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NASA Opens Space Image Library

slatterz writes with an excerpt from a brief PC Authority article: "NASA is to make its huge collection of historic photographs, film and video available to the public for the first time. A partnership with the non-profit Internet Archive will see 21 major NASA imagery collections merged into a single searchable online resource. The NASA Images website is expected to go live this week. The content of the site covers all the diverse activities of America's space program, including imagery from the Apollo missions, Hubble Space Telescope views of the universe and experimental aircraft past and present." The site is working already, and it looks fantastic. Don't hesitate to share any interesting pictures or movies you find.

105 comments

  1. hopefully they'll start from the beginning by beanerspace · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is great, my only hope is that they start with the older stuff first.

    I've got some old 8x10's my father would bring home - he was an engineer at NASA's Goddard Spaceflight Center from the beginning of the space race through to the Jupiter probe.

    Now I have these wonderful images I can share with my young daughter of what an old computer looks like and the slide-ruled people who ran them.

    I know I'm gushing, but this is going to be great in so many ways, as along with some spectacular shots of space - we'll also see down-to-earth images of the culture at the time that cannot be expressed even in 1000 words.

    1. Re:hopefully they'll start from the beginning by eclectro · · Score: 3, Funny

      we'll also see down-to-earth images of the culture at the time that cannot be expressed even in 1000 words.

      Obviously

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    2. Re:hopefully they'll start from the beginning by rts008 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I hope that they can find the missing tapes. :)

      I am not only a NASA brat, but also worked at GSFC circa 1976-1976 for Bendix as a sub contractor at the NTTF facility there.
      Neat stuff happening then, and now.

      Hopefully your daughter can experience the 'cool, awesome, and wow' factor we went through...that job sparked my interest in astrophysics even though at the time I was working in Logistics fresh out of my high school.

      Long before I was old enough to think beyond 'Wow-cool- ASTRONAUTS!!-I loved 'playing' in the Mercury and Gemini capsules when I went to work with Dad before I was old enough to be hired there. (circa 7th grade I think)

      Dude! Talk to your Dad with your Daughter present. That was a great time for the Space Race!
      Don't quash her spirit or ambitions....feed them instead!

      I would not be surprised if my Dad had not known your Dad.

      Rock on dude!...don't deny your daughter, but encourage her.

      P.S.
      This post hit me out of the blue so to speak...and I have been drinking,...But give your daughter all of the facts and guide her in her discoveries and provide her with the facts.

      Astrophysics is an interesting and growing field now days. Help her out in the right direction! (my humble opinion-end lecture)

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    3. Re:hopefully they'll start from the beginning by Teancum · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My father worked as a photographer for a NASA (& DOD) contractor and had access to a rather large set of high resolution photos that came from space as well. One of them was a high resolution image of the whole Earth taken at the Equator that shows nearly the entire western hemisphere. I think it was likely a weather satellite photo, but the resolution is simply outstanding as it is an actual photograph.

      This photo, BTW, is now above my son's bed and has become a family heirloom.

      My only regret was that I didn't get any more of those images, but in defense of my father a great many of those images were classified secret or top secret. I'm amazed what he brought out of that place and showed me as it was.

    4. Re:hopefully they'll start from the beginning by unlametheweak · · Score: 5, Funny

      The flag in that photo looks like it was Photoshopped.

    5. Re:hopefully they'll start from the beginning by unlametheweak · · Score: 0, Troll

      You sound like one of those carefully planted shills sent out by NASA to convince people that the moon landings were real. Great straw man :)

    6. Re:hopefully they'll start from the beginning by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      hopefully they'll start from the beginning

      I'm still waiting for the picture of the Big Bang. Until they show that, I'll believe the theory is a hoax.

  2. Amazing picture by Negatyfus · · Score: 1, Funny

    I just went there and already found this. I can't wait to find more.

    1. Re:Amazing picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I found this...
      "Irregular Moons Discovered Around Uranus"

      'nough said...

