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Desktop FreeBSD Part 3: Adding Software

An anonymous reader writes " Desktop FreeBSD Part 3: Adding Software called Open For Business, covers the installation of third party applications onto FreeBSD."

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  1. Anybody? by pediddle · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It's been 6 hours since this was posted and there are no comments!

    BSD may not be dead, but it's sure as hell that nobody cares on slashdot.

    1. Re:Anybody? by Brandybuck · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Posted by Hemos on Monday June 14, @04:38AM

      Maybe it's because everyone is asleep!

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      Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
    2. Re:Anybody? by n0dez · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or maybe it's because everyone is working silently the same way as FreeBSD servers; doing their jobs, not giving problems.

    3. Re:Anybody? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There isn't a whole lot to comment about the whole install process which usually consists of nothing more than:

      portinstall

      It just works.

    4. Re:Anybody? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every heard of a little place called Europe? When it's 4am on your side of the pond, it's noon where I live.

  2. no subject by n0dez · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In this article, Ed Hurst talks about installing software from the ports and using joe.
    However, he doesn't talk about portinstall, a tool that makes installing software from the ports much easier.

    1. Re:no subject by bplipschitz · · Score: 1

      In this article, Ed Hurst talks about installing software from the ports and using joe.
      However, he doesn't talk about portinstall, a tool that makes installing software from the ports much easier.


      Port installation couldn't be much easier the way it already *is*. portupgrade makes managing those ports *much* easier across upgrades, though.

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  3. Re:The lack of comments is proof.... by Charles+Dart · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ahem... I have *five* friends, thank you very much.

  4. Re:*BSD is dying by n0dez · · Score: 1, Informative

    There are only 2 true facts:
    1. Your post is a troll.
    2. You're an anonymous coward.

  5. The Facts Are In -- No Comments == Proof! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet another sickening blow has struck what's left of the *BSD community, as a soon-to-be-released report by the independent Commision for Technology Management (CTM) after a year-long study has concluded: *BSD is already dead. Here are some of the commission's findings:

    Fact: the *BSDs have balkanized yet again. There are now no less than twelve separate, competing *BSD projects, each of which has introduced fundamental incompatibilities with the other *BSDs, and frequently with Unix standards. Average number of developers in each project: fewer than five. Average number of users per project: there are no definitive numbers, but reports show that all projects are on the decline.

    Fact: X.org will not include support *BSD. The newly formed group believes that the *BSDs have strayed too far from Unix standards and have become too difficult to support along with Linux and Solaris x86. "It's too much trouble," said one anonymous developer. "If they want to make their own standards, let them doing the porting for us."

    Fact: DragonflyBSD, yet another offshoot of the beleaguered FreeBSD "project", is already collapsing under the weight of internal power struggles and in-fighting. "They haven't done a single decent release," notes Mark Baron, an industry watcher and columnist. "Their mailing lists read like an online version of a Jerry Springer episode, complete with food fights, swearing, name-calling, and chair-throwing." Netcraft reports that DragonflyBSD is run on exactly 0% of internet servers.

    Fact: There are almost no FreeBSD developers left, and its use, according to Netcraft, is down to a sadly crippled .005% of internet servers. A recent attempt at a face-to-face summit in Boulder, Colorado culminated in an out-and-out fistfight between core developers, reportedly over code commenting formats (tabs vs. spaces). Hotel security guards broke up the melee and banned the participants from the hotel. Two of the developers were hospitalized, and one continues to have his jaw wired shut.

    Fact: NetBSD, which claims to focus on portability (whatever that is supposed to mean), is slow, and cannot take advantage of multiple CPUs. "That about drove the last nail in the coffin for BSD use here," said Michael Curry, CTO of Amazon.com. "We took our NetBSD boxes out to the backyard and shot them in the head. We're much happier running Linux."

    Fact: *BSD has no support from the media. Number of Linux magazines available at bookstores: 5 (Linux Journal, Linux World, Linux Developer, Linux Format, Linux User). Number of available *BSD magazines: 0. Current count of Linux-oriented technical books: 1071. Current count of *BSD books: 6.

    Fact: Many user-level applications will no longer work under *BSD, and no one is working to change this. The GIMP, a Photoshop-like application, has not worked at all under *BSD since version 1.1 (sorry, too much trouble for such a small base, developers have said). OpenOffice, a Microsoft Office clone, has never worked under *BSD and never will. ("Why would we bother?" said developer Steven Andrews, an OpenOffice team lead.)

