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Digital Subscriptions to Paper Gaming Magazines - Worth It?

Thanks to GamersWithJobs for its review of digital subscriptions to notable videogame magazines such as EGM or CGW, running down the advantages ("No need to store it at home and you really can't lose it because you can download the magazine as necessary. Unless your wife manages to trash the entire Internet, digital magazines are pretty hard to throw away"), and disadvantages ("No CD/DVD that comes in many magazines these days... Some users will find the need to zoom and scroll as they read a hassle") of the Zinio Reader based digital formats, although for the Baghdad-based reviewer of these digital subscriptions, "getting content otherwise not available in Iraq is a big plus."

52 comments

  1. I'd do it by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sadly, I'm not into games enough anymore to want to subscribe to a gaming site. However, I am ready for the 'digital magazine' idea. I'd prefer to download a huge PDF or something, but I'd settle for site access I guess.

    There was a time I resented the idea of not having a physical copy.. but I've moved like 3 times in the last 2 years. It don't take many of those to despise having to update subscriptions. I am still warming up to the idea of paying for news, though. It still seems funny. In that case, I demand video downloads etc.

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    1. Re:I'd do it by daveashcroft · · Score: 0

      I totally agree. Its *nice* to have a paper copy of something to read, but the benefits of having a fully searchable document, which takes up NO physical space outweigh the negatives for me.

      And i guess we can placate our environmentaly conscious friends by helping them save the trees.

    2. Re:I'd do it by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "I totally agree. Its *nice* to have a paper copy of something to read, but the benefits of having a fully searchable document, which takes up NO physical space outweigh the negatives for me."

      Heh I have to admit, tho, it makes setting up a computer in the bathroom a lot more tempting.

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      "Derp de derp."
  2. not worth it by nes11 · · Score: 3, Funny

    it's really difficult to carry an electronic copy into the bathroom with you as you read. and even if you're fortunate enough to have a tablet, it's a huge pain to have to scroll while you're conducting 'other' business. :-D

    1. Re:not worth it by aflat362 · · Score: 1
      it's a huge pain to have to scroll while you're conducting 'other' business.

      Why would your hands be unavailable? What kind of other business are you talking about?

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    2. Re:not worth it by nes11 · · Score: 1

      lol, nothing like the latest Half Life 2 screenshots to get a guy going.

    3. Re:not worth it by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1
      I think he's saying one hand would hold the tablet while the other is unavailable for scrolling.

      Read into it what you will, but I assumed he meant (cough)wiping(cough)...

    4. Re:not worth it by Creepy · · Score: 1

      and since I read (in the can) that 70% of Americans do most of their reading in the can, this is probably a bigger issue than they realize.

      Maybe it'll work in France...

    5. Re:not worth it by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      You don't need more hands for a tablet than for a book, so there.

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      Justice is the sheep getting arrested while an impartial judge declares the vote void.
    6. Re:not worth it by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1
      I can read a book with one hand. Not my preference, but it does work and it really isn't that hard to do. You hold the book with the base of its spine in the palm of your hand (imagine Hamlet holding Yorick's skull) and use your thumb to flip pages.

      So, you were saying?

  3. good ol' paper mags for me by Corporal+Tunnel · · Score: 1

    I can read them while on the toilet. And no I don't have a laptop!

  4. Good Idea by netfool · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The article forgot a couple PROs:
    - Your 3 year old won't bring it behind the couch/secret-fortress-of-magazine-destruction-and- general-place-for-hiding-your-stuff and tear your magazine up when he's alone in the living room.
    - Your 3 year old won't spill his milk on the article about Half-Life 2 and have it drench every page under it (though, I guess he could spill milk on the computer and cause it to explode somehow, but that hasn't happened yet so I'll mark this a PRO).

    It's a great idea, I'm all for it. The use of searchable text is invaluable to me, I tend to go through magazines backwards for some odd reason and never look at the table of contents except as a last resort.

