ApacheCon Europe'08 Live Video Streaming

os2man writes "ApacheCon Europe 2008, the official user conference of the Apache Software Foundation will be held 7 April through 11 April in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Some of the tracks will be broadcast via live streaming: System Administration (Wednesday), Web Security (Thursday) and Web Services and Web 2.0 (Friday). There's a 99 euro registration fee for the tracks, although all keynote sessions and the opening plenary are available free of charge."

Comments

Bittorrent

[electrosoccertux]

We need to start coming up with more legitimate uses of Bittorrent, because "My favorite Linux Distribution" isn't going to be enough to keep legislation/judges ruling Bittorrent illegal because it's "filesharing"

This is a great way to do it, offer all the keynote sessions on bittorrent.

Until now we've had a few bands release their album on bittorrent, and that's about it.

Re:Bittorrent

[SimHacker]

Here's a practical, legal use of BitTorrent:

I'm developing a system for TomTom to distribute digital maps (on the order of 1 or 2 gigabytes each) via BitTorrent. It will save a lot in bandwidth costs, because we distribute millions of maps over the internet. By their very nature, digital maps work well with BitTorrent because people in the same geographical regions all want to download the latest map of their region at the same time.

I was very happy to hear the announcement from BitTorrent and Comcast, that Comcast wouldn't be fucking with BitTorrent streams any more, because that would interfere with our customers' legitimate use of the internet services and content they're paying for.

-Don

Re:Bittorrent

[Adambomb]

You mean like the World of Warcraft Patch system or, more recently, CBC Television's release of a show using bit torrent? Its happening slowly but surely, and the more who do so and see the benefits the more that will.

Plus i'm sure your first responder there is not alone in making use of bit torrent for legitimate commercial applications.

Re:Bittorrent

[electrosoccertux]

Not good enough in my opinion. Why? Because CBC, and ESPECIALLY Blizzard, would probably not put a up a fight. It'd be cheaper for them to just pay the extra bandwidth.

Re:Bittorrent

[Adambomb]

except CBC is already putting up a fight against Bell's throttling through the current bent on stories they're running. You can be damned sure blizzard would fight to the death if p2p legislation or traffic shaping started impacting their profits in a measurable way.

where can i get what you smoke by the way?

Korsakoff's Syndrome

[SimHacker]

If you're going to be in Amsterdam for ApacheCon, here's something fun to do at night, to keep from getting bored:

The Korsakoff is by far the best place in Amsterdam to find long haired freaks like Linux programmers and system administrators, with great music and wild dancing. It's at Lijnbaansgracht 161, clockwise from Leidseplein, open every night, till 4:00 AM! I had a great time there last night -- it's best on Friday and Saturdays of course.

Korsakoff Syndrome: Korsakoff's syndrome (Korsakoff's psychosis, amnesic-confabulatory syndrome), is a degenerative brain disorder caused by the lack of thiamine (vitamin B1) in the brain. The syndrome is named after Sergei Korsakoff, the neuropsychiatrist who popularized the theory.
There are six major symptoms of Korsakoff's syndrome:
1. anterograde amnesia and
2. retrograde amnesia, severe memory loss
3. confabulation, that is, invented memories which are then taken as true due to gaps in memory sometimes associated with blackouts
4. meager content in conversation
5. lack of insight
6. apathy - the patients lose interest in things quickly and generally appear indifferent to change.

-Don

Evidence of the underlying point in your argument?

[jbn-o]

Please don't impose your ignorance of what BitTorrent is used for on all of us. Some of us know that the protocol is used for plenty of legal distribution. Also, about this notion that the protocol will prevent "legislation/judges ruling Bittorrent illegal", can you name instances where this has happened?

last game I bought I got through Bittorrent ...

[Lazy Jones]

You can already purchase software (yes, legally - from dlgamer) and download it through Bittorrent, as long as the client supports the necessary authentication method. Bittorrent has long grown up and has many legal uses, it just takes a while for people to realize (even slashdot users it seems).

