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Baghdad Gamer Discusses Iraq's Videogame Past

Thanks to Salon.com for its article [ad click-thru required] profiling the videogame-playing, Baghdad-based owner of the 'Healing Iraq' weblog, as previously referenced in Slashdot Games articles. The weblog author, Zeyad, explains how he "started playing Sierra adventure games" like Leisure Suit Larry when he was 11 or 12, and "learned a lot about American culture from these games." He goes on to note that the Iraqi secret police had agents "whose jobs were to play and finish these games to find out if there was any mention of Iraq or Saddam", recounting the rumors that "there was a specific code or combo [in Mortal Kombat] that would spawn Saddam Hussein and his bodyguards to finish the opponent." Zeyad also criticizes the realism of some Iraq-based games such as Conflict: Desert Storm, pointing out that "the voice acting was terrible - the Iraqi soldiers talked in an Egyptian accent."

36 comments

  1. He learned all about the US from *what*? by johannesg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, that certainly explains a few things... If your only contact with western civilisation is through Leisure Suit Larry and Mortal Kombat, I understand why they hate it so much.

    1. Re:He learned all about the US from *what*? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      One would think they'd have a better attitude. If someone can rip my spine out, I tend to be a little more polite and non-confrontational.

      And if they're an undead ninja with the ability to teleport behind me, well then I'm down right gracious.

    2. Re:He learned all about the US from *what*? by torpor · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ... and of course the same could be said for Americans whose only contact with Iraqi's is through CNN, Desert Warrior, et al.

      Its actually not a funny observation, in my opinion. If only there were a "naive" tag.

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    3. Re:He learned all about the US from *what*? by torpor · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      I never said Americans hate Iraqi's, only that their opion of them is gleaned from CNN and other fascist tools of the American propaganda machine, such as video games.

      Well, I didn't say the fascist part, but responses like yours prompt me to break out such wonderful vernacular.

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    4. Re:He learned all about the US from *what*? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The original poster specifically said (of Iraqi's toward Americans) "no wonder they hate it so much".

      To which you responded "the same could be said for americans... whatching CNN" and so on.

      But now you're backpeddling.

      Also, while there is an American propoganda machine - it is the government/military's tool in foreign countries (via Voice of America, pamphelets, etc). CNN is not a government owned or held entity. Neither is Fox News, MSNBC, New York Times, New York Post, Chicago Sun, LA Times, Wall Street Journal or any of the rest.

      In fact, FOX News is certainly not. It's owned by a fuckign australian, dude.

      Put your head back in your ass. Your mouth stinks.

      And what fucktard marked this original comment "off topic"? It was in a direct reply ON TOPIC. Stupid fucking cowards can't reply with anything so they just mark down shit they don't agree with (or, most likely, don't comprehend).

    5. Re:He learned all about the US from *what*? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rupert signed on to be an American. You can't be a super villian from Australia.

      But, aside from that you're still infering something he didn't imply. If anything his original post was conciliatory towards Americans. If the Iraqi's can't be blamed for their misconceptions based on their sources, Americans can't be blamed for their misconceptions either. He made no statement with respect to either the frequency, the nature, or the magnitude of those misconceptions. Clearly we all bring alittle something of our own experience with us into the words we read, but you're really bringing a little too much.

    6. Re:He learned all about the US from *what*? by torpor · · Score: 2, Flamebait

      No, listen, you sad human being.

      The original posters *ASSERTION* that Iraqi's hate Americans comes from his observation of Iraqi's through American Media.

      *That* is my point. Iraqi's hating Americans == a meme of the American Propaganda Machine.

      (Not to say Iraq and most Middle East nations don't have a propaganda machine, mind... and I'm sure that more than a few Iraqi's actually do hate America, and Americans, and frankly I think they have good cause to.)

