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Compressor-Free Refrigerator On the Way

Iddo Genuth writes "Scientists from Penn State University are designing the future of refrigerators and other cooling devices through magnetic field refrigeration. The investigation pertaining to electrically induced heat effects of some ferroelectric polymers might one day replace electrically powered refrigerators and their compressors and coils. The researchers are focusing on ferroelectric polymers that exhibit temperature changes at room temperature under an electrical field. The same technology might also find its way into computers and other devices in the future, making them run cooler without complex cooling mechanisms."

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  1. Dupe by ShadowRangerRIT · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/10/2237223 And the first summary had more details.

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    1. Re:Dupe by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 1

      Oh great, and now my comment is a dupe too. Curse you, ShadowRangerRIT!

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    2. Re:Dupe by spun · · Score: 4, Funny

      Congratulations! You have won the 'Find the Dupe on Slashdot' contest! To collect your prize, send your social security number, current address, and bank account information to me, the head of the International Find the Dupe on Slashdot contest. I will send you this lovely dinette set, a copy of the home game, and a NEW CAR!

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    3. Re:Dupe by allaunjsilverfox2 · · Score: 1

      I would but I need you to deposit 500 dollars into my bank account so I may save my sick king from a terrible plague! Oh the woe! Oh the agony! Oh the need for non traceable funds!!!!!!!

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    4. Re:Dupe by Daimanta · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is a new feature on Slashdot. The same article is rehashed again and again each time using less and less information. Eventually the title will be "stuff" and the text will say "this matters". Furthermore it will be tagged with every previous tags and will cover every previous discussion on Slashdot ever.

      Then ????????

      Then comes the singularity.

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    5. Re:Dupe by Egdiroh · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wow slashdot's amazing, if you are to be believed and this is a dupe to an post made on 08/10/2008, then slashdot can see the future of the internet because the article linked to in this post is dated 09/11/2008. Freaky.

      Don't dismiss new articles on previously covered topics out of hand. If you read what the ancient greeks wrote about the sky and stopped there, you would be pretty ignorant about the things we've learned since.

      This isn't a dupe. It's a new article about a topic that has previously been discussed, and that's what your comment should say, instead of just calling it out as a dupe. Because by that logic your comment is a dupe because other people have posted other dupe comments for other topics.

    6. Re:Dupe by mweather · · Score: 1

      Don't dismiss new articles on previously covered topics out of hand.

      Unless the previous article was from 2 days before the new one and covers nothing new.

    7. Re:Dupe by dgatwood · · Score: 2, Funny

      Congratulations! You have won the 'Find the Dupe on Slashdot' contest! To collect your prize, send your social security number, current address, and bank account information to me, the head of the International Find the Dupe on Slashdot contest. I will send you this lovely dinette set, a copy of the home game, and a NEW CAR!

      Oh,no, I fell for that once. I'm not falling for it again. You know what they say, fool me once, shame... shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again.

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    8. Re:Dupe by ajrs · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is a new feature on Slashdot. The same article is rehashed again and again each time using less and less information. Eventually the title will be "stuff" and the text will say "this matters". Furthermore it will be tagged with every previous tags and will cover every previous discussion on Slashdot ever.

      Then ????????

      Then comes the profit!

      Fixed that for you.

    9. Re:Dupe by ShadowRangerRIT · · Score: 3, Informative

      I did read the linked article (albeit only skimming). It adds nothing to the original Slashdot story, since it is using the Penn State news item from the original Slashdot story as a source.

      Perhaps I shouldn't have called dupe. After all, it was an inferior summary of a month old article. "Cheap knock-off" might be more accurate.

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    10. Re:Dupe by Valdrax · · Score: 1

      So that's how Ford is moving SUVs off the lot these days.

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  2. How energy efficient is this? by mlts · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, there are other ways to cool without a compressor, but they are in a lot of cases nowhere as energy efficient as the tried and true way of compression/evaporation. For example, peltiers can do cooling, but they take a lot more power and produce less temperature differential than the standard methods.