Re:last game I bought I got through Bittorrent ...

[electrosoccertux]

Perhaps slashdot could use a submissions detailing how far bittorrent has come, that covers all the latest in legal uses of bitorrent, so we can go use them.

I download linux torrents just so I can spend 24/7 uploading them, just to prove bittorrent has good uses.

Nice Error

[oZZoZZ]

Nice spelling error "Offcial" on the front page. Pro move ApacheCon!

Online snooping -or- Why doesn't Apache drop http?

[Anonymous Coward]

After all the deep packet sniffing and related news, I hope they will decide to drop http altogether and make new versions of Apache interpret the relevant configfiles as if https was intended. If after the next update all Apache servers were to switch to https, that would make online snooping a lot harder.

offiical content list

[orpheus88]

what is the content of keynote sessions ?ãi wanna see itï¼OEif the apachcon has a official content list?

Firefox Plugin?

[Doc Ruby]

Is there a Firefox plugin that runs an actual torrent client, actually downloading the chunks in the background and not just browsing the tracker?

If BitTorrent were just another protocol Firefox handled, along with HTTP, FTP, etc, and people didn't even need to know they're downloading "a torrent" any more than we need to know we're downloading a GIF, or JPG, or MOV, or WMV, BitTorrent use would skyrocket, the way that HTTP skyrocketed on the popularity of integrating it with a browser for the more popular (at the initial release time) protocols like FTP, and even disappeared ones like gopher and WAIS.

In fact, the increased download performance would probably make Firefox even more popular, as people switched to it because it could handle the torrents that other browsers (IE) don't.

If someone could write a complete torrent client that's entirely embeddable in an HTML page (and doesn't require the browser to have any special torrent support), that could grow even faster. Though that kind of packaging isn't as easy to use (and not accidentally abort) as one that downloads in the background, and doesn't quit when clicking away from its page.

Re:Firefox Plugin?

[Anonymous Coward]

Opera already does this and has for several versions.

Therefore, Firefox will probably pick up on it soon, if someone hasn't already written such an extension.

Re:Firefox Plugin?

[SimHacker]

Both BitTorrent DNA and Red Swoosh have JavaScript APIs for starting, monitoring and controlling BitTorrent downloads. The actual BitTorrent client runs in a service process, which you talk to through "http://127.0.0.1:port#".

The JS libraries just rewrite the URL of the file you want to torrent so it goes through the proxy. They also allow you to monitor and control the progress of the downloads via a ReST interface to the proxy that returns json or xml.

The JS libraries both support putting links into the page that are automatically rewritten to download via BitTorrent. You can use the status monitoring interfaces to display a progress bar and give the user feedback about the download process.

Another approach is to develop an XPCOM plug-in that wraps one of the bittorrent libraries like libtorrent. That gives you a lot more direct control over the library from JavaScript. But I think it's safer to have all that complex code and volumous data running in its own separate process, and not bloating up and slowing down Firefox.

Talking to the BitTorrent client in a separate process via http makes it very easy to use from JavaScript, and that does not bloat or slow down Firefox itself.

-Don

Re:Firefox Plugin?

[Doc Ruby]

Well, I haven't even used BitTorrent much, because every time I've tried, it's been extremely slow. So I'm not the right one to write such an app - though I'd be one of those who'd use it if it were fast and easy. BTW, is there a good commandline client for Debian/Ubunutu that does nothing but quickly download the file when I pass the .torrent URL on its commandline?

I'm also not familiar with the programming model you describe. Would I have to manually install one of those javascriptable libraries on my PC, then hit a remote Web page that includes the Javascript in its HTML that would start up their external process, which would run in the background? Would they notify me in a GUI when complete (or had exceptions, and show status)?

I might not write this project's code, but I'd like to use it, and to understand how it could work. Or at least get an explanation someone else can use to write it for us :).