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OSL Gets Bandwidth Donation from TDS
kveton writes "The OSL is pleased to announce that TDS Telecom has donated 600 Mbits of connectivity in order to ramp up their mirror infrastructure. The projects hosted at the OSL can now upload to the mirrors co-located in the TDS facilities in Chicago and Atlanta via their main data center in Corvallis, OR."
You seem to have mistakenly assumed Gbit/s instead of Mbit/s!
600Mbit/s is not a huge thing to have.
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Yeah, you're right. It's 2:30am, so insert sleep deprived excuse here... On the other hand, that's still a $40million/year donation and that does seem more reasonable.
A 1Mbps line allows for about 1Mb multiplied by 86400 seconds per day, demultiplied by 8. This ends up at about 10GB of traffic per day.
Are you telling me that a 1Mbit per second connection cost upwards of $200 a day (located in the ISP's datacenter)?
No, I'm not saying that. But ever since they started capping home subscribers' broadband connection to anywhere between 10 and 100 Gig/month, some ISP's have started charging an additional $20 per GB. You probably won't hear much about it though, see all we're a pretty complacent culture here Canada.
That's still too much. I'd say by a factor of 1000 at least.
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Gigabit to Megabit is a factor of 1000... am I missing something?
$20 for an extra GB of traffic? Those are insane rates...
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..over here. Let me show you where.
Yes, your initial calculations assumed $20 / Gbyte of traffic. That is just unrealistic. By that measure even as a home user I'd be paying thousands of dollars a month.
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Is that how "tax write off" aka business expense really work in the USA? In Australia you can only "write off" the COST of an item, not its supposed sale value. An example is if you are painter and you donate one of your paintings "worth" $1million to a tax deductable cause, you could only claim the cost of the paint and canvas (you could not even claim salary without due amount of paper). However if you did manage to sell the painting for $1M and then donated the cash, then you could claim the full $1M amount (but then of course you would also have to register a $1M revnue from the painting). This is very important because it prevents people playing around with figures.
No, it's still unreasonable. an OC-3 (155 Megabits/second) can be had for $10-20,000 a month, so it's closer to $40-80,000 a month, $1 million/year max.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
I have 1 Gigabit just for a single laptop in my apartment (in Japan). Mind you, not that I ever really get to use it. My PC can't manage more than about 5% utilization before it starts thrashing its disk and grinding to a halt. P2P takes on a whole new dimension when you can download an entire divx'd DVD in 5 minutes.
They're going to need all that bandwith when they get slashdotted.
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Yep, quite suicidal.
2 years ago I had to do a study into real bandwidth costs for projected usage in the terrabye range (offsite backup).
We got a figure that came out about $1/GB falling to $0.50c in best cases. That was 2 years ago. I'm guessing the 'real' cost has quartered since, putting it at around 0.125c/GB
Ouside of the office I've noticed a trend amongst non-geek friends. People are much more saavy than we give them credit for. Geting stung for overbandwidth at exhorbitant prices just once is enough to radically change the habits of people.
People seem to understand bandwidth charges intitively by direct analogy to road tolls etc, so several times I've heard "wouldn't it just be better if I mail you a DVD?". In other cases I've seen people take their laptops physically around to anothers house or office to transfer over wireless.
I guess this is motivated by more than just money (perhpas fear/sensible security measures) since it's an open secret now that all ISPs are engaged in spying on users data.
Whatever the reasons this cannot bode well for a healthy internet.
Oregon State University students can host more pr0n than ever before!
Billed bandwidth rate is usually measured at the 95% percentile. That means that your carrier takes samples throughout the day of the current TX/RX rate, and throws away the highest 5%. The 95% highest sample is what you're billed for the month. This means you can briefly burst traffic, and be billed less than if you were billed at the highest (100%) rate.
So, 600mb/sec sustained (so that the 95% is 600) would work out to about 148TB. Even with 30% for headers, protocol overhead, etc, you're still talking ~100TB of data sent out (or into) the world.
Usual pricing for 1mb/sec is (in the San Jose area) between $200/$150 for low volume (1-5mb) customers. For those who buy many hundreds of mb, you can get a much better deal, certainly under 100$ a meg.
So, 600mb would cost about $600,000 a month, probably much less.
Yes you are.
1 Gigabit = 1000 Megabits
You said 600 Gigabits, which equals 600,000 Megabits, hence a factor of 1000.
