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VMware Alternative Now Available On FreeBSD

An anonymous reader writes "Serenity Systems International has announced a public beta (costing 50 USD) of 'Serenity Virtual Station' running for the first time on FreeBSD. While existing VMware owners are able to run the version 2 or 3 under Linux binary compatibility and the ports of the Linux kernel modules to FreeBSD 4.x and 5.x respectively, there is no working port of the currently available VMware 4 kernel module; this may provide an alternative to those wishing to purchase a VM today." Here is the full announcement, including a link to the online store.

41 comments

  1. Free as in Beer? by JabberWokky · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Ignoring the BSD aspect, is there a Free as in Beer system to run Win98 on a *nix style OS? Similar to VMWare?

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    1. Re:Free as in Beer? by Goyuix · · Score: 3, Informative

      Bochs is known to run Win95, I would imagine it would run other Windows flavors as well, perhaps with varying degrees of success.

    2. Re:Free as in Beer? by dan_bethe · · Score: 4, Informative

      Look up qemu.

    3. Re:Free as in Beer? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      bochs however is a full emulator rather than just a vm layer.

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    4. Re:Free as in Beer? by Goyuix · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, as the author was asking for a free as in beer way of running a windows environment on *nix systems, bochs satisfies his request. Particularly if he is trying to run wincode on a SPARC or PPC chip.

      However, in an attempt to feed the Troll, there is a project called plex86 which attempts to virtualize the hardware, as well as a forked version that is much faster and lighter but only designed to run linux variants. Obligatory links:

    5. Re:Free as in Beer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes i was recalling that there was such a project out there, just didn't remember plex's name.. thanks.

    6. Re:Free as in Beer? by dosius · · Score: 0, Redundant

      QEMU?

      Moll.

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    7. Re:Free as in Beer? by RevAaron · · Score: 4, Informative

      Bochs will run a bunch of Windows releases, as well as Linux/x86 and other OSes. But for the most part, it isn't really worth using it- it is slow. As hell. Or, as we say in Minnesota, slow as molasses in January. It's not bad to use Bochs for running old DOS apps- but then again, most people had a computer that was 4-33 MHz or so in the DOS days, so Bochs keeps up well there. But Windows or Linux... Painful.

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    8. Re:Free as in Beer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
      In order for us to understand the big picture,
      we have to realize one simple fundamental fact:
      FreeBSD is dying

      Come to terms with these facts, and you're home free.

    9. Re:Free as in Beer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool. This seems to be the same Fabrice Bellard as the author of LZEXE (remember, anyone?).

  2. Slashdotting from the BSD section?!? by pschmied · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow, this must be a first. Their website appears to be down and this was linked from the BSD section.

    BSD trolls can put that in their respective pipes and smoke it.

    -Peter

    P.S. Did anyone download this? Does it work? Is it even remotely as good as VMWare?

    1. Re:Slashdotting from the BSD section?!? by Tezkah · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought this was a troll on *BSD, seeing how the webside was /.'d from the *BSD section...

      ...but it turns out that they're running Linux!

    2. Re:Slashdotting from the BSD section?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...In a virtual machine running on BSD!

    3. Re:Slashdotting from the BSD section?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      So I guess that Netcraft has confirmed that Li... oh, never mind.

    4. Re:Slashdotting from the BSD section?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
      Sure, we all know that *BSD is a failure, but why? Why did FreeBSD die? Once you get past the fact that *BSD is fragmented between a myriad of incompatible kernels, there is the historical record of failure and of failed operating systems.

      *BSD experienced moderate success about 15 years ago in academic circles. Since then it has been in steady decline. We all know *BSD keeps losing market share but why? Is it the problematic personalities of many of the key players? Or is it larger than their troubled personae?

      The record is clear on one thing: no operating system has ever come back from the grave. Efforts to resuscitate *BSD are one step away from spiritualists wishing to communicate with the dead.

      As the situation grows more desperate for the adherents of this doomed OS, the sorrow takes hold. An unremitting gloom hangs like a death shroud over a once hopeful *BSD community. The hope is gone; a mournful nostalgia has settled in. Now is the end time for *BSD.