      As for your lame understanding of the structure of American Media, this is from a couple years back:

      Maj. Thomas Collins, U.S. Information Service has confirmed that "psyops" (psychological operations) personnel, soldiers and officers, have worked in the CNN headquarters in Atlanta. The lend/lease exercise was part of an Army program called "Training With Industry." According to Collins, the soldiers and officers, "... worked as regular employees of CNN. Conceivably, they would have worked on stories during the Kosovo war. They helped in the production of news."

      When asked if the introduction of military personnel into a civilian news organization was standard operating procedure, one source said, "That question is above my pay grade ... but I hope so. It's what we do."

      The CNN military personnel were members of the Airmobile Fourth Psychological Operations Group, stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. One of the main tasks of this group of almost 1200 soldiers and officers is to spread 'selected information.' Critics say that means dissemination of propaganda.


      The Pentagon has agents in -every- major American news corporation. It is an operational and key part of the PATRIOT Act, and the various bills which created the Department of Homeland Security, which also has agents in all major media outlets in the US.

      Stupid fucking cowards can't reply with anything so they just mark down shit they don't agree with (or, most likely, don't comprehend).


      Fascist:

      defn. : A reactionary or dictatorial person.

      American Fascism. It exists. It is real. You can observe its effects in 10 minutes of discussion with any American Teenager.

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    7. Re:He learned all about the US from *what*? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just out of curiosity, how do you NOT get modded down as (Score: -1, Moron) ?

    8. Re:He learned all about the US from *what*? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I guess refusing to negotiate with invaders could be seen as "confrontational". If you were the invader.

    9. Re:He learned all about the US from *what*? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok. I'll bite. I'm a big fan of Slashdot Presents Bad Analogy Theater.

      So where you going with this?

  2. Whatever goofball. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the voice acting was terrible - the Iraqi soldiers talked in an Egyptian accent.

    And I watch Anime and Hong Kong cinema for the American accents. We are not a nation of William Shatners, and he's a freaking Canadian, not that this would excuse or explain his cadence.

    He should get some perspective and be glad he's not Russian. They were a super power, and now everyone asks them why they don't sound scottish. That's gotta hurt.

    1. Re:Whatever goofball. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      KHAN!

      .

    2. Re:Whatever goofball. by Golias · · Score: 1
      "the voice acting was terrible - the Iraqi soldiers talked in an Egyptian accent."

      As opposed to real Iraqi soldiers, who speak American English with Farsi or Arabic accents.

      What a dumbass.

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  3. Mortal Kombat code? by Hackie_Chan · · Score: 1

    Agh! I'm a Mortal Kombat-fanatic and I haven't even heard about that Saddam-code that he's talking about. Anybody got a screenshot to share? :-)

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    1. Re:Mortal Kombat code? by Trejkaz · · Score: 0

      The Saddam code is: Down-Down-Up-Up-Right-Left-Right-Left-A-B-Stop. HTH.

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    2. Re:Mortal Kombat code? by WalrusKing · · Score: 1

      Isn't that the Super Contra code for 10 lives?

    3. Re:Mortal Kombat code? by Trejkaz · · Score: 1

      No, that was Right-Left-Down-Up-A-B-Start, baka.

      The code I just posted is a backwards version of the Konami code, which was in a lot of Konami games in what we would now call the dark ages. I was making a gag that Saddam was backwards but you, sir, fail it! (The "Stop" should have been a give-away. Since when was there a stop button?)

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    4. Re:Mortal Kombat code? by AzraelKans · · Score: 1

      Im not sure, but the code he mentions is not from Mortal Kombat is from Mexican Kombat a small game made In Mexico (in My Un to be exact) that went to sale quite a while ago. I would be really surprised if It got that far, but Saddam does appear there and the name looks a like since is a "homage" of MK so I dont know maybe thats what he is talking about.

      Saddam Hussein does not appear in any MK and I have played them all back to back, there are some weird codes here and there but theres not even a hint of Saddam anywhere. Maybe he is confusing him for other character?

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  4. unfair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "the voice acting was terrible - the Iraqi soldiers talked in an Egyptian accent."

