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Sony PSP Sales Way Up

WeAz writes "According to an article via Yahoo's news service, Sony is reporting that they have sold 800,000 PSP units since the system's release last month. Demand for the system is so strong that there's already a shortage arising. To combat this, Sony 'would increase monthly PSP production by 100,000 units to one million in April, as it prepared to launch the product in the United States and Europe.' Ken Kutaragi, Sony Computer Entertainment's CEO said that monthly production of the PSP will eventually rise to 3 million units."

76 comments

  1. ds & psp - both huge hits, different audiences by dadybeef · · Score: 0, Troll

    fart.

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  2. Everyone's got the wrong headline... by Cutriss · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sony has not sold 800K units. Sony has shipped 800K units.

    They aren't "sold" until they're in the hands of consumers.

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    1. Re:Everyone's got the wrong headline... by MilenCent · · Score: 3, Interesting

      From the article:

      "I must admit (sales) are not big enough yet," Sony Computer Entertainment president and chief executive Ken Kutaragi told a news conference.

      You're right. It's outright said in the linked article by a Sony exec that sales haven't ramped up yet! Who's editing these stories?

      Considering that the whole PSP vs. DS fracas is one of the more strident arguments going on on Slashdot at the moment, I'm really scratching my head at how this one slipped by.

    2. Re:Everyone's got the wrong headline... by SetupWeasel · · Score: 1

      I'd also like to know how 290K sales in 3 weeks is "way up." Since launch sales in Japan for the PSP have been around 80-100K per week. This would make sales steady.

    3. Re:Everyone's got the wrong headline... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the exact same tactic Nokia resorted to when their N-gage system sold like garbage...

      Considering the DS is pounding the piss out of the PSP in sales in Japan, despite a lackluster software lineup on BOTH consoles, I don't think this one is as "in the bank" as some Sony fanbois might want us to think.

    4. Re:Everyone's got the wrong headline... by zonker · · Score: 0

      exactly. if the opposite were true you'd think the ngage was doing just dandy instead of costing stores via nonsold inventory...

    5. Re:Everyone's got the wrong headline... by Andy_R · · Score: 1

      Assuming they don't need to offer PSPs on sale or return, then Sony probably has sold 800k units to shops. It's the shops that may (or may not) have sold them on to consumers yet.

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    6. Re:Everyone's got the wrong headline... by badasscat · · Score: 1

      Considering that the whole PSP vs. DS fracas is one of the more strident arguments going on on Slashdot at the moment, I'm really scratching my head at how this one slipped by.

      You think Slashdot's immune to the Sony hype machine? Why do you think big companies like Sony have PR people, anyway? It's specifically to manipulate the press to their advantage, and Slashdot is part of that, like it or not.

      You would hope that both the submitters and the editors here would be a little more savvy - that's why some of us come here, after all - but unfortunately they're often just as naive as the rest of the press. I've found this is more often true in the games section than in other sections (games is one of the newest sections here, after all), but I see PR pieces posing as news in every section here on occasion.

      At least this didn't make it to the front page.

    7. Re:Everyone's got the wrong headline... by cgenman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The term for that is "sell-in" vs "sell-through."

      However, If they're increasing production, that usually means sell-through is going well.

    8. Re:Everyone's got the wrong headline... by supabeast! · · Score: 1

      Actually Sony HAS sold 800,000 units. PSP's are not shipped out for free - retailers pay for them and then the retailers resell to the consumers. So everyone DOES have the right headline.

    9. Re:Everyone's got the wrong headline... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who's editing these stories?

      Welcome to Slashdot.

      Stories are not edited here.

  3. This is good and bad. by Khakionion · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    On one hand, I'm worried that this is going to stifle innovation in the handheld market (you know, by doing things like beating the DS). On the other hand, I'm enthusiastic; PlayStation2 is THE gaming system for the true gamer, and if the PSP captures that traditional gaming "spirit," it's going to be a beautiful time for handheld gamers.

