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Amazon Launches Online Movie Studio

angry tapir writes "Amazon.com is getting into the movie business by opening Amazon Studios, with the goal of using the Internet to put fresh movies on the big screen. The new Internet movie studio will allow writers to upload screenplays to its website where the global Internet audience can read them and offer feedback, or producers/directors can use them to make test movies. The test movies, which must be at least 70 minutes in length, can also be uploaded."

68 comments

  1. Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm working on my screenplay.

    In it, a man is forced to eat his own beard.

    Thinking of calling it Razor.

    1. Re:Great! by milkmage · · Score: 1

      ORLY? I already bought the rights.. see you in court.

      http://www.ksn.com/mostpopular/story/Man-forced-to-eat-beard-during-fight/pow5UlsDDk6NQddMbS8dvw.cspx

      "Troy offered to buy it from me for $250. I paid $20 for it. He thought I was trying to cheat him," Westmoreland said. "One thing led to another, and before I knew it, there were knives and guns and everything just went haywire."

      He says his brother had a mark on his neck, where a knife was held, but Harvey Westmoreland's loss was more permanent.

      "They cut my beard and forced me to eat it," he said.

    2. Re:Great! by brusk · · Score: 1

      That's one kind of feedback, I guess.

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  2. Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Feedback is always important with any product. This is a great new way to critique movies, perhaps before they even come out on the big screen :)

    1. Re:Awesome by Shikaku · · Score: 1

      DOOM: Repercussions of Evil

      "John Stalvern waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were demons in the base. He didn’t see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Cernel Joson were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.
      John was a space marine for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the spaceships and he said to dad “I want to be on the ships daddy.”
      Dad said “No! You will BE KILL BY DEMONS”
      There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in the space station base of the UAC he knew there were demons.
      “This is Joson” the radio crackered. “You must fight the demons!”
      So John gotted his palsma rifle and blew up the wall.
      “HE GOING TO KILL US” said the demons
      “I will shoot at him” said the cyberdemon and he fired the rocket missiles. John plasmaed at him and tried to blew him up. But then the ceiling fell and they were trapped and not able to kill.
      “No! I must kill the demons” he shouted
      The radio said “No, John. You are the demons”
      And then John was a zombie."

    2. Re:Awesome by clarkkent09 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Feedback is always important with any product. This is a great new way to critique movies, perhaps before they even come out on the big screen

      Yes, I think this will be very useful. Especially since feedback will accurately represent the opinions of the movie going public:

      OpizzapieO First!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      babygirlz29 This is the most dumbs video Ever how lame losers 2who ever liked this just kiddin

      omar29180589 I like this movie

      CoolFilmz wtf! GAY!!!

      skunkystar9 Who the fuck are you talking to exactly, fucking idiot, and by the way America sucks ass ! oh and fuck Jesus and all your religious bull shite, , hahaha, your a tool ! FUCK YOU

      AMERICA1111 Ok idiot, you need a history lesson, are you too LAZY to learn the FACTS! You are probably PAID by me and the rest of the HARD WORKING AMERICAN WORKERS!

      turdbugs i hate niggers

      flyingcats lol i watch this when im high
       
      .....

      (random selection of actual youtube comments)

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    3. Re:Awesome by icebraining · · Score: 1

      Just filter out all comments with bad spelling, too many CAPS, less than 10 words or more than two consecutive exclamation marks.

    4. Re:Awesome by tehcyder · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Just filter out all comments with bad spelling, too many CAPS, less than 10 words or more than two consecutive exclamation marks.

      grammer NAZIi!!!!!

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    5. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would there be anything left? (These are my filler words to meet the 10 word requirement.)

    6. Re:Awesome by Phoghat · · Score: 1

      The radio said “No, John. You are the demons”

      It's over Johnny. Nothing is over.

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  3. Yes! by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 3, Funny

    My Hardcastle & McCormick reboot will live!

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  4. Great, let me submit my movie... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a prequel to Star Wars that doesn't suck.

    1. Re:Great, let me submit my movie... by Scotland+Tom · · Score: 1

      Wait... there's already been a Star Wars prequel? Since when?

    2. Re:Great, let me submit my movie... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was this one guy who had some ideas, but he had some goofy stuff like a racing scene, and apparently C3PO went around naked.

      Nobody was willing to appear in it.

  5. This could mean good things by btlyger · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Amazon is known for a lot more then books nowadays, and I'm really excited to see what they do with this. The more amazon dips competition into different markets (video game sales for instance) we've seen a lot of good things come out of it. Let's hope this project is just as successful. Also, wow, $100k a MONTH!

    1. Re:This could mean good things by AHuxley · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Do you really want a ~$40 to $x00 computer game with a remote delete option and compulsory limited activation keys?

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    2. Re:This could mean good things by Skreems · · Score: 1

      1. this is about movies
      2. the "limited activation keys" thing is SIMULTANEOUS, not total for all time, which for Kindle seems reasonable given that the books themselves are cheaper. At least it's a tradeoff you can decide upon for yourself, I thought it seemed reasonable. Also, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the story above.

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  6. hmm.. by JIKilo · · Score: 1

    This is dumb. Maybe people can express constructive criticism, but I don't think it will be very successful in the long run.

  7. Re:Critique this Please: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Disregard that, this idea is public domain.

  8. Hm by qbkspit · · Score: 0

    This could be a really good initiative, pretty interactive and user-generated too, since people don't really know about YouTube Movies, if Amazon takes off we could expect a better content in movies, because to be honest movies are horrible these days.

