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NetBSD Summer of Code Summary

UltimaGuy writes "The NetBSD Project is pleased to announce the results of its participation in Google's "Summer of Code". After Google announced this program to introduce students to the world of open source software development at the beginning of June, the NetBSD Project was happy to join the approximately 40 other open source groups as a mentoring organization and compiled a list of suggested projects. I personally think the Project tmpfs: Efficient memory file-system as the most successful one."

20 comments

  1. So.... by baldass_newbie · · Score: 3, Funny

    Would this be their 'Autumn of Results'?

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    1. Re:So.... by nacturation · · Score: 2, Funny

      Would this be their 'Autumn of Results'?

      As long as it's not followed by a Winter of Discontent.

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    2. Re:So.... by peacefinder · · Score: 1

      And Springtime for Hitler is straight out.

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  2. Userfs by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seeing that userfs is still in early development, perhaps an effort could be made to unify the API with FUSE. Then we could develop filesystems in a way that is portable between Linux and NetBSD, and possibly others once they follow suit.

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    1. Re:Userfs by CyricZ · · Score: 1

      Perhaps some competition at this point would be a better idea. Let each group come up with their design and implementation, and then later compare the benefits and downfalls of each. Indeed, perhaps in two or three years a unified API could be developed. It would take into account the lessons learned from the two separate implementations.

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  3. SysV-type (init.d) subsystem control? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    [I'm probably behind the times and it already exists ... if so, then sorry, gimme a URL to it pls. :-)]

    Being a big-Unix person, I find the SysV approach to subsystem control through "init.d/blahblah {stop/start}" very sysadmin-friendly, so Linux has always got a big pat on the back from me for that. In contrast, the old *BSD approach has always seemed less helpful when you need to bring subsystems up and down regularly. One manages, but it's a pain.

    I guess I was hoping to see SysV-type subsystem control among the Summer of Code projects. It sure would be handy for sysadmins.

    1. Re:SysV-type (init.d) subsystem control? by rsax · · Score: 3, Informative

      The new rc.d system is equally sysadmin-friendly as the SysV equivalent. FreeBSD adopted it as well.

    2. Re:SysV-type (init.d) subsystem control? by Ezdaloth · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Indeed. I actually find the rc.d system much easier to use then the sysv-init thing. I tend to get confused by 6 directories with symlinks which have to be kept up to date instead of 1 configuration file.

      And frankly, i never use the different runlevels like you're supposed to anyways. I only ever start or stop single services, and reboot the system. I don't start different sets of services.

    3. Re:SysV-type (init.d) subsystem control? by Arandir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And frankly, i never use the different runlevels like you're supposed to anyways.

      I don't think anyone else does either. It's far more complex than the "problem" it was trying to solve. Somewhere deep within the bowels of Sun is a sysadmin who truly uses the SysV init system, but everyone else can get by with a far simpler system... like rc.d.

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    4. Re:SysV-type (init.d) subsystem control? by naddington · · Score: 1

      Nah, he was laid off years ago.

    5. Re:SysV-type (init.d) subsystem control? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ugh. Sys V Init. Easy to use, a bitch to set up. Init.d is both easy to use and less complicated as well. Everyone I know whos has used both, prefer the newer Init.d.

      That said, I believe that FreeBSD is undergoing a move to Apple's Launchd as it's supposedly even better, though I've no experience with it myself.

  4. UserFs Completion by msisden · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Let's do a run down:

    # still bare-bones
    # simple filesystem with some hardcoded files (which are modifiable) written
    # "The framework coughs but manages to avoid complete and utter defeat."
    # code not yet imported
    However, in the end: all SoC goals met ?

    That just seems...... off to me.

    1. Re:UserFs Completion by Flaming+Foobar · · Score: 2, Informative
      That just seems...... off to me.

      That's because you didn't read the goals. They were behind a link, so I'm not sure if they qualify as TFA.

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  5. I think I speak for the entire open source... by Refrozen · · Score: 2

    ...community when I say "Thanks Google."

  6. tmpfs documentation by Commander+Spock · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The tmpfs is a good project for many reasons, and one big one is because of the documentation. Documenting the "hows" of making a filesystem is something that I find fascinating.

    I once wrote a ramdisk driver from scratch on MacOS 7; it would have been nice to have enough documentation to actually write a new filesystem to use on it instead of HFS.

  7. Is it coding season already? by Sun+Tzu · · Score: 1

    The Summer of Code can only lead to...
    The Fall of programming progress...
    The Winter of endless loop hibernation -- a bitter code spell, indeed...
    And the Spring of 1000 bugs! (looks like time to gear up for another Summer of Code, eh?)
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  8. Requiem for the FUD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    // Please *don't* mod this up. It has already been done! Thx

    ... facts are facts. ;)

    FreeBSD:
    FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
    "FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
    Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
    "[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
    What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
    "FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."

    NetBSD:
    NetBSD, for When Portability and Stability Matter (Oct 2004)
    NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
    NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (Sep 2004)

    OpenBSD:
    OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
    Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)
    OpenSSH (OpenBSD subproject) has become a de facto Internet standard.

    *BSD in general:
    Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
    "The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
    BSD Success Stories (O'Reilly, 2004) (pdf) ~ from Onlamp BSD DevCenter
    "The BSDs - FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin, and others - have earned a reputation for stability, security, performance, and ease of administration."
    ..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)

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  9. SOC was good, I wish for more summaries by mattnuzum · · Score: 1

    I really like the idea of summer of code. I've been watching a few projects to see how they were doing. Unfortunately, few had any kind running progress and there really weren't many summaries.

    It would be cool if more would tell the world how things turned out. I noticed that some of the NetBSD projects didn't get completed in time. I suspect that some organizations might be afraid to summarize because they would show that the projects didn't get completed, but I say that's OK. In business some projects get started and then scrapped before completion; it's how life goes.

    But if there were more summaries out there, I think we could see more commercial organizations stepping up and taking an active and visible role in financing the future of interesting OSS projects.