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Distributed Project To Classify SDSS Galaxies

Xandu writes "Be part of a human Beowulf by helping classify millions of galaxies from the SDSS at the Galaxy Zoo. From their about page, "Those involved are directly contributing to scientific research, while getting an opportunity to view the beautiful and varied galaxies that inhabit our universe. Why do we need people to do this, rather than just using a computer? The simple answer is that the human brain is much better at recognizing patterns than a computer. Galaxies are complicated objects that vary in appearance enormously, and yet in some ways they can be very similar. We could write a computer program to classify these galaxies, and many researchers have, but so far none have really done a good enough job. We have not been able to make computers 'see past' the complexity, to reliably identify the similarities that appear obvious to our eyes and brain. For now, and probably for some time yet, people do the best job of classifying galaxies."

35 comments

  1. Humans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    They're good for something after all.

    Perhaps they shouldn't all be killed then.

    1. Re:Humans... by dmbasso · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yep, some should be spared... I heard they provide a lot of btu's of energy.

      (The dumbest argument for a movie plot. Ever.)

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    2. Re:Humans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously the machines in that movie just hadn't figured out a way to convert our stupidity into energy. Imagine a beowulf cluster of "la-la-la-I-can't-hear-you" and "no money? Put it on my card!"

    3. Re:Humans... by zooblethorpe · · Score: 1

      (The dumbest argument for a movie plot. Ever.)

      ... not least because someone earlier in the film had mentioned that they already had viable fusion.

      Meh.

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    4. Re:Humans... by tuxgeek · · Score: 1

      "I heard they provide a lot of btu's of energy."
      People produce ~ 600 BTUs / hr ... for what it's worth

      That particular movie you refer to implies a human is also a power source, but I'm skeptical on that
      I know some people that are so dim that I doubt they could power a 5 watt light bulb ...

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  2. Uh.... this is YEARS old. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I should know, I worked on it. Like six IT jobs ago.

    1. Re:Uh.... this is YEARS old. by Xandu · · Score: 4, Informative

      Heh, I'll bite. Actually, this is version 2 (which came out 2 days ago). The original Galaxy Zoo was launched in July 2007, and only classified galaxies as spiral or not. This is much more fine-grained and allows for significantly better research.

      And seriously, 6 jobs in the last 18 months. C'mon!

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    2. Re:Uh.... this is YEARS old. by iluvcapra · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is much more fine-grained and allows for significantly better research.

      I also found that it took me probably 3 times as long to classify a single galaxy, because they've gone from an array of buttons to a tree of decisions for each picture. I hope it's worth it, but it's not as dead-simple to operate and it certainly takes longer.

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    3. Re:Uh.... this is YEARS old. by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

      Six months isn't all that old.

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    4. Re:Uh.... this is YEARS old. by Sparr0 · · Score: 1

      Depending on the jobs that could be a great thing. I know plenty of freelancers who bill $100+/hr and work a couple of 1-2 month jobs each year and just slack off the rest of the time.

  3. I probably shouldn't help by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 1

    I don't think I could resist the urge to tag everything as 'Thats no moon!'

  4. Why not MTurk? by tepples · · Score: 1

    Is there a reason that they can't just use Amazon Mechanical Turk for this?

    1. Re:Why not MTurk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      MTurk isn't free.

    2. Re:Why not MTurk? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      Money.

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    3. Re:Why not MTurk? by tepples · · Score: 1

      Nothing is free, not even the bandwidth to run this project. But can anybody give an educated guess as to how much outsourcing classification to MTurk might cost compared to the SDSS's existing budget?

  5. everything old is new again by bechthros · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Be part of a human Beowulf"

    uh, you mean a team?

    1. Re:everything old is new again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Be part of a human Beowulf"

      uh, you mean a team?

      Nah, just a lame attempt to capitalize on the Slashdot Beowulf meme. Sorry to offend.

    2. Re:everything old is new again by bechthros · · Score: 1

      no offense taken.

      apology accepted anyway.

    3. Re:everything old is new again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, make that wereBeowulf.

  6. What about retaliation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    After I pick a galaxy out of the lineup, how I can I be sure that it won't come after me later? Many astronomical objects get really bent when they think that they have been incorrectly labeled, and they can hold a grudge for billions of years! Just imagine being outside on a clear dark night and looking over you shoulder and seeing an angry galaxy coming after you. Do you think you can run fast enough to keep out of trouble? I pity the people who demoted Pluto from it's planetary status, I bet that they never go outside when it's dark. I'd rather just mind my own business.

    1. Re:What about retaliation? by hAckz0r · · Score: 1

      That's simple. Just stick to identifying galaxies that are more than 100 light years away and you will be relativistically safe. Your children's children's children on the other hand...

    2. Re:What about retaliation? by Xandu · · Score: 1

      That's simple. Just stick to identifying galaxies that are more than 100 light years away and you will be relativistically safe. Your children's children's children on the other hand...

      Ummm, which galaxies are closer than 100 light years?

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    3. Re:What about retaliation? by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      "Just imagine being outside on a clear dark night and looking over you shoulder and seeing an angry galaxy coming after you."

      Ok, I'm guilt. I'm the one who misslabeled Andromeda.

    4. Re:What about retaliation? by hAckz0r · · Score: 1
      Good point, I guess he's pretty safe then.

      btw - Thanks for the link! Excellent summary there, I just wish it had the red-shift included, but I can follow the links to find that.

  7. I tried, but it goes to a blank page. by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 1

    The first and third links in this article take me to a blank page. Does anyone else get this effect?

    1. Re:I tried, but it goes to a blank page. by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      No, because nobody RTFA.

  8. They don't want me by Pictish+Prince · · Score: 1

    I registered and tried logging in. No luck. Then I told it to send me a new password - no response. They really need to do this better.

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    1. Re:They don't want me by cre_slash · · Score: 1

      The mail was eaten by my spamassassin...

  9. SDSS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SDSS Galaxy == Same Day Same Shit Galaxy

  10. Other people who should not help: by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1
    Phew. When I first misread this title, I thought it said 'SSDS', and immediately recalled the guy behind the (similarly-named) SSDS ("SpectateSwamp Desktop Search"), locally notorious on thedailywtf.com forums for being The Real WTF (tm) in most threads he joins.

    So. Uhm. He probably shouldn't help either.

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  11. turn it into a game or contest by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Was it Google that gets people to tag images via the "ESP game"? You build up a score by guessing how another person would label the image. The more correct hits you get, the higher the score.

    1. Re:turn it into a game or contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but...

      A lot of the interesting results from Galaxy Zoo come from people spotting novel aspects of the images they're given to judge.

  12. Nice idea, but not really scientifically useful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    In grad school I remember a class where we played the same game. We had to make an estimate of the T-type (numerical hubble class) for the galaxies in the Coma cluster off of plate material. The point of the exercise in the end was to take all of these classifications made by supposedly trained and motivated people and show how much internal scatter you got (it was impressive, for some galaxies not better than random noise).

    I hope these guys make you practice on known training sets first so they can "calibrate" ya!

  13. it needs to match the public by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Originally, the movie in question was supposed to use human brains for calculations, but producers? were afraid the average viewer would not understand, so it was turned into humans producing btus of energy.