Motorola Technical Documents for MESH Products?

jstrzalko asks: "Hello everyone! I am trying to port some MESH networks products to Linux, and am having a hard time tracking down the documents I need. No one at Motorola can seem to help me. Does anyone have access to the MN2064a data sheet (probably about 100 pages) or the interface document for the Motorola WMC6300? Any help would be greatly appreciated."

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Speaking of which...

[fm6]

Does anybody know where I left my keys?

Re:Speaking of which...

[Sinryc]

Psshh. Easy way to find out. http://local.google.com/

Re:Speaking of which...

[fm6]

I zoomed in all the way, but I still don't see them!

It's *not* the document he's looking for.

[HotNeedleOfInquiry]

He needs detailed technical specs, not a 2 page sales puff sheet. I know the link said datasheet, but did you take the time to actually download it and take a look?

That said, I doubt that he'll find what he's looking for online. Every wireless chip I've seen required a qualification and a signed non-desclosure before you could get tech info.

Good luck anyway.

Re:It's *not* the document he's looking for.

[obobo]

OT: Depends on the wireless arena... Chipcon has all of their datasheets available on their website for their 802.15.4 radios. Then again, 802.15.4 is a little more hobbyist friendly than the MESH stuff, looks like.

On second thought

[Anonymous Coward]

That link I posted doesn't lead to a 100-page file. Maybe he wants more than a data sheet.

OP, if you're around, perhaps you would care to give us more keywords, some that might only appear on page 50-100 of a 100-page document. Your Google skills are probably better than I implied in my last post, but still some of the slashdotters might have some good Google tricks.

Here's another too-short PDF on a different mesh networking product:

http://www.motorola.com/governmentandenterprise/co ntentdir/en_us/product/productdescription/mesh/dat asheets/MWR6300_Data_Sheet.pdf

Re:On second thought

[Anonymous Coward]

Sir,
Your helpfulness, while noble, is probably better left aside here, as you are a little out of your element here. A datasheet in the electronics industry refers to a specific document that will give you all the details about a chip, including pinouts, schematics, functions, wiring diagrams, applications, etc. For an example, look at the classic and basic LM741 Op amp http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM741.pdf Sometimes these are available on the web, sometimes they are proprietary and you need to sign a mountain of disclosures before you can acquire them. The one he is looking for, appears to not be available through any of the normal channels.

I'll be the first to say

[jhujoe]

*WHY* is this on Slashdot?

Re:I'll be the first to say

[EMeta]

While I am not particularly interested in the specific answer, I am quite interested in the methods other slashdotters would know to get at information of this sort. I doubt I am the only one who clicked upon the discussion for that reason.

That's why we come to ask slashdot; to see a discussion and pool general knowledge. If the answer turns out to be 'Sorry dude,' then even that tells me something.

As far as the question in point, [thinly veiled attempt not to get modded 'offtopic'] all I can suggest is looking into finding tech specs on other hardware your thing gets plugged into.

Re:I'll be the first to say

[Anonymous Coward]

Well, post the easily findable answer asshat, and then we'll see why it's a stupid ask /.

Of course since 99% of all ask /.'s can be answered by some determined Googling, and this one doesn't seem to be that easy, I can see why you are confused.

Re:I'll be the first to say

[Anonymous Coward]

One piece of advice that would have helped the original poster would be to time the story submission so that it arrives on Slashdot during the work week, not at the end of the day on a Friday. If I had been at work I could have searched the internal corporate intranet at Mot for the info. But as it is, by the time Monday rolls around, I doubt the OP will be checking back here so it's not even worth it for me to look around our intranet for the document.

This says nothing about whether the document is available for the public or not. That would be a separate question. The point is with this story, because of the bad timing, the OP's request for help isn't even going to get to square one.

Good Luck

[Anonymous Coward]

I used to work for Motorola, in a group that developed various bits of software (microcode, drivers, etc.) for DSP chips mostly. We had trouble getting specs for anything. Their document management was terrible/nonexistent. Most of the time, we didn't even know who to call to ask who might have said documentation. Yeah, we didn't accomplish much.

Supposedly it was all Motorola Israel's fault. They were the ones who developed the chips, and then never released any specs to anyone...

No one documents anymore

[heinousjay]

If it was hard to make, it should be hard to understand.

MOD PARENT UP

[dch24]

More than just "what he said:" as a kernel driver developer (linux) and as a professional working in just about any related field, there are a couple of huge holes in the way things are done right now.

A lot of good hardware is left on the shelf when I'm buying. Because if it doesn't have an open source driver (even a wrapper with a link-in binary portion a la nVidia) I make it a point not to buy it. I'll just regret it later, even if I'm just RFP for my employer (large government organization that buys hundreds of units). They'll come back to me later and say either "we decided to switch to linux" or "can you help us debug such-and-such obscure problem with hardware" ... if it doesn't have published driver source, that's already a bad sign.

Although I'm fine with source most of the time, sometimes I need a tech spec in addition to the source code. (sound drivers especially)

I'll be the first to say-Plug and Pray.

[Anonymous Coward]

"As far as the question in point, [thinly veiled attempt not to get modded 'offtopic'] all I can suggest is looking into finding tech specs on other hardware your thing gets plugged into."

I'm certain the specs for the vagina are out there.

Try USENET

[Sparr0]

This is the kind of question that belongs on USENET. Pick a [very] few relevant groups, ask for exactly what you need.

OLSR

[iamstan]

is the protocol for this kind of stuff http://www.olsr.org/

Re:Damned Kikes

[Alien Being]

Nu, why so angry my son? Have a knish, you'll feel better.

-shalom

Re:Damned Kikes

[Anonymous Coward]

How about you step into the ovens you hooknosed butcher?

My First Google Click

[Anonymous Coward]

It says you need to buy the hardware developer's kit(HDK).

I couldn't be bothered to click any further as I didn't want to over exert myself searching for it. I'll leave that to you.

have you tried

[way2trivial]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q= MN2064a+filetype%3Apdf+site%3Amotorola.com
the first result has a listing of Motorola Limited Jays Close, Viables Industrial Estate, BASINGSTOKE, Hampshire, RG22 4PD, UK email: mesh@motorola.com web: www.motorola.com/emea/mesh
  the second has the same contact info

the third has
  CONTACT INFORMATION
PHONE (407) 659-5300
FAX (407) 659-5301
EMAIL info@meshnetworks.com
MAILING Motorola
ADDRESS P.O. Box 948133
Maitland, FL 32794-8133
WEB SITE www.Motorola.com/mesh

taking the 'meshnetworks' and hunting on that domain I tried
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q= MN2064a++site%3Ameshnetworks.com which is no longer a valid website, but the cache has
"Hardware Developers Kit
The HDK includes all documentation and tools needed to evaluate and develop a wireless radio based on the MN2064A ASIC chipset. The HDK includes the following components:

Users Guide and technical Data Sheet
MN2064A Evaluation Board with documentation
Complete schematics and Gerber files for a prototype radio transceiver
IBIS simulation models
BSDL boundary scan file for manufacturing test
Product Information Sheet:
MN2064A Digital ASIC
Adobe PDF File

Need Acrobat Reader? Click HERE.


which gives us the name of the target file from the cache
www.meshnetworks.com/pdf/data_sheet_mn2064a_asic.p df

Now looking at
http://www.google.com/search?q=MN2064A+Digital+ASI C&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&filter=0
shows the developer kit for a # of countries which includes in part
"Users Guide and technical Data Sheet

MN2064A Evaluation Board with documentation"

Good Luck

good luck