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E3 Previews - Assassin's Creed and Mass Effect

In a sea of sequels, there are a number of original titles standing shoulder to shoulder with already-classic games. Two of those being demo'd at this years E3 are Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed and Bioware's Mass Effect. After the demo shown onstage at the Microsoft event, folks were understandably underwhelmed with Assassin's Creed; though the stalking and chase mechanic seemed fascinating, combat seems overly simplistic and numerous bugs caused some hiccups. Just the same, the idea behind the game remains tantalizing, and we still don't know what the deal is with the sci-fi background. On the other hand, despite an equal amount of hype and hope, Mass Effect looks to be meeting every expectation. Finally Bioware is letting folks play the game hands-on, and there are still few frustrations to be found. From Joystiq's analysis: "We were shown the basic in-game talk interface: get near another character and hit the A button to start talking. You can direct the flow of the conversation, by selecting your responses with the left thumbstick, choosing from a radial menu. For instance, if someone is telling you about an attack, you can pick things like 'Too bad they didn't kill you' to 'I'm sorry' to 'Really? What happened?' They aren't exactly what your character will say, they're more like the gist of it ... It reminded us a bit of the chat in the Indiana Jones games, although those gave you the actual lines that Indy would spout out. Conversations are crucial to Mass Effect, and end up providing you with information and shape your relationships with those characters."

19 comments

  1. Mass Effect Target Demo? by MBraynard · · Score: 4, Funny
    Conversations are crucial to Mass Effect, and end up providing you with information and shape your relationships with those characters.

    So this is a chick game, like Viva Pinata?

    1. Re:Mass Effect Target Demo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You've never actually played a Bioware game before, I take it?

    2. Re:Mass Effect Target Demo? by Doctor+Crumb · · Score: 1

      It's got evil robots, alien planets, skintight spacesuits, vehicular combat, and lots and lots of guns. I don't recall viva pinata having any of that; did you install a mod?

      Beyond that, it's still a Bioware RPG, which means that you'll actually want to pay attention to the story and the conversations. Especially with the voice actors they've got lined up (Seth Green, Lance Henriksen, Keith David, etc).

  2. Forgive me my cynicism... by CaseM · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...but that gamespy.com Assassin's Creed piece reads like someone at Microsoft or Ubisoft did an "OH SHIT" because of the poor on-stage demo and then shoveled a fluff piece toward one of their nearest media outlet lackeys to "get out the word" that it wasn't as bad as it seems.

    Seriously, it's not like these game sites really have a choice. Play along to a (great) extent or get shut out of press events, pre-release information, etc. Information access is their bread and butter.

    1. Re:Forgive me my cynicism... by Salmar · · Score: 1

      Microsoft has been notoriously bad at on-stage demos...

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  3. Gameplay Demos by I'll+Provide+The+War · · Score: 3, Informative

    Gamespot had both games in their office for demo [Jade Raymond was demoing AC :)] They have a twenty minute video of each on their E3 site. (Check the Wednesday tab).

    http://e3.gamespot.com/live.html

    1. Re:Gameplay Demos by antic · · Score: 1

      Assassin's Creed looks really good (like Splinter Cell, which I liked, mixed with Prince of Persia:TT, which I also liked save for the idiotic way you couldn't invert the Y axis properly). However, there seemed to be a few glitches in the demo - the floating body, and some framerate issues.

      Something I've long wondered about - if you run your character into a wall continuously or slowly into another person, couldn't they come up with a more realistic reaction? In the AC demo, after the guard shoves him away, he walks slowly into someone in the crowd - not hard enough to brush them off or bounce back - I just think they could surely set the head to move or look as a reaction? Otherwise, it's just one of those things that breaks your immersion in the game a little.

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    2. Re:Gameplay Demos by Das+Modell · · Score: 1

      I'll watch anything with Jade Raymond in it.

      The Gamespot demo reveals a lot of interesting stuff about the game.

  4. Mass Downgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another developer trying to pass off bogus UE3 renderings just Gears of War tried to pull.

    Actual gameplay looks like crap. And AC keeps looking worse and worse with every release of new media for the game.

