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Google Launches Dictionary, Drops Answers.com

ObsessiveMathsFreak writes "Google has expanded its remit once again with the quiet launch of Google Dictionary. Google word search definitions now redirect to Google Dictionary instead of to Google's long term thesaurus goto site, Answers.com, which is expected to take a serious hit in traffic as a result. Dictionary pages are noticeably more plain and faster loading than their Answers.com equivalents, and unusually feature web citations for the definitions of each word. This means that, unlike most dictionaries, Google considers ginormous a word."

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  1. Urban Dictionary and so on by sopssa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder why I haven't actually seen the snippets of definitions lately. I remember seeing them a few years ago. Not that it would had actually changed a lot - there's always lots of different sites linking to dictionaries on the first page of results.

    Urban Dictionary has actually been the most useful one of those.

    User ratings, definitions of almost all the weird (and stupid) words teens come up with and usually fun descriptions too.

    Now get off my lawn.

    1. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by macshit · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Urban Dictionary is a funny case, because while it's often very useful, there's so much crap there that it takes a lot of wading and a certain amount of judgment to find the info you're looking for. Given the extent to which a lot of the crap (and info) is pretty er, profane, I'm not sure it's the best target for automatic usage by people that don't know what they're getting into...

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    2. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've always felt Urban Dictionary needs some sort of moderation. You can't trust one person to know every single bit of slang but there is some much rubbish on UD that, imo, it can be more or less useless sometimes.

    3. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by maxume · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is moderated.

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    4. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Funny

      It depends though, Urban Dictionary you can usually figure out what a word that someone says really means. Using traditional dictionaries you would think that someone says that someone sucks on a rooster...

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    5. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by mysidia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem with Urban Dictionary is it's filled with crappy non-objective/crackpot definitions: opinions about words, not accurate well-written definitions, and contains definitions that reinforce many common misconceptions,

      Example #1: Sugar High

      The intense physiological effect of consuming too much sugar or glucose, usually in the form of cakes, cookies and soda; eating excessive amounts of sugar makes the brain release dopamine and endorphins, often inducing a mild sense of euphoria and happiness.

      Example #2: Boogeyman The scary monster man that gets little kids at night, usually found under the bed or in a dark closet.. Little eric got eaten by the boogeyman when he didn't say his prayer last night.

      Example #3: Linux

      An overblown "Wal-Mart" OS written by programmers who lack the balls and social skills to walk their own dog. "The calculator froze up again. Oh, that runs on a Linux kernel. "

      Example #4: Windows A piece of glass you can open when it gets too hot outside. Come on people

      Person 2: " You think you made a mistake? I BOUGHT WINDOWS!"

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    6. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by blackest_k · · Score: 1

      It depends though, Urban Dictionary you can usually figure out what a word that someone says really means. Using traditional dictionaries you would think that someone says that someone sucks on a rooster...

      It doesn't do much for international relationships either when looking for appropriate words to use. If Colins or websters had their way we'd all be virgins.

      (longmans is one of the few that might have a few useful words). On the other hand if you don't learn from a native speaker then you are unlikely to need them anyway.

    7. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by osu-neko · · Score: 1

      A piece of glass you can open when it gets too hot outside. Come on people

      Actually, the "piece of glass" would be a windowpane. The window itself is the opening in which such panes are frequently (but not always) found.

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    8. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You may as well go all the way and say "orally applies negative pressure to a rooster".

      Also, in before anyone says there's no such thing as negative pressure.

    9. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by palegray.net · · Score: 4, Funny

      You missed the best part of the story summary; the Answers.com link goes to the definition of the word "divorce". I lolled, is that in the dictionary?

    10. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      You may as well go all the way and say "orally applies negative pressure to a rooster".

      try "applies oral suction to a rooster."

      Which would really suck.

      Then again, "blow job" doesn't involve any blowing either.

      Though I heard tell that Marylin Manson supposedly had some ribs removed so he could blow his own horn.

      And no doubt cunnilingus can involve some cunning.

      Burma Shave

    11. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by chromas · · Score: 1

      And the article tags: "google embiggens cromulent divorce story"

    12. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by palegray.net · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, sir, folks apparently don't pay much attention to those. Of those that do, few got the joke :).

    13. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by the_womble · · Score: 1

      The traditional dictionaries you use are poor if the do not cover common and well established slang like that. The OED does, even in the free web version: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/cock

      Urban dictionary is useful for slang, but you are somewhat exaggerating things.

    14. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by gmrath · · Score: 2, Informative

      What every you do, check the link for #3. Absolutely hilarious . . . and nothing like the his example, although that's pretty funny, too.

    15. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By the very same idiots that post the crap.

    16. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by Steve+Franklin · · Score: 1

      I find it quite useful and haven't noticed much of this "crap" whereof you speak. Perhaps your built-in crap detector is misfiring? Hey, whaddaya want for free? Merriam Webster?

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    17. Re:Urban Dictionary and so on by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      If you're using Urban Dictionary to look up words that are already part of the language, are products, or ask questions about medical issues, you're doing it wrong. It's a dictionary for slang.

      You might as well slag of Slashdot, because of the equally uninformed opinions some people have on certain OSs here. Or slag off dictionaries, because they don't tell you the meaning of slang words not yet in widespread use.

  2. Good by rmushkatblat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now we don't have to deal with M-W terrible website layout, popups, etc.

    1. Re:Good by narcberry · · Score: 4, Informative

      Who cares about popups, now we have a standardized scrabble dictionary!

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    2. Re:Good by tuxedobob · · Score: 1

      You mean aside from the actual, official Scrabble dictionary?