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    1. Re:This is good and bad. by FLAGGR · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Last time I checked, the average PS2 user was a self proclaimed 1337 (never play online with volume, its worse then XBL) Then again, xbox users are the "mature" (note the quotes) and PC players a fat, smelly, and can't spell. I'm starting to think that Nintendo players are the only normal ones. Then again I've never seen a Nintendo player online :)

      but yea, that whole traditional gaming spirit stuff is bullcrap, your post gives me diarrhea.

    2. Re:This is good and bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spoken like a true fanboy.

      Look up Katamari Damacy, Rez, and the Jak series, and tell me what XBox-platform games capture that kind of old school, frantic action gameplay.

    3. Re:This is good and bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      * PlayStation2 is THE gaming system for the true gamer *

      I guess I'm a "false" gamer, then.

    4. Re:This is good and bad. by FLAGGR · · Score: 0

      Lol I made fun of every system there, how does that make it a fanboy response? Katamari Damacy is very fun, but only because Japannese people are so scarily messed up, not becase the PS2 is anything special (it would work just as well on any system, hell it's got N64 graphics) Rez? Boring. Jak? Uninspired. If I had a dime for every boring Generic Platformer OF THE YEAR for the PS2, I'd be like, crushed under the weight of dimes.

    5. Re:This is good and bad. by squall14716 · · Score: 0, Troll

      He's talking about players. Because everyone knows you are a cock sucking n00b whose mother is fat you n00b.

    6. Re:This is good and bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "PlayStation2 is THE gaming system for the true gamer"

      Are you completely INSANE? PlayStation 2 is the gaming system for the Johnny-come-lately, mainstream gamer.

      The GameCube is the system that caters to old-school, hardcore gamers.

      I'm still not sure who the Xbox caters to, but I love running Linux on mine. ;-)

    7. Re:This is good and bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      it would work just as well on any system, hell it's got N64 graphics

      Ohhh, you're looking for superior graphics, not gameplay. Then ignore everything the parent said.

      Oh wait--Yeah, that would make you a fanboy.

    8. Re:This is good and bad. by hollismb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I would actually argue that the Playstation 2 appeals less to the true 'hardcore' gamer than any other system. Nintendo caters to the old-school (note that I didn't say 'skool') nostalgic gamer due to it's franchises, and after the death of the Dreamcast, most of the hardcore console gamers went with the Xbox (yes there are other good games besides Halo 2), at least from what I've seen of that former crowd, of which I was one. Mostly because of the fact that Sony pretty much killed the Dreamcast due to initial marketing hype and developer pinching (EA and Squaresoft to start with), to which they are, of course, entitled, but nonetheless, it left a sour Sony taste in many gamer's mouths. No doubt about it, the PS2 succeeded as well as it did because the PS1 was 'cool'. And 'cool' is not what brings the true gamers, as you put it. Games are. And I'm talking about quality, not quantity (which the PS2 obviously has).

      I don't own a PS2 because there's not a single game I want for it that I can't get on another console (at least in the long run), its graphic capabilities retained much of that 'PS1 look', and it doesn't have a good online system in my opinion, and the majority of it's top selling games (like the GTA series that you can get on an Xbox as well) don't really interest me. Pretty much all my gaming is done online now, and normally exclusively with people I've known to play games or argued with on message boards for years. I still have no interest in the PSP either, besides the fact it's a cool looking little gadget, simply because I have no interest whatsoever in any of its games. Wipeout? Metal Gear card-battle? Yet another good-yet-overrated Spider-man game? No thanks for now.

    9. Re:This is good and bad. by clu76 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      PlayStation2 is THE gaming system for the true gamer

      I've been playing video games since pacman. I resent statements like these.

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    10. Re:This is good and bad. by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      No, it would make you a fake one.

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    11. Re:This is good and bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you think the guy who wrote that would be be playing video games if they weren't whiz-bang 3D tours-de-force such as what passes for PS2 "games?" I doubt it.

