HaikuOS Registrar Working

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Posted by ryuzaki0 on Saturday January 22, 2005 @09:33PM from the fix-your-class-schedule dept.

Professor Cool Linux writes "'The registrar, the app server's shy brother, who manages several system-wide application services like the application roster, the MIME types database, the clipboard, and message runners, is now working under HaikuOS.'"

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PC competition for the Mini-MAC? by Anonymous Coward · 2005-01-22 21:41 · Score: -1, Redundant

When MAC announced their "Mini", it caught my eye. Wanting to buy/build a small computer for my already cramped breakfast bar, I started pricing out similar hardware. The results startled me. Most of the configurations I found were more than the humble US$499 of the "Mini", often much more. To match price I had to configure with a much bigger shuttle-style case.

My question is this. What PCs are currently on the market to compete with this? When my wife asks for the "cute little MAC", what real computer can I buy instead?
1. Re:PC competition for the Mini-MAC? by Anonymous Coward · 2005-01-22 22:26 · Score: -1, Offtopic
  
  When MAC announced their "Mini", it caught my eye. Wanting to buy/build a small computer for my already cramped breakfast bar, I started pricing out similar hardware. The results startled me. Most of the configurations I found were more than the humble US$499 of the "Mini", often much more. To match price I had to configure with a much bigger shuttle-style case.
  
  My question is this. What PCs are currently on the market to compete with this? When my wife asks for the "cute little MAC", what real computer can I buy instead?
2. Re:PC competition for the Mini-MAC? by Anonymous Coward · 2005-01-22 22:32 · Score: -1, Offtopic
  
  When MAC announced their "Mini", it caught my eye. Wanting to buy/build a small computer for my already cramped breakfast bar, I started pricing out similar hardware. The results startled me. Most of the configurations I found were more than the humble US$499 of the "Mini", often much more. To match price I had to configure with a much bigger shuttle-stylecase.
  
  My question is this. What PCs are currently on the market to compete with this? When my wife asks for the "cute little MAC", what real computer can I buy instead?
3. Re:PC competition for the Mini-MAC? by Anonymous Coward · 2005-01-22 22:35 · Score: -1, Offtopic
  
  When MAC announced their "Mini", it caught my eye. Wanting to buy/build a small computer for my already cramped breakfast bar, I started pricing out similar hardware. The results startled me. Most of the configurations I found were more than the humble US$499 of the "Mini", often much more. To match price I had to configure with a much bigger shuttle-style case.
  
  My question is this.What PCs are currently on the market to compete with this? When my wife asks for the "cute little MAC", what real computer can I buy instead?
4. Re:PC competition for the Mini-MAC? by Anonymous Coward · 2005-01-22 22:37 · Score: -1
  
  When MAC announced their "Mini",it caught my eye. Wanting to buy/build a small computer for my already cramped breakfast bar, I started pricing out similar hardware. The results startled me. Most of the configurations I found were more than the humble US$499 of the "Mini", often much more. To match price I had to configure with a much bigger shuttle-style case.
  
  My question is this. What PCs are currently on the market to compete with this? When my wife asks for the "cute little MAC", what real computer can I buy instead?
5. Re:PC competition for the Mini-MAC? by Anonymous Coward · 2005-01-22 22:39 · Score: -1
  
  When MAC announced deir "Mini", it caught mah' eye. Wantin' t'steal/build some small clunker fo' m'already cramped breakfast bar, ah' started pricin' out similuh hardware. De results startled me. Most uh de configurashuns ah' found wuz mo'e dan de humble US$499 uh de "Mini", often much mo'e. To match price ah' had t'configure wid some much bigga' shuttle-style case. Slap mah' fro!
  
  Mah' quesshun be dis. Whut PCs is currently on de market t'compete wid dis? When mah' mama ax's fo' de "cute little MAC", whut real clunker kin ah' steal instead?
6. Re:PC competition for the Mini-MAC? by Anonymous Coward · 2005-01-22 22:47 · Score: -1
  
  When MAC announced their "Mini", it caught my eye. Wanting to buy/build a small computer for my already cramped breakfast bar, I started pricing out similar hardware. The results startled me. Most of the configurations I found were more than the humble US$499 of the "Mini", often much more.To match price I had to configure with a much bigger shuttle-style case.
  
  My question is this. What PCs are currently on the market to compete with this? When my wife asks for the "cute little MAC", what real computer can I buy instead?
7. Re:PC competition for the Mini-MAC? by Anonymous Coward · 2005-01-22 22:53 · Score: -1
  
  When MAC announced their "Mini", it caught my eye. Wanting to buy/build a small computer for my already cramped breakfast bar, I started pricing out similar hardware. The results startled me. Most of the configurations I found were more than the humble US$499 of the "Mini", often much more. To match price I had to configure with a much bigger shuttle-style case.
  