    3. Re:Good by dov_0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think that the really interesting thing is how they've integrated Google Translate into the drop down language list. Absolutely beautiful. Very useful. Nice work.

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    4. Re:Good by djradon · · Score: 1

      scrabble is more fun when played with the universal dictionary.

    5. Re:Good by Narpak · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Personally I have been using Dictionary.com for years now, got it incorporated with my dropdown list of search engines in Firefox to. Can't really see myself changing unless something drastic happens as Dictionary.com is plain, functional and provides the information without any hassle.

    6. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      M-W.com used to be a really fun site. They have/had Word for the Wise, and Word of the Day. These sections used to be filled with amateur comedy mixed with historic facts. These days they aren't funny at all and seem to have less effort put into the historic fact finding of the words.

    7. Re:Good by skine · · Score: 1

      It even counts kwyjibo!

      (though the definition would be better if it were a definition, not quoting wikipedia...)

    8. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You haven't been playing Scrabble long enough if you still need a dictionary.

    9. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use M-W because it has audio clips for pronunciation. Google's dictionary doesn't seem to have that. I guess I'll still use M-W.

    10. Re:Good by bertoelcon · · Score: 1

      It is a pain to get the characters you need when you play universal scrabble though.

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    11. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use dict from the command line. Works well.

    12. Re:Good by anethema · · Score: 1

      It doesn't get much more plain and functional than this google one. Plus, you just click the dropdown to get a nice language translator.

      http://www.google.ca/dictionary?aq=f&langpair=en|en&hl=en&q=functional

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    13. Re:Good by noidentity · · Score: 1
      Indeed, this will replace my past use of dict.org. Decently-featured ad-free site using the open dict format, but too big of a page header, and the URLs were overly long in comparison:

      http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Strategy=*&Form=Dict1&Database=*&Query=bloated

      now versus

      http://google.com/dictionary?langpair=en|en&q=bloated

  3. When google finally presses the evil button... by cupantae · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...we will have to pay to use any words that are in google dictionary. That's why frequently used but non-dictionary words like "ginormous" are in there. I notice that my native Irish (Gaelic) isn't there, so I'll just put on another few layers of tin foil and start speaking Irish

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    1. Re:When google finally presses the evil button... by amRadioHed · · Score: 4, Funny

      How exactly does a dictionary list non-dictionary words?

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    2. Re:When google finally presses the evil button... by Blue+Stone · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Another word not in there is "poop", synonymous with poo, bot unlisted as another word for faeces.

      Compare Google Dictionary's result: http://www.google.co.uk/dictionary?aq=f&langpair=en|en&hl=en&q=poop

      which merely lists poop deck, with Answes.com's: http://www.answers.com/topic/poop

      which is comprehensive and exactly what you'd expect from a dictionary.

      I'd say Google fails pretty badly on this (relatively childish) example and isn't up to the job (or should that be jobbie).

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    3. Re:When google finally presses the evil button... by Blue+Stone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh great, and slashdot craps all over the google link, presumably because of the pipe character.

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    4. Re:When google finally presses the evil button... by amRadioHed · · Score: 4, Informative

      Did you look at the whole page of results from google? It has the excrement definition in the "related phrases" and "web definitions" sections.

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    5. Re:When google finally presses the evil button... by realityimpaired · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Reach for the tinfoil hat indeed...

      The reason they come out with new dictionary versions every year is that new words are added to the dictionary, and sometimes old words are removed, or have their definitions changed. I don't see any reason that online shouldn't also follow this trend, but the advantage to an online format is that the change can happen relatively quickly, once it's accepted by the editor, whereas some people still use decades-old versions of the printed dictionary and don't see a reason to buy a new copy every couple of years.

      And there are some *print* dictionaries that include "ginormous" in the list of words. Language, by definition, is fluid. It changes over time, and the dictionary needs to change with it. "Ginormous" is a word that has made it into the popular vernacular, and it has a generally accepted meaning as a portmanteau of the words "giant" and "enormous". As such, it belongs in the dictionary, and it's only a matter of time before the remaining editions of the dictionary add the word. A language isn't defined by the dictionary, but rather, the dictionary is defined by the language. (it's already in the Oxford English Dictionary as well as the Collins Dictionary, and Merriam-Webster.)

      Obligatory disclaimer: One of my two major fields of study in my undergrad was applied linguistics.

    6. Re:When google finally presses the evil button... by Nemyst · · Score: 1

      And I just finished handing out my mod points in another news post... Mod parent up! The GP apparently didn't even look at the page he's criticizing.

    7. Re:When google finally presses the evil button... by Blue+Stone · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, I did. What I saw is a bunch of links to other sites that define related phrases.

      When i click on a definition link that's on Answers.com, I get what you would expect from a dictionary - a bunch of definitions for the word I was inquiring about. Google Dictionary doesn't do that (in this case) - it gives one single definition out of the many available and then gives me other links to follow for what it calls ' related phrases'. In other words, i have to go to yet more sites to get the definition I was looking for when I clicked 'definition' and was taken to Google Dictionary.

      It's not a dictionary. It's 'some' definitions (one in this case) and then a buch of links to other sites that may have the definition i want. Why do i want to hop from site to site in search of my definition? That's what i thought I was clicking on 'definition' for.

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    8. Re:When google finally presses the evil button... by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I did. What I saw is a bunch of links to other sites that define related phrases.

      You mean all Google did was give you a bunch of links to other sites when you asked it about something? Say it ain't so!

    9. Re:When google finally presses the evil button... by smithberry · · Score: 1

      Ginormous is also in the Chambers dictionary. So perhaps it was poor choice for describing as not being in "most dictionaries". Unlike gullible which is not in any dictionary.