    2. Re:Amazing picture by Negatyfus · · Score: 1

      Oh, nice one! :)

    3. Re:Amazing picture by unlametheweak · · Score: 1

      I only see a black screen with some links to the side.

    4. Re:Amazing picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enable javascript.

    5. Re:Amazing picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should really change the name of that planet.

    6. Re:Amazing picture by iminplaya · · Score: 1

      I know I'm going to hate myself for asking, but where's Uranus?

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    7. Re:Amazing picture by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Between Saturn and Neptune, orbit wise, about 2.8 billion kilometres away from the sun. Get yourself a copy of kstars, or starry night, or some other astronomy program if you need further details.

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    8. Re:Amazing picture by unlametheweak · · Score: 1

      That's the point. I shouldn't have to. It's lame if I can't view a site because of poor design philosophies or principles. Some people decide to have navigation JavaScript oriented to impress their boss or to look keen or to introduce exploits. Their is no need or excuse to have poor Web design.

    9. Re:Amazing picture by unlametheweak · · Score: 1

      BTW: NO, I will not enable javascript. Fuck them. Like some Web sites insist that you can only view their content with Internet explorer, and some sites (a vast minority) insist that you can only view their sites with Firefox, I build my sites to test if Javascript is enabled, and if it is enabled then I give instructions on how to dis-enabled it so that they can view the content on my site.

      Best regards,

      UTW

    10. Re:Amazing picture by unlametheweak · · Score: 1

      I remember reading somewhere (probably before the [populous] Internet revolution, I'm thinking early or pre-1990's) that astronomers changed the official pronunciation of "Uranus" to make the "a" in "Uranus" short or unstressed. This was done for obvious reasons.

      From Wikipedia:

      The preferred pronunciation of the name Uranus among astronomers is [jrns], with the first syllable stressed and a short a (rns);[34] this is more classically correct than the alternate [je.ns], with stress on the second syllable and a "long a" (rns), which is often used in the English-speaking world.

    11. Re:Amazing picture by unlametheweak · · Score: 1

      Off hand (in the vague recesses of my memory) I believe Steven Hawking mentioned that in the Brief History of Time. Maybe not, but Google isn't helping me here and I don't want to download (search for) a PDF version (to do a word search) just to validate my assumptions.

    12. Re:Amazing picture by iminplaya · · Score: 1

      Um, I meant in the picture. All I saw were a bunch of tiny dots. And surely, I expected a more snappy answer to a stupid question. You're no fun.

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    13. Re:Amazing picture by unlametheweak · · Score: 1

      Quick note:
      I just visited a Web site (linked by a Slashdot member no less) saying that:
      "It looks like you need to upgrade your browsers Flash Player."

      It's a presumptuous and arrogant statement on behalf of the Web designers. Web designers can choose to make their Web sites multimedia friendly without the Bullshit. The ones who decide not to I have no sympathy with.

    14. Re:Amazing picture by scottrocket · · Score: 1
      "I know I'm going to hate myself for asking, but where's Uranus?"

      On the flip side of your venis.

    15. Re:Amazing picture by iminplaya · · Score: 1

      Best answer so far. Thank you. It's just that I couldn't find it in the picture. Maybe that's a good thing.

      She's got it
      Yeah, baby, she's got it
      I'm your Venus, I'm your fire
      At your desire

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  3. Rover tracks by CmdrSammo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I really like this image showing the rover tracks leading back to the Apollo 14 Lunar Module "Antares".

    How anyone can look at this image in particular and claim the landings were faked is beyond me. It's a wonderful image, let's just hope we'll be back there soon to take more!

    1. Re:Rover tracks by Negatyfus · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's obviously shopped. I mean, the shadows are way off. I could do that in MS Paint.

    2. Re:Rover tracks by miraboo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Come on mods this is funny, its xkcd ( http://xkcd.com/331/ ). And as we know this is slashdot and allusions to xkcd automatically go to +5.

