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The Xbox 360 Motherboard Exposed

Posted by Zonk on from the off-the-back-of-a-truck dept.

MaxConsole writes "The Xbox hacking group smartXX has managed to unofficially get their hands on three Xbox 360 development kits. As if this wasn't enough, they have completely dissected the inner workings of the Xbox 360 dev kits, showing exactly how the Xbox 360 will work revealing all the details on the various hardware components."

30 comments

  1. Wow ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, someone actually found something more pointless (to the average gamer) to talk about than technical specs. What's next an interview with the case designer?

  2. Don't you know what happens? by dauthur · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Last time I checked, whenever there's publicized info on unreleased Microsoft stuffs, people get into trouble. Remember what happened with that bunch of people who posted screenies of Longhorn?

    1. Re:Don't you know what happens? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are in serious error. There were never any screenshots of Windows Vista showing IE7 on the Linux Noob Forums. You never saw the motherboard. The people that posted these supposed pictures do not exist. They are unpersons. There are no pictures. Say otherwise and you will be interrogated and found out. You know who you are you agents of Goldstein!

  3. Wow! by Chokai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And the reason we didn't photoshop out all the serial numbers on the pictures is what? To make it as easy as possible for MS to potentially backtrack how you got your hardware and eliminate your source or possibly cost them thier job/contract? Smart.

    1. Re:Wow! by Anm · · Score: 2, Informative

      What are you talking about? The serial numbers are blocked out:
          Power adapter serial tag
          Back of box tag

      Anm

    2. Re:Wow! by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 1

      Unless Microsoft is also "SmartXX" and is officially condoning mod chips this time round....

      hmmm i think i smoked bad shit last night....

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    3. Re:Wow! by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

      "And the reason we didn't photoshop out all the serial numbers on the pictures is what? To make it as easy as possible for MS to potentially backtrack how you got your hardware and eliminate your source or possibly cost them thier job/contract? Smart."

      Yeah, I'm sure Microsoft's going to come down on the dudes for giving them a free blast on Slashdot. "Oh no! People have seen the motherboard! They'll know.... uh... to the Lawyer Cave!"

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    4. Re:Wow! by Chokai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Um hello. You need to block out more than that. Most remaining numbers are part#s but there are several that are likely unique identifiers for the part. Anything not easily identified as a general part # needs to be removed. Notably the SIS chip for example.

      Microsoft if they are smart (and they are) for quality purposes is going to know the serial num/batch number whatever of every part that goes into that box. It helps them quickly identify bad batches which saves them money. It's all in the name of quality but it has wonderful secondary uses. :-) Now that said I will admit here is a chance they aren't doing this for the pre-production boxes yet though.

    5. Re:Wow! by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1

      Where's a +1 Paranoid mod point when you need it?

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    6. Re:Wow! by chrysrobyn · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Um hello. You need to block out more than that. Most remaining numbers are part#s but there are several that are likely unique identifiers for the part. Anything not easily identified as a general part # needs to be removed.

      Agreed. It is easy to imagine a database that tracks all the serial numbers together. Query against just one of those and you have the rest. Once you have the box's serial number, look up who got the machine and assess the need to punish the developer for violating the NDA.

      I'd bet these machines were not cheap to Microsoft. Hardware before launch is exceptionally valuable, certainly more valuable than the cost to develop simply because your factories aren't up to speed yet. One developer, as pictured, decided to take Microsoft's investment offline, away from game development and take some pictures. Maybe it's a 2 hour expedition that's to be done "off-hours" by employees on personal time so no project was impacted, but more likely the effects will last into development time-- it took longer than expected or something broke. Either way, it's an unnecessary pile of risks that tells Microsoft how much they value the machine and the NDA they signed.

    7. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously because this is part of MS' viral marketing, targeted towards geeks.

    8. Re:Wow! by Jim+Hall · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about? The serial numbers are blocked out:

      Not all of them, try this one.

      Who has dev kit #X806033-001 1792 // XEDK-1 Rev.A ... ?

    9. Re:Wow! by UnapprovedThought · · Score: 1

      Maybe the numbers were edited with Photoshop to frame somebody else?

  4. They plan on selling these chips? by Yocto+Yotta · · Score: 1

    Either these guys are in cahoots with Microsoft, or they are a bunch of idiots. The serial numbers are even left unobscured in the pictures. Perhaps both their budget for legal matters and stock of high-profile lawyers trump that of Microsoft's. Surely.

    I want to mod my Xbox 360, but I can imagine this will be one chip we won't be seeing anytime soon now.