  4. But... by muncadunc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ginormous IS a word. It's just a relatively new word.

    1. Re:But... by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Funny

      Agreed, it's perfectly cromulent.

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    2. Re:But... by lilomar · · Score: 1

      Pattern of sounds with a meaning, last I checked, that was the definition of a word (although, it might have changed...).

      so you can call me an idiot if you like, but at least I know you won't refer to me as a ginormous idiot.

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    3. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Heck, a ginormous vocabulary embiggens even the smallest man.

    4. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree. I think the site is very scrumtrulescent.

    5. Re:But... by skine · · Score: 2, Funny

      You're embiggening this thread with that cromulent comment.

    6. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    7. Re:But... by SteveFoerster · · Score: 1

      Ah, but would it be "embiggens" or would it be "ginormousizes"?

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    8. Re:But... by Courageous · · Score: 1

      Any dictionary I have ever seen would consider "ginormous" to be a word.

      See the definition of "word" here:

      http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/word

      This is one of my favorite asinine party tricks. If someone tells me something isn't a word, I bet them that it is, according to THEIR dictionary. I've never lost this bet. It has the added virtue of verbally pinching the anal retentive word monger right on the nose. :-)

      C//

    9. Re:But... by tool462 · · Score: 1

      Dude, you can't embiggen an inanimate object. Learn English already, geez.

    10. Re:But... by doctor_no · · Score: 1

      Pretty impressive, 'cromulent' does show up...
      http://www.google.com/dictionary?langpair=en%7Cen&q=cromulent&hl=en/

      * Fine, acceptable or normal; excellent, realistic or authentic
      * "Lisa the Iconoclast" is the sixteenth episode of The Simpsons' seventh season. It originally aired on the Fox network in the United States on February 18, 1996. In the episode, Springfield's bicentennial approaches, and Lisa writes an essay on town founder Jebediah Springfield. ...

      As does "embiggen":

      * Make bigger

      Not to mention "Dingleberry":

      *Vaccinium erythrocarpum, the Southern Mountain Cranberry; Any residual irregularity following processing; A small piece of feces clumped to anus

      But if you put in "Microsoft" there is no definition: it just says " * microsoft is also a word in: Deutsch"

      http://www.google.com/dictionary?langpair=en%7Cen&q=microsoft&hl=en/

    11. Re:But... by mqduck · · Score: 1

      'Ginormous' is in that gray area between "real" word and slang. But I was really surprised to discover just now that 'humongous' is considered a slang word, according to Miriam-Webster.

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    12. Re:But... by veganboyjosh · · Score: 1

      This, sir, is genius.

    13. Re:But... by bertoelcon · · Score: 1

      But if you put in "Microsoft" there is no definition: it just says " * microsoft is also a word in: Deutsch"

      http://www.google.com/dictionary?langpair=en%7Cen&q=microsoft&hl=en/

      If you follow that link to German.

      Found in dictionary: German > English. See also: English > German.

      Microsoft - noun

      1. Microsoft

      Apparently no words can accurately describe Microsoft other than its name.

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    14. Re:But... by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      Ginormous is a word, but I'm not sure it is an English word. It has been in the Scots language for many years, certainly for as long as I've been old enough to speak.

    15. Re:But... by Martin+Spamer · · Score: 1

      Ginormous IS a word. It's just a relatively new word.

      That would make it a neologism, a newly invented word, which is also a neologism.

    16. Re:But... by xigxag · · Score: 1

      I seem to be the only person for whom the word "ginormous" calls to mind a huge vagina.

      Perhaps I was traumatized at birth?

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    17. Re:But... by e2d2 · · Score: 1

      Just stating the obvious - If Ginormous wasn't a word no one here would understand it.

    18. Re:But... by troll8901 · · Score: 1

      Apparently no words can accurately describe Microsoft other than its name.

      Micro and soft? I don't understand.

    19. Re:But... by bigngamer92 · · Score: 1

      Damnit Cromwell, your rule was NOT "cromulent".

    20. Re:But... by skine · · Score: 1

      What?

      My use of embiggen is perfectly cromulent.

  5. For English definitions ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... the websites for long-standing print dictionaries are still the best.

    Oxford English Dictionary is considered the authoritative standard for the English Language.
    If you or your employer/university don't have an OED online subscription, Merriam-Webster will do in a pinch.

    1. Re:For English definitions ... by Ragzouken · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How much better can the OED really be?

    2. Re:For English definitions ... by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

      Given the Age of said Dictionary some folks more or less say
      the OED DEFINES THE ENGLISH MEANING EOD == QED

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    3. Re:For English definitions ... by R.Mo_Robert · · Score: 1

      Not much: the OED, in fact, does have an entry for 'ginormous' -- and the first attestation is from 1948, so I don't think it's as new as some people think.

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  6. I don't care about "most dictionaries"... by lammy · · Score: 5, Funny

    If it's in the Oxford, then it's a bloody word! http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/ginormous?view=uk ... And that's the Compact dictionary - so it's definitely in the ginormous one!

    1. Re:I don't care about "most dictionaries"... by HawkinsD · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's really interesting, thanks. The main dictionary (oed.com) is $295/year. I didn't know they had a concise one for free.

      And it really is concise. One (really good) definition. Not 37 links, like the Google dictionary.

      Not that there's anything wrong with 37 links. But sometimes I just want to want to know the definition of the word.

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    2. Re:I don't care about "most dictionaries"... by nine-times · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've people use it in speech and writing and others generally know what it means, then it's a word. I think even the people who work on the OED have said that dictionaries are descriptive, no prescriptive. The intention is to maintain a catalog of words that are commonly accepted and in use, not to tell you which words are acceptable. Oxford is not the Academie Francaise.