    3. Re:Rover tracks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Needs moar lensflare

    4. Re:Rover tracks by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Informative

      I really like this image showing the rover tracks leading back to the Apollo 14 Lunar Module "Antares".

      Apollo 14 didn't have a rover. Those tracks would have been made by the MET (Modular Equipment Transporter).

      The LRV was first flown on Apollo 15 and IMHO was about 1000 times more effective than working without a rover.

    5. Re:Rover tracks by CmdrSammo · · Score: 1

      Yeah my bad, I knew I had it wrong when I looked a little closer at the image and saw giant footprints nearly filling the space between the tracks. Next time I'll read the caption before posting to /.!

    6. Re:Rover tracks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Q.E.D.

    7. Re:Rover tracks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not the rover, the rovers were on 15-17. This was more like a high-tech wheelbarrow.

      http://www.nasm.si.edu/collections/imagery/Apollo/AS14/a14met.htm

    8. Re:Rover tracks by laejoh · · Score: 1

      It was a soundstage on mars!

      I'm more of a 202 or 307 kinda guy :)

    9. Re:Rover tracks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really like this image showing the rover tracks leading back to the Apollo 14 Lunar Module "Antares".

      Apollo 14 didn't have a rover.

      Doesn't that automatically mean it's fake?

    10. Re:Rover tracks by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      I bet you could tell by the pixels.

      BTW, I resent image retouching being referred to as "photoshopping". I've done some really cool retouching with Paint Shop Pro (version 9 before Corel acquired it and totally ruined it).

      Of course, it could be worse... it could be called "Gimping"...

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  4. The race is on... by jdh41 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ... to find a galaxy which looks likes goatse.

    1. Re:The race is on... by krkhan · · Score: 1

      Nasa is to make its huge collection of historic photographs, film and video available to the public for the first time.

      Obviously this news is fake. I mean, they can't possibly think that goatse is not historic, right?

  5. I hear that they have... by MrKane · · Score: 0

    ...an entirely separate datacenter and ip range,
    just for the conspiracy theorists.

  6. Taking bets on accidental UFO exposure... by Adeptus_Luminati · · Score: 1

    Ok, I'm taking bets on how many days before NASA slips up some contraversial picture that raises questions about UFOs. You know, like some of these interesting NASA pics.

    Hmmm, I wonder if volunteering photos will make, hacking NASA a little less likely going forward.

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    1. Re:Taking bets on accidental UFO exposure... by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, I wonder if volunteering photos will make, hacking NASA a little less likely going forward.

      SK: Do you have a copy of this? It came down to your machine.
      GM: No, the gr aphical remote viewer works frame by frame. It's a Java application, so there's nothing to save on your hard drive, or at least if it is, only one frame at a time.
      SK: So did you get the one frame?
      GM: No.
      SK: What happened?
      GM: Once I was cut off, my picture just disappeared.
      SK: You were actually cut off the time you were downloading the picture?
      GM: Yes, I saw the guy's hand move across.

      He can write a Perl Script and he hasn't heard of printscreen? Or, ya know, a digital camera? Video out?

    2. Re:Taking bets on accidental UFO exposure... by rhyder128k · · Score: 1

      Take into account the over enthusiastic claims of a water finds that NASA has made in the past. I am of the opinion that if they had photo that in any way looked like might be proof of extra terrestrial life they would display it far and wide. Same goes for any anomaly that would increase people's interest in space.

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    3. Re:Taking bets on accidental UFO exposure... by blincoln · · Score: 1

      You know, like some of these interesting NASA pics

      Do you have to be wearing the sunglasses from They Live in order to see the UFOs in those pictures? In a few of them (maybe 1/4 or less of the images) there are bright spots whose source isn't immediately obvious. In the others, I was left scratching my head. I could only assume that in many of them, the site's owner was trying to say that the sun/Earth in the sky or one of the background hills was a UFO.