      Personally, I see that the GameCube has the only "true console" feeling to it. I was a Dreamcast hackerboy after being a SNES junkie, but really, it's all about getting back to my roots when I play the GameCube. It's easily my favorite system of all the currently available home systems. It would only lose to Dreamcast and SNES for fighting games and shootemups. For everything else, it (along with or in place of a PS2) is definitely one console for sophisticated gamers with old school tastes to have. Leagues ahead of an Xbox, that's for sure.

    12. Re:This is good and bad. by rkischuk · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I don't own a PS2 because... and it doesn't have a good online system in my opinion

      WHAT? This would be a reasonable criticism against the Gamecube (and you're entitled to your opinion), but essentially what you're saying here is that the XBox is the ONLY console with a good online system? PS2 online is exactly as good as the game's creator makes it. The fact that Sony hasn't stepped in the middle of it all to offer standardized tools and interfaces in exchange for a slice of revenue every month is a reasonable decision. Microsoft's approach is reasonable, though I personally find the subscription model unappealing, it is competitive. For people who play online regularly, XBox Live is worth it, but not so much for infrequent online gamers. Sony's approach is less convenient, but is pretty good considering it's free. Some people don't WANT to pay each month just to use the network adapter that they have on their console - I'm glad they have a free online system, even if you think it isn't 'good'.
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    13. Re:This is good and bad. by Formula420 · · Score: 0

      I don't even know where to begin with your bombast. I think cgenman put you in your place, though, and I wanted to make a wild guess. and suggest that the first system you bough was an Xbox, you have probably not even touched a DC, or any of the other systems that cgenman pointed out. To be a true "hardcore console gamer" one would have to appreciate console gaming in all its forms and not be so obsessed with brand loyalty and corporate sponsorship. Support original games and their developers regardless of the hardware itself. Just remember what you miss when you blind yourself, I dare you to play even 5 minutes of Katamari Damacy and and remake the statement that there is not a single game you want for PS2. Better yet, play frequency and you will be in for a very life changing experience. I take it you don't dabble in psychadellics so you should probably at least huff some glue before playing to limber up the mind a little.

    14. Re:This is good and bad. by SetupWeasel · · Score: 1

      Katamari Damacy is the PS2's saving grace. I can safely say as a Nintendo fan that this should be the game you guiltily fork over $110 for a used PS2.

      It took 3 years for a game to come along to convince me that a PS2 was necessary for my gaming life.

      Of course I think the argument for a GameCube was made two years ago with Metroid Prime, so I don't know why all you PS2 fans don't have a GameCube yet.

    15. Re:This is good and bad. by Troed · · Score: 0, Troll

      Paper Mario 2 - Metroid Prime 2 - Resident Evil 4

      With those games released almost back-to-back, anyone not owning a Gamecube now is most definitely not a gamer ...

    16. Re:This is good and bad. by MORTAR_COMBAT! · · Score: 1

      just as the /true/ grail grants life, a /false/ one will take it from you.

      the opposite of true is false. the opposite of fake is authentic.

      also, a comment like "PS2 gamers are the only true gamers" is perhaps one of the most fanboy 12-year-old type of comment imaginable. there were plenty of "true" gamers long before the PS2 or even the original PlayStation, and there will be plenty of us around when the PS2 is long gone. a "true" gamer isn't about a "my console is longer^H^H^H^H^H^H^H better than yours" pissing contest, or divisive flames, they are about having a good time and experiencing the best games, old and new, tried and tired, experimental and old-school.

      peace. i may not be a "true" gamer, but i am certainly a gamer. i was a gamer before Sony put together their first PS2 and i'll be a gamer long after Sony puts together their last PS2, barring death, dismemberment, and the like.

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    17. Re:This is good and bad. by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      I agree with the sentiment, but not the statement. You're a gamer even if you just play old NES games. Unqualified statements of console enthusiasm are... unseemly... on Slashdot.

      Also, you forgot Pikmin 2.

    18. Re:This is good and bad. by DeadScreenSky · · Score: 1
      For people who play online regularly, XBox Live is worth it, but not so much for infrequent online gamers. Sony's approach is less convenient, but is pretty good considering it's free. Some people don't WANT to pay each month just to use the network adapter that they have on their console - I'm glad they have a free online system, even if you think it isn't 'good'.