      All words are made-up words. There are words that I don't like and words that I think are stupid, and plenty of new words that I hope don't continue to be used. Unfortunately, they're still words.

    3. Re:I don't care about "most dictionaries"... by xaxa · · Score: 1

      $295 is a bargain. It's £750 if you buy it (all 20 volumes) in print! Or £4000 for the leather-bound one.

      Sample page (PDF). It's really not concise, but then it's not supposed to be.

    4. Re:I don't care about "most dictionaries"... by mako1138 · · Score: 1

      I got my OED1 compact edition for around $60, in very good condition. I'm not willing to pay $300 a year for a dictionary, but then again I'm not an English major.

    5. Re:I don't care about "most dictionaries"... by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      Not that there's anything wrong with 37 links. But sometimes I just want to want to know the definition of the word.

      "Just tell me what time it is - don't tell me how to build a clock!" - Groucho Marx

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  7. Google Dictionary? by phantomcircuit · · Score: 1

    Google "Dictionary" is nothing more than a simple aggregation. They take the definitions from other free dictionaries.

    So why not just include Answers.Com in the Google Dictionary results?

    1. Re:Google Dictionary? by jack2000 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because it's also what answers.com does too. You wouldn't want a metasearch engine referencing another metasearch engine.
      On that path madness dwells.

    2. Re:Google Dictionary? by engun · · Score: 1

      I for one am very unhappy about answers.com being removed.

      For one thing, it had audio pronunciation guides. Google doesn't.
      Thesaurus, antonyms etc. are integrated. Google doesn't have any of these.

      Seems more of a downgrade really. What does google offer that answers.com doesn't?

    3. Re:Google Dictionary? by phantomcircuit · · Score: 1

      Oh i was unaware of that, my bad.

    4. Re:Google Dictionary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you do know that answers.com still actually exists, right? So I don't think it needs to get to the level of "very unhappy". Just go directly to www.answers.com, and cheer up!

    5. Re:Google Dictionary? by maxume · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "very unhappy"?

      Really?

      Do you realize you can still use it?

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    6. Re:Google Dictionary? by interiot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've used onelook.com for a while, which is another aggregator that (for now) seems to have more links than Google Dictionary does.

      But Google Dictionary isn't just an aggregator, they provide their own pronunciations for some words (a really important feature IMHO), and a list of synonyms for some words.

      I actually hope that onelook links to Google Dictionary, as strange as an aggregator-linking-to-aggregator might be.

      My guess is that Google has been working on computational linguistics for such a long time (stemming has been important for search for a while, and Google lately has started throwing in synonyms to the search results) that it's natural for Google to start exposing some of their internal dataset to the world more directly.

    7. Re:Google Dictionary? by copponex · · Score: 4, Funny

      You should've googled it.

    8. Re:Google Dictionary? by phantomcircuit · · Score: 2, Funny

      irony++

    9. Re:Google Dictionary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? The most useful feature you talked about there (at least in my opinion) is the pronunciation, which Google has. See the little speaker icon next to pronunciations? Click it! It even has a British version and US version for words pronounced differently!

      As for antonyms, synonyms, etc, yeah, that would be great, but this is Google Dictionary, not Google Thesaurus :D

    10. Re:Google Dictionary? by engun · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of course. But Google is my default search engine. And the direct link to the word definition from search results is what I normally use. My point is, google has unlinked answers.com to provide an inferior service themselves. What exactly is the point?

    11. Re:Google Dictionary? by Opyros · · Score: 2, Informative

      OneLook has some other cool features, too, e.g. reverse lookup, pattern matching, and acronym-only search.

    12. Re:Google Dictionary? by Idiomatick · · Score: 1

      I'll wait to decide in 6months. Hopefully it will be better by then.

    13. Re:Google Dictionary? by Idiomatick · · Score: 1

      Maybe he is the CEO of answers.com, I'm sure he is "really fucking unhappy" :P

    14. Re:Google Dictionary? by Idiomatick · · Score: 1

      Also, bad to double reply I know but... Google has a play button so you can hear the word.. in fact, it has a male UK speaker and female US speaker to work out dialects (for ginormous at least). And it has the gibberish known as pronunciation keys.

    15. Re:Google Dictionary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ironz?

    16. Re:Google Dictionary? by engun · · Score: 1

      Yes, but I could find audio pronunciation guides only for "ginormous", which was the first thing I checked also as it's directly linked to by the article.

      Most others don't seem to have them. Frankly, even if you learn the pronunciation keys (gibberish is indeed a more appropriate word for it), it's still not comparable to actually hearing the word spoken out loud by a native speaker. (And I'm not a native speaker)

    17. Re:Google Dictionary? by iamapizza · · Score: 1

      I know, I've been listening to the female US speaker say it to me all day long...

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    18. Re:Google Dictionary? by Anonymuous+Coward · · Score: 1

      You'll find audio pronunciations if you choose eg. English-French or English-Chinese instead of English Dictionary on the drop-down menu.

  8. define:-searches are not redirected by Eudial · · Score: 2, Informative

    Doesn't look like it's fully deployed yet. Google searches of the form "define:word" are not redirected to google dictionary yet. Which is a shame. Because that's one hell of an useful way of looking up terms.

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    1. Re:define:-searches are not redirected by Cal27 · · Score: 1

      However, if you google a word it will give a link to its definition next to your search terms.

    2. Re:define:-searches are not redirected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's pretty much the way I've always done it. Didn't know there were alternatives.

  9. why? by fermion · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This is one of those changes that makes me lose confidence in Google. It seems that Google wants to control all the resources instead of being part of an internet. As if it is playing the zero sum game of war rather than the non-zero sum game that allows businesses to exist and grow together.