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  7. These images aren't correct... by Puffy+Director+Pants · · Score: 5, Funny

    They photoshopped out the Aliens and the Moonbase and the spot where Superman had a fight with that evil blond guy.

  8. Good riddance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Don't let the door hit you on the way out... The site was stunning.

  9. Thank you NASA by node159 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I always found that the images from Voyager 1 put our insignificance in perspective. This is a wonderful thing for NASA to do and I hope it will inspire many of current and future generations.

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    1. Re:Thank you NASA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. We are NOT insignificant, we are created by GOD an blessed by the LORD, and this is an EVIL thing for NASA to do. To suggest otherwise is HERECY and i hereby profess that they should be BURNED at the stake!

  10. Poor image quality on more recent images by Coolhand2120 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    These images are amazing! I'm curious why all the 'newer' images are always low quality (small). I know they have larger, higher quality images, and I've seen some of the larger images on the JPL and NASA site, however, the large images are usually older missions and there are quite a few poor images, Mars rover mission for instance, that are obviously smaller versions of the original. I hope I'm mistaken and these full resolution images are available, but I've looked pretty good and can't seem to find them, so if there there it's not obvious where they are. Can anyone enlighten me?

    1. Re:Poor image quality on more recent images by david.given · · Score: 5, Informative

      The old images were taken on real photographic film, which was then brought back to Earth and developed. Hugely expensive due to having to ship all that mass around, and only feasible at all on sample-return missions, but the quality is superb. The new images are taken using digital cameras, JPEG compressed, and transmitted back using the Deep Space Network; as a result, the quality is much lower. (On the other hand, shipping photographic film back from Mars is a little beyond our technical expertise right now.)

      It is possible to take high-resolution pictures from Mars, but it's not done very often because it takes too long --- a couple of weeks for a decent panorama; dozens of low-resolution pictures need to be taken, transmitted back, and then pieced together (mostly by hand). It's far more cost-effective to use low-resolution pictures. At that distance bandwidth is the main limitation; they've just been upgraded to a 256kbps connection, and the DSN only listens to them in short windows.

      This is less of a problem for spacecraft nearer Earth; JAXA's Kaguya lunar probe can send back HDTV video, for example, although still not live.

    2. Re:Poor image quality on more recent images by Coolhand2120 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What you're saying makes a lot of since. I didn't know the connections were so slow or intermittent. But even at 256kbps you should be able to download quite a few high resolution images, especially considering the amount of time they have had. Even with JAXA's Kaguya probe, they only released low resolution (low dimensions 800x600 for example), I only looked at the images when they came out a few months ago, but they were very small, maybe they released higher resolution images now.

      This is a baseless guess, but I figured there was some monetary value attached to the full resolution image, and they were just waiting to auction it off to the highest bidder. And if that's ever been the case, seems like a publicly funded organization like NASA ought to act more like a library and less like the gift shop at Disneyland. I don't know they do that so it's just a suspicion, not trying to make accusations. It's not baseless though! We (the people) pay for the roads and sidewalks, but that does not stop the government from making parking meters.

      I hope you're right and I'm just paranoid.

    3. Re:Poor image quality on more recent images by wsloand · · Score: 2, Informative

      It is not monetary value it's scientific value. Generally the scientist who is has the rights to the telescope time (or who has helped design or run the mission, etc.) has rights to the data for a limited time (I think it's 6 months). After that time the images are released for the (scientific) general public. The difference here is that it's put into a form that the really general public can access the materials.

      No reason for paranoia in this case that I'm aware of.

    4. Re:Poor image quality on more recent images by GrAfFiT · · Score: 1

      Nasa imagery is public domain, as are all photographic works from the US government. See their statement. Wikipedia is very grateful for this.

