users to make the people who find certain things funny uneligible to moderate. You will never moderate again if you are a friend of a "foe or freak" of an editor.
FACT: This is in Slashcode CVS
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So AC is a scam here. Hitler-Malda screws AC posts in the caboose. So now all you can do is go 100% AC, or , as they expect you to, KARMA WHORE. And it is so lame and unfair and probably illegal as they lie about anonymity.
Also, sometimes when certain information becomes an active thread, they bitchslap the thread much later so that people think its "safe" to participate and the whole thing gets slapped.
There is a presumption anonymous means something. They lie like rugs to the posting public by using the word anonymous. It is not. They brazenly lie though and the un-assuming poster is having everything he says correlated with him and stored in a computer just waiting to be subpoenaed by the people that Slashdot claims to hate but works for. They work for the fascist forces and components of the US government. I like the US and other Western governments but they have good and bad components - there are things you need to do to protect yourself from the bad components. Basically "covering your ass" so to speak. At Slashdot, in lying about AC, un-protects its posting public (seeding a de-anonymizing privacy stripping pandemic in their own "little" way). This makes Slashdot a very dangerous target for you the posters to have your "anonymous" information subpoenaed and you to be chased down and persecuted for speaking your mind. I think that it is a joke Slashdot editors post about SCO, MSFT, RIAA, MPAA, TIA, FBI, etc. They do the same fascist big-brotherly things that those companies do the public at large as they do to the Slashdot posting public.
Protect yourself. Try and use proxies or a super good second browser with proxies that you never log into such as Opera (which makes it very easy to delete all private data). Thank you.
It's been my experience that Cases's Ladder is not the best way to do PVP ranking. Years ago I played Worms2 and participated in the Case's Ladder Worms2 Roper's section and found that it was nearly impossible to rise to the top even though I was a good player. People used to rampantly cheat on Case's and never report their losses. So if I played 10 games and won 9, 1 person might be honest about his loss and I'd have a 1:1 ratio officially even though I had a 9:1 ratio in reality. I don't know if it's gotten any better lately or if this widespread dishonesty was a Worms2 thing. But I can tell you one thing. The whole experience put a bad taste in my mouth and I'll never use Case's "honor system" ever again.
You're right, I wouldn't steal a car. But if it were possible, I sure as hell would download one!
I'm sure that means a hell of a lot, because, if I remember correctly, PSO is still the only game that is officially supported for online play on the GCN.
I find it sad when you consider that a couple of geeks (ie, Warp Pipe) have done more to bring the GCN online in the past couple of weeks than Nintendo has done during the console's entire life.
don't take up more space with more third rate meaningless crap.
...we have improved as we learned how to do things. We did indeed have issues like you reported, and we still do sometimes today. However, we have added lots of ways for people to report them to get credit. There isn't a perfect system on the net, and ours is focused more on fun than statistically proving you are the absolute best ranked player out there.
If you think about the best rating system in the world, probably the USCF system...You pretty much know right away that you suck and can never be the champion. That's not very fun, so our system is set up around online community and peer groups.
Problems aside, the cool part is that the business started as a hobby back in 1996, and I and the other people who work for Case's are still doing something we love in gaming. I can't shake a stick at that!
Case
P.S. The Worms2 ladder has always been full of interesting characters, to say the least, hehe!
let the lagging out of Socom and other ps2 games get even worse.
You've got game.
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Roses are #FF0000, Violets are #0000FF, find / -name '*base*' |xargs chown -R us && mv zig greatjustice
After finding an opponent, players play and then report their statistics [on the website] "Hey, I had a perfect score....really I swear, would I lie?" That ruins the whole thing.
So long as players can get always by lying, play under different aliases, and/or not be tracked efficiently people will always be generally assholes and not abide by the honor system. At the very bottom, there will always be someone who 'forgets' or was 'just too lazy and THEN forgets' to input their loss/win/draw.