    By doing this, Google may have wrested control over third parties, but has significantly degraded the user experience. Prior to this, each word would have a hyperlink to a definition. Now it appears that one has a link to "definition" for one word. Furthermore, in my sampling the definitions are very basic and not of competitive quality. For instance, the word cricket has for the first definition the sport, the second a slang use, and then finally a first grade definition as an insect. No etymology. No context.

    I can only imagine they are doing this to in some way differentiate themselves from Bing, which could also use freeonlinedictionary or the like. Unfortunately for Google, MS has encata, which tends to not have slightly more sophisticated definitions.

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    1. Re:why? by buchner.johannes · · Score: 3, Interesting

      With webmail combining mail into the web, the web became the Internet.
      With increasing importance of online/cloud/Live applications and ChromeOS combining applications into the web, the OS becomes just the medium of accessing the Internet.
      With Google being the starting point for many people to do their Internet stuff, and Google incorporating more and more steps of that clickpath -- you don't have to leave google for shopping, mail, document editing, site-specific searches, weather information, stock information, ... --, other websites are left without clicks.

      Is Google trying to become the Web? Google is leveraging their, not monopoly, but well-established position.

      NB: The message above might reflect my opinion right now, but not necessarily tomorrow or next year.

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    2. Re:why? by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

      I prefer to go to Google's dictionary because it loads much faster than the others. I just want a definition and if I want it expanded upon, thankfully Google provides links to external sites.

      It's by no means perfect but it's probably not complete and with the inclusion of, at the very least, a wikipedia link, I can get a full and detailed definition if required.

      Imo, most dictionary sites are ugly and too graphic intensive for a site where people are only interested in words.

    3. Re:why? by osu-neko · · Score: 1

      This is one of those changes that makes me lose confidence in Google. It seems that Google wants to control all the resources instead of being part of an internet.

      Eh? It's still pulling its stuff from the internet. It's just cut out the useless middleman. Instead of linking to another site that just pulls its info from other sites, adding no value of its own, just aggregating that info into one (cluttered, poorly formatted) page, Google now links directly to those other sites and presents the info much more cleanly. It's really what they should have done from the start, this being exactly what Google has done with its core service (search) from the get-go.

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    4. Re:why? by BeanThere · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It makes sense that Google wants to do this, and Google generally do good stuff ... but I'm really slowly just starting to feel a bit like, 'OK Google, enough, you don't have to be part of *everything* I try do in life'. Am not saying they've done anything wrong; maybe there really is just a tendency for people to not like one company to get too big.

    5. Re:why? by DaTrueDave · · Score: 0

      Remember this (now outdated) gem? http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/epic

    6. Re:why? by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 1

      With increasing importance of online/cloud/Live applications and ChromeOS combining applications into the web -> To who? I wouldn't place any faith in Google to secure the kind of information that I would normally use my OS plus applications for, especially not for the ephemeral price of "data trends to help target advertisements". Also cloud computing isn't uploading your information to third party servers, its uploading it to your own servers in a manner that looks seamless to users, although its still a marketing buzzword with all that.

      Mail to web was the integration of two important applications, for which a clear need was and is perceived. Web based standard applications are a forced combination that offers no real advantages except to lite users who wouldn't be using a lot of these applications anyway.

  10. define: word by at_slashdot · · Score: 1

    Why don't they add the results to "define: word" search in Google?

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  11. It will do for now by cyberzephyr · · Score: 1

    I speak 4 languages other than English: German, Japanese, Spanish, French and Sign language (ASL) as well. I tested it's translations in all the different languages and it performed fine by my standard except for ASL for obvious reason's.

    I liked it.

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    1. Re:It will do for now by pushing-robot · · Score: 1

      Perhaps I'm blind, but I didn't see Japanese in the list.

      It's rather odd, as Japanese is supported by Google Translate (and happens to be the fourth most popular language on the Internet).

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    2. Re:It will do for now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      heast hoits mei du saubeidl --- German has too many dialects for one dictionary :-)
      That's a good method of not getting indexed. Write in dialect.

    3. Re:It will do for now by cyberzephyr · · Score: 1

      Danke.

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    4. Re:It will do for now by cyberzephyr · · Score: 1

      Japanese worked fine for me. I was just translating words on the fly in different to see if they came up correctly in English.

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    5. Re:It will do for now by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I tested it's translations in all the different languages and it performed fine by my standard except for ASL for obvious reason's.

      Based on this sample of English, presumably your native language, I'm going to have to take your opinions on accurate translations with a grain of salt. Actually, make that a crystal of halite. Several kilogram sample.

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    6. Re:It will do for now by Idiomatick · · Score: 1

      Japanese isn't on the list for me either. Even when I use a proxy so I dunno what's up.

    7. Re:It will do for now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how, pray tell, does one speak sign language?

    8. Re:It will do for now by Itninja · · Score: 1

      Meh. I am a native English speaker but am also learning Arabic. All they have for Arabic is an English/Arabic translator. Maybe one day they will have an actual Arabic dictionary.

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    9. Re:It will do for now by cyberzephyr · · Score: 1

      I still use paper copies for all languages.just in case. :-)

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    10. Re:It will do for now by inamorty · · Score: 1, Funny

      And how, pray tell, does one speak sign language?

      It's easier than it sounds...

    11. Re:It will do for now by NorQue · · Score: 1

      [...] Sign language (ASL) [...]

      So, that's Sign language? I think I speak that, too: 24/f/Burkina Faso.

    12. Re:It will do for now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe English is not his/her first language? Don't be so quick to Grammar Nazi!