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    Left 4 Dead Gaming Group - http://www.l4dgg.com
    1. Re:Good Idea by yohan1701 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I tend to go through magazines backwards for some odd reason

      Are you left handed ? I am and its easier to flip through a magazine backwards with your left hand.

    2. Re:Good Idea by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you should keep things out of reach of your 3 year old? ;->

    3. Re:Good Idea by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      Huh? What 3 year old?

      I don't have a 3 year old.

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    4. Re:Good Idea by N0decam · · Score: 0

      You can only attach so much stuff to your ceiling before the 3 year old will find a ladder to get at it...

      (In other words - easier said than done - and mine's only 16 months.)

    5. Re:Good Idea by netfool · · Score: 1

      lol, so ture. *sigh*

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      Left 4 Dead Gaming Group - http://www.l4dgg.com
    6. Re:Good Idea by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      Ladder? Mine just takes the house apart till he get what he wants. ;->

    7. Re:Good Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I heard a rumor that people on occasion have a lack of judgement and procreate thus creating offspring. The positives of this are beyond me considering the loss of income and time that this offspring creates.

  5. Paper by stereo_Barryo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Paper is easier on the eyes over a period of time ( higher res than screens ) and can be held in a more comfortable position for a long time. Score one for old-tech!

    1. Re:Paper by netfool · · Score: 1
      I don't agree about the comfortable position.

      Holding anything other than a mouse in my right hand causes my entire right arm to painfully curl up to my shoulder and my left arm begins to have severe tremors.
      It makes reading a magazine extremely difficult since the magazine is constantly slapping me across my face.

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      Left 4 Dead Gaming Group - http://www.l4dgg.com
    2. Re:Paper by AdamPiotrZochowski · · Score: 1


      ebooks are easier to search
      ebooks are easier to cut / copy / paste
      ebooks are easier to give to friends

      score one for ebooks

      ofcourse, by ebook I mean something friendly, like ascii, not the ugly and
      bad pdf/rtf/doc/lit or the horrendously bad zno

      --
      /apz, "She liked him; he was a man of many qualities, even if most of them were bad."

  6. Disadvantages . . . by Dausha · · Score: 2, Insightful

    * Can't grab a copy and go stink-up the bathroom, unless you're on a laptop and have wireless. Even then, ew. There are some places laptops shouldn't be.

    * What happens when their server goes down or they decide to change business models?

    This is true of any online rag, not just gaming.

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    1. Re:Disadvantages . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't grab a copy and go stink-up the bathroom...

      I've never understood the whole reading in the bathroom thing. If you're going to take a dump, just do it and get it over with, turn on the fan or light a match, and then go sit in a comfortable chair and read the magazine. What's the deal with taking a crap, then sitting on the toilet reading while you smell your own crap floating around the bowl and meanwhile the stuff you haven't wiped off dries up on your ass?!? Jesus H. Christmas! What's next? A one-handed video game at the urinal so you can play for five minutes while your dick gets some airtime?

    2. Re:Disadvantages . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The 'deal' is that it's a learned behavior that comes from fathers and husbands seeking refuge in the one place so forbidding that even a nagging wife/mother-in-law won't bardge in to. (The garage being the close second, but that's generally only an option when there's loud work that can be used to scare them off should they come calling, trying to call your bluff)

      Which is why I've considered simply installing a 'reading room', accessible through the bathroom. Shotgun the dump, clean up, and then relax with the 10 minutes of peace and quiet the stench provides -- without having the sanitary concerns.

    3. Re:Disadvantages . . . by AdamPiotrZochowski · · Score: 1


      1. you dont need wireless, ever, just a 50m of nice blue cat5
      2. you dont need laptop, pdas are in game as well (all hail pdb/rb/prc)
      3. why is washroom a bad place for a pda? get one that is water resistant

      although I do agree, a site that requires for you to be online to read
      the material is bad.