  My question is this. What PCs are currently on the market to compete with this? When my wife asks for the"cute little MAC", what real computer can I buy instead?
8. Re:PC competition for the Mini-MAC? by Anonymous Coward · 2005-01-22 22:56 · Score: 0
  
  mr. troll, EAT THIS
not that i liked the movie or anything... by SPY_jmr1 · 2005-01-22 22:33 · Score: 1

And then? I mean to say... I speek technogeek rather well, and this just goes over my head... Perhaps it's the hour, but am I missing something potentially impressive here? (preferably explained in english, ;) )
Not wanting to sound insensitive... by Anonymous Coward · 2005-01-22 22:36 · Score: -1, Flamebait

...but the first thing that leapt to mind upon reading this story was an almighty SO?

It's a small part of an unfinished clone of a dead niche operating system. Hands up everybody who has actually installed this, let alone uses it often enough to warrant it being newsworthy.

I respect what these guys are trying to do, but this doesn't belong on Slashdot any more than the 0.1 release of foobar text editor that somebody whipped up on their lunch break.
1. Re:Not wanting to sound insensitive... by bersl2 · 2005-01-22 23:10 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  It's a small part of an unfinished clone of a dead niche operating system.
  
  What, not even the benefit of a Netcraft announcement?
2. Re:Not wanting to sound insensitive... by gl4ss · 2005-01-23 00:25 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  *It's a small part of an unfinished clone of a dead niche operating system. Hands up everybody who has actually installed this, let alone uses it often enough to warrant it being newsworthy.
  
  I respect what these guys are trying to do, but this doesn't belong on Slashdot any more than the 0.1 release of foobar text editor that somebody whipped up on their lunch break. *
  
  OK, slashdot is NEWS FOR NERDS.
  
  this definetely is NERDY. much more geeky than all the politics crap.
  
  filter the beos stuff out if you wish. beos still rocks even if it's not usable for the stuff I do at the moment, but hopefully these projects will bring it to life again.
  
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3. Re:Not wanting to sound insensitive... by capoccia · 2005-01-23 01:34 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  SO?
  RTFA -- "...in principle we should now be able to run most non-graphical applications."
  
  Hands up everybody who has actually installed this, let alone uses it often...
  Aye.
  
  ...this doesn't belong on Slashdot...
  Operating system news is about as much nerd as you can get. It's also open-source, so feel free to cannibalize.
4. Re:Not wanting to sound insensitive... by DaveJay · 2005-01-23 16:07 · Score: 1
  
  Hands up everybody who has actually installed this, let alone uses it often enough to warrant it being newsworthy.
  
  (raising my hand)
  
  Used it daily for months, hated to let it go, but with the shutdown of development it couldn't keep up with the hardware. Very happy to see this continuing to move forward, and hopefully something useful will come of it someday.
  
  Oh, and if you're looking for a great user of BeOS in this day and age, check out TuneTracker.
5. Re:Not wanting to sound insensitive... by Anonymous Coward · 2005-01-26 04:10 · Score: 0
  
  One day not so long ago, people would have said the same thing about Linux.
  
  Have you ever used BeOS? I've known about it since R1, and I downloaded R5 Personal as soon as it came out. Despite the almost total lack of third-party applications, it was by far the most usable operating system I've ever ran. It took 18 seconds (I timed it) from pressing the power button on my Celeron 466 to having a usable desktop - no hourglass or spinning beach ball or anything. Everything was an order of magnitude faster, on that Celeron, than Windows XP on my 3.0 GHz Pentium 4 desktop or Panther on my 1 GHZ G4 iBook.
  
  And everything just /worked/. Tracker and Deskbar are beautifully simple and functional. Hardware compatibility is brilliantly transparent. Applications were installed like OS X packages, except they were much more compact. StyledEdit did everything that TextEdit did, except possibly for spelling (I don't notice, I'm a good typist), and there were spelling services you could download (the Cocoa API was based in large part off BeOS' architecture). Keyboard shortcuts even use the Alt key, meaning that you can quit an application with your thumb and ring finger without having to twist your hand. (I guess this is the legacy of having built BeOS for PowerPC first. :D)
  
  BeOS might seem irrelevant now, when there's only a tiny group of hackers working on it. Linux arguably has more marketshare than Mac OS now, though, and BeOS is just way better. Be's marketshare was artificially low only because it cost money, and who was going to pay money for an app whose only third-party applications (except Gobe, which is still the best office suite ever - ask Apple, who hired most of their engineers for Pages) were written by hobbyists? Now that an open-source BeOS will be completed very soon (considering how fast they've been going, I'm hoping a beta version will be released by the beginning of 2006), people will be able to download it and play with it the same way they did with Linux, except that Haiku will be many times more user-friendly and will already have a wide range of GUI applications available.
  