    5. Re:Slashdotting from the BSD section?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Have you ever seen an animal backed into a corner and fighting for its life? That is the exact situation BSD finds itself in. The BSD fans are in a state of desperation, and even the mildest criticism of their hobby horse results in wild and paranoid outbursts from the faithful. They will find an alibi and excuse for everything. Truth has nothing to do with it. The truth is too painful for the BSD crowd.

    6. Re:Slashdotting from the BSD section?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      I guess it's fair to say FreeBSD is dead, but that's a sort of odd thing to say. It stems from the obvious popularity of Linux as _the_ Unix free OS, but the FreeBSD project has only gotten more fractious and hateful in recent memory. FreeBSD is pathologically sick in this respect. Granted the lack of development in the BSD standard is gonna hurt, and right now things are looking poorly for FreeBSD. Yes it is dying.

  3. Qemu by ebcdic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As far as I can tell, the only reasonably fast and complete free emulator is qemu. It's quite portable, and can emulate several processors, including x86 and PPC. You can then install the operating system of your choice.

    I had no problem emulating an x86 on my Mac, and installing FreeBSD.

  4. One word... by JamesTRexx · · Score: 1

    YEEHAAA!!!

    *smirk*

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  5. *BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Fact: *BSD is dying

    It is common knowledge that *BSD is dying. Everyone knows that ever hapless *BSD is mired in an irrecoverable and mortifying tangle of fatal trouble. It is perhaps anybody's guess as to which *BSD is the worst off of an admittedly suffering *BSD community. The numbers continue to decline for *BSD but FreeBSD may be hurting the most. Look at the numbers. The erosion of user base for FreeBSD continues in a head spinning downward spiral.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of BSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major marketing surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among hobbyist dilettante dabblers. In truth, for all practical purposes *BSD is already dead. It is a dead man walking.

    Fact: *BSD is dying

  6. Obituary: Al Dvorin has died by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Al Dvorin, famous for using the phrase "Elvis has left the building" at the end of the singer's shows, has died. Dvorin died in a car accident as he and well-known Elvis photographer Ed Bonja drove from Palm Springs to Las Vegas. He was thrown from the car and died at the scene.

    Though details of the accident were not clear, it seemed Dvorin was adjusting his seat belt or had dropped something, and that Bonja reached over to assist and lost control of the car. the website added.

    Earlier in the day, Mr Dvorin - aged 81 - had appeared at the Trump 29 Casino in Coachella, California, with Elvis impersonator Paul Casey. His catch-phrase was used by other announcers at Elvis shows, but Dvorin made it his own.

    In related news, BSD's corpse was found dumped in a draw near Elko. Due to the advanced state of decay, the cause of BSD's death could not immediately be determined.

  7. Virtual Machines are dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I mean even hardened BSd user doesn't care.
    Another nail in the coffin I guess.

  8. Not there yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I tried the Linux version, it looks promising, but is not there yet. The worst part is that Win 2k et al are not very well supported. But maybe they have that working correctly in 2004Q4 too. Anyway, it is nice to see that it runs on FreeBSD. So, vote with your wallet if you want it to stay.

    Now we still need a NetBSD version ;).

  9. Elegy for FreeBSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Elegy For *BSD


    I am a *BSD user
    and I try hard to be brave
    That is a tall order
    *BSD's foot is in the grave.

    I tap at my toy keyboard
    and whistle a happy tune
    but keeping happy's so hard,
    *BSD died so soon.

    Each day I wake and softly sob
    Nightfall finds me crying
    Not only am I a zit faced slob
    but *BSD is dying.

  10. Vmware on FBSD? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Ive never got that to work.. Anyone want to toss some hints out....

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    1. Re:Vmware on FBSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd be glad to help. Toss out some error messages, mmkay?

    2. Re:Vmware on FBSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      this Bitch iS Dead
    3. Re:Vmware on FBSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My word, how clever! Heheh. You used a phrase that expresses what you think about BSD, and then highlighted letters in the phrase to spell out--hehe, this is the best part--"BSD"!!!! Too bad it wasn't an acronym, but nonetheless, good show! Hehehe. I got a good chuckle out of this one, boy I'll tell ya.

      How *do* you come up with this? Hehehe. Ah, my.

