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Bahama Botnet Stealing Traffic From Google

itwbennett writes "'As part of its design, the Bahama botnet not only turns ordinary, legitimate PCs into click-fraud perpetrators that dilute the effectiveness of ad campaigns. It also modifies the way these PCs locate certain Web sites through DNS poisoning,' explains Juan Carlos Perez in an ITworld article. 'In the case of Google.com, compromised machines take their users to a fake page hosted in Canada that looks just like the real Google page and even returns results for queries entered into its search box. It's not clear where the Canadian server gets these results. What is evident is that the results aren't 'organic' direct links to their destinations, but are instead masked cost-per-click (CPC) ads that get routed through other ad networks or parked domains, some of which are in on the scam and some of which aren't.' 'Regardless, CPC fees are generated, advertisers pay, and click fraud has occurred,' Click Forensics reported on Thursday in a blog posting." Related: Techcrunch reports on a massive Chinese click-fraud ring controlling 200,000 IP addresses.

52 comments

  1. no surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And microsoft doesn't want to let everybody download the new "Forefront" ... hmmm

  2. Yay Click Fraud by rwv · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Because having retailers pay for ads that will never generate sales is the only way to make them realize that it's not worth it to advertise in the first place.

    As an aside, I'm looking forward to the new US blog rules that go into effect in a month that state bloggers need to say if they are getting paid to promote a product.

    1. Re:Yay Click Fraud by sakdoctor · · Score: 1

      No.

      In the economics of spam, let us call the vanishingly small number of people converting zero point zero.

      There are an unlimited number of idiots that will buy the service of spammers, lose money, go out of business and be replaced ... so spamming will NEVER go away.
      QED, "legitimate" web advertising will also never go away.

    2. Re:Yay Click Fraud by iYk6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's one potential outcome. I think it is more likely that advertising will just be worth less, and so ad based web sites will make less money per advertisement, and will need to show more advertisements to stay in business.

      Fraud has been going on for a long time. This isn't new, and isn't going to change anything.

    3. Re:Yay Click Fraud by graphius · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While some ads are obnoxious and annoying, advertising is an important part of competition and capitalism. The old adage of build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door is completely false. flamebate The dominant operating system is not necessarily dominant because it is the best on the market /flamebate
      Having said that, the cost per click model is completely outdated. It is only to the advantage of the advertising companies. It makes much more sense to have a flat fee. Radio and television ad costs are based on the size of the projected market (determined through various means) not directly on who is listening/watching any particular ad at any one time. In other words, a business pays for a TV ad regardless of whether you hop in your car and drive immediately down to the QuickieMart to pick up a soft drink...
      I think one step in getting less annoying Internet ads is to dispense with the concept that they are only worth something if you can coerce/convince someone to click on the ad. Rather, ads are used to build your reputation and increase familiarity.

    4. Re:Yay Click Fraud by rwv · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Rather, ads are used to build your reputation and increase familiarity.

      I would agree to this, except for the fact that there are so many advertisers who use obnoxious flash ads that distract and dance on the screen. These monstrosities don't make any attempt to build reputation.

      Also, the other day I saw an "Amazon" ad for a cordless drill (a product that I'm in the market for). They were advertising a sale for a product that I actually wanted and it came up either by luck or because they used cookies to figure me out. Either way... no click because they used an hidden/embedded flash link and so there is zero trust from me that the ad was actually going to take me to Amazon.

      I think the whole industry is fucked, and while I admit it's wishful thinking to hope that advertising goes away... I know that they'll be around for a long, long time.

    5. Re:Yay Click Fraud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Speaking as someone who's currently consulting for a company building analytics tools for several of the biggest ad servers, I am (very) sorry to say that these ads *do* generate sales, a depressingly large amount in fact.

    6. Re:Yay Click Fraud by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Still, what part of "follow the money" is lost on the police investigating things like this? Somebody's getting a check for all these clicks.

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    7. Re:Yay Click Fraud by shentino · · Score: 1

      Which is also why piracy will never stop either.

      Freetards without a leash will do whatever the fuck they want to no matter what the government says.

      Spamming and pirating are both wrong...we the people just have more important things to worry about with our limited resources, that's all.