    5. Re:Poor image quality on more recent images by Pollardito · · Score: 1

      it could be that they've anticipated an early rush of traffic and held some of the larger items back in order to keep the traffic somewhat under control

    6. Re:Poor image quality on more recent images by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On that film vs. digi cam bit, even the most crude disposable film cameras produce along the lines of 20 megapixels if I remember correctly while the most expensive OTS digital cameras are in the 12-13 megapixel range.

  11. Resolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I did not RTFA but will they upload those awesome images in higher resolution? It would be the best wallpaper site on the web...

    Dammit captchas.

  12. WOW! by Projectuprising · · Score: 1

    I look forward to wasting much time on the site looking at all the amazing sights!

    1. Re:WOW! by ATL_gadget_grrl · · Score: 1

      Yep. My Saturday's pretty much accounted for, now. In short, this is impressive as hell.

    2. Re:WOW! by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Yep. My Saturday's pretty much accounted for, now. In short, this is impressive as hell.

      Mine's not. You all have slashdotted the site, you insensitive clods. Now I have to go back to work.

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  13. Remember by hyades1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In spite of all the criticism, much of it deserved, something like this reminds us that NASA has had its share of triumphs. I hope they start to find their way again.

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    1. Re:Remember by Turiacus · · Score: 1

      This fascination for their past (Apollo) is not a good sign. They are so stuck in their old ways that at some point it might be best to turn NASA into a museum and build a new space agency.

      If you want some light reading, try the paper available here. It offers some illustrations of the inertia of the agency and of the damages it causes.

    2. Re:Remember by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      Thank you very much for the link. It's now living in the "Revisit" folder in my Bookmarks.

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  14. Finally by Xelios · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One of the things that always annoyed me about NASA is that so little media gets released. You read news articles boasting how one of their probes has taken thousands of pictures, and maybe 10 of those ever get released to the general public. The public funds NASA, and I think a site like this can go a long way to convincing people that this funding is worth it.

    HiRise is pretty cool too.

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    1. Re:Finally by Tom90deg · · Score: 1

      Well, the problem is that 90% of the photos are crap. And by that, I mean, overexposed, not centered in the shot, cut of or what have you. I've heard that National Geographic photographers consider it a good day when one out of 100 photos they've taken is good enough for NG.

      Also, from a far more cynical point of view, do you really think NASA is going to give out the crappy out of focus pictures, or the crystal clear ones that inspire people to give them more money?

      Remember, NASA has a budget of something like 1% of the Military budget. They can't afford to have public opinion go against them one inch.

    2. Re:Finally by Teancum · · Score: 1

      In defense of NASA, a great many of those photos have been released... at least for current space probes. A great deal of what you are complaining about here has to do with the distribution of those images and not necessarily a secret conspiracy by NASA to withhold these images from the public.

      All it takes is a little more digging to find those images you want.

      What is frustrating is for photographs that weren't originally digital imagery, where often a rather lousy job of digitizing the media took place that may have been good by computer standards of 20 years ago, but look awful today in comparison.

      Another problem, at least for some of the very early NASA probes, is that the file formats were often created explicitly for that mission alone and are completely incompatible with modern graphical file formats. If the data was preserved properly AND somebody bothered to write a good conversion utility that didn't lose too much information in the process, you might have some good photographs. But that is a huge if. I've seen some people with real expertise in media formats be able to clean up some of these early photos with enhanced image processing techniques that turned out better than what the originally publicity photos of the era looked like. That still takes somebody with the patience to pound out those images, however.

    3. Re:Finally by swimsaturn · · Score: 1

      It is true that a very small percentage of images are processed and released to the public (usually accompanied by a press release caption). But if you dig, you can almost always find that the raw images are available. The vast majority of images are unspectacular, and really not worth processing (color correction, etc) and putting in a press release. As I graduate student, I briefly worked on a project using ALL of the Voyager images of Saturn's icy satellites Mimas and Tethys. Most of the images were lousy: out of focus, too dark, too bright, too far, etc. Out of all the images, I'd estimate about 2% were useful for the project.