    13. Re:It will do for now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure about German, Japanese, Spanish, French and Sign language, but in English, you don't pluralize with an apostrophe.

  12. Doesn't "define:" already work fine? by Khashishi · · Score: 2, Informative

    is there something I'm missing?

  13. Unanswered Question? by lenmaster · · Score: 1

    Do this mean I'm not going to get answer to this question on answers.com: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_know_when_its_time_to_poop

  14. Still needs work by tuxedobob · · Score: 1

    Yeah, so, after looking it up, I still don't know how to say "ginormous". (Not that I plan on using it any time soon anyway.) Their pronunciation guide could stand to also include the guide I've seen in dictionaries for decades, rather than an unnecessary international guide when I'm looking up an English word.

    1. Re:Still needs work by maxume · · Score: 1

      If you have a sound card and the hated flash installed, you could clickly-clickly on the little speaker to hear it pronounced.

      Also, to help with this particular instance, say 'gi' like you would say it if you were saying giant, but instead of finishing with 'ant', say 'normous' as if you were saying enormous.

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    2. Re:Still needs work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Click on the speaker icons next to the pronunciation guides to hear the words spoken...

    3. Re:Still needs work by tuxedobob · · Score: 1

      I realize that. But then why bother with the text pronunciations?

  15. allows users to decide what are words by panthroman · · Score: 1

    I hope the dictionary works on a sort of democratic principle, where words are defined by their actual usage.

    Dictionary editors understand this, but they just don't update enough to make it work. M-W doesn't have the Simpsons' cromulent, but it has Shakespeare's puke and Dr. Suess's nerd. It'd be nice to have a dictionary that evolves as quickly as language.

    1. Re:allows users to decide what are words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      M-W doesn't have the Simpsons' cromulent, but it has Shakespeare's puke and Dr. Suess's nerd.

      But based on your description, that would be M-W to a T!

      I defy you to find a single use of "cromulent" that isn't a Simpsons reference. "Puke" and "nerd", however, are used in all sorts of ways that have nothing to do with where they were originally coined. That is to say, "puke" and "nerd" are used in their own right, without regard to Shakespeare or Dr Seuss. "Cromulent" exists only as a reference to a specific source; it has no independent use.

      (Incidentally, "puke" isn't Shakespeare's invention; in English it dates to a 1581 treatise on educating children by Richard Mulcaster, and may come from Dutch or German. Sometimes doing research is a good thing.)

  16. huh? by bcrowell · · Score: 4, Informative

    Am I the only one to have the following three reactions?

    1. I remember answers.com solely as one of those annoying sites that mirror's Wikipedia's content, polluting search results with fifty copies of the same WP article. It astonishes me to find out that Google has ever been associated with one of these things; they all strike me as sleazy attempts to sop up some ad revenue without actually making any positive contribution of their own. I would have expected Google to try to filter out such things, not to be associated with them.
    2. Huh? What is a "Google word search definition?" Okay, click through to the LA times blog, which say, "Previously, the 'definition' button at the top right of all Google searches for words would direct users to entries on the Wikipedia-like Answers.com site. Now those links go to Google Dictionary, a less colorful, less cluttered interface." Double huh? Never noticed such a thing before. I did two Google searches on dictionary words just now, and neither one came up with a "'definition' button at the top right." I've never noticed one in the past, and I'm not seeing one now.
    3. Aparently the OP doesn't know what a thesaurus is.
    1. Re:huh? by maxume · · Score: 2, Informative

      Answers.com provides information from lots of other sources too. If you don't believe it, just go take a look...

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    2. Re:huh? by BeanThere · · Score: 1

      I've been using the 'definition' link *very* regularly for many years ... it's been my primary dictionary - Firefox, Ctrl+K, enter word, and click 'definition'.

    3. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      google "define: thesaurus"

    4. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh? What is a "Google word search definition?" Okay, click through to the LA times blog, which say, "Previously, the 'definition' button at the top right of all Google searches for words would direct users to entries on the Wikipedia-like Answers.com site. Now those links go to Google Dictionary, a less colorful, less cluttered interface." Double huh? Never noticed such a thing before. I did two Google searches on dictionary words just now, and neither one came up with a "'definition' button at the top right." I've never noticed one in the past, and I'm not seeing one now.

      http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4458/lovegooglesearch1260081.png

    5. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aparently the OP doesn't know what a thesaurus is.

      Yes, thesaurus does not mean dictionary, you'd know this if you'd looked up dictionary in the thesaurus or thesaurus in the dictionary.

    6. Re:huh? by complete+loony · · Score: 1

      For a very long time if you typed in "define:term" in any search request you'd get results that look pretty similar to what you now get in dictionary for their web terms. But no, I've never noticed a link or button anywhere either.

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  17. This is a Ginormous Step Forward... almost by Frankenshteen · · Score: 1

    Interesting the Chrome spell checker doesn't seem to be clued into the validity of this word.

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  18. Where's the thesaurus? by sir_montag · · Score: 1

    It lists synonyms, but where's a decent online thesaurus when you need one? I've tried a few and most of them are useless, or hopelessly ad-cluttered or both :/

  19. sweet ... new api by ubrkl · · Score: 1

    Hopefully this means a new API to go with the dictionary. API's are usually what I look forward to the most from these google launches.

  20. This should make the FTC happy by Jay+L · · Score: 4, Funny

    "We're a monopoly, you say? Sir, the word 'monopoly' is not even in my dictionary." ...in fact, everything from 'marzipan' to 'morass' seems to be missing.

    1. Re:This should make the FTC happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fairness, removing the term "morass" is certainly inconsequential to the /. community.

      Unless of course it's referring to seat size.