    1. Re:How energy efficient is this? by VeNoM0619 · · Score: 1

      Wasn't there also something called microwaveable Ice Cream? I remember hearing about it, but a quick Google shows nothing. It was where you stick it in the microwave and you got cold ice cream. What health problems it caused I couldn't imagine.

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    2. Re:How energy efficient is this? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

      Yes, there are other ways to cool without a compressor, but they are in a lot of cases nowhere as energy efficient as the tried and true way of compression/evaporation.

      It's ok - we only need one case of a technology that's as efficient as compression-based refrigeration (so long as it does as well or better in other important criteria.)

    3. Re:How energy efficient is this? by tchuladdiass · · Score: 1

      No, it was a microwaveable milkshake. Basically a completely frozen milkshake that got partially thawed in the microwave.

    4. Re:How energy efficient is this? by drgould · · Score: 1

      Wasn't there also something called microwaveable Ice Cream?

      You may be thinking of thermoacoustic refrigeration.

      Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream funded some research at Pennsylvania State University to develop a thermoacoustic chiller for their company.

    5. Re:How energy efficient is this? by mrdogi · · Score: 1

      I vaguely recall an article on /. some years ago about a different way that, again as I recall, was about as efficient as physically possible. It had something to do with using electrons being jumped across a vacuum barrier to carry the heat away. Anybody have any idea what I'm talking about? Or, what the status is of that technology? Just did a quick Google search, and nothing looked like what I am thinking of.

  3. Dupe by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 1, Redundant

    This is a dupe from August 10th. Sorry guys.

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  4. Asimov was right by WhiteDragon · · Score: 1

    now it just needs to be atomic and fit in the palm of your hand :-)

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    1. Re:Asimov was right by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

      But what if you forgot to take the fridge out of your hand before using the urinal? The results wouldn't be pretty.....

    2. Re:Asimov was right by MiniMike · · Score: 1

      The results wouldn't be pretty.....

      But the results might be pretty cool....

  5. More importantly, by CSMatt · · Score: 1

    Where's my reverse microwave oven?

    1. Re:More importantly, by Anomalyst · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just file down the large prong to fit in the narrow socket so you can plug it in with reverse polarity.

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    2. Re:More importantly, by JebusIsLord · · Score: 1

      DO NOT TRY THIS. You'll build a time machine, not a reverse microwave!

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  6. Magnetic cooling for computers? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah... you go ahead and use magnets to "cool" your computer. Let me know how that works out. For our younger readers: holding magnets close to food doesn't turn the food into a useless brick, but holding a magnet near a computer will probably do that.

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    1. Re:Magnetic cooling for computers? by dannycim · · Score: 1

      Not at all. For example. hard disks these days contain a voice coil which includes VERY strong magnets, and pretty darn close to the platters too.

      See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_coil

    2. Re:Magnetic cooling for computers? by NemosomeN · · Score: 4, Funny

      For our older readers: This is no longer the case.

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    3. Re:Magnetic cooling for computers? by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 2, Funny

      For our younger readers: Stay off of my damn lawn!!

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    4. Re:Magnetic cooling for computers? by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      When has this EVER been the case? Back in the days of the reel/reel tape drive? I have used magnets (powerful, unshielded speakers) very close to computers since I started using computers (15 yrs ago with a commodore C64) and have never had the misfortune of a failure due to magnetic interference. Now I did have more than one monitor get a little fuzzy due to the polarization of the screen, but that was back in the CRT days (before they had degaussers, which is actually another interesting hole in the magnetic interference argument.)

      So, where is the kernel of truth in the magnetic mayhem myth? Or, do I have to wait for this to appear on Mythbusters?

    5. Re:Magnetic cooling for computers? by davidwr · · Score: 1

      For our younger readers: holding magnets close to food doesn't turn the food into a useless brick,

      For our older readers: This is no longer the case.

      Ah, that explains why the Twinkie I left next to my pile of old hard drives broke my teeth.

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    6. Re:Magnetic cooling for computers? by Stewie241 · · Score: 1

      I would say that it is true for floppy drives, but probably not so much for hard drives.

    7. Re:Magnetic cooling for computers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just didn't have the magnet close enough.

