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NetBSD Packages Collection Releases A New Branch

Posted by timothy on from the like-a-giant-underground-fungus dept.

jschauma writes "On behalf of the pkgsrc team, Alistair Crooks announced today that a new pkgsrc-2004Q1 branch of the NetBSD Packages Collection was created last night, and the freeze on committing to the pkgsrc trunk is now over. This branch, which includes some 4518 actively-maintained and supported packages, introduces a self-hosted pkgsrc infrstructure as part of the ever growing support of even more operating systems as well as a number of other goodies. Please see Alistair's message to the netbsd-announce mailing list for details."

25 comments

  1. frosty piss!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    frosty piss!!??

  2. From the same IP... minutes later. Fuckin' K-Rad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Second Frosty PISS!!

    Must be a slow day. Should I go for a third frosty piss?!

    [[]
    Slashdot requires you to wait 2 minutes between each successful posting of a comment to allow everyone a fair chance at posting a comment.

    It's been 1 minute since you last successfully posted a comment
    [[]
    O.k., now th@tz gunna fsck m3 up>

  3. *sniff* *sniff* by keesh · · Score: -1, Troll

    What's that smell? I detect the unpleasant stench of a rotting corpse being picked apart by maggots.

    (posting anonymously to preserve my precious karma)

  4. I know there is a new BSD release. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I always know when there is a new BSD-related release of something when the Grim Reaper knocks on my door and brings me the software package. The new tombstone-shaped packages are really cool this year.

  5. tired of bsd trolls :-( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I'm beginning to feel that they just keep poasting and poasting "news" about their dead OS just to annoy everyone.

    1. Re:tired of bsd trolls :-( by HitScan · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Slashdot has to post BSD stories once in a while so they can act like a sponge for the retards to ruin and keep them from ruining all the other stories. The comments are useless on any BSD story, due to retard concentration. Allowing Anonymous posts doesn't help anything.

      --
      HitScan
    2. Re:tired of bsd trolls :-( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am writing a story on how extreme the opensource community acts towards others that don't agree with thier ideals. The BSD section is a perfect example of how immature the people in the opensouce movement are and Slashdot's apathy towards them supports my claims.

  6. BSD contribution to open source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    There were so many remote vulnerabilities in it, and the components of BSD (ports actually, not the base system) work so poorly together, and the system itself is so badly designed (you have to spend all your time compiling updates), that it'd be better for everyone if BSD never existed. Now Microsoft may use it in an anti-open-source case study of dismal productivity, compatibility and "wide open" security.

  7. Troll-in-one for the gay Linux fanboy wankers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    All the *BSD is dying posts are contained in this one post to spare the BSD section of the heavy trolling. If I've missed any, please add your troll as a reply and I'll include it in the next Troll-in-one. Keep your flames to yourself -- I already know you have a distorted psychological need to imagine BSD as dying because it only helps to relieve the cognitive dissonance you are currently experiencing with Linux. In reality, though, it only shows a deep-seated jealousy towards BSD, which you'll go to any lengths to deny.
    vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

    I must make it clear that:

    1) *BSD is associated with the Devil (see mascot).
    2) *BSD promotes anti-social behaviour.
    3) *BSD encourages a homosexual lifestyle.
    4) *BSD stands for destruction of the economy.
    5) *BSD attacks the average man in the street.
    6) *BSD allows no critisms of its mission.
    7) *BSD harbours terrorists and other state enemies.
    8) *BSD collects weapons of mass destruction.
    9) *BSD believes in the enprisionment of mankind.
    10) *BSD is dying.
    vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

    The *BSD Wailing Song

    What's left for me to see
    In my ship I sailed so far
    What can the answer be
    Don't know what the questions are.
    And after all I've done
    Still I cannot feel the sun
    Tell me save me
    In the end our lost souls must repent.
    I must know it is for certain
    Can it be the final curtain
    As long as the wind will blow
    I'll be searching high and low.
    Who knows what's really true
    They say the end is so near
    Why are we all so cruel
    We just fill ourselves with fear.
    And heaven and hell will turn
    All that we love shall burn
    Hear me trust me
    In the end our lost sould must repent.
    I must know it is for certain
    Can it be the final curtain
    As long as the wind will blow
    I'll be searching high and low
    Final curtain
    Final curtain


    vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

    • flask of ripe urine
      pressed to bsd lips
      bsd drink up

    vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

    I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you BSD fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a BSD box (a PIII 800 w/512 Megs of RAM) for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder. 20 minutes. At home, on my Pentium Pro 200 running NT 4, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this BSD box, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.

    In addition, during this file transfer, Netscape will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even Emacs Lite is straining to keep up as I type this.

    I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while working on various BSD machines, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a BSD box that has run faster than its Windows counterpart, despite the BSD machines faster chip architecture. My 486/66 with 8 megs of ram runs faster than this 800 mhz machine at times. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that BSD is a "superior" machine.

    BSD addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a BSD over other faster, cheaper, more stable systems.