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    1. Re:They plan on selling these chips? by selsine · · Score: 1

      I looks to me like the serial numbers have been removed from the screen shots. Unless I'm missing something?

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    2. Re:They plan on selling these chips? by Yocto+Yotta · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, looks like they are now. They weren't when the story first broke. Maybe they saw everyone coming from Slashdot and read the post of the fellow above me or my own. I mean that half-jokingly, but either way it seems the influx of traffic flipped a switch in someone's head that those should probably be removed.

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    3. Re:They plan on selling these chips? by selsine · · Score: 1

      Yeah, maybe the person who got them the XBox's saw that the posted the photos with the serial numbers in there and started freaking out.

      I wonder if someone at MS got the serials before they were taken off?

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  5. I can' t find it by MBraynard · · Score: 0, Troll
    Following in the traditional retarded tool method that Zonk usually follows in linking to a story that links to another tool, I can't find what is being talked about- just images? The offsite link is down and I can't find it anywhere on the chipmodders site.

    Full apologies to any retarded tools out there who are offended by me comparing them to zonk.

    1. Re:I can' t find it by NiteStar · · Score: 2, Informative

      smartxx removed the images from their server. mirror is available on http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEkVEuupVA hBWJPUsL.php

  6. Maybe I'm Cynical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But I tend to believe that they've done this at the behest of microsoft marketing department.

    I don't know that Bill wouldn't be smart enough to recognise the fact that the mod industry is far from hurting him but making his console more popular.

    Not really wanting to bring this debate up again thanks though, I am well aware of what others thinks on this matter.

    Back to the whole marketing thing. Think about it, slashdot has been inundated by 360 reports lately and things are drying up, so they release just a tad bit more information to keep people coming back.

    1. Re:Maybe I'm Cynical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where's the "-1 Retarded and Implausible Conspiracy Theory" mod when you need it?

    2. Re:Maybe I'm Cynical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know that Bill wouldn't be smart enough to recognise the fact that the mod industry is far from hurting him but making his console more popular.

      He did. You can change the faceplate to different colors. You can toatally mod it to match your outfit.

    3. Re:Maybe I'm Cynical by forkazoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or, maybe the motherboard design isn't finalised. They want the mod chip community to start taking notes, and coming up with prototype designs now, so that when the real-box comes out, they will have wasted lots of money and effort only to be able to mod the dev kits.

    4. Re:Maybe I'm Cynical by Chokai · · Score: 1

      Back to the whole marketing thing. Think about it, slashdot has been inundated by 360 reports lately and things are drying up, so they release just a tad bit more information to keep people coming back.

      Based on the pathetic amount of comments on this article obviously it isn't working.

      Seriously though I doubt MS wants this info released this far out from ship, where the design possibly isn't finalized (as someone else observed). Heck it isn't even time for Christmas marketing for a few weeks yet! :-P

  7. Re:Got list? by __aailob1448 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Hahaha, funny!

  8. Where there is 1 violation there is probably more by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I'm sure Microsoft's going to come down on the dudes for giving them a free blast on Slashdot.

    Where there is one violation there is probably more. When the XBox 360 is hacked it will not be due to some hacker working in a "clean room" environment. It will be hacked in cooperation with developers who have a legitimate copy. It would be prudent for Microsoft to be very concerned when any inappropriate access is granted to hardware or documentation. Microsoft merely needs to "make an example" of one company and/or employee to get the rest to take their NDA's more seriously. It worked for Apple, not perfectly, but it helped.

  9. pr0n? by magicRob · · Score: 0

    is this classed as XXXBox porn or XBoxxx porn?

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  10. How did they get them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As these kits are likely very expensive and not in abundance in a developer's offices, I just don't see how they could have walked off unnoticed. If a development studio NEEDS these things to work on Xbox 360 games, it seems odd that someone would sneak them out - it would hurt the company alot, and the cost to obtain them would have to have been alot. This leaves me with three possibilities: 1. They were stolen by the hackers 2. The hackers have A LOT of money and bought them off the developers 3. This is just a publicity stunt fabricated by Microsoft

    1. Re:How did they get them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      flame on

      Who the hell cares? What ever happened to trying to knock MS off their block? I'm so tired of everyone thinking that MS execs are mountain bikings gods. They are a bunch of nerds like you with a lot of $.

      Who cares if someone learned that the Xbox uses a proprietary FPGA for development, and gDDR2? Duh! Go ahead and try to even attempt at reproducing this.

      Oh, wait-- I forgot, all of you are all a bunch of layers. Whatever.