      The trick is to place the magnet inside the hard drive.

    8. Re:Magnetic cooling for computers? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

      For the "magnets dont affect computers" replies, please slap some refrigerator magnets on your hard drives, CPU, etc. and tell us all about the results, if you insist it doesn't do anything then what's to fear in the test?

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    9. Re:Magnetic cooling for computers? by ulatekh · · Score: 1

      When has this EVER been the case?

      It's current. Being the Sony guru at the company, I remember being asked to look at a co-worker's PlayStation 2 devkit that was mysteriously not working. He had it sitting on a subwoofer. I told him to move it far away from the powerful magnet. He looked at me like I was from Mars. We moved the devkit away from the subwoofer and it immediately started working.

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    10. Re:Magnetic cooling for computers? by sexconker · · Score: 2, Informative

      Kraft Singles American cheese.

      Unwrap, insert into floppy drive while it's still cool.

      Perfect fit.
      Impossible to eject.
      Your "friend" will notice it when he tries to insert a floppy, or when it melts.
      Hilarious.

      If only Kraft made 12 cm discs of cheese...

    11. Re:Magnetic cooling for computers? by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      Did that have to do with the fact that the PS2 dvd laser was a horribly flawed design and could barely read discs on a GOOD day? I have three playstation 2 consoles that won't work anymore no matter how far they are from a magnetic source.

    12. Re:Magnetic cooling for computers? by Timothy+Brownawell · · Score: 1

      When has this EVER been the case? Back in the days of the reel/reel tape drive?

      Normal magnets could probably mess up a floppy disc. Also, really old computers supposedly used little magnets strung on a grid of wires as their RAM, perhaps getting other magnets too close would break this (not that anyone would be allowed to open the cabinet unsupervised...)?

  7. My highly original thought on the subject by MyLongNickName · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This could feasibly be used to make a practical air conditioner by having a segmented disk shape block that allows air to pass through.

    Outside air would pass through one half of the disk that is currently energised (the electric field orders the polymer and thus releases heat).

    The inside air would pass through the other half that is currently not energised (the relaxation of the electric field allows the material to absorb heat).

    The disk rotates with segments shifting between the outside / inside halves, the electric field is applied by a simple electric comutation.

    This is not a true "no moving parts" system but it has the potential to be an order of magnitude quieter than the current air conditioning units.

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    1. Re:My highly original thought on the subject by MyLongNickName · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm not sure how close they come to reverse Carnot in a modern "fridge", but they are very durable. It seems like we had two refridgerators the whole time I was growing up, and the only reason we got the 2nd one was because we were in a different house. It's not exactly like they were being fixed all the time either. In fact, aside from the fact that the fridge we had when I was a kid required manual defrost, I don't think they ever required maintenance. The HVAC unit in my old condo had to be pulled. This was in 2006. When the tech opened it up, we discovered it was build in 1979. These units are essentially refrigerators too, with compressors. Now, that was a good old USA unit, with a steel housing and everything. I'm not sure if the cheapo plastic jobs they installed will hold up as well, but that's an implementation issue, not a problem inherent with the underlying tech.

      The point is, can this new technology be as efficient as a compressor, as cheap as a compressor and as DURABLE as a compressor?

      That said, perhaps it will find applications outside of keeping your OJ cool and your brow dry. If it does, great; but the current tech is pretty good. I wish they were silent, but even at that, a modern fridge is pretty quiet too.

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    2. Re:My highly original thought on the subject by repvik · · Score: 1

      Durable, probably. From what I gather, there's no moving parts. Cheap? Eventually, yes. Efficient? Probably not. Silent, though.

    3. Re:My highly original thought on the subject by MyLongNickName · · Score: 1

      Going by the rough description in TFA, it sounds like electricity's effect on the ferropolymer causes its bonds to strengthen, or perhaps to magnetically align, increasing rigidity, reducing the material's potential for containing kinetic energy.

      If the material's new state caps the amount of kinetic energy it can store, it has to move on - first law of thermodynamics and all.