And you have mistakenly assumed Mbit/s instead of... megabits.
It's bandwidth, not speed.
Possibly off-topic, but so many headlines recently use acronyms for things which are possibly unfamiliar, and don't provide a link on the Acronym to the homepage or an entry about whatever-it-is. Some of the stories are starting to look like the old joke, "You got a you-know-what from you-know-who, and you're supposed to take it to you-know-where by you-know when. Wink Wink. Nudge Nudge."
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It's nice to know that Jon Stewart is such a fan of bandwidth. Is he doing this so we can transmit more Bush jokes?
... and then they built the supercollider.
another day... another story about how amazing oregon is...
All good news, but, what happens when a new distro needs some hosting and bandwidth?
I've provided some limited hosting to a new distro (which I dare not mention here) and the cost of dealing with several hundred ISO downloads a day is pretty expensive.
Suggestions?
OSU should set up some decent bit-torrent or IRC server. Let see how many simultaneous connection that link can handle!!
If you buy a commitment for several hunderds of Mbit/s the price drops to about $10 per Mbit. But ofcourse it also depends on where your traffic is going and what service level you want
Gee, that was really cheap. Most of us use more than 600Mbit in a few seconds. OHHHH! perhaps you meant Mbps, not Mbit......
> some ISP's have started charging an additional $20 per GB
What?! It'd be cheaper to buy the damned movies at that price. Uh..I mean...post...letters...to my grandma.....
I would kill for that much bandwidth... (and we're talking "-9" and everything here, too!)
Creative misinterpretation is your friend.
The place where my server's colocated charges me EUR0.65/GByte, and I'm pretty sure that this is not all that cheap (but this is irrelevant for the amount of bandwidth I use).
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Wow...
For some reason, I don't exactly know how you can get price of 200$ per mbps... But mind you, you can easily buy from cogent/he.net at price near 10-15$ per mbps... You can grab some correct quality bandwidth near 20-35$ per mbps... But thoses are official sales prices... It probably cost way less to the company...
Are you serious?
That is totally unreasonable pricing! Here in Stockholm i can get 100 mbps broadband for 419 sek/month (less then 60us$). If i want a fixed IP-adress to set up a server, it costs 200sek/month (less then 30us$). This includes any amount of transfer.
You're still off. Bandwidth can be had at an average of $30/mbit (sometimes higher, sometimes lower) -- if your commit level is high enough. That's $18,000/month for 600Mbit. Barely even CLOSE to the numbers people are projecting. These guys aren't going out and buying some crap-ass OC3. Nobody would be fucking with something that small at a commit level that high...
To all the posters claiming this a gift of hundreds of thousands of dollars to millions of dollars per month -- you're wrong. 600mbit is a decent commit level, and in a true datacenter, they'll be able to provide that without blinking. Depending on the quality of bandwidth (aka, who people peer with), it will cost them between $20 and $40 per mbit/sec. They don't charge by how much traffic you move. At this level, they don't care if you transfer 50GB or 500GB, it's all about how fast you move it. They would normaly bill customers at the 95%, not by overall transfer stats. That means these guys can push 600Mbit/sec inbound and outbound 24/7, and nobody will care. Of course, this is one hell of an amazing gift. It's just not nearly as high as people are claiming it is.
They donated a fast mirror to Sun Freeware, which makes all of us Sun jockey's breathe a little easier.
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What does the Ontario Soccer League need with all that bandwidth?
nothing
My district just got our 20mbps line put in and this thing flies. I download at around 4 megabytes per second. Thats a 100meg file in under a minute. Very generous and hope its used well.
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I agree the summary should have more context ...
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OSU OSL is Oregon State University Open Source Labs.
This is a project that manages infrastructure (machines, bandwidth) for many open source projects.
Their list of projects include Debian, Drupal, Gentoo, Mozilla and others
So, it is really good news, since the longevity of these projects are better (not that they were in danger or anything).
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OSI has been colo'd at TDS for over 6 months, this all happened last summer.
I work for TDS Telecom as tech support in Madison, WI.. for the record, TDS Telecom SUCK as an ISP, trust me on this one. TDS Metrocom isn't nearly as bad but twice as disfunctional.
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So, 600mb would cost about $600,000 a month
Is that millibits, or mibilibits?
can you guess where i work?