      --
      /apz, There's a lot to be said for not saying a lot.

  7. On the one hand... by Otter · · Score: 1
    ...when they say GamersWithJobs, they really mean jobs!

    On the other, you'd think that someone stationed in Baghdad might be looking for different news from home than this or this.

  8. Married? by justkarl · · Score: 3, Funny

    Unless your wife manages to trash the entire Internet, digital magazines are pretty hard to throw away

    Problem: Wife throws away game magazines.

    Solution: Don't get married.

    C'mon people, lets prioritize.

    1. Re:Married? by SoCalChris · · Score: 1

      Or don't marry a woman who will throw your stuff away without at least asking first.

    2. Re:Married? by Creepy · · Score: 0

      dammit, why didn't you tell me earlier! I got hitched 3 years ago already...

      maybe I'd even still be having sex...

  9. Why? by mutewinter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I like the idea, but only if I'm getting a digital *and* print copy. The truth is, I find very little in print magazines that is better content-wise then the internet.

    website pros
    -updated hourly/daily
    -download demos
    -pictures from the games + movies
    -multiple websites offer reviews making it easier to spot out reviewer biases
    And of course, its free! Why the hell would I want to read a magazine? One reason only, portability. I can lay down on the sofa or sit in a vehicle and read it. I can apply the same to newspapers or other print periodicles. Books have the whole eye-strain issue due to their length. Digital paper is going to change everything ;)

  10. Paper is still cheaper by superultra · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I somehow received a free Zinio subscription to EGM, and as far as digital reading software goes it's quite well designed. It's intuitive, streamlined, clean, and clear. You can tell Zinio has attempted to replicate the reading process digitally with its turning pages and fold out ads. I was impressed.

    That said, when a subscription to the Zinio/digital EGM costs $19.99 and you can easily find a four year paper subscription for under $5, why bother with the hassle? If I subscribe to the magazine, why can't I pay a few dollars more and get access to the digital version as well?

    I remember reading an interview with the suits at NetFlicks in Wired a year or two ago. They said it was still cheaper, and practically faster, to snail-mail data on CDs to someone than to provide it over the net. Zinio's pricing proves this hasn't changed.

    I suppose the only advantage to Zinio is not having magazines pile up somewhere. Of course, I have yet to find a game magazine that's worth keeping anyway. They're so filled with hyperbolic previews, barely edited junior high level writing, and gratituous screenshots that they're not worth the hard drive space to save them on.

    1. Re:Paper is still cheaper by AdamPiotrZochowski · · Score: 1


      Zinio reader is crap

      1) you have to register
      2) scrolling an article with mouse reduces resolution
      scrolling an article with keyboard causes choppiness
      3) magazine is reproduced with advertisements, if you
      are saving the printing costs, and delivery costs
      why not save some more on the bandwidth/scanning
      of the advertisements.. Most funny is the time spent
      on making sure that all the postcard based inserts
      also are flipping on the pages
      4) no way of reformatting pages (why oh why do I get three
      columns of text and have to keep scrolling up and
      down on the page when reading each column)
      5) no way of cut/copy/paste to send an interesting quote
      price, tidbit, or, in case of such mags like the MS SQL
      magazine, the source code...
      6) the page scrollbar is always same size, 100pixels or so
      this means that even when opening zinio at 1600x1200
      you cannot easily scroll between pages as you need to
      be pixels accurate.. And no, its not like the space
      not used for the scroller has another purpose, its
      just blank
      7) no way to disable images
      8) no way of forcing own fonts
      9) no way of forcing own colors
      a) lack of sub pixel antialising for laptops/lcds
      and in future also means lack of support for plasma/oled
      b) does not allow for text to be formatted left and right
      such as the nice "The Boustrophedon Text Reader" found
      at traevoli.com/boust/

      overall zinio is trying to be pdf, but fails even at that,
      but atleast enjoy the nice animation of that postcard insert
      as you flip it between the pages you are trying to read!!!