      This may be the next interesting bit in applying their discovery - finding a compatible heat conductor, and also learning the optimal frequency, voltage, current etc. at which to apply voltage.

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    4. Re:My highly original thought on the subject by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Informative

      TFA is written very poorly and describes a phenomena involving polymers that is already widely known. There are many examples. Here is one you can try using something far less exotic than the polymers mentioned in the article.

      For this example, take a rubber band. Stretch it out. Touch the stretched rubber band to your lips. It will feel warm. Hold it in the stretched position for a few seconds to let it cool down to room temperature. Now let the rubber band relax, and once again touch it to your lips. You should now notice that it will feel cool.

      The above process uses exactly the same principles described in TFA. Stretching the rubber band causes reduction of disorder by aligning the polymer chains. It also warms the rubber band because of the work applied. As you hold the rubber band in the stretched state it will cool to room temperature releasing some of the energy needed to heat it. This is equivalent to the step where the electrical field is applied.

      Now release the rubber band. The polymer chains now revert back to a disordered state, cooling the rubber. Since the rubber band started in a stretched room temperature state the relaxed rubber band will now be below room temperature. this is equivalent to turning off the electric field as mentioned in the article.

      Voila. This is a wonderful new refrigeration system that will replace all existing known cooling systems. NOT.

      There are so many issues with practical application of this it is not funny. If these issues didn't exist we would have been using rubber band refrigerators for many decades already.

      Also, please note that from a thermodynamics point of view this is essentially how a conventional refrigeration system works (albeit fat far more efficiently).

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    5. Re:My highly original thought on the subject by Prefader · · Score: 1

      Ahh, blew all my mod points on another article. Very informative post . . . thanks.

    6. Re:My highly original thought on the subject by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

      I am really confused by your post. Are you suggesting, a particular implementation for the scientific phenomenon? Or do you think that a refrigerator is some how exploits different laws of physics than an air conditioner ( fyi, it doesn't)?

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    7. Re:My highly original thought on the subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One problem with your experiment...I now have to explain to my coworkers why I have a mouth full of rubber bands. Somehow my 'I am doing SCIENCE!' reply is not working.

      All hail rubberband Cthulhu.

    8. Re:My highly original thought on the subject by lord+sibn · · Score: 1

      Say what you will, but I am definitely looking forward to our rubber band powered refrigeration units!

    9. Re:My highly original thought on the subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dupe!

  8. This is news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Vendors like Coleman have been selling solid-state peltier effect portable refrigerators for camping use for years.

    1. Re:This is news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not news, but not because it's solid state. It's because of the method used: ferroelectric polymers that exhibit temperature changes at room temperature under an electrical field, rather than the peltier effect.
      That said, it's still a dupe.

  9. Great but... by metamechanical · · Score: 1

    This technology is of great use even today in the lab, but will most likely take much longer to bring to your kitchen. Currently, the magnets required for the heat transfer need to be cooled to subzero temperatures anyhow.

    The Wikipedia article on Continuous Adiabatic Demagnetisation Refrigeration does a pretty good job of explaining this.

    Also keep in mind that the magnetic fields used in this cooling method requires several Teslas to efficiently transfer heat. Aside from being difficult to produce, shoddily made units could basically make all your other electronics inoperable.

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  10. Pfft. by Fishbulb · · Score: 1

    They've been around for while. Any standard fridge can be made to work without a compressor (read: "pump") just by using a pilot light (even just a candle) at a low point to get the coolant to circulate up and around.

  11. prior art exists by swschrad · · Score: 1

    albert einstein and leo szilard had one of these patented in the 20s, somebody in germany made them for a while. very, very old news indeed.

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    1. Re:prior art exists by La+Gris · · Score: 1

      My grandfather had such a fridge without a compressor. It had gaz evaporated by an electric heator. It was a small form factor (Kind of 50l), rounded corners and door.

      In the early 80's, my uncle had a small fridge in his truck. It could be powered electrically 12v or by gaz. That worked by a heater device and no compressor.

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  12. Hmmmm .... by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Funny

    What I want to know is how this is affected by my huge collection of fridge magnets?