  5. No demo no purchase by grapeape · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The comments from Ubisoft this week that they had no intention of creating a playable demo pretty much killed any enthusiasm I had for Assassin's Creed. In the days of broadband and no disk needed demos, there is just no real excuse for not having one. The only thing that comes to my mind is the way movies that refuse advanced screenings for reviewers generally do it to prevent anyone from knowing how bad a movie is before its released. What we have seen of it has looked great, but so does every Michael Bay trailer. Without a demo I can only assume that either the game lacks depth and variety so if you spend ten minutes with the demo you have pretty much experienced it all, or its just lacking in general. Hopefully I'm wrong but this just guaranteed I wont buy it until I see some reviews.

    1. Re:No demo no purchase by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why would you waste time creating a demo when you are trying to get the game done?

    2. Re:No demo no purchase by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      What he said.
      The project merely started the debug phase and while most of the content is there, the backend mechanics are quite complicated and debugging the whole thing is quite an ordeal. Honestly, a live demo wasn't a good idea at this time, I find... As for a personal released demo, it might very well happen, just not before release because of priorities. Focusing on the whole package is more important than making a demo right now, especially when there are still a few bugs as graphically alerting as floating corpses.

      Assassin's Creed just doesn't lend itself to an interesting live demo like was done at the Microsoft Conference because it has a slower pace than, say, Halo.

      Trust me, a demo really isn't out of the question. In fact, having your hands on the controls lends itself to be a much more satisfying experience than a *really* accelerated walkthru as seen during the presentation. Nobody wants to play a demo with floating corpses though, so it is worth being patient and hoping a demo is released right after the final submissions instead of being dissapointed that a demo isn't being released right away.

    3. Re:No demo no purchase by Aladrin · · Score: 1

      While I had no interest in Assassin's Creed to start with, I agree about your attitude about demos. Any major (ie: hyped/marketed) game that can't be bothered to put out a demo is probably not worth buying.

      Most of the smaller games like Katamari Damacy and Shadow of the Colossus don't get a demo and and great games, but that has more to do with budget and manpower. They don't have the money to make the hype-engine work, and they dont' have the money for a demo.

      I'm guessing someone will say that demos don't really sell games, and I'm proof against that. Both Prey and Overlord were games that I had very little interest in, and tried the demo only because there was hype. Prey I rented (and I'm still considering buying) and Overlord I bought. There have been others, but those are recent.

      As for reviews... They're SO hard to believe any more. Fansites like GameFAQs tend to have reviews from either fanboys or haters with very few balanced reviews, and the major gaming sites are all paid off, whether or not they even admit it to themselves. To make it worse, the gaming sites generally just stick someone on the game regardless of their playstyle, and most of the games I love get reviewed by someone who doesn't even like the genre.

      In the end, I end up finding the negative reviews and deciding if the things they hate will make me hate the game as well. If the complaints are trivial, and not one of my pet peeves (ie: Transformers, the robots 'run too slow') then I get the game anyhow. (They don't run too slow, anyhow. I'm not sure why they wanted robots to run at insane speeds by default. That's what vehicle mode is for.)

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    4. Re:No demo no purchase by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was no demo for gears of war. Look how that turned out. It might be the most popular Xbox 360 game out there.

    5. Re:No demo no purchase by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shadow of the Colossus and Katamari Damacy both had demos in OPM.

    6. Re:No demo no purchase by DataBroker · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why would you waste time creating a demo when you are trying to get the game done?


      You would make a demo because the true goal isn't to get the game done, it's to profit. The way to profit is to sell merchandise (the game) when the margins are higher. So, if you want to sell the game to me when it hits the shelves, rather than when it's in the clearance bin, get me interested in it with a free demo.

      I personally am interested in the game, but won't drop $60 on it unless I can try it out myself. I'll just wait until it hits $20-$25 used (note that used nets you no profit either).
    7. Re:No demo no purchase by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing someone will say that demos don't really sell [game], and I'm proof against that. Fixed.
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  6. Assassin's Creed demo rushed by atomicstrawberry · · Score: 3, Informative

    According to CVG the reason that the Assassin's Creed demo was a bit buggy and underwhelming in the press conference demonstration was that they were asked to show it off at last minute because Bungie were unable to get a single player demo of Halo 3 ready in time.

  7. Strangly, Assassin's Creed had most G4 buzz at E3 by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    So something must be going on, since more people are interested in it than are admitting to it publicly.

    Maybe it's like the Sims - some don't want to pretend they'll buy such games, but they do.

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