      --
      /apz, If you can't learn to do it well, learn to enjoy doing it badly.

  11. Should be free by Mean_Nishka · · Score: 0

    Considering that the price for a magazine/newspaper is generally used to recoup the costs of production and distribution, these magazines would be better advised to offer the digital versions for free. They can increase their circulation which in turn could increase their revenues.

  12. Paper's not dead... yet... by h0mer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I see no incentive to subscribe to something that's being converted from print to digital media. I'd rather subscribe to a website, like IGN. Say what you will about their reviews, but they always have up-to-date news, plenty of pictures and video of the newest games, and there's some actual original content lurking in their Insider section. Plus, for $5.95 a month, it's exactly the same price as that month's EGM or what have you.

    Now on the other hand, print trumps digital in a couple areas. For example, coverage from E3. Sure, all the websites have their coverage up as it's happening, but there's soooo much content! I like to buy the EGM or other mag after E3 and be able to leaf through it. When I find something that looks interesting, I can find further details on the web.

    Also, it's frustrating when you find a nice site that has infrequent updates. There is a 'zine called Polygon, and while they may not have the most current reviews and previews, their layout and writing style is 'A' material.

    Ziff-Davis has the right idea with their website, 1UP. If you check a review for a game, they'll give you the 1Up review, the EGM Review Crew ratings, and possibly the review from Official PS2 or Xbox magazine.

    I like gaming sites but print still has intangibles that cannot be replicated on the computer.

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    I'm on top of my game like I'm standin' on Xbox.
  13. what wife? by halohell · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Unless your wife manages to trash the entire Internet, digital magazines are pretty hard to throw away

    I'm not married yet and I am a female pc tech/gamer you insensitive clod.

    Comic Book Guy: Worst Cosmic Wars ever! I will only see it three more times. Today.

    1. Re:what wife? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> Unless your wife manages to trash the entire Internet, digital magazines are pretty hard to throw away

      > I'm not married yet and I am a female pc tech/gamer you insensitive clod.


      Don't be such a bigot. Women should be allowed to have wives, too.

  14. 4 year subscription for $5? by jbellis · · Score: 1

    the guy whose auction you linked has a couple dozen magazine subscriptions for sale, all 2-4 year, all under $10. I don't get it. What's the catch?

    1. Re:4 year subscription for $5? by superultra · · Score: 1

      Not sure. I've ordered at least 10 magazines from various ebay auctions, and all have gone through within a month to two months. Didn't pay more than $10 for any of them, many major magazines (Harper's, Atlantic). That doesn't answer your question, I know, but it seems somehow legit.

  15. Paying for what deserves to be free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For all those with access to their computer (or a Tablet PC), they have access to the internet as well (wireless for portable devices).

    So in that case, why would someone pay for a non-versatile (i.e. static) version of printed media, when a dynamic and interactive version of the media can be found on gaming sites such as GameSpy, GameSpot, or IGN (or whatever your favorite site is)?

    It just makes no sense for us to pay for something that we could get for free!

  16. Here's a thought: by Thedalek · · Score: 0

    How about digital archives of long-past magazines? A full run of Computer Gaming World for instance, or archives of Nintendo Power by year?

    I'm sure I'm not the only one who would pay for such a product. Of course, for virtually any product, there are probably at least 10,000 people willing to pay any price.

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  17. I tried... by tprime · · Score: 1

    Well, I signed up for the digital versions of a couple of magazines because of many of the reasons listed above. However, I was turned off because Zinio doesn't offer a client for ANY handheld (PPC or Palm). I have a Sony NX70 and would love to be able to read the magazine on that beautiful display. PDFs and Docs work, so why not this type. While I think it is an idea whose time has come, I still think that it needs to come a little further.