  I'm not one of those people who thinks Haiku will take over all computers someday. But if it got even as much marketshare as Linux, then who would need to spend hundreds of extra dollars for Macs, when you could buy ultra-cheap PCs that, thanks to Haiku, would run faster and have a wider base of third-party software?
  
  (Note1: Obviously, Macs, especially notebooks, have hardware advantages over PCs, like clearer screens and longer battery life. Still, the cheapest 14-inch iBook costs $1300, while you can get 14-inch or 15-inch Dells for significantly less... I'm willing to pay the premium for OS X and the hardware compatibility, but I don't think I would be just for the battery life.)
Significant progress indeed by Blowfishie · 2005-01-22 22:54 · Score: 5, Informative

Haiku is basically rebilding BeOS from scratch open-source style, so getting one of the fundamental building blocks working in such a way that it allows non-GUI apps to run is a great achievement.
The status page has more details on the overall system progress. When I first visited that page, I though that it would take forever to finish. I looked again just now and got a most optimistic feeling.
1. Re:Significant progress indeed by Anonymous Coward · 2005-01-23 02:16 · Score: 0
  
  BeOS was seriously lacking in its own right, so I guess I just don't see the point. These operating system archaeoligists/rehashers are the internet equivalent of necrophiliacs. What happened to innovation and creativity? What we really need is some progress in the field of CS, not more memes and retro fetishism.
2. Re:Significant progress indeed by schnits0r · 2005-01-23 07:22 · Score: 0, Offtopic
  
  I know groupthink will mod him down, but if you are a good moderator, you'd mod this up. It is a good point about the lacking of creativity in the field of CS.
  
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3. Re:Significant progress indeed by Anonymous Coward · 2005-01-23 10:59 · Score: 0
  
  Like all projects that clone something (Linux, for example), they fail to fix the problems in the design of what they're cloning.
4. Re:Significant progress indeed by mabhatter654 · 2005-01-23 14:52 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  How was BeOS lacking? The only thing lacking was their legal team couldn't break MS monopoly contracts. BeOS is a much cleaner platform for the internet age than just about anything else [except maybe amegia]. The way everything could just "work" together would have completely revolutionized the software industry... Although the BeOS model is much better for OSS development than properitary. It's extremely modular, that's the whole point of the OSS working to recreate it one module at a time!!!
  Seriously though, BeOS had features in 1999 that MS and Apple are braging about "innovating" in their OS NEXT YEAR!!! Of course Apple has hired some of those BeOS programmers to add the feature to tiger...so in a way they are getting their kudos.
5. Re:Significant progress indeed by Anonymous Coward · 2005-01-23 16:30 · Score: 0
  
  would really be interesting to know what exactly those features were.
6. Re:Significant progress indeed by jhdevos · 2005-01-23 21:12 · Score: 1
  
  I think he's barking at the wrong tree here.
  
  BeOS was innovative in many respects. At least it was a nice, clean implementation of some great idea's, and therefore makes a very good base for further improvements. So the worth of the Haiku project is twofold: making sure those innovations go somewhere, and making a base which can be further improved upon. I think there is definitely a need for something like that.
  
  Oh, and I would still like to hear about how Be was 'lacking' from the PP.
  
  Jan
7. Re:Significant progress indeed by be-fan · 2005-01-25 16:18 · Score: 1
  
  BeOS was rather seriously lacking in the area of filesystem and virtual memory performance. The biggest problem was the lack of a unified file/vm cache.
  
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8. Re:Significant progress indeed by renoX · 2005-01-26 08:07 · Score: 1
  
  > except maybe amiga
  
  The OS without memory protection?
  Great!
HaikuOS by Anonymous Coward · 2005-01-23 09:41 · Score: 4, Funny

leaves falling softly
to untouched green expanses
LET BEOS DIE
One example by no+reason+to+be+here · 2005-01-25 07:48 · Score: 2, Insightful

compare the BeOS file system to the one that Apple is planning on introducing in tiger, or the fabled WinFS that seems to keep on getting pushed further and further into the future.

Actually, WinFS is supposed to replace the file system with a database, which is what BeOS had in it's earliest days, before the guys at Be, Inc. decided that it ate too many resources, and then designed the BFS that Apple is now copying (and don't say they aren't, they hired the original designer of Be's file system to write their new one).

Indeed, the cloned version of the file system has been picked up by another open-source OS (Syllable, I think) for use as their file system.

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