      The original poster made it clear they were a "hardcore gamer". Obviously a system catering its online system to casual games doesn't matter to them, and can even be a negative to some gamers (it leads to more little kids online, for example). And it was clearly an 'IMO' statement, so you seem to be taking it a little too personally...

      Anyway, here are credible reasons to believe that the PS2 just doesn't have a good online system compared to Xbox Live:
      1. No unified friend list (and with that, no ability to check what game's your friends are playing).
      2. Widespread cheating. (This is probably the biggest deal. Look at what happens to fighting games on the PS2 as opposed to the Xbox versions.)
      3. Freaking typing is used in many games to communicate.
      4. No real ability to update games, either to fix unforseen glitches or add content (yeah, a few PS2 games allow this, but not to the same level).
      5. It's free. This is actually a negative, as the nominal Xbox Live fee allows grievers and people who exploit temporary glitches (like in Halo2) to have their credit card(s) banned. They also end up basically losing money if they mess around.
      6. Online games can be "turned off". (MS did make a deal with EA to allow them to do this with Xbox Live, but they are thankfully the only company who can. And honestly, who really enjoys EA games and isn't used to getting ripped off anyway?)
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    19. Re:This is good and bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fact that you said Rez is boring showcases your complete lack of intelligence. Rez isan exploration of philosophy and ideas in a novel way. Unfortunately, if you are completely superficial, those things will fly completely over your head, as seems to be the case.

    20. Re:This is good and bad. by mink · · Score: 1

      "Rez isan exploration of philosophy and ideas in a novel way."

      Your ideas intrigue me, I would like to subscribe to your Game Review Newsletter.

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    21. Re:This is good and bad. by mink · · Score: 1

      I wish there was a 50/50 friend/foe option. Half the things I see you post, I agree with and make sense to me. The other half make sense, but I dont agree with them.
      Your post here is a case of the former.

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  4. In other news by superpulpsicle · · Score: 2, Funny

    - Nintendo talks about its long battery life superiority.

    - The DS will feature a brand new series in 2005: Mario DS, Metroid DS, Zelda DS. Followed by 2006 series of Mario 64 DS, Metroid DS, Zelda DS.

    - In 2008, Nintendo plans on releasing DS-more-color and DS advanced.

    1. Re:In other news by RealErmine · · Score: 2, Funny

      - In 2008, Nintendo plans on releasing DS-more-color and DS advanced.

      Don't forget the Nintendo DS Mini - Now with Unified Screen Technology!

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    2. Re:In other news by -kertrats- · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The DS will feature a brand new series in 2005: Mario DS, Metroid DS, Zelda DS. Followed by 2006 series of Mario 64 DS, Metroid DS, Zelda DS.

      As opposed to Sony, who's lineup stars include...Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid, Ridge Racer?

      Glass houses...

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    3. Re:In other news by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "As opposed to Sony, who's lineup stars include...Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid, Ridge Racer?"

      Sony doesn't even make those games. That's why Ridge Racer's on the DS, too. :P

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    4. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nintendo makes more Nintendo games. That's crazy! I think you just blew my mind.

    5. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sony publishes a lot of games for many developers, including the second-parties that do Jak, Ratchet & Clank, Gran Turismo, and any number of similar sequel factories.

      Sony is first-hand responsible for contracting so many sequels that it always makes me laugh to hear Sony fanboys talk about Nintendo in this regard. After all, how many Mario _platformers_ are there on GameCube alone? One. How many Jak _platformers_ are on PS2? THREE. How many Tomba games on PS1? TWO. How many Ratchet platformers on PS2 alone? THREE. How many Mario Kart games are there on N64? One. On GameCube? One. How many Gran Turismo games on PS1? TWO. On PS2? Soon to be TWO.