    Fact: servers running OpenBSD, which claims to focus on security, are frequently compromised. According to Jim Markham, editor of the online security forum SecurityWatch, the few OpenBSD servers that exist on the internet have become a joke among the hacker community. "They make a game out of it," he says. "(OpenBSD leader) Theo [de Raadt] will scramble to make a new patch to fix one problem, and they've already compromised a bunch of boxes with a different exploit."

    With these incontroverible facts staring (what's left of) the *BSD community in the face, they can only draw one conclusion: *BSD is already dead.

    1. Re:The Facts Are In -- No Comments == Proof! by sirket · · Score: 0, Troll

      Fact: Many user-level applications will no longer work under *BSD, and no one is working to change this. The GIMP, a Photoshop-like application, has not worked at all under *BSD since version 1.1 (sorry, too much trouble for such a small base, developers have said). OpenOffice, a Microsoft Office clone, has never worked under *BSD and never will. ("Why would we bother?" said developer Steven Andrews, an OpenOffice team lead.)

      I had a feeling the program that I use for graphics every day wasn't really the GIMP :( Oh sure it _claimed_ to be GIMP 2 but I knew it wasn't. I use to use the GIMP on Linux and I knew how it was supposed to work. It was supposed to crash every half hour and be slow as hell. This program that I am on running on my FreeBSD 5.2 desktop does not crash and is not slow :( Some day I hope the FreeBSD folks are able to break FreeBSD enough so that it runs the GIMP just like Linux.

      The same goes for OpenOffice. I'm not sure what program is really running on my FreeBSD box but it is too fast and stable to be OpenOffice. I base this on hours of experience fight^H^H^H^H^Hworking with OpenOffice on Linux.

      -sirket

    2. Re:The Facts Are In -- No Comments == Proof! by Ottoman+II · · Score: 1

      You took your time! I bet you were running non *BSD OS so you were, compiling / recovering from crash.

      If you had chosen *BSD as your desktop OS you would be able post this tripe as the first comment to this article.

      Ottoman II
      Deamon's Advocate.

    3. Re:The Facts Are In -- No Comments == Proof! by sigaar · · Score: 1
      I use to use the GIMP on Linux and I knew how it was supposed to work. It was supposed to crash every half hour and be slow as hell.
      Dunno what linux you were using. On my PC at work (SUSE) OpenOffice has been open with a couple of large spreadsheets (1-3mb with only numbers - no graphics) open, for more than two months. I don't leave Gimp open because I don't use it that much, but it has never (since v0.99) crashed on me. NEVER!
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      sigaar
  6. No Posts--We can already install software by Protoslo · · Score: 1

    I would speculate that this thread has so few posts not because BSD is dying, but because any BSD user dedicated enough to browse slashdot and find this "article" hidden in the BSD section has probably already figured out how to install software (even linux binaries, if you're in to that sort of thing ;p).

    Whereas adherents of certain [cough] linux distribtions have started flame threads longer than this one over the comparative merits of their various package systems, the BSD users have little to say on this topic, because the current system works just fine (not to mention the treatment of this topic in the FreeBSD Handbook is more informative than the article).

  7. Re:The lack of comments is proof.... by devphaeton · · Score: 1

    [b] Ahem... I have *five* friends, thank you very much.[/b]

    I've got you beat! I have 4 friends *and* a weekend girlfriend! Ha! And, one of those 4 friends i met IRL once! :oP

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  8. Why did *BSD fail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    So why now? Why did *BSD fail? Once you get past the fact that *BSD is fragmented between a myriad of incompatible kernels, there is the historical record of failure and of failed operating systems. *BSD experienced moderate success about 15 years ago in academic circles. Since then it has been in steady decline. We all know *BSD keeps losing market share but why? Is it the problematic personalities of many of the key players? Or is it larger than their troubled personae?

    The record is clear on one thing: no operating system has ever come back from the grave. Efforts to resuscitate *BSD are one step away from spiritualists wishing to communicate with the dead. As the situation grows more desperate for the adherents of this doomed OS, the sorrow takes hold. An unremitting gloom hangs like a death shroud over a once hopeful *BSD community. The hope is gone; a mournful nostalgia has settled in. Now is the end time for *BSD.