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Chimps Use Tool Kit

Wannabe Code Monkey writes "This article on National Geographic describes how scientists have observed chimps using different sticks for different tasks when retrieving termites from nests. Scientists had previously only seen chimps using one kind of tool, this switching back and forth based on the task at hand is the first such behavior witnessed. Three videos in Real format of the chimps are linked from the article as well."

44 comments

  1. well put a lock on it then! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Those chimps, rooting through your tool kit, probably looking for a spanner to tighten their nuts!

  2. No surprise ... by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why, just the other day, I saw Bush use one microphone to bash Kerry, and then another to claim that going to war in Iraq has made America safer. Those critters are smarter than we think!

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    1. Re:No surprise ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Smarter than your average /. poster in any event.

  3. Does this mean chimps like the UNIX philosophy? by xutopia · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Even chimps apply the general idea behind the first point of the UNIX philosophy: "Make each program do one thing well. To do a new job, build afresh rather than complicate old programs by adding new features."

    I knew chimps were smart but not that smart! :)

    1. Re:Does this mean chimps like the UNIX philosophy? by Dr.+GeneMachine · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wrong conclusion - this only proves that UNIX was designed by chimps...

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    2. Re:Does this mean chimps like the UNIX philosophy? by daeley · · Score: 1

      ...or were the chimps designed by UNIX, and the computer gods use one species for one task?

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    3. Re:Does this mean chimps like the UNIX philosophy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...or on soviet russia, unix chimps design you

  4. Re:FP by lucretio · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Pink Heinied Baboon?

  5. Which toolkit, though? by Vadim+Grinshpun · · Score: 3, Funny

    GTK? Qt? Motif?
    Talk about a code monkey... :-P

    1. Re:Which toolkit, though? by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 1

      Qt.

      The chimp starts off by taking his raw tool and inheriting the "Stick Class". If he wants to dig with it (I/O) he has to inherit the "Dig" class and communications are through the "Wave") class. It's also got hooks for Security via the "Poke" and "Swing" classes.

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    2. Re:Which toolkit, though? by JamesP · · Score: 1

      CTK, for Chimp Tool Kit

      Duh!

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    3. Re:Which toolkit, though? by balster+neb · · Score: 1

      GTK? No.

      From what I understand, they use the Chimp Toolkit. :)

  6. but what toolkit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are they using the Gorilla Tool Kit or do they use the smaller FLTK?

  7. They use Dot NET by macz · · Score: 1
    Closer inspection shows them using Dot NET to program DB interfaces in VB...

    That was WAY too easy...

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  8. levels of intelligence... by CodeWanker · · Score: 4, Funny

    My dad always told me that "A dog will warm himself by the fire, but will never throw another log on it." So now, I guess a chimp will add fuel, but won't get one started?

    This also reminds me of that old headline at The Onion: "Dolphins Develop Thumbs: 'Oh Shit,' say Humans"

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    1. Re:levels of intelligence... by fiftyLou · · Score: 5, Insightful


      My dad always told me that "A dog will warm himself by the fire, but will never throw another log on it."

      Hmm, and when he made this observation were you usually flaked out on the couch instead of out mowing the lawn or the like?

      Nothing like subtle digs from dad.

    2. Re:levels of intelligence... by dasunt · · Score: 1

      This also reminds me of that old headline at The Onion: "Dolphins Develop Thumbs: 'Oh Shit,' say Humans"

      For those googling, try the actual headline: "Dolphins Evolve Opposable Thumbs: 'Oh, Shit,' Says Humanity"

    3. Re:levels of intelligence... by Enucite · · Score: 1

      "This also reminds me of that old headline at The Onion: "Dolphins Develop Thumbs: 'Oh Shit,' say Humans""

      For those who want to see the article, it's gone into the archives at the onion so you won't be able to view it without a premium account.

      However, for those without a premium account, here's a link to the article courtesy of archive.org

  9. Unemployed :( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, looks like most of us here can start looking for new jobs soon. *sigh*

  10. Specific groups ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Every time I've seen any coverage of tool-using chimps (OK, Discovery and National Geographic) they've highlighted that the tool usage among chimps is usually unique to a specific group of chimps and is learned behaviour.

    If you put a chimp in a new place where certain types of tools get used, it won't 'know' that tool is the applicable one. Likewise, young chimps take a while to actually learn to use the tool for what they're trying to accomplish.

    I wonder if this is a recently adapted tool by this group of chimps, or if this is a tool variation like most of the others that have been passed down within this group of chimps.

    Nonetheless, it's interesting to get the insight as to how we might have developed/evolved our tool using capabilities.

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  11. Ford by IanO · · Score: 1, Funny

    This isn't news... the local Ford dealer has had chimps using tools to work on cars for years.

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    1. Re:Ford by ptomblin · · Score: 1

      You're lucky. Around here the car mechanics use the same tool for everything. "Me bash car computer with hammer, it not fix. Me order replacement part. It not cover by warranty."