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    It is common knowledge that *BSD is dying. Almost everyone knows that ever hapless *BSD is mired in an irrecoverable and mortifying tangle of fatal trouble. It is perhaps anybody's guess as to which *BSD is the worst off of an admittedly suffering *BSD community. The numbers continue to decline for *BSD but FreeBSD may be hurting the

  8. I'll summarize the first 6 posts in this thread by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    it's no more

  9. Filthy cowardss stole our FROSTY PISS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Wantss the FROSTY PISS, we do! Must gets uss that preciouss FROSTY PISS!

  10. who was first? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Which one died first Open, Net or Free ?

    1. Re:who was first? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Have you stopped beating your penguin?

    2. Re:who was first? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      openbsd and netbsd never really lived, as far as i am concerned, so...

  11. where to provide information about BSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Truth is a virus, and judging by the posts in this thread, the truth about BSD has finally reached everyone in slashdot community. Now go spread the truth in these BIGGER BSD heretic groups:

    FreeBSD

    NetBSD

    OpenBSD

    1. Re:where to provide information about BSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Yup, the great thing about the high class of BSD zealots there is, they always bite.

  12. Linux and the corporate desktop user. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    'All the *BSD is dying posts are contained in this one post'

    Thankyou for merging these posts into a coherent and well thought out argument for the adoption of Linux in the corporate server and home desktop markets.

    Slashdots reputation and continuing value as a source of relevent information and its unbiased support for all things open source are an inspiration to me. - Mr KnightCap.

  13. Packages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    There are a few important points about any package management system that should be fulfilled.
    1. Packages should have all of their files independent from each other. Administering this type of system is far easier, as there's never any question where a file comes from.
    2. There is never any reason to recompile a package. Symlinks should enable all packages to have their dynamically linked libraries upgradeable without recompiling that package.
    3. There is never any reason to remove a package. Since the files are kept seperate, versioning problems don't exist. If nobody is using a version of a package, it can be removed. Otherwise there's no reason to bother.
    1. Re:Packages by endx7 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Your list is somewhat dependant on whoever wrote the original software. Ports/pkgsrc/etc are pretty much at the mercy of whoever wrote the software in the first place.

    2. Re:Packages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To a very large degree, yes, but look at how many packages use the GNU autoconf setup these days. A few new options to autoconf would fix most of these issues.

      Also, part of maintaining a ``package'' for a package managing distribution is installing it in a uniform manner. I'm just of the opinion that it would be better if that uniform manner used the file system to divide up the files by package. If it were done right, the installation scripts would only need to be written once (which has to be done now).

  14. South Park by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Remember the episode when Kenny was zombified ?
    His dead corpse dropped his arm in front of an old wonman who called it cute.
    I suppose the same thing happend here.
    Dead corpses tend to "branch" bits out.

  15. A clue for the "BSD is dying" trolls. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    From Improving
    Passive Packet Capture: Beyond Device Polling.

    "Linux, a very popular OS used for running network appliances,
    performs very poorly with respect to other OSs used in the same
    test"         (FreeBSD and Win2k).

    "The Linux kernel module is almost as fast as the userspace
    FreeBSD application".

    Percentage of packets captured (in user space), using device polling, at
    80,000 packets per second? Linux 5.6%, FreeBSD 99.9%. Linux manages
    99.5% only using a kernel module.

    SO LINUX MUST GO TO KERNEL SPACE TO ALMOST BE AS FAST AS FREEBSD
    WITHIN USER SPACE!

    Maybe if you BSD is dying trolls stopped crapping on here about BSD
    dying and instead actually learned a language apt for your OS of choice,
    you might actually be able to bring Linux up to "dead status" with the
    BSD's.

    But wait, it gets worse! While trying to capture packets from a
    DoS application, Linux could only manage capture rates of 0.8% in user
    space and 9.7% in kernel space, while FreeBSD managed 74.7% in user
    space!

    "FreeBSD performs much better than Linux"

    "it is obvious that a vanilla FreeBSD systems is much more
    efficient than a vanilla Linux system when used for packet
    capture."

    1. Re:A clue for the "BSD is dying" trolls. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh dear god no, FreeBSD captures packets faster than Linux. Is this is the only thing that you could come up with where FreeBSD beat Linux?

    2. Re:A clue for the "BSD is dying" trolls. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh dear god no, FreeBSD captures packets faster than Linux. Is this is the only thing that you could come up with where FreeBSD beat Linux?

      Is the only thing that I could come up with, that "Linux, the network OS, has such poor high end networking support that BSD is faster even when Linux gets a kernel-mode head start?"

      Networking performance is what Linux and the BSD's are all about. Linux support in that area sucks and mature BSD really shows child-like Linux how to perform. Maybe Linux should have swallowed it's pride and KEPT the BSD TCP/IP stack.

      Maybe Linux will some day be a viable solution beyond shitty little appliances, when people stop competing with each other, re-inventing the wheel baddly, become educated in Computer Science and settle down to some good ideas. Has Linux settled on a VM system yet? Or is it still chopping and changing within "stable" trees?

    3. Re:A clue for the "BSD is dying" trolls. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You clearly are using old data. The new Linux TCP/IP stack implementation has been shown to out-perform the BSD one. It's even rumored that the BSD folks fudged their numbers when they discovered that their pride and joy couldn't quite perform as advertised.