      Mario is everywhere, but only because Mario lends credibility to otherwise good games. Basically, Nintendo makes many types of games, and sometimes sticks Mario in them. Not hard to understand when you cut through all the anti-Nintendo bullshit that pervades the minds of all these johnny-come-lately gamer wannabe newbies that think they're supporting a sophisticated mentality when they bash on Nintendo. They aren't. What they're doing is completely the opposite, in fact. And I don't mind if they read this, because they don't understand anything un|3s5 j0o +yP3 Li3k d1s5, anyway.

    6. Re:In other news by TxdoHawk · · Score: 1

      So wait, Sony publishing unique sequels to awesome games is a bad thing? Well, I guess you love the fact that Nintendo re-released every single 2d Mario on the GBA without ever making a new one.

      Myself, I love the older Mario games, but I'd like something new to play, thanks.

    7. Re:In other news by SetupWeasel · · Score: 1

      Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga was great.

    8. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah I know sequel-bashing is the thing to do, comparing the string of Zelda games to, say Rocky I-VI. But that's not a fair comparison... I hate movie sequels. I usually like game sequels. But then, the stories in movie sequels usually suck... And in games, stories are nothing more than a backdrop. Whether the gameplay is fun or not is all that matters, and when I can return to a beloved game's world and experience it in a different way I enjoy it.

      How about looking at game sequels as a natural progression, more like episodes of a good television show? You don't watch the first Simpsons and say "that was great", then accuse episode 2 of being unoriginal and ripping off the first.

    9. Re:In other news by DeadScreenSky · · Score: 1

      The original poster was obviously referring to the 2D sidescrolling Mario games. The RPGs just don't scratch the same itch...

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    10. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So was Mario vs. Donkey Kong, Mario Golf, Mario Party Advance, Mario Kart...

    11. Re:In other news by FlipmodePlaya · · Score: 1

      The GameBoy used to get 2D Mario games, but they've since moved to calling them 'Wario Land'. One of them does exist on the GBA. Damn good series, too, that first Wario Land game I linked to is one of my favorites on a portable. Also, I've always enjoyed more of good things, so I don't mind sequels or ports/remakes one bit.

  5. Re:nobody cares by FLAGGR · · Score: 1

    I can see one mistake in your post.

    fp
    The rest seems fine though. :)

  6. Interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds very similar to the rise in DS production... I wonder if it is truthful, or is it just a competing news story to take the fire out from under the DS?

    1. Re:Interesting... by SetupWeasel · · Score: 2

      Good point. Sony seems to be talking only about future production and future demand.

      On the other hand. Sony is currently shipping 100,000 PSPs per week, and if they really do plan to launch in the US and Europe anytime soon, they will need a hell of a lot more than that. Even a million a month is only 333,000 for each region.

      If they really care about making a dent in DS market share, they will need more than 80K/week output in the US.

  7. Wait a second... by kryogen1x · · Score: 1, Troll
    Kutaragi said he wanted to give the PSP communication and web-browsing functions so it could compete against multi-function mobile phone handsets.

    Sounds like another N-Gage to me...

    1. Re:Wait a second... by UWC · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Sounds like another N-Gage to me...

      Yeah, except with decent resolution, competent hardware, a usable form factor, and the fact that it's coming from a well-established gaming division. I'll consider the PSP's battery life+UMD-shooting a draw with N-Gage's horribly convoluted game changing requirements.

      The resolution thing still confuses me. My Nokia 3660 has better resolution than the N-Gage.

      Also, I'm not a Sony apologist. If anything, I'd probably fall into the Nintendo fanboy category. I have a Gamecube, GBA, GBA SP (original GBA given to younger brother), and a DS. The dismissal of the PSP as "another N-Gage" still struck me as inexcusably trollish.

      Also, the lack of good games on the DS so far is still disappointing.

    2. Re:Wait a second... by fwitness · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, the lack of good DS games is extremely frustrating. I was an early adopter of the DS, and I know Nintendo does wonderfully innovative things. The DS is a great product, but it seems it might have been rushed just a teeny bit to combat the PSP. It seems like the PSP is also suffering from the same problem at the moment. Maybe if everybody just slowed down until everything was ready we would all be better off. One can dream.