    4. Re:Finally by blincoln · · Score: 1

      If the data was preserved properly AND somebody bothered to write a good conversion utility that didn't lose too much information in the process, you might have some good photographs.

      It would be nice if NASA were willing to give the public a shot at the raw data for the files in formats that they don't have decoders for.

      I've reverse-engineered proprietary image formats before for fun. I'm sure there aren't many people who do that, but I know I'm not the only one.

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    5. Re:Finally by Teancum · · Score: 1

      I've done some reverse-engineering of multi-media data formats (including some very obscure formats), and it can be quite frustrating.

      I wouldn't mind a poorly scanned data format document put into a PDF that you could plow thorugh and then have access to some of the raw data files as well. I've seen some spectacular results for some enhanced processing of the Venera missions to Venus, where about 10%-20% of some of the images that were presumed to be corrupted data revealed some usable data. That is the kind of thing I would love to see "open sourced" when clearly NASA doesn't have the manpower to devote to these kind of efforts.

      Unfortunately, some of the data files were analog on those older probes, and recorded on either audio or video tape machines with unusual standards even for those kind of recording machines. That kind of data processing could use some real help, but it would take a professional archivist with years of experience to be able to extract the data effectively.

    6. Re:Finally by deglr6328 · · Score: 1

      Excuse me, why is the above twaddle modded up to a +3? This person obviously has not spent the better half of a single second actually looking for the images they decry as being "unreleased". Because if they had, they would've found even the most casual perusal of the websites for any of the recent space probe missions turns up TENS OF THOUSANDS OF RAWIMAGES for each one. Your incompetence in locating EASILY accessible information from NASA websites isn't their fault.

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  15. Page absolutely and totally broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Everything the site shows are two links.
    One how to enable javascript and one how to
    enable javascript in firefox.

    I do not get it why people think their site is
    important enough to execute code from them.
    And then give no explanation of their inability
    to write proper webpages, but instead just instruct people how to enable javascript, without
    giving an warning that this might be against their computers security guidelines and even a reason to get fired....

    1. Re:Page absolutely and totally broken by neumayr · · Score: 1

      So you're attempting to browse NASA's gallery from your employer's computer and are afraid of being fired for turning on javascript? ;)
      This actually is the best web gallery I've seen so far, can anyone suggest an opensource work-/lookalike web gallery software?

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  16. Bummer by Daimanta · · Score: 4, Funny

    No pics of the studio where they filmed the moon landing :(

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    1. Re:Bummer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, those are here:
      http://web.archive.org/web/20000410002943/flybyfoy.com/Foybits.html

      (That is, there was a studio, with an LEM and some rocks, but no, they didn't fake it)

    2. Re:Bummer by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      I already posted one picture here, but they did not allow taking photographs, so the guy had to draw it from memory.

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  17. Lost in Space by Whiteox · · Score: 1

    Hey cool! I've always wanted to find the background image of the end titles for the original Lost in Space series (colour version).
    I wonder if it's not too old. I believe it was taken around 1959?

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  18. Great - An Image Of Freshly-Crapped Pants by strelitsa · · Score: 1

    http://www.nasaimages.org/luna/servlet/detail/nasaNAS~5~5~20520~125573:Apollo-17-Astronaut-Training

    Guy standing in the white Boeing suit, near right center edge of frame. Thanks heaps, NASA.

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  19. Re:Great use of tax payer money by rbanffy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Discounting the racist tones of your message, if any population's youth is really determined to kill itself, the government should step out of its way and let nature do its job.

    If those kids kill themselves before reproducing, any genetic tendency to aggression they had won't be passed to future generations. Unfortunately, it's expected that overly aggressive populations with high mortality rates in young ages will, given enough time, develop suitable mating behaviour that allows them to reproduce sooner.

    Evolution has its own agenda, you know.

  20. Ready-made searchable archive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since the NASA images are public domain, they could have saved themselves the trouble of setting up their own website by loading them to this media archive.

