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China Ditches Compulsory Green Dam Plans
scrubl writes "China has ditched plans to force foreign and domestic computer manufacturers to install internet filtering technology in computers sold inside its borders. The Chinese government paid $5.85m to develop the software called Green Dam and claimed it was being installed to stop access to porn on computers and protect children. China's industry and information technology minister Li Yizhong said that manufacturers, Internet users, and organisations opposed to the plans had received the wrong message from his department and that installation was never planned to be compulsory."
Received the wrong message...hah...
The Chinese government paid $5.85m to develop the software called Green Dam and claimed it was being installed to stop access to porn on computers and protect children
And here I thought that argument was limited to politicians in democracies who need to pander in order to win re-election. Good to know the Chinese are learning from our "example" :)
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We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
Section 82: Never Being Wrong
If you're reading this, you're like me: you've never been wrong once in your life. Your average person isn't gonna know this because -- let's face it -- no shirt could hold all of the greatness of our beings so cut everyone else a slack if they don't know you. They're a big fat L7 and don't know how correct you always are.
But we've all been there, in that situation when a convo or situ goes south. You know what I'm talking about, you've just said something that is now correct (because you said it) but you're being presented with some "irrefutable" proof that it might have been incorrect before you said it. So here's how you deal with all the chumps that wanna waste their time disagreeing with you:
Remember, you're awesome and infallible. Never admit otherwise.
It's a good thing Bush & Cheney let me borrow their copy to provide this excerpt, I didn't have a plane ticket to go pick up the Chinese government's copy.
My work here is dung.
It was never compulsory, just required, mandatory, obligatory...
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I had a feeling those Dam plans were going to be trouble.
It was never required to be compulsory... oh, and we've always been at war with Eastasia.
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While there are a lot of Chinese women on there, they are mostly Americanized Chinese, so it's not like the pristine virgins of the Chinese mainland are at risk of ogling eyes.
Why this sudden change in policy. Obviously, their claim of a misunderstanding is unbelievable, but what did make them change their mind about Green Dam? Does it have anything to do with the recent WTO ruling on easing the controls of media imports? Was it because it was too faulty? Too difficult to implement? Or is there something even more sinister at work, like a decision to install such software at the provider level instead of the individual level?
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Now the children's minds will become corrupted by images of porn....and democracy.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
That's awfully expensive to "develop" when they stole filtering code from an internet filter company, as reported on slashdot.
Google's Super Secret Search Algorithm: SELECT @search_results FROM internet WHERE @search_results = 'good'
All the best porn COMES from China...usually from people that have never even heard of the Internet.
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do not censor the internet, the lies and bullsh!t eventually gets debunked and the truth eventually shines through
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The decade of the 1960's in the USA was the time when the young people of the USA finally got fed up with endless war, systemic racism, and lying government. The older generations just could not understand why these 'hippie scum' would not conform to the older generation's idea of 'normal'.
When will the same thing happen in China? When will the youth decide not to sign up for a lifetime of back breaking labor for low pay? When will the youth of the different ethnic groups in China begin inter-marrying and creating multiracial families? When will the youth demand a clean environment? When will youth demand the right of free expression.
When this happens, the world will be safer for our children.
Am I just paranoid in thinking that this is related to Iran's and Australia's recent success at filtering "objectionable" content at the ISP level?
Certainly it is much easier to administer at that level with only a relatively few portals.
This sounds like it validates the work on Fastnet and TOR.
Now the children's minds will become corrupted by images of porn....and democracy.
Don't forget alternate viewpoints of history and historical events. Who was right, who was wrong and what exactly happened seem to be fairly touchy subjects with the Chinese government. Even current news -- like the Khmer Rouge trials -- needs a meticulously spun delivery to be worthy of public scrutiny in China. Nothing's wrong with that, I just hope the citizens have the right to read about the trial through other outlets like ... say ... Cambodia's.
My work here is dung.
... and very little posted here about the most comprehensive, sweeping and far-reaching bill ever proposed in the United States ... namely, HR3200, aka "Americaâ(TM)s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009." I've kept my silence so far, but the political bias of the moderators here -- simply put, those who decide which stories make it to the main page -- is becoming laughably obvious.
Slashdot regularly and routinely posted every scrap of news about the Bush administration proposing a national ID card, or attempting to monitor private citizen's behavior, etc., etc. You can read the text of HR3200 online for yourself (http://info.glenrose.net/hr3200.pdf, just to name one place -- do a Google search). An admittedly-biased summary, written by a Duke University professor, can also be found at http://www.classicalideals.com/HR3200.htm.
Here's my own little quote from the bill:
Page 58, lines 5-13:
(D) enable the real-time (or near real time) determination of an individualâ(TM)s financial responsibility at the point of service and, to the extent possible, prior to service, including whether the individual is eligible for a specific service with a specific physician at a specific facility, which may include utilization of a machine-readable health plan beneficiary identification card;
"May" ... at the discretion of the Secretary. This is similar wording to what was found in the Bush proposals, and which incited near-riots here on Slashdot. Why no outcry this time? Enquiring minds want to know. :)
On page 59, lines 4-8:
(3) TIME FOR ADOPTION.â"Not later than 2 years after the date of implementation of the X12 ... (Page 59, lines 22-23):
Version 5010 transaction standards implemented under this part, the Secretary shall adopt standards
under this section [to, among other things]
(C) enable electronic funds transfers, in order to allow automated reconciliation with the related health care payment and remittance advice;
Once again, "enable," not "require" -- but at the discretion of a government bureaucracy. So ... who do you trust and believe?
As for the government keeping comprehensive, detailed medical records on every citizen, we have this reassurance on page 62:
(b) LIMITATIONS ON USE OF DATA.â"Nothing in this section shall be construed to permit the use of information collected under this section in a manner that would adversely affect any individual.
I am greatly comforted.
OK, so it's great news that China is abandoning these "Green Dam" plans. But when is this far larger story going to receive attention here? Or will even this post be modded as "troll" by all of the obvious Obama supporters here? We'll see. Thus far, the silence here has been DEAFENING. :)
is that someone got paid $5.85 million by the chinese govt for copying and pasting cybersitter's source code:
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/06/16/1422235/Chinas-Green-Dam-No-Longer-Compulsory-May-Have-Lifted-Code
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Thank goodness for the spambot writers and other criminals. China couldn't care less about the censorship and Internet freedom moaning and groaning. They didn't want to turn the country into a giant botnet from the gaping security holes in Green Dam.
Seems as though the rapidly expanding rich are getting more power in in China.
What a computer is good for if it can't play porn!?...may be surfing Slashdot?
...and we have always been at war with Eastasia.
A man a dam a plan madman.
Once I was a four stone apology. Now I am two separate gorillas.
China didn't require installation of the software, it merely required manufacturers to ship it. Manufacturers could satisfy this requirement simply by sticking a CD into the box.
Compared to, say, the German web censorship law, that's actually a lot less intrusive.
The Chinese minister took the correct *technical* decision. If China is serious about filtering the internet, the filter can't be at the user level. I has to be at the ISP or peering exchange level.
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