      I still think there is room in the portable market for two consoles. This wasn't true when the previous game boy competitors came to market. There is a lot of people gaming now a days though, and I think their tastes are different. Enough so to create *at least* two portable console markets.

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    3. Re:Wait a second... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Sounds like another N-Gage to me..."

      I don't think many would say the PSP isn't a competent gaming machine. So, no, it doesn't sound like NGage to me. I don't expect those features to be all that popular, either.

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    4. Re:Wait a second... by kryogen1x · · Score: 1

      You got me wrong. Look at the words I quoted. The fact that it's trying to compete with both the handheld and cellphone markets makes it seem like the N-Gage.

    5. Re:Wait a second... by joshsisk · · Score: 1

      I'll consider the PSP's battery life+UMD-shooting a draw with N-Gage's horribly convoluted game changing requirements.

      Apparently the newer NGages solved this problem, so you'll mark that as a win for NGage?

    6. Re:Wait a second... by UWC · · Score: 1

      Sure. The count as I see it still 4-1 in favor of the PSP, though.

    7. Re:Wait a second... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now if only the psp had side-talking

  8. Re:I carry on by |/|/||| · · Score: 1
    Ha ha ha ha! Oh me. Wish I had some mod points.

    +5 for the observation, +50 for presentation.

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  9. MOD PARENT DOWN by gorim · · Score: 1

    Damn near every unit shipped has been sold. This is the history of the PSP. This is why there is a pending shortage. Even in Japan, its been difficult to find one even weeks after release.

    The parent assumes there is salable stock in warehouses and stores that is unsold. Normally, the parent would have a point, but that does not apply here.

    1. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yes, yes, we're all aware of the magical properties that are associated with Sony's traditional artificial low-production-run hardware product introductions. It gets the suckers and the Sony fanboys (sorry to repeat myself) all revved up, every time.

      The facts are:

      1. Nintendo released enough DS systems to meet demand, which started high, as it grows. They are over the 2 million mark in Japan alone, with high estimates that extend into Q2.

      2. Sony, as always, architected a low production of 200,000 PSPs, but still did not sell out of that puny first shipment until about three days after their launch. Subsequent shipments of the PSP sold even more slowly, despite resellers stocking up on it for export thanks to the ridiculous profits to be gained on ebay for a while. Nintendo DS did over 500,000 in the first four days and has outsold the PSP steadily, week after week. And those systems are being sold only for purchase and use by Japanese themselves (increasing the sinificance of these sales), since the DS launched in the U.S. weeks earlier (international early adopters of the DS imported from the U.S., not Japan). The DS launched only ten days before the PSP in Japan, but has sold more than 2.5 times the number of systems there. Do the math; whatever Sony is doing, it's failing them against the Nintendo DS. And anything they try now will only cost them money (facility and production ramp ups = expensive - they already lose money on PSP).

      3. With such a low initial production run, it is easy for Sony both to obscure actual demand and inflate perceived desirability in the press. "We've already sold out of PSPs! Everybody wants one, we just have to make more! *oh, btw, we only made ten of the damn things, shh*"

      Anyone and his mom can speculate what's going on, but at least be responsible enough to know that you have the facts, before you digest them as such.

    2. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by gorim · · Score: 2, Insightful

      All you have stated may very well be correct, but are really irrelevant, and is a straw argument since it doesn't at all address the points the parent made nor my challenge to them.

      Only the last sentence you stated is glaringly wrong "at least be responsible enough to know that you have the facts, before you digest them as such."

      Since we are talking facts, let me restate my original posting and the parent.

      1. Damn near every unit shipped has been sold. This is the history of the PSP. This is why there is a pending shortage. (ok you have me this last sentence, it doesn't refute my point)
      2. Even in Japan, its been difficult to find one even weeks after release.
      3. The parent assumes there is salable stock in warehouses and stores that is unsold. Normally, the parent would have a point, but that does not apply here.

      Let me restate the parent I was responding to:
      (Parent stated)
      1. Sony has not sold 800K units. Sony has shipped 800K units.
      2. They aren't "sold" until they're in the hands of consumers.