    1. Re:Ready-made searchable archive? by strelitsa · · Score: 1

      At least they didn't make you go through an FTP site to get to them. After all, this is the US Government we're talking about here.

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  21. Yes, but... by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 1

    ... I doubt they'll shwo the alien pictures too.

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  22. This would make the best t-shirt ever by iminplaya · · Score: 1

    You are here

    With the exception of the spacecraft we sent out, and RF from our radio and TV, everything about us is on that tiny little grain of sand

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    1. Re:This would make the best t-shirt ever by iminplaya · · Score: 1

      Sorry about this, but I gotta add that this should remind us how insignificant we are, and that we are living out our lives like those kids in "Lord of the Flies"

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  23. Will these go into Google Sky? by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 1

    I wonder how hard and useful it would be to merge these photos into Google Sky. They probably don't have exact coordinate info... or do they? ... and maybe Google already has deeper pictures, but wow, if all Hubble photos could be stitched together and made available with such a great interface, that would be awesome.

  24. Annual NASA Greatest Hits Commemoration by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    I've been advocating for publishing those archives for many years, since about 1991 when I met a NASA archivist at a Unix conference in San Jose, CA. I'm very pleased to see these archives opened for public use.

    What I wanted since 1991 was to see NASA actually mail through the USPS a CD-ROM (later a DVD) once a year to every American household (minus those who mailed them back, postage free, opting out). A "greatest hits of 2008" etc, that would be collectible, useful for school assignments, and just a beautiful document. Free of charge - driving home the point that we'd all already paid for this work by NASA.

    I'd have mailed them all to arrive just before the Income Tax Deadline, so people could see where their taxes were funding America's most inspiring work.

    Maybe Archive.org can spur something similar, and at less cost. Like a "greatest hits contest", which lets the public make "playlists" of NASA content, judged by public voting influencing a celebrity panel or something (like American Idol). Then NASA or Archive.org could burn DVDs of the winners, selling them as "commemorative" to raise money for the project, or even proceeds earmarked to specific NASA projects the public wants to further subsidize.

    So far my original idea now seems quite consistent with NASA's plans for its archives. Maybe my more specific ideas for them would also be timely and welcome.

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  25. Apollo 11 and 17 Landing Videos by florescent_beige · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I browsed quickly through the site and didn't see any video.

    Two of my very favorite things to watch, and I could literally sit and watch them over and over for weeks are the Apollo 11 and 17 landing videos.

    NASA has placed online full video libraries for both Apollo 11 and Apollo 17. *

    The actual Apollo 11 landing is here (16 minutes).

    The actual Apollo 17 landing is here (4 minutes).

    The Apollo 17 video will send shivers up and down your spine I guarantee it.

    * Most unfortunately, the videos are in Quicktime(tm) format. If you, like me, use Windows, go here to get Quicktime. If you have NoScript, disable it for that page because there is a script that autodetects your OS. Download the most basic player and uncheck all options because Apple tries to install all sorts of incredibly annoying nag- and crap-ware. Also make sure you do not select auto-update because thats another level of nagging to upgrade to a paid service. Finally, use Spybot to disable the Apple updater in your startup list.

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    1. Re:Apollo 11 and 17 Landing Videos by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      If you, like me, use Windows, go here to get Quicktime.

      Quicktime is horrible. I recommend QuickTime Alternative using the superb Media Player Classic. Just goes to show that Microsoft and Apple haven't done one good thing to media player UI in the last 10 years.

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    2. Re:Apollo 11 and 17 Landing Videos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have Linux, Mplayer plays this with no problems. I am watching it on Kubuntu using Mplayer.

    3. Re:Apollo 11 and 17 Landing Videos by florescent_beige · · Score: 1

      I wasn't aware of the player that is recommended on the nasa.gov site: VLC:

      http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

      I tried it out and it works well for me so I got rid of Quicktime.