    8. Re:Yay Click Fraud by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      There are a couple billion people using the Internet. Following the money on every nickel and dime isn't feasible. Hell... the police rarely catch pickpockets as it is. Why would online crime be any different? Most people will be too ashamed to admit they got fleeced, and then advertisers really don't have a perfect picture of who is displaying their ads all the time.

    9. Re:Yay Click Fraud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So this is how he won the Nobel Prize?

  3. Russians by tomhudson · · Score: 1

    n/t

    1. Re:Russians by buchner.johannes · · Score: 1

      No, Canadians

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    2. Re:Russians by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      No, Canadians

      What, Russians can't use computers outside their borders? So how'd they infect all those pcs in the Bahamas?

      Also, we DO have Russians in Kanuckistan, you ignorant clod! :-)

  4. Are clicks still being sold? by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Are clicks still being sold? It is not interesting how many visits you get, but how many items are bought. So companies don't want visitors, they want customers. The salesmen I encountered were never interested in clicks, but were interested in "ad provision".

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    1. Re:Are clicks still being sold? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > The salesmen I encountered were never interested in clicks, but were
      > interested in "ad provision".

      But they still need a metric. What do you suggest?

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    2. Re:Are clicks still being sold? by bjourne · · Score: 3, Informative

      Tracking users via cookies. When a user clicks an ad, it sets a cookie in that users browser. Then when that users makes a purchase/signs up, it can be shown that there is a direct link between the ad and the sale so the advertiser gets payed. That is how most serious ad networks operate these days.

    3. Re:Are clicks still being sold? by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So then people like me, who deny all cookies from advertising networks, are then committing click-fraud by not allowing the ad to be traced?

      It doesn't matter how you do it; if it's on the Internet, there will be an edge case of some type that doesn't fit, and breaks your model. Whether it's criminal click-fraudsters, paranoid anti-cookie loons, or some guy who's surfing on their friend's computer. They click an ad, their friend makes a purchase a week later, and the advertiser gets paid for......what, exactly?

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    4. Re:Are clicks still being sold? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      Uh huh. And then the merchant can make a little extra on the side selling behavioral data derived from such tracking cookies. Which is why many people block them.

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    5. Re:Are clicks still being sold? by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 1

      So then people like me, who deny all cookies from advertising networks, are then committing click-fraud by not allowing the ad to be traced?

      Or some special sub-site, HTTP parameter or... If you are going through the payment system, you probably have cookies switched on or any other means for maintaining the session

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    6. Re:Are clicks still being sold? by bjourne · · Score: 1

      No, you are not committing click-fraud, what gave you that stupid idea? The point of cookie-tracking is that the advertisers can not defraud the merchants. Loonies like you, who deny cookies, are still counted because the merchant can tell, when you make a purchase, whether you have an affiliate cookie set or not and people who deal with this kind of marketing are well aware of that cookie-tracking under counts what the affiliate delivers.

      Which is why the provision given to the affiliate is very high. E.g. a porn site may pay an affiliate the monthly subscription price times three for each paying subscriber recruited using a cookie-tracked ad, or about 60$. The payout for a click on a porn sites ad is much less, generally from 1-10 cents.

    7. Re:Are clicks still being sold? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      This penalizes the advertising network for the contents of the vendor's web site.

      If something on the vendor's web site makes the customer not complete the sale (or there's a technical issue), that's not the ad network's fault.

      Why should the vendor get a free ride, just because they can't manage to make the sale, after the advertiser sent them there?

    8. Re:Are clicks still being sold? by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      I have cookies enabled for the payment system, yes. But unless the advertising network placed the cookie, they would have no way to correlate clicks to sales. They'd just have to trust the customer. If the customer's code was buggy, and didn't properly place the cookie, or didn't properly check the cookie, or didn't properly ......fill in the blank, the advertising network would get bupkis. And that doesn't even get into companies who would just hide some of their click sales so their advertising budget was lower....

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    9. Re:Are clicks still being sold? by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      No, you are not committing click-fraud, what gave you that stupid idea?

      That wasn't a serious suggestion. It was quite sarcastic, directed to the parent who basically stated "Cookies will solve everything!!!yum!!1!"

      Loonies like you, who deny cookies, are still counted because the merchant can tell, when you make a purchase, whether you have an affiliate cookie set or not...

      Errmm...if I deny cookies, how can I be counted when the merchant sees that I have an affiliate cookie? I don't have an affiliate cookie. That's the whole point of denying them.

