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Zend Framework Released
banetbi writes "The new Zend Collaboration Project website is finally online. Included in the site is a completely new PHP Developer Zone and a pre-release of the Zend Framwork."
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The summary is short enough that you could have tagged on an extra line saying wtf zend is.
I just noticed the Zend Developer Zone is "powered by" the Zend Platform which claims it's "the only robust PHP production environment that ensures your applications run smoothly at all times."
I'll be sure to not tell all of my clients about it as they'll wonder what's wrong with the PHP builds we're running now.
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Cnet really tore apple a new one with that overhyping scandal.
This is damage control. No hype for zend.
Steve Jobs will not be caught overhyping again.
Or you're fired.
With PHP having OOP capabilities but with the vast majority of users still using procedural code, this was a must to not only get those developers coding to a standard but to also get them to upgrade to OOP and PHP5 in one fell swoop.
While I have been building MVC frameworks in PHP for awhile now for corporations, I'm still intrigued to see what Zend will provide. Will this be compiled into the engine? Are these C libraries or java API's that will handle the majority of these additional functionalities?
I'll probably download and play with it as soon as there is more info and documentation.
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Does this work with PHP 4? They mention PHP 5 specifically several times, but I seem to remember they were saying this framework would be backwards compatible too. This would be nice since most PHP sites are still running 4.x but gauging from their site (and their manual, and the download itself) it looks like they may have abandoned that idea.
Unfortunately, until PHP 4 is only used on a very insignificant number of sites, I can't integrate this into products without cutting off a significant portion of my potential users. I'd love to use things like Zend_Search and ditch the Java requirement altogether, but not without PHP 4 support.
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All right, so it is a 0.1 initial public realease, but given the at least 3 months it's been in development since the announcement and the two-sentence fuzzy roadmap statements, the framework doesn't look too promising so far. To say nothing of Ruby on Rails, there are at least a dozen modern MVC frameworks out there for Perl, Python, J2EE and yes, PHP, that are much further along and more importantly seem better thought out. If at this point the roadmap still doesn't speak in terms of things as basic as automagic mappings of controller actions to view templates, and assumes by default that views are in the same directory as controllers, I wouldn't be so sure the people working on this get what's got so many people diving into the new MVC frameworks.
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I always wonder how has PHP achieved so high market penetration. It is easy to introduce parsable errors like in Perl. It is slow, like Python. It can be unreadable, like Perl. Some custom extensions (mainly PECL) make shared hosts extremely exotic, like Python and Ruby. So no big deal. All of them, PHP, Perl, Python and Ruby have their disadvantages. Why is PHP so sucessfull while there are fully operational frameworks (like Catalyst) when PHP has unfinished Zend Framework or Seagull 0.x.x.
Don't get me wrong, I live from coding in PHP, but I always wonder, what happend to Perl, fully functional, backward compatible (mainly), extensible and proven language that can be used for building webapps either from scratch or with use of framework.