  21. International Phonetic Alphabet -- one step closer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    But what is with Google's pronunciation/phonetic spelling guide?

    ginormous /danms/ DJ listen /-nrm-/ DJ US listen /da'nrms/ KK US

    It follows the International Phonetic Alphabet, and I for one, don't like it. It's different. It's change. It's communism. I think it leads us one step closer to total Islamohitlerobamification.

  22. No ginormous? You need a better dictionary by Tim+C · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm 35 and was using the word "ginormous" as a kid. Sure enough, it's in the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary.

    1. Re:No ginormous? You need a better dictionary by osu-neko · · Score: 0, Troll

      I'm 35 and was using the word "ginormous" as a kid. Sure enough, it's in the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary.

      Indeed. I believe the word "ginormous" predates the Internet. Al Gore coined the term when describing the idea before it ever got implemented. ;)

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    2. Re:No ginormous? You need a better dictionary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You still are a kid. ;-)

  23. Wiktionary.org? by Lord+Satri · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It seems no one yet mentioned Wiktionary.org. Over 1 536 000 + in French, a similar number in English. While there's obvious room for improvement, it's generally usable and often useful.

    So here's my question, why does Google dives into a new initiative instead of jumping on existing trains? I guess the answers has something to do with control. Google wants to keep the control (which is understandable and not necessarily a bad thing). This Wiktionary-Google Dictionary is not the only example, Google Map Maker and OpenStreetMap.org is another one (both crowdsourcing map data, and yes, OSM was there much before).

    1. Re:Wiktionary.org? by icegreentea · · Score: 3, Informative

      Guessing you didn't RTFA. Or try the google link. Google Dictionary is still an definition aggregating thing from a bunch of sources (just like answers.com one). That includes wikitionary in the list.

    2. Re:Wiktionary.org? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Control, reliability, being able to create your own API and control that, etc. This is definitely something that would be integrated into Google's other services, and already can use Google Translate.

    3. Re:Wiktionary.org? by Nerdfest · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wow. French people have a different word for everything.

    4. Re:Wiktionary.org? by hansamurai · · Score: 1

      It could have just started as some junior level programmer's 20% time and bubbled up from there.

    5. Re:Wiktionary.org? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google dictionary references and aggregates definitions from Wiktionary. It's a dictionary aggregator, not a standalone dictionary in itself.

  24. Quietly? by devnullkac · · Score: 1

    Maybe they rolled it out quietly because, as dictionaries go, this one sucks. It's the only one I've ever seen that defines every word by using that word in a sentence. E.g. for the word "hold", we find:

    If one thing is used to hold another, it is used to store it.

    That's fine for a spelling bee, but in a dictionary, I prefer the more conventional (and more succinct) definition:

    to contain or be capable of containing

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    1. Re:Quietly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take another look. The very first thing it shows is "PHYSICALLY TOUCHING, SUPPORTING, OR CONTAINING". Then it goes on to show examples of use.

    2. Re:Quietly? by srjh · · Score: 1

      Doesn't work with everything - for instance, I first noticed that they switched when looking up the word comprise. It doesn't actually contain a definition, just a number of explanatory sentences and examples:

      "If you say that something comprises or is comprised of a number of things or people, you mean it has them as its parts or members."

      In fact, try a few words at random and you see this as a general pattern - very few words actually contain any definitions. It's the dictionary for people who don't know how to use a dictionary, and is pretty frustrating for those who can. Although it usually contains good definitions further down the page (e.g. wiktionary), I'll just have to remember to use those directly rather than googling it and clicking on the definition in the future.

  25. Interesting definition of hacker by onkelringnes · · Score: 1

    1. A computer hacker is someone who tries to break into computer systems, especially in order to get secret information.
    2. A computer hacker is someone who uses a computer a lot, especially so much that they have no time to do anything else. :D
    (The smiley was on me though)

    1. Re:Interesting definition of hacker by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      I guess it gives different people different results.
      Hacker

      1) a programmer who breaks into computer systems in order to steal or change or destroy information as a form of cyber-terrorism
      2) a programmer for whom computing is its own reward; may enjoy the challenge of breaking into other computers but does no harm; "true hackers subscribe to a code of ethics and look down upon crackers"

  26. A whole nother by meheler · · Score: 1

    Glad to see that "nother" still isn't a word, and that "irregardless" brings up the definition for "regardless" with a wikipedia entry explaining that "irregardless" is considered incorrect.

  27. Vocabulary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.google.com/dictionary?aq=f&langpair=en|en&q=puissant&hl=en

    Still has ways to go before it catches up with standard dictionaries.

  28. Where does Google get their definitions? by HockeyPuck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did they come up with their own definitions for all these words? Did they "scrape" someone else's dictionary? Or pay someone for their content?

    1. Re:Where does Google get their definitions? by iammani · · Score: 1

      RTFA, Google is doing just what answers.com used to do. They just aggregate other free dictionaries.

  29. Rape (In the Heat of the Night) OneLook delivers. by earls · · Score: 1

    Just the definition I'm looking for! Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia [home, info] I hope this comes from a reliable source.

  30. Google now defines your world. by earls · · Score: 1

    Oh, so that's how "Internet" got defined as "= Google".

  31. Ad Supported??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hopefully Answers.com wasn't paying the bills based on ad revenue... this is surely to hurt a bit if so.

    1. Re:Ad Supported??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even if it was donation or paywall supported, it will hurt them. People will simply start using google instead of answers.

  32. Help! by cyberzephyr · · Score: 1

    Where will i find out what EVOO is?

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  33. Old? by fafalone · · Score: 1

    Unless I'm missing something, there seems to be extremely little difference between this new service and what Google has displayed when you use define:whatever as a search query for as long back as I can remember.

