Slashdot Mirror


A Belated Halloween History - Monsters Edition

uriah923 writes "Nick Dilmore has published the second edition in his Snarky Halloween History series, featured on Slashdot last year. This time around, he concentrates on movie monsters: vampires, werewolves and zombies. From the article: '[D]id you know the movie monsters we've all to come to know and love (in a platonic way, of course) have colorful histories stretching back to the earliest civilizations? What, you didn't think some Hollywood hack actually had enough imagination to invent vampires, werewolves, and zombies, did you? Silly, silly non-monster-trivia knowing person.'"

24 comments

  1. news for nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    how exactly is this news? or stuff that matters?

    1. Re:news for nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't

      They just want to try to make Hollywood look dumb while they are at it.
      Even though most of this stuff has been common folklore.

      Remember '300' the movie, well you didn't think they thought of it themselves.

    2. Re:news for nerds? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      "how exactly is this news? or stuff that matters?"

      No no no, it's Slashdot's uptime is our downtime.

      --

      "I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)

  2. Wow! by trickyrickb · · Score: 4, Funny

    I always though slashdot invented trolls!

    1. Re:Wow! by 0232793 · · Score: 1

      Yes, there is a society of them: http://www.anti-slash.org/

  3. note to self by trickyrickb · · Score: 0

    thats why they have a preview button!

  4. Yeah... by Caalador · · Score: 0, Troll

    From TFA:

    So what have we learned? Vampires shouldn't have been all that scary, what with their fascination with counting games. Werewolves were probably just really, really twisted freaks who thought blaming magic belts and salve would somehow not earn them a spot on the burning stake. And zombies may actually be real. Throw in the fear of witches, fairies, and evil spirits and it's a wonder our ancestors ever got any sleep at night. Must be how alcohol was invented.

    Our ancestors probably didn't have the governments terrorizing them!

    1. Re:Yeah... by geezer+nerd · · Score: 2, Funny

      Our ancestors probably didn't have the governments terrorizing them!

      What? You don't watch Robin Hood on TV? Just look what that evil sheriff does to his people!

  5. Yes, we know by the_womble · · Score: 3, Interesting

    did you know the movie monsters we've all to come to know and love (in a platonic way, of course) have colorful histories stretching back to the earliest civilizations?
    I suppose a completely ignorant illiterate might not realise that these monsters are based on folklore.

    Someone who did some basic research, rather than just reproducing what Wikipedia says, might could even have written an intersting article about the subject.

    This article deserves to be eaten by the Snark - one monster that is not based on folklore!

    1. Re:Yes, we know by orangesquid · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Folklore, definitely. But, folklore as most people think of it is a pretty simplistic notion. There's a lot more to the culture and beliefs of our ancestors. paganlibrary.com has some interesting things on Halloween and, also to some extent, our modern monsters (primarily: see Witch's Thoughts, All Hallow's Eve, Origins Of Halloween; also useful: Death of Llew, Derivation of the Word "Witch", Wiccan Sabbats, the (mildly humorous) Public Service Announcement, and perhaps /phpBB2/viewtopic.php?=&p=52511 -- they all show up within the first 30 hits.)

      (defining) Halloween: A pagan holiday perpetuated by the American Dental Assoc.

      {insert obligatory HAIL ERIS ALL HAIL DISCORDIA ... obligatory for me, at least!}

      --
      --TheOrangeSquid Is it any wonder things seem so awry? We swim in a sea of confusion and don't have to think to survive
  6. Re:W00t first post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2nd post ! ! ! ! ! this is such an exciting post everyone is rushing to post to it !!!! truely news for nerds stuff that matters ! ! !" ! !

  7. And welcome to SlashFark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Where we post stories that have nothing to do with either Science or Technology.

    1. Re:And welcome to SlashFark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the first link goes to a science and technology site - better luck next time.

    2. Re:And welcome to SlashFark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Specious - the first link goes back to an article on Slashdot last year...but then the links at the side can take you to plenty of other 'science and technology site's

      so to sum up:

      this is year old news for nerds
      stuff that doesn't matter and isn't science or technology

  8. for those too lazy to read the entry by 0232793 · · Score: 1

    "Nick Dilmore has published the second edition in his Snarky Halloween History series, featured on Slashdot last year. This time around, he concentrates on movie monsters: vampires, werewolves and zombies. From the article: '[D]id you know the movie monsters we've all to come to know and love (in a platonic way, of course) have colorful histories stretching back to the earliest civilizations? What, you didn't think some Hollywood hack actually had enough imagination to invent vampires, werewolves, and zombies, did you? Silly, silly non-monster-trivia knowing person.'"

  9. Meh ... belated by Ralconte · · Score: 1

    If belated doesn't disappoint you, Retrocrush updated their top 100 scary movie scenes -- http://retrocrush.buzznet.com/scary/

  10. Lame and uninformative... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    I'd say more, but I am aiming at a homage to the TFA here.

    --
    Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
  11. recommended reading by hey! · · Score: 1

    Food for the Dead: On the Trail of New England's Vampires by Michael Bell, Rhode Island's state folklorist.

    He makes a pretty good argument for the origin of the vampire legend being in the spread of tuberculosis in isolated farming households. The first victims die, then one by one other family members begin to waste away, often resulting in the extinction of the entire family. However, don't let this scientific explanation turn you off, the stories are creepy enough, only it's the living, not the dead, whose are the gruesome ones.

    --
    Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
    1. Re:recommended reading by grumling · · Score: 1

      I always thought it interesting that we use fairy tails as stories to help children sleep. The big, bad wolf used to keep children from approaching strange animals, The witch in the candy house luring Hansel and Gretel to their death (don't talk to strangers 'lest you be put to work in the mines), and the others. Seems a little quaint these days, but yet we still tell them.

      And then there's the whole TV news myths of inner city violence to keep people in the suburbs.

      --
      "Well, good luck finding a judge that doesn't run a bestiality site."
  12. Do the editors think we are morons? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    did you know the movie monsters we've all to come to know and love (in a platonic way, of course) have colorful histories stretching back to the earliest civilizations? What, you didn't think some Hollywood hack actually had enough imagination to invent vampires, werewolves, and zombies, did you?


    Do the editors think we are morons? Or was this article just posted so anyone with an IQ > 60 could rip this loser a new one?

    I think the fact that I'm about comment #13 on a seven-hour topic says it all...
  13. Origin of Halloween according to Jack Chick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Devil's Night.

    Read it, if you dare... try not to drink anything, you might spit it out at your monitor.

  14. But wait.... by porpnorber · · Score: 1

    The thing I find amazing is quite the contrary: the incredible number of people who seem to think that vampires are in some sense 'real.' Now, I don't mean that they seriously think that the most likely thing to have happen to them in a back alley after midnight is that they get their throats bitten, but in the sense that they will have arguments about whether vampires 'really' have reflections or are 'really' stopped by running water—as if there were at least a cultural tradition to refer to and discuss. While in fact, as far as I know (and confirmed by TFA, FWIW), the entities they are discussing were lately invented by Bram Stoker and embellished by Hollywood and, more recently, White Wolf.

    That's right, the whole thing was made up in 1897, and (according to Wikipedia, anyway) is the same age as institutional fingerprinting and the Boston subway.

    <tongue-firmly-in-cheek>If I were American, I might think of Boston as 'one of our earliest civilisations'—but the London underground was there first.</tongue-firmly-in-cheek>

  15. know and love by MECC · · Score: 1

    the movie monsters we've all to come to know and love (in a platonic way, of course)

    Speak for your self...

    --
    "We are all geniuses when we dream"
    - E.M. Cioran