    4. Re:Vmware on FBSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need Linux VMware 2 media/licence for FreeBSD 4 or Linux VMware 3 media/licence for FreeBSD 5.x. However I cant find a way to buy these from vmware anymore. Then uses the ports, both description have links to the webpages of the guys responsible for porting the kernel modules from Linux to FreeBSD:

      vmware2 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/emulators /vmware2/pkg-descr
      vmware3 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/emulators /vmware3/pkg-descr

    5. Re:Vmware on FBSD? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      Something about needing kernel components, from the last attempt anyway..

      Have both Linux layer and BSD sys source installed..

      Latest ports via cvs...

      And even have a real license for vmware...

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  11. Bochs isnt practical by nurb432 · · Score: 2

    Its not practical for application usage due to its speed. ( or rather lack of )

    Its strength is the complete emulation for testing of OS's, not for creating a 'useable' virtual environment..

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  12. Come on, people, necrophilia is frowned upon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Redundant
    It is official -- Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying

  13. Overkill by JamesTRexx · · Score: 1

    Finally being able to read TFA, I wonder how much help it'll be in a citrix environment.
    If you only use thin clients, maybe, but I doubt if you have the right environment for having to use virtual machines then. Many older applications can run on windows with a little tweaking, and if it's about using both windows and *nix/*bsd applications, plenty of ways to be able to run a client/server solution on both platforms (citrix/x11).

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  14. Los Muertos BSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    haiku

    flask of ripe urine
    pressed to dead bsd lips
    bsd drink up

  15. Voted with my $$. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I talked to the staff via phone and e-mail.

    1) The product was orginally developed on FreeBSD, then ported to Linux because 'that is where the money was'
    2) I told them and VMWare I'd buy a product supported on FreeBSD.

    Now I get to send a photocopy of the invoice to the VMWare office....perhaps the CEO's home address and explain how I was happy to BUY thier product - but it seems VMWare didn't wanna sell me a working product.

    1. Re:Voted with my $$. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      So.... VMWare confirms: FreeBSD doesn't matter.

    2. Re:Voted with my $$. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And VMWare is so useless to not warrant me illegally using the crap. Even Microsoft code is worth using in ways the licence does not allow. (hint: not paying for it).

  16. Reiser Rocks !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Reasons why Reiser4 is great for you:
    • Reiser4 is the fastest file system, and the benchmarks prove it.
    • Reiser4 is an atomic file system, which means that your file system operations either entirely occur, or they entirely don't, and they don't corrupt due to half occurring. We do this without significant performance losses, because we invented algorithms to do it without copying the data twice.
    • Reiser4 uses dancing trees, which obsolete the balanced tree algorithms used in databases (see farther down). This makes Reiser4 more space efficient than other file systems because we squish small files together rather than wasting space due to block alignment like they do. It also means that Reiser4 scales better than any other file system. Do you want a million files in a directory, and want to create them fast? No problem.
    • Reiser4 is based on plug-ins, which means that it will attract many outside contributors, and you'll be able to upgrade to their innovations without reformatting your disk. If you like to code, you'll really like plugins....
    • Reiser4 is architected for military grade security. You'll find it is easy to audit the code, and that assertions guard the entrance to every function.
    V3 of reiserfs is used as the default file system for SuSE, Lindows, FTOSX and Gentoo. We don't touch the V3 code except to fix a bug, and as a result we don't get bug reports for the current mainstream kernel version. It shipped before the other journaling file systems for Linux, and is the most stable of them as a result of having been out the longest.

    Reiser4, for when only the best will do!

    1. Re:Reiser Rocks !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gentoo has no default file system. Ext3 is a lot more stable than Reiser 3.

  17. Ashlee Keeps Her 'GREAT RACK' Under Wraps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Confident pop rocker Ashlee Simpson has vowed to keep her "great rack" under wraps and never expose her curves in a men's magazine. The younger sister of reality TV star Jessica Simpson told Blender magazine that she is proud of her ample chest, but is too conservative to expose them in the media.

    Ashlee says, "I know exactly what's under this T-shirt, but I'm going to keep it under wraps."

    "Maybe I'll take a few pictures for myself because I have to tell you, I do have great breasts! I am 19, after all."

  18. 5.x by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Still on 4.x here, but with 5.3 about to appear, might give it a try instead..

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