    Will one more souvenir magnet from a trip cause my milk to spoil? Or will I have to thaw my mustard? :-P

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  13. Well, that is "coming soon" by zogger · · Score: 1

    ..and so on, like so many tech advances out there, but if you want an alternative *now*, you can get a DC powered Sundanzer refrigerator or freezer and power one of them from a single solar panel. They are conventional compressors, but are built loads better with much more insulation than most other units. I don't need either now, a fridge or freezer, ours are both still pretty new and functional, but next time I need a new one, that's going to be it.

  14. magnetic fields in a computer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    whatcouldpossiblygowrong?

  15. Say What? by trongey · · Score: 1

    ...replace electrically powered refrigerators and their compressors and coils. The researchers are focusing on ferroelectric polymers that exhibit temperature changes at room temperature under an electrical field.

    So they're going to replace electrically powered refrigerators with refrigerators that are powered by electricity?

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  16. That's so cool... by raijinsetsu · · Score: 1

    it's hot!

  17. Re:On the way? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Better order a new wife ;)

  18. A better way, with less moving parts by comingstorm · · Score: 1

    First off, the way you want to make the stuff is as a thin plastic film. Aluminize both sides, and you can apply the voltage very easily. Fold it in half, and the high voltage electrode is sealed inside the plastic, so you're less likely to electrocute people.

    Next, roll it up, except keep a gap between each layer so you can blow air through the roll. This will need something like the middle layer of corrugated cardboard -- making little air channels against the film.

    Finally, you want a bellows, to pump air back and forth through the roll. Syncronize the voltage with the bellows, but out of phase, and you'll get a heat pump, which works like this:

    1. turn on the voltage: plastic heats up
    2. pump the air out: push hot air to outside of fridge
    3. turn off the voltage: plastic cools down
    4. pump the air in: pull cool air into fridge

    The great thing about this is that if you use a long roll of the stuff, you can make a temperature difference much greater than the on vs. off temperature gap. Each segment of the roll does the same refrigeration trick in parallel, but temperature difference is wired up in series, so your the temperature of the fridge is limited only by practical matters like leakage.

    Note that you don't even need to pump air all the way through the roll; as long as the air is moving back and forth, you'll get the refrigeration effect.

  19. On The Way? by DynaSoar · · Score: 1

    These are no more "on the way" than the ultrasonic refrigerators publicized a couple years ago. In both cases an effect is being played with. The technology necessary to produce a viable refrigeration unit will, in both cases, have to wait until they're done fooling around with the lab table versions.

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  20. Just frozen food for thought..... by zannox · · Score: 1

    With Global Warming isn't refrigeration going to be moot. Just put your beer outside :D

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  21. Already available at Thinkgeek by clarinetforhire · · Score: 1

    I bought a USB-powered compressor-free fridge several months ago, and it works great: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/accessories/96b3/ Move along, nothing new here.

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  22. Okay, now what? by mbessey · · Score: 1

    Done. Okay, not on the computer I'm currently using, but I've done this experiment before. Unless you've got a hellaciously-strong magnet, you simply won't be able to effect the proper functioning of a microchip with a magnetic field.

    As other people have mentioned, there are very powerful magnets inside the hard drive, and as it turns out, the magnet isn't likely to stick to anywhere other than the voice coil or spindle motors, where it won't do any damage to the recording media.

    This table:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coercivity#Experimental_determination

    shows that the coercivity of fridge magnets and hard disk media are approximately the same. In order for a fridge magnet to induce a change in the magnetic field of a HD platter, it'd have to practically be resting right on the platter itself.

    1. Re:Okay, now what? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

      Well, shoot the horse and slap me silly! I am still too paranoid to try it due to years of watching innocent people wipe out floppies with magnets, I know it's not the same but watch someone scream and cry for losing a term paper that way and you get paranoid of magnets + computers.

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  23. Magnetic Fridge? by BlogTheHaggis · · Score: 1

    I wonder if the contents of the fridge will become polarized?

    How hard would it be to eat cabbage that attracts to your fork? Or drink a beer that keeps trying to stick to your washing machine...