    Honestly, though, how many different ways are there to say "a-dobba dobba dobba?"

    1. Re:unfair by Per+Wigren · · Score: 1

      how many different ways are there to say "a-dobba dobba dobba?"

      USUQA M'DIQ

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  5. I learnt US culture by watching US porn.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I learned that all US girls have fake tits.
    I learned that the washing machine repair guy doesn't know anything about repairing things.
    I learnt that Americans can't cope with complex plots.

    1. Re:I learnt US culture by watching US porn.. by haxor.dk · · Score: 1

      I suppose you also think that all American men are never impotent, and thus don't need viagra.

      How about american men often engaging in gang bangs, and high-fiving each other when they do a facial cumshot on a girl?

  6. Girls Gone Wild by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just wait until they get a copy of Girls Gone Wild...

    1. Re:Girls Gone Wild by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A bunch of teenage boys going, "OOooh that's what they look like!"

  7. Lovely by limekiller4 · · Score: 1

    From the original post:
    "Zeyad, explains how he 'started playing Sierra adventure games' like Leisure Suit Larry when he was 11 or 12, and "learned a lot about American culture from these games."

    What? He learned that we're a bunch of seersucker-wearing middle-aged viagra-crazed nitwits who like to spend our extra time fishing for rings in ladies bathrooms, root through ashtrays for hints and buy wine from places that sell condoms too?

    That's just ...great. No wonder why they don't want us there...

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    1. Re:Lovely by GonzoDave · · Score: 3, Funny

      What? He learned that we're a bunch of seersucker-wearing middle-aged viagra-crazed nitwits who like to spend our extra time fishing for rings in ladies bathrooms, root through ashtrays for hints and buy wine from places that sell condoms too? We live in constant fear of murderous cars as well

    2. Re:Lovely by daehrednud · · Score: 1

      Hey, it was Spanish Fly, viagra wasn't out in the market yet.

  8. The Desert Storm footage on CNN... by wheresdrew · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...did look an awful lot like Missle Command.

  9. It's not that we can't, it's that we don't... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    bother with the pretense. It's porn, not Shakespear. Less talking, more fucking. They're not good at talking anyway, that's how they ended up fucking for money. In case you're French, out of focus and bad editing isn't art, and boring stilted banter isn't plot, even if it's about feelings.

  10. Well we stumped them! by odorf · · Score: 1

    How would they have ever guessed "Death Angel" in police quest really reprsented Saddam? And what about Ganandorf, We all know that he was based on Hitler. We've been doing that for years! Silly people will never realize that the only reason we have video games is to pass secret information from one player to another!

  11. Egyptian accent only? by DutchSchultz · · Score: 1

    That game ("Conflict: Desert Storm") is fine by the "Delta Force: Task Force Dagger" standards. There in a level I could hear the afgans to talk in Russian. Ok, there were Russians in the past. But these are the mujahidins - they hate Russians...

  12. Re:Egyptian accent only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >There in a level I could hear the afgans to talk in Russian. Ok, there were Russians in the past. But
    >these are the mujahidins - they hate Russians...

    Don't know about Afghans but eg.: Chechen speak russian among themeselves (and Irish speak english).

  13. When I was in Iraq in 1985.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..I came in contact with arcade games for the first time as there are restrictions here in Germany where these can be placed and who has access to them. Since the late 80s, it's 18+ only..
    Anyhow, there was some park with a pavillon in the center, and there were a lot of arcade machines, all on free play. If I remember right i played Pole Position. My father had to lift me up cause the steering wheel was too high up the cabinet =).
    Too bad the country has been ruined by the dictators in Baghdad and Washington.

  14. What does this tell you? by Klatoo55 · · Score: 1

    I think that people often overlook that we are known by our exports. When I travel to South America, I am offered Coke because I am an American, and that's "what Americans drink". What does our entertainment say about us? Do we really want to be known for Vice City?

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