      Now, are you going to tell me that anything less than nearly all of this 800k are *not* in the hands of consumers ?

      Thank you for talking about Sony's past history of engineering shortages, it is quite interesting and would be a good topic in its own right, but please bring the discussion over to how many of those shipped are in consumer's hands.

    3. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 1

      Dec 27th - Jan 2nd (129,957/482,252)
      Jan 2nd - Jan 9th (62,052/62,052)

      Now, are you going to tell me that anything less than nearly all of this 800k are *not* in the hands of consumers ?

      Wait 2 weeks. Check the numbers. I doubt more than 87% have been sold(around 700,000), since there shouldn't be a sudden production surge(from 62k in a week to 110k per week) over the past 11 days, nor did some new game worth mentioning descend from the heavens.

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    4. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by DeadScreenSky · · Score: 1

      It should be pointed out that those numbers are basically just low-end estimates. Like the similar US data (via the NPD), many large stores simply aren't polled in the numbers that Magic Box posts.

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    5. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      Damn near every unit shipped has been sold. This is the history of the PSP.

      But that is not said, at least not plainly, in the article. At the very least, there should be a link to sales figures up there to illustrate that.

    6. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by Deadguy2322 · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes. More Anit-Sony trolling. Your beloved Nintendo would never create artificial shortages to get some cheap press ink. They really just didn't make enough hardware to meet the demand for their godlike DS system. That's why the major retailer I work for only got 2 units per store on launch day, and nothing more till January 3rd, even though the first two sat there unwanted for the first week. Dillhole.

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  10. Nice headline by techstar25 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Sony PSP Sales Way Up"

    Yeah, I mean, at this time last year they had sold, what, zero? I'd definitely say sales are up.

  11. magic-box SALES numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    from jan. 3-9: 70,851
    http://the-magicbox.com/topten.htm

    for all of 2004: 482,252
    http://the-magicbox.com/toptenlast.htm

    total SOLD through january 9th: 553,103

    this news was reported on january 20th. assuming 1 1/2 weeks worth of sales around 100,000 or so a week (average because the previous weeks was 70,000 and the week before that was 126,000), that puts units sold at 700,000 at the time of this release going out. so 100,000 psp's are sitting on store shelves? how is 100,000 psp's on shelves a shortage arising?

  12. I know, I know, don't feed the fanboys by cgenman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd contest that the PS2 lacks 'hardcore' appeal, or really that 'hardcore' appeal matters. The PS2 has had many games that could be described as Hardcore, from Final Fantasy Online to Devil May Cry to Rez. The PS2 has had a lot of great exclusives in it's lifetime. Ratchet and Clank, Metal Gear Solid, ICO, Katamari Damacy, the Silent Hill series, Tekken, Onimusha, Kingdom Hearts, Xenosaga, Hot Shots Golf, *Plug* Amplitude, Eyetoy: AntiGrav */Plug*

    The PS2 did well during it's early days because of Grand Theft Auto, Metal Gear Solid 2, Gran Turismo, Tony Hawk, Max Payne, SSX, Final Fantasy, Virtua Fighter 4, and a bunch of other great games. It also ran uncontested during a period of the console cycle when people were in a buying mood. The Dreamcast died because it launched at a dead spot during people's buying cycles. People had just got PS1's En Masse, and asking them to switch again to a moderately more powerful system was just foolish. People weren't ready. On the other hand, if you had Dreamcasts that would put you at ripe for a new console about when the XBox started strutting it's stuff, which makes sense. I don't recall any of this so-called developer pinching... Any links?

    But no system is without their exclusive must-try games. The GameCube has the astoundingly great and totally original Metroid Prime, an excellent Treasure title in Ikaruga, a great Zelda, Resident Evil 4, Pikmin 2, the highly original Harvest Moon series, the excellent and gimmocky Crystal Chronicles and 4 Swords Adventures, Donkey Konga, Wario Ware, etc. No hardcore gamer that appreciates the art can afford to ignore the gamecube.