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    10. Re:Are clicks still being sold? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't matter you have cookies disabled, most mature feature-rich scripts track IP address along with useragent (browser) you're using when you clicked on the link. Then when a sale is made the database is queried and affiliate is credited (if any). You'd need to change useragent AND change IP address. TOR is good idea but most now know about it and block all TOR exit nodes (which are publicly available) using Apache htaccess.

    11. Re:Are clicks still being sold? by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      So is there an extension for FF that makes it send a random user agent for each request?

      If not, there should be.

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  5. What's up Google? by bogaboga · · Score: 1

    How come we've not heard any statement from Google? Are they on top of this?

    1. Re:What's up Google? by Aladrin · · Score: 1

      Maybe because Google doesn't really have anything to do with it? They aren't in on it, they don't support it, and they probably barely know it exists.

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    2. Re:What's up Google? by sopssa · · Score: 1

      Exactly, and it's a software that manipulates what it displayed on the page, just like AdBlock. There's not really much Google can do about it.

    3. Re:What's up Google? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      What can they do? They gotta be able to track down what IP is faking their website, so they can send takedown notices to the ISP..

      But if it's being served by a botnet, that's very hard... and fruitless

  6. What on earth are marketers thinking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's almost like saying in New York, "We hand out these stickers with the free-phone number of our store to you, and we will pay $1 for every call the number gets". There's a grillion ways you can achieve a lot of calls to a number. If I was a CEO, I would question the budget line for "click-financing" a lot.

    captcha: vibrator

  7. A virus is a virus by Viper23 · · Score: 1

    It's a nifty trick, but we should still dispatch ninja's to assassinate the people who wrote it. At this point I consider "death by ninja" to be the only hope I have of reducing the memory and CPU usage footprint of my AV software.

    1. Re:A virus is a virus by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > ...the only hope I have of reducing the memory and CPU usage footprint of my
      > AV software.

      There are ways to reduce it to zero without violence...

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    2. Re:A virus is a virus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > ...the only hope I have of reducing the memory and CPU usage footprint of my
      > AV software.

      There are ways to reduce it to zero without violence...

      You must have never used Symantec.

  8. where can I sign up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there any way I can send money to the writers of the Bahama botnet? I can't think of anything I want more on the Internet than something which reduces the viability of online advertising and takes traffic away from its major broker, Google. The web has reached the stage where almost everyone is a "content" producer, so while almost all of that content has no value (or is a pale imitation of content with value), because everyone now has an interest they refuse to admit just how worthless most of the web is. The primary reason for that worthlessness is that content is produced as a vehicle for selling advertisements, rather than content being provided on its own merits. This applies from the biggest conglomerate to the lowly blogger.

  9. Good! These actions improve awareness & securi by mrnick · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is just one example of how easily protocols can be subverted on the Internet. I don't feel bad for the people that are unknowingly facilitating criminal activity on the Internet. They are not victims they are a big part of the problem. Just as ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it ignorance should not be an excuse for underestimating the dangers of participating as a user on a public, untrusted, network (uhhhmm the Internet).

    The way these black-hat crackers are subverting the system is nothing new. It boils down to a simple man in the middle attack. I wouldn't be surprised if the Google search engine results that the OP stated that he didn't know where they were originating from didn't originate from Google. Google is likely profiting from this interaction as well. If someone can get in front of you and your destination (likely they have put themselves between you and the rest of the Internet community) then they can assume the identity of any content that you receive. So, if it Root DNS Servers and certificate authorities so they can phish your private information or increase someone's click revenue, as described in the OP, the fact remains that the ignorant pawns in this overt act are partners in the conspiracy.

    If you are stupid enough to keep paying for clicks that don't land fruit then you deserve to loose your money. It's just bad business.

    The more that people are reminded that the Internet is a no man's land and paying your $50 a month doesn't provide you any protection from the nefarious subculture that exists in every aspect of human interaction (including the Internet) the better. Hopefully pawns will wake up and realize that they need to take responsibility for their security and that of others (if you are a upstanding individual). Plus security is a reactive function. If nobody had ever started sniffing packets in efforts to steal private information we likely wouldn't have encrypted certificate signed HTTP today. This kind of activity will lead to further security enhancements though I don't think society should ever let their guard down because regardless of how tight security gets there will always be someone out there that can subvert it. The war is over, but the battle never ends.

    Yeah...