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    4. Re:Apollo 11 and 17 Landing Videos by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      I never used VLC on Windows but it's my player of choice for Linux.

      Good for them, recommending something that works. The players from the big boys are all horrible. They have no interest in supporting each other's formats, and none of them work very well and they all look horrible. It's gotten almost as bad as it was before ActiveMovie came along.

      The people behind VLC and MPC understand people just want to watch the damn videos. They don't need some stupid "environment" forcing advertising or links to irrelevant and stupid content that you "might" be interested in. And most important (Yes, I'm talking to you Microsoft) they understand that the UI is there to allow you use the software and should be as full-featured and unobtrusive as possible. Throwing out decades of UI standards and behavior for reasons of style was stupid when it began in the late 90's and now it's just embarrassingly inexcusable. But once again, it's a matter of seeing the tools you provide as tools to do things (in this case watch movies) or as a means to force your audience into certain kinds of behavior and somehow "entertain" them in and of themselves.

      In so many ways, software is getting worse, not better.

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  26. While I appreciate that they are saving the past by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    I wish that they would spend more on the future.

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  27. Aliens by Old+Duck · · Score: 0, Troll

    I wonder if they will make the pictures of the aliens available? After all, they know about them!

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  28. This is so bad ass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    USA!
    USA!
    USA!

  29. Slashdot effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow even nasa isnt safe from the effects of slashdot: NASA Images is experiencing high load, please wait 30 seconds and reload.

  30. First time? Really? by skelly33 · · Score: 1

    I mean really, really? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I know a NASA photographer who has been working there for darn near 40 years now and I've always understood that the entire photo library has always been freely accessible. I believe this is the first time they might be available over the INTERNET, but to the "public"? No more so than the public library is off limits because it is not published online. Anybody know better of this?

  31. Audio Archive? by Wasabi+in+my+Pants · · Score: 1

    Is there a NASA audio archive available anywhere? I've been looking around, but have only found a few sites with a small number of audio clips. Having an Apollo moonwalk on my ipod would be sweet.

  32. It's Overloaded Already (Slashdot effect) by brewmaster64 · · Score: 1

    The top page opens OK, but so far haven't been able to access anything else. "NASA Images is experiencing high load, please wait 30 seconds and reload."

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  33. Oh, back in the days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Started my days in the McDonnell Spacelabs, where Mercury and Gemini were built. Dad always said he'd get a computer when the NASA archive was available, since his tax dollars paid for it. Convinced him to get a TX-Instr. tape-drive machine, and a Commie-64, so he could do his tax returns, and then he got himself a Mac, one of those obnoxious non-alterable deskblobs. Still have it in the basement. Might be museum-quality.

    Won't touch the archives unless and until They quit the quicktime bs. And I've multiple degrees in astrophysics/physics/materials. How dare they?
    We paid for it once, already.

    We run sid in this house; I'm the caregiver, and no proprietary formats are tolerated.

    They will hear from me.

  34. Compression by Rebelgecko · · Score: 1

    I was able to get to look at a picture from a direct link someone posted even though the site was going very slow and downloaded a neat picture. For some reason, the jpeg file was in a .zip, so the "compressed" file was actually a bit larger (about 4 KB) than the actual picture, making the extra compression kind of pointless. Maybe that's why they're getting slashdotted so badly!

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  35. if only it was new content by heroine · · Score: 1

    It's another packaging of the 160x120 videos they already have online. Now if they threw in the word "cloud" and some community sections, they'd have something.

  36. Did they get an NOAA license for this? by Hackerlish · · Score: 1

    The NOAA takes its licensing claims very seriously. It's far more lucrative that ocean and atmosphears stuff. No. paperwork is where the real future lies. http://www.licensing.noaa.gov/

  37. nice pic by mydream114 · · Score: 1

    This nice picture was taken by the veteran astronaut who recently claimed aliens exist. May be he saw something up there on the moon?