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  12. It's about time by dheltzel · · Score: 4, Funny

    When you only have one kind of stick, every problem looks like a termite.

  13. Which toolkit do chimps prefer? by EnVisiCrypt · · Score: 2, Funny

    Probably GTK, if I had to guess...

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  14. Orangs and Siamangs by TALlama · · Score: 3, Interesting

    At the San Diego Zoo, they have an exhibit called "Absolutely Apes" (which you can watch live. The exhibit has both Orangutans and Siamangs inside.

    One of the "enrichment" items in the exhibit is a "terminte mound" made of concrete that the keepers put treats inside of: honey, barbecue sauce, etc.

    The orangutans are smart enough to use tools like twigs to get the treats out, but the saimangs do not understand this concept.

    This seems a tad unfair, but the siamangs are smart enough to wait until the orangutans get the goodies out, and then the smaller apes sneak up and steal the tasty twigs!

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  15. They're lying!!! by El+Icaro · · Score: 1

    They actually were presented with a windows box and a control panel open with the new win xp layout. The chimps flung their poo at the screen, which shows obvious humanlike behaviour. Microsoft experts interpreted this as an approval to use it in future versions.

    1. Re:They're lying!!! by rts008 · · Score: 1

      Now I get it, THAT'S why S. Ballmer was in the monkey suit, to show them how!

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  16. What I Want to Know... by Mignon · · Score: 1

    Has anyone ported Linux to this new chimpset?

  17. obligatory.. by greywire · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I for one welcome our new Chimp overlords...

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  18. Training the youngsters by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1


    "No, no, no. This one is for the termites. That one is for the ladies."

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  19. I own that. by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

    Hey. I have a patent on retrieving insects with small sticks. I filed for it just after my first experience using chopsticks.

    I'm going to sue the crap out of those monkeys. They can't go using my stick-poker-kill-bug technique...

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  20. It's called Evolution! by shpoffo · · Score: 1

    A nifty theory - on that's being brought closer to proof here. Life is evolving. In time moneys will be able to communicate more clearly with us, too. Dogs and other critters will pick up a formal language renderable with humans as well.

    All life is getting smarter - surpirse!

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    1. Re:It's called Evolution! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In time moneys will be able to communicate more clearly with us, too.

      I don't know about the 'us'. In my experience, money seems to communicate much more often with girlfriends than they have with me. In fact, money often seems to spontaneously flee from me and to them.

  21. flip-flopping?! by Tom7 · · Score: 2, Funny

    this switching back and forth based on the task at hand

    This is proof that chimps flip-flop!!

    1. Re:flip-flopping?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nicely done... 5Gb of chimp or president have been pushed out TODAY.

  22. Position available... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wanted, experienced sysadmin. Must be able to use multiple tools and work for bananas.

  23. Bird-brains by bar-agent · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Bah. Chimps still aren't as smart as some birds.

    Among the behaviors noted in birds:
    • Making hooks and combs, then carrying the tools around with them -- and sharing them with others.
    • Using car traffic to crack nuts.
    • Raiding mountaineer food caches marked with flags.
    • Counting and expressing their desires in words.
    • Playing around with speed dial buttons and speakerphones.
    • Leading other birds to food.
    • Commercial transactions with people.
    Of course, not all birds do all these things. But, they must be considered in the same ballpark as chimps and dolphins.
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    1. Re:Bird-brains by Alsee · · Score: 1

      Commercial transactions with people

      Do they take MasterCard?

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  24. Dell by raider_red · · Score: 3, Funny

    Looks like the guys at Dell will have an even cheaper place to outsource their maintenance operations to.

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  25. Throwing a dog on the fire by ynotds · · Score: 1

    Maybe I'm just letting myself get distracted by my housemates' 8 month old German Shepherd's efforts to do archaeology in our yard.

    Several times I read "A dog will warm himself by the fire, but will never throw another log on it" as "never throw another dog on it" and so was infering that DaddyWanker was claiming dogs could make the moral distinction between inanimate fuel and other dogs, or maybe claiming that dogs are innately more moral than human arsonists if not crematorium operators.

    Most dogs I've known can find better things to do with tree parts than accelerating greenhouse warming.

    More on topic, one of my own sadly long departed dogs became quite good at taking any old branch and stripping it down until it was much better shaped for throwing and fetching, a toy maker if not a tool maker.

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  26. Read Scientific American by pjay_dml · · Score: 1

    I am not exactly sure when, but this is old news, and had been published by SA at least 2 years previously.

    slashdot is really degrading lately......

    1. Re:Read Scientific American by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "slashdot is really degrading lately......"

      Its always left me feeling soiled...

  27. Look in the mirror... by vettemph · · Score: 1
    Give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers and they with eventually slashdot your websit%#)(&^$##NO CARRIER.

    :D

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