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  18. Press Deadlines... by GrnArmadillo · · Score: 1

    Back when I subscribed to EGM (in the days when IGN was free) I found that 75% of the content was stuff that I'd known about for months (take E3 screenshots for instance, which would usually show up 2-3 issues after the show happened). The only times something would be new is if the magazine extracted an exclusivity clause in exchange for a cover story or whatnot (essentially publicity for the game). This news article didn't specify what the lead time for the digital magazine was, but I'll venture a guess that if they need to make a layout and get everything in final, ready to send to the printers format there's going to be a decent lag. If they don't want the electronic form coming out a full month before the print version gets to their loyal, directly paying, print subscribers, the publishers might be enforcing a longer delay. Somehow I think that I'd rather spend my gaming info buck on a website with a better lead time....

  19. Great applications by wan-fu · · Score: 1

    More magazines should do this and go with paperless alternatives. I'd definitely subscribe to adult magazines that do this so that I can get the magazines online... wait... nevermind.

  20. No Linux reader/poor customer service/ads by grnchile · · Score: 1
    I used Zinio for a year or so, but gave it up for three reasons:
    1. No Linux client available. When I asked they said that they had "no plans" to support one. I didn't need this potentially restricting my choice of OS.
    2. Annoying customer service. For example, once I'd switched over to digital, I was not able to switch back. Zinio provided a page for this but it was, as far as I could tell after repeated attempts, totally inoperable. I eventually cancelled the subscription and started up a separate paper-based one. Grr...
    3. Page turning through card inserts and other ads with the client got very annoying after a while. It was like paying for popups.
    1. Re:No Linux reader/poor customer service/ads by Buran · · Score: 1

      I don't know why these kinds of sites force you to use Zinio. PDF is a lot more cross-platform (Palms, Linux, Mac, Windows, the kitchen sink), is searchable, is printable (and the results look just like a printed article, which is the point) and is far more standardized and used by many more applications. And it's been around for longer so more people are used to working with them.

      I'm a science type and I use PDFs practically every day and they're great. Why are these people trying to reinvent the wheel?

    2. Re:No Linux reader/poor customer service/ads by grnchile · · Score: 1

      As far as I can tell, the main purpose for using Zinio is digital rights management. The rest is just pocket fluff.

    3. Re:No Linux reader/poor customer service/ads by Buran · · Score: 1

      PDF has security options. And it's still readable by all those different platforms and readers.

  21. Incidentally... by one4nine4two · · Score: 1

    IGN is offering a free subscription to EGM when you subscribe to their Insider member service thing. So, uh, yeah, why would anyone subscribe to EGM instead of IGN?

    Well, just ignorance I guess. Or lack of internet access.

  22. I'm afraid not.... by Geckoman · · Score: 1
    The #1 drawback to online magazine subscriptions is Commode Compatibility. Yeah, I've got a wireless network, so I could take my laptop and either hold it on my lap (Eeewww!) or setup a table, but those don't particularly appeal. The other alternative would be to print out articles to read, but that could take a lot of paper, and when time is of the essence I really don't want to wait on a printer.

    I guess I could get an iLoo if they were for real, but I don't think my wife would think one of those parked in the backyard was be a big improvement over a stack of month-old magazines on the back of the toilet.

    I've probably shared quite enough now....

  23. MOD PARENT UP!! by sindarin2001 · · Score: 1

    Where are mod points when you need them.

  24. Tahya al-Moqawama al-Iraqiya! by Moqawama · · Score: 1

    Tahya al-Moqawama al-Iraqiya!
    Tahya al-Moqawama al-Iraqiya!

    Death to Americans! Every American pig in our country will soon be dealt with like the first four in al-Fallujah! Our Resistance and our Mujaheddin will slaughter every one of you.

    And 11 September will be brought to your cities once again.

    Tahya al-Moqawama al-Iraqiya!
    Tahya al-Moqawama al-Iraqiya!

    DEATH TO THE AMERICAN PIGS!