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Martin Michlmayr Re-elected Debian Project Leader

jaybonci@d.o writes "Congratulations to Martin Michlmayr on his re-election to Debian Project Leader (his platform). Another year of service, one that will hopefully see the release of Sarge."

15 comments

  1. I, by His+name+cannot+be+s · · Score: 1, Funny

    I for one, welcome our new (old) Debian Overlords.

    Feh, What can you do?

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    1. Re:I, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Not sure. I can't decide whether making jokes about Debian being out of date is out of date or whether it's actually okay, because they're about as out of date as Debian itself.

  2. Branden by peripatetic_bum · · Score: 4, Interesting

    can someone explain to me why Branden keeps getting failed to be elected? He seems to one of the stronger proponents of Debian and has one of the most important packages.

    Thank you for your replies

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    1. Re:Branden by peeping_Thomist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Branden is a lousy politician. He has no sense of diplomacy, and furthermore rubs a lot of people the wrong way. He should never be the public face of Debian.

      But Branden is an important contributor to the project. Pretty much everyone recognizes that and appreciates it, but that respect and appreciation does not translate into votes. There's a political component to being Debian Project Leader that Branden just doesn't have.

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    2. Re:Branden by ISayWeOnlyToBePolite · · Score: 1

      Branden ROCKS!!!, Martin seems like a nice guy and all that, but not in the slightest does he rock. Have you ever seen a guy that rocks, get elected? /Debian, reading Habermas so you don't have to.

  3. Hopefully? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 3, Funny
    "Congratulations to Martin Michlmayr on his re-election to Debian Project Leader (his platform). Another year of service, one that will hopefully see the release of Sarge."

    Sarge? Hopefully?!

    I been waitin' six years for the release of Sid !

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    1. Re:Hopefully? by swillden · · Score: 3, Informative

      I been waitin' six years for the release of Sid !

      For those who don't know Debian well enough to get the joke, Sid is the name of the "unstable" distribution, where all new stuff goes. Sid will always be the name of unstable and Sid will never be released. Packages that have lived long enough in Sid without any serious bugs filed against them automatically move into "testing", which is currently called Sarge. When Sarge is ready it will be released and become "stable", at which point a new name will be chosen for "testing".

      Sid, however, will always be Sid.

      For completeness, there's one other distribution "experimental", which is where stuff that's too volatile for Sid goes. Since Sid is actively used by thousands as their standard desktop, it has to be fairly stable, despite the name "unstable". The rule for Sid is that only stable software can be put in it, so that any instability is just in the packaging and relationships with other packages. Experimental (which doesn't have a character name) contains software that is truly of questionable stability.

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    2. Re:Hopefully? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      As a Debian user, I've always found having unstable labelled as 'sid' to be confusing. Why not keep the names for actual releases?

      It would run something like this, as things currently stand:

      unstable
      testing
      stable = woody, potato, slink, hamm, ...

      After release, the latest stable would be called 'sarge'.

      Instead, we have these things called 'sarge' and 'sid'. It's not consistent having a 'release name' on something that will not be released. Also, what does 'sarge' actually refer to? Is it testing, or unstable? Why is unstable called both sarge and sid? Why are things such a mess?

      Why not call unstable 'unstable' and advertise that the next release will be called 'sarge', but not actually use the name until the release is made (use testing and unstable instead)? Maybe that is already the policy, but people are just slack in applying it?

    3. Re:Hopefully? by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      Slashdot poll - should "Debian Experimental be named Dexter?" (After Dexter's Lab cartoon ;-)

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    4. Re:Hopefully? by chriskenrick · · Score: 1

      sid is the only "perpetual" name, ie sid will always refer to unstable (or still in development, even though it also fits in the toy story theme).

      The remaining ones (including sarge) are release names. sarge is currently under development and testing, but will be released sometime or another

      I actually think the naming system is good, and flexible. You can track whatever the most current stable release is, or a particular release, or even testing or unstable if you want. It's probably even easier to follow than the Windows naming system, since the code names for Windows releases don't seem to get used as much after that release.

    5. Re:Hopefully? by alexpage · · Score: 1

      No, that'd break the Toy Story naming scheme :)