    The Xbox's online capabilities are excellent, but remember that even with XBox live, only 10% of all gamers ever bring their console online. It also only pushes about 50% more polys than the PS2, which when it comes to gaming terms is not a significant difference. The XBox does have some great exclusives, such as Halo, Ninja Gaiden, and Crimson Skies, but I don't need to convince you of that. I do really hope that with the next generation of hardware, everyone emulates XBox's online capabilities. On the other hand, I'm not looking forward to the headache of implementing and debugging all of that online capability, but oh well. All for the fans.

    But really, everyone defines 'hardcore' as something different. To me the hardcore gamer has all three of the current platforms, and most of the past ones as well. I'd consider someone hardcore if they owned a SuperGraphix, a Final Fantasy Wonderswan, or possibly just a Neo Geo. A Dreamcast, Virtual Boy, Jaguar, or 3DO bought after they were obviously dead systems might also suffice if there were mitigating circumstances. Most of the publishers I've talked to consider hardcore players to be owners of two systems, who spend over X hours a week on videogames, and who buy more than N titles a month. You, apparently, are defining hardcore people as those whom you see on XBox live. Hence, if you're trying to appeal to "hardcore" people because you think they buy more games, you really need to break that down into the demographic that you think that you're getting. If you're trying to appeal to "hardcore" gamers because you think that only they will understand your genius design, then you need to look at why your system is so impossible to use (MOO3, anyone?). If on the other hand, you're trotting out the name of the 'hardcore' gamer because you want some cred for your argument, you need to find a better backing. Who are these hardcore gamers, specifically, and what is it about the [ NES / SNES / Genesis / TG16 / Sega CD / 3DO / N64 / Saturn / Playstation / Jaguar / Dreamcast / PS2 / XBox / Game Cube / PS3 / XBox 2 / Game Tetrahedron ] that makes them feel that it [ Roxxors / Suxxors / Blows 'yo Mamma / Is going to rule over all ].

    And in summary, a Penny Arcade cartoon.

    1. Re:I know, I know, don't feed the fanboys by iainl · · Score: 1

      I'd agree completely. In fact, I'd argue that the XBox is the _least_ appropriate for the hardcore gamer.

      Any hardcore gamer will be needing a Cube for Super Monkey Ball, Ikaruga (unless they've got the Dreamcast version already), the Pikmin series and all those other games you mentioned.

      Any gamer with a PS2 but no Gradius V or Rez should be forced to hand in their 'hardcore' card right now.

      But there really isn't that much on the XBox for the hardcore in comparison. Panzer Dragoon Orta, Otogi, OutRun 2, and then I start struggling.

      By the way, congratulations on those Harmonix titles - they're excellent.

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  13. Ummm - date pushed back again? by TJ_Phazerhacki · · Score: 1

    'would increase monthly PSP production by 100,000 units to one million in April, as it prepared to launch the product in the United States and Europe.' Thought the projected release was Mar. If there having a hard time keeping shelves stocked in one part of the world, what about 2? For every game-a-holic Japanese kid, there's a spoiled american kid with too much allowance. All I can say - good thing I'm 3rd on the list at eb. That, and the fact that I can sleep standing up in a line at 12 o'clock. What nobody tells you is that at Frantic release dates - a calm voice and some commiseration with the EB staff nets you alot of good. I reserved neither HL2, GTA:VC, Halo2, or a DS, but still managed to get each opening day with a smile and an appology for the crowd being filled with a bunch of people -sleep+sugar-maturity. (Whoa - that ended a little off-topic)

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  14. Re:I carry on by RegalBegal · · Score: 1

    Troll? Damn, guess all the mods found roaches in their cereal boxes this morning...or is the term around here boxen.

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  15. Re:I carry on by Zen+Punk · · Score: 1

    Fucking hilarious. Mods, correct this injustice!

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  16. Re:I carry on by |/|/||| · · Score: 1
    Obviously Sony fanboys who don't understand what "you can ship but never sell" means. Oh well, I'm used to people being a disappointment (I live in the US).

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