  34. Mozilla Search Plugin for Google Dictionary by esfandia · · Score: 1

    I just created and submitted a Search Plugin for Google dictionary, but it's probably going to stay in the Mozilla Add-on sandbox until it gets a few reviews. I don't know if you need to be logged on to the add-on web site ( http://addons.mozilla.org/ ) to see it, review it or use it. Enjoy!

    1. Re:Mozilla Search Plugin for Google Dictionary by methamorph · · Score: 1

      I can't seem to be able to find it on mozilla's add-on site. Do you mind posting the link?

  35. It looks nice... by Alioth · · Score: 1

    It looks great, but I think I'll stick with WordReference.com.

    The great thing about Wordreference is not only does it give a definition and shows the word in several sentences in context (especially so in the English to Spanish and Spanish to English dictionaries) is that it has language forums, and posts about words and phrases are also linked from the dictionary lookup.

    One thing I'd like from a search engine or dictionary is the ability to look up grammar examples. For example, if I want to see if a certain construct is valid (well, at least, is in wide usage) I'd like to be enter something like this into a search engine (as a really simple example) "Mary (verb) a (noun)" - where it would search for sentences constructed with that structure. Or perhaps something more complex, specifying that the verb be a certain tense and mood.

  36. Old joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aparently the OP doesn't know what a thesaurus is.

    What's another word for Thesaurus?

  37. Definition link found by smithfarm · · Score: 1

    I had never seen it before, either, and I had the same reaction as you ("Huh?") to the term "Google word search definition". But I found it _is_ there, just very small and easy to miss.

    1. Go to Google
    2. Type in a single word (I typed "retch")
    3. In the bar just above where the search results start, on the far right, I see this:
    Results 1 - 10 of about 311,000 for retch [definition]. (0.34 seconds)

    The word "definition" in brackets is a link to Google Dictionary's page on "retch".

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    1. Re:Definition link found by bcrowell · · Score: 1

      I had never seen it before, either, and I had the same reaction as you ("Huh?") to the term "Google word search definition". But I found it _is_ there, just very small and easy to miss.

      I see. I originally tried it for the word "fermion," and no such button popped up. Apparently "retch" is in their dictionary, and "fermion" isn't. Wiktionary has both words, so based on this very small sample, it looks to me like google's dictionary is not very complete compared to Wiktionary.

  38. pronunciation by doug141 · · Score: 0, Troll

    I think it's odd Google lists as the only pronunciation of Gigabyte a hard "G", like in giggle, when that pronunciation is only a result of mispronunciation started in the 1990's (the root is the same as gigantic, soft "g"), AND YET they don't list the common mispronunciation of "nuclear." Is Google dictionary what they want the language to be instead of what researchers have found it is? Did the CRU researchers find new jobs at google or something?

    1. Re:pronunciation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people don't know about the correct pronunciation of giga as you described, so you must know your stuff like me. So I went to the google dictionary to test it using the following words:

      tigger
      bbq

      It should say that tigger "is one who tigs" and it should say that bbq is from haiti and involves cooking meat over sticks. It failed quite miserably on both tests. It even led me to the wrong conclusion in both cases.

      Sadly this proves to me that the google dictionary is a huge stinking pile of worthless poop.

  39. Google Defines "Slashdot".... by rcragun · · Score: 2, Funny

    Web definitions
    o Slashdot, sometimes abbreviated as /., is a technology-related news website owned by SourceForge, Inc. ...
    o To render a web site slow or unusable via the unusually large number of page requests that result from a link on a very popular web site; To ...
    o The act of self mutilation by an individual addicted to overclocking

  40. Hey Google! by ResidentSourcerer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So I played with the dictionary. Not bad. I like the multiple definitions, and possible links to chase down.

    But what I *really* want is a 'distinctive thesaurus' -- a dictionary that distinguishes between synonyms so that you can get closer to the perfect word.

    As an example,

    Consider the differences between

    Irony

    Sarcasm

    Sardony (Ok sardonic)

    Facetiousness

    All of them involve some degree of humour by stating things as they aren't.

    If I look up sarcasm on thesaurus.com I get a longer list, yielding words that range from near to distant in their connotations.

    acrimony, aspersion, banter, bitterness, burlesque, causticness, censure, comeback, contempt, corrosiveness, criticism, cut*, cynicism, derision, dig*, disparagement, flouting, invective, irony, lampooning, mockery, mordancy, put-down, raillery, rancor, ridicule, satire, scoffing, scorn, sharpness, sneering, superciliousness, wisecrack.

    Yes creating my own distinctions is possible. So is writing my own definition possible. But trying to define a word from my own experience with a word is hard, and frought with potential pitfalls where my mental model of the word world is defective, so even harder is it to define the differences between closely allied words.

    Anybody know of an online thesaurus that distinguishes between synonyms?

    My own crack at the above four.

    Irony applies to both statements and description. In events has a perverseness to it, poetic justice. In statements it has has less connotation of derision and mocking.

    Sardony has a bitter, derisive quality to it. The object of sardony is most often the speaker, less often the world generally. Self-deprecating on steroids.

    Sarcasm is a contrary statement intended to hurt someone else, to express contempt.

    Facetiousness is similar to sarcasm, but humour is it's main goal. There is no intent to hurt.

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  41. Poor Yahoo by Psaakyrn · · Score: 1

    Google and Bing both come up on top in definitions, but Yahoo gets hidden somewhere below (lower than it's messenger).

  42. use define: in Google query by dr_blurb · · Score: 1

    For the longest time I have been using
    define:<word>
    on Google. Try it. Make sure you put the colon.
    For example:
    define:hadron
    define:compunction
    etc.