    Nick Powers

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  10. I've run across this.... by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've run across this beast before. Being Canadian, and used to all this crap being hosted in Russia, China, and various other places like that, imagine my surprise when I found the hosts file redirected all Google searches to a webhost in Ottawa.

    However, it might be somewhat easy to detect. When you try to log in to Google, Youtube, or any other Google service, the browser throws a security warning, because the secure Google login website is using a self-signed certificate.
    Although this may only apply after the active component of this malware is removed....I'm not sure. Didn't try to log in to Google before removal to try, because I didn't realize what I was dealing with a the time....

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    1. Re:I've run across this.... by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Being Canadian, and used to all this crap being hosted in Russia, China, and various other places like that, imagine my surprise when I found the hosts file redirected all Google searches to a webhost in Ottawa.

      With all the embassies and consulates in Ottawa, the crap may still be being hosted in Russia, China, and various other places like that...

      ...at least according to the popular myth that embassies are foreign territory.

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    2. Re:I've run across this.... by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      Nope. Hosted by an Ottawa computer company.

      Bastards.

      Or idiots.

      Not sure which.

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  11. Follow the Money... or the ads... by popo · · Score: 1

    > "What is evident is that the results aren't 'organic' direct links to their destinations, but are instead masked cost-per-click (CPC) ads that get routed through other ad networks or parked domains,"

    Well, this should be the easiest bust in the world. It's not often that the accomplices to a crime are literally *advertising* themselves. Go down the list of every CPC advertiser and bust them. They can claim they were not 'aware' of any wrongdoing, and that of course will be irrelevant in the eyes of the law.

    This seems cut and dry from a prosecution perspective.

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    1. Re:Follow the Money... or the ads... by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > Go down the list of every CPC advertiser and bust them. They can claim they
      > were not 'aware' of any wrongdoing, and that of course will be irrelevant in
      > the eyes of the law.

      Perhaps on your planet, but here in the USA the prosecution must prove criminal intent.

      But I suppose you wouldn't mind going to prison because someone joe-jobbed you.

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    2. Re:Follow the Money... or the ads... by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      They can claim they were not 'aware' of any wrongdoing, and that of course will be irrelevant in the eyes of the law.

      Ignorance of the law may not be an excuse, generally, but most crimes do have a required mental state which often includes (but is not limited to) awareness of material facts related to the wrongful conduct.

    3. Re:Follow the Money... or the ads... by popo · · Score: 1

      "but here in the USA the prosecution must prove criminal intent."

      Huh? Which USA do you live in? What you said is completely untrue.

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  12. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  13. interceptor1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So how do you remove this virus?

  14. OMG I use it all the time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'In the case of Google.com, compromised machines take their users to a fake page hosted in Canada that looks just like the real Google page and even returns results for queries entered into its search box."

    Oh noes... I go to www.google.ca all the time!

  15. not Google, second-tier competitors by davros-too · · Score: 1

    In my experience working with various advertisers, the problem is mainly not with Google or Yahoo who act on click fraud but their second-tier competitors like Miva, looksmart, etc who basically would go broke if they prevented click fraud.

    How it works is that the scammers set up affiliate accounts with the above ad networks and then the botnet (or other means) is used to direct clicks through affiliate links to genuine ads, thus defrauding the advertisers. In most cases they redirect clicks intended for another purpose, so the advertiser's website which eventually appears to the victim is generally unwanted. I know this due to hate mail accusing our company of perpetrating this on purpose. The links look somewhat 'real' on your logs due to the wide geographic spread of IP addresses, but this traffic can be easily identified by the fact that the real people on the hijacked computers *never* buy.

    Unfortunately the only solution is to not use Google and Yahoo's competitors, the net result of which is to reduce competition in a very bad way.

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  16. Re:This is friggin ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >>Maybe the FBI is looking at the ICANN and the ICANN is looking at the FBI and wondering why the other one isn't doing anything.

    Dude, your FBI might do something but hell will freeze over before ICANN starts policing their registrar's customers. Hell they are slow to act even when it is clear one of their accredited registrars is stealing the public blind..

    "I Can't" would be a better name imho

  17. how to fix your computer from bahama botnet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To resolve the issue if you have been infected, blow out the contents of the Hosts file.
    c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

    delete the junk contents where google, bing & yahoo are pointing to International sites or to your local computer’s IP.