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OpenBSD AMD64 SMP in testing
agent dero writes "Naysayers beware, at the recent Calgary OpenBSD Hackathon, there has been some major improvements in OpenBSD's SMP support which was recently merged with -current. According to this recent article at undeadly.org the code is ready for testing, but the OpenBSD team could really use some permanent AMD64 SMP hardware for testing. Notable achievments include a kernel compile in around 80 seconds."
Don't worry, it soon will be. A quad opteron will generate enough heat to permanently kill any operating system.
It's dead? What will happen when Joe 6.pkg uses Linux and all of us geeks need a new 'underdog' OS to use?
Once Linux gains (some) popularity, the geeks will most likely move on to HURD, OpenBeOS, and *BSD.
http://eth0.is-a-geek.org/
Imagine a distributed kernel compile with distcc. Or perhaps a beowulf cluster compile? Or is that only a Linux thing?
"Notable achievments include a kernel compile in around 80 seconds."
Hope that such compile times on the developers' systems would result in kernels that wouldn't need a recompilation/replacement for years on systems in production
Good news, everyone!
Turns out that *BSD is stronger than ever!
According to an Inernetnews article, Netcraft has confirmed that *BSD has "dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
There has been a steady increase in *BSD developers over the past decade.
You can read more about FreeBSD here
If you would like to try out a BSD, you can download: FreeBSD, OpenBSD, or NetBSD
Enjoy!
No, no, no. *BSD isn't dead, it's just dying -- it's official, Netcraft has been confirming it for about ten years. And PC Week has already told us that Apple is dead -- they're closely tied because Apple uses a BSD user space on top of a Mach kernel.
Posted on Mozilla on FreeBSD 5.2--a dead browser on a dead OS. Dead on.
You forgot:
:)
DragonflyBSD ekkoBSD PicoBSD
Enjoy
BSD - Proudly dying since 1978.
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Of those, only DragonFly is positioned to become one of the major BSDs, it is to FreeBSD as OpenBSD was to NetBSD.
It a Gnu acronym: BSD == BSD's still dying.
andrey
The way I see it there are still going to be only three major BSDs though:
FreeBSD, the way I see it at least, will eventually be an ix86/amd64 only system with everything Linux does in it as well. Definately good for cheapservers right now, headed more for the desktops and laptops.
DragonFlyBSD, as ever as I see it, takes the servers. The direction they are heading in is likely to be some damned good SMP, something that would be great for a server.
OpenBSD, still how I see it, will continue expanding into the trenches of ISP warfare. They're solid and perform well, they are soon going to be able to completely replace a Cisco and they are devoted to making the system as secure as possible.
Now, what of NetBSD you say? I say that they are slowly loosing appeal, many of their supporters call Net equally as secure as Open, but it's not. The system runs on damned near everything, but why? Who is running a Dreamcast or Atari? Any significant platforms supported by Net can be ported to Open. I think that Net will eventually die out, gloomy as it is, the goal of being on every platform is hardly a thing to unite a project in my mind. Though, as I've said a few times as a chant against flamming, that is just my opinion.
I'm sick of following my dreams - I'm just going to ask them where they're going and hook up with them later.
There aren't many people in any community who can claim to be as dedicated and talented at Matt Dillon or Theo de Raadt, and understaffing is a problem that I know the ekkoBSD and MirOS teams would like to solve.
That opinion isn't uncommon, but there are a notable number of people who appreciate NetBSD because of their attention to architectural and technical detail. I think NetBSD will last for a long time to come. As you disclaimed, this is all IMHO
plan9% ls -l 9pccpu
--rwxrwxr-x M 106460 andrey andrey 1554980 Jun 27 13:23 9pccpu
1554980 bytes
eee, I remember back in the days when it was less than that
--rwxrwxr-x M 9 sys sys 1485859 Feb 17 20:23 9pccpu
8s to compile, 15s to boot
if only I was allowed to use it to make weapons of mass destruction I could rule the world !!
There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
Geeks were never interested in linux to begin with, wannabe losers use linux. Geeks have always preferred BSD.
The problem is OpenBSD has everything NetBSD has, plus tons more, and the only thing it doesn't have is obscure ports nobody uses like acorn. The only people I know that use NetBSD do it because they got their feelings hurt by someone in the OpenBSD community telling them to read the docs, and went crying to NetBSD cause its the next closest thing to OpenBSD.
In contrast to OpenBSD, NetBSD has been the most reliable open-source OS I've used, and is the only one that runs on every single one of my systems (which are all under-5-year-old Intel and AMD PCs -- nothing exotic) without any major problems. Linux is a close second, and FreeBSD a distant third.
Based on the benchmark results here, I'm not surprised my OpenBSD experience was as bad as it was.