  9. This already exists by xclr8r · · Score: 3, Informative
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    1. Re:This already exists by wvmarle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Great but they miss the marketing push and existing mind share Amazon has.

      Like not so long ago was mentioned again: there is only room for monopolies on the Internet.

    2. Re:This already exists by Afforess · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Monopolies? I like economic theory as much as the next guy, but I can't see any evidence that Amazon is a monopoly. Pray tell, what commodity or service is Amazon the sole provider of? Hmm?

      I'm not disputing Amazon has a significant advantage, just your crazy economic ideas.

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    3. Re:This already exists by Seth+Kriticos · · Score: 1
    4. Re:This already exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Great but they miss the marketing push and existing mind share Amazon has.

      Like not so long ago was mentioned again: there is only room for monopolies on the Internet.

      I dont know why people keep propogating this myth. A monopoly and a company with a large market share are two completely different things. Let's say you are walking aimlessly around the sahara desert and you come across my lone market stall selling bottled water and there is nobody else (and more importantly, no water) around for miles. In that area, for that resource I would be a monopoly. If you want it, you have no other choice but to get it from me. THAT'S what a real monopoly is.

      Also - personally I can't even think of a sector that one business completely dominates online. Even Google, a commonly cited example (their market share varies wildly depending on who you ask - I've seen everything from 65% to 85% estimated) still has other competitors with decent 5% chunks that still amount to a lot of users and a s**t load of business. It is quite possible to make varying amounts of money in business. You don't just have paupers and billionaires - there is a hell of a lot in between.

      And it goes without saying, that all big businesses were small businesses once...

  10. Next step is net funding by AHuxley · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Max Keiser http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Keiser, a film-maker, broadcaster and former broker and options trader offers a vision of what this could really be like.
    http://www.piratemyfilm.com/pages/how_it_works shows how funding could work..
    "The system automatically creates enough shares to match the funds request and then makes those shares available for PMF members to reserve."
    Why just read and offer feedback when you could support a work from day one and perhaps share in some value.
    Great funding for a tech movie, drama, historical documentary, extreme sports, romance, cars ect.
    Get a forum or core supporters on any topic. No need for some grant, arts council or one person funding.

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  11. Great Launches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i love amazon

    1. Re:Great Launches by OakDragon · · Score: 1

      Can the scripts be in 3-D? Thank you.

  12. Re:Critique this Please: by AnonymousClown · · Score: 1

    Disregard that, this idea is public domain.

    No it's not. It's actually a Disney property and Pixar is making a movie to be released 2012. The title is "PIG-E" pronounced 'piggy'.

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  13. Re:Critique this Please: by skuzzlebutt · · Score: 1

    Pfft. That's just a ripoff of Pocahantas.

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  14. Screenplays with Moderation? by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 2

    So you can read screenplays of other people? Are you allowed to moderate them up or down? If so, Hollywood could just buy the highest moderated screenplay :P What could possibly go wrong?

    1. Re:Screenplays with Moderation? by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not sure, but if you go by the moderation here it we all know that the more you repeat something the funnier it is. There will be a Beowolf cluster of sharks with lasers ruled by an almighty army of ant overlords that we all for one welcome except in soviet russia where they welcome us as we fight off the vicious grammar Nazis. Staring Natalie Portman and Jon Katz. Its gold!

    2. Re:Screenplays with Moderation? by Sockatume · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Slashdot humour is solved by a self-consistent field method. You see a lot of the same gags because we're converging to the best joke. (There is an existence proof for the joke in question, and an accepted hypothesis that it involves leaves.)

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    3. Re:Screenplays with Moderation? by tehcyder · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So you can read screenplays of other people? Are you allowed to moderate them up or down? If so, Hollywood could just buy the highest moderated screenplay :P What could possibly go wrong?

      Reading a screenplay gives you very little indication of whether it will make a good film. It's like just seeing the lyrics to a rock song without the music.

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    4. Re:Screenplays with Moderation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Directed by M. Night Shyamalan

    5. Re:Screenplays with Moderation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hollywood, in all their originality, would download the screenplay then change the character name from Sam to Bill and the City from Pittsburgh to Philadelphia them make the movie. When the original author sues they will claim it was a completely different screen play and don't owe the author anything.

  15. What about the royalties? by brokentoilet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I see in the article that Warner Bros. would have right of first refusal for any script on the site, but does Amazon own the rights to the script or does the author?

    1. Re:What about the royalties? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      By uploading a script, you give Amazon the exclusive option to purchase the script for 18 months. If they don't exercise the option, you get the rights back after the 18 months. If they do choose to buy it, you get $200,000 and they own all the rights.

    2. Re:What about the royalties? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By uploading a script, you give Amazon the exclusive option to purchase the script for 18 months. If they don't exercise the option, you get the rights back after the 18 months. If they do choose to buy it, you get $200,000 and they own all the rights.

      which means you can't show your script to any other potential buyer for 18 months. Talk about lag.

    3. Re:What about the royalties? by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1

      Ehm, but you can show it? You just can't sell it, but if they're interested you could wait 18 month and sell it to them if Amazon doesn't buy it.

    4. Re:What about the royalties? by autophile · · Score: 1

      Fascinating. My screenplay is released under a Creative Commons license. There's no reason why a movie studio couldn't release a movie based on the screenplay (with my permission)... except that they want exclusive rights? That makes no sense.

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  16. flektor.com already did this and for free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    flektor.com already did this and for free
    http://www.crunchbase.com/company/flektor

    1. Re:flektor.com already did this and for free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or current.com

  17. Anyone remember Project Greenlight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds similar and that was a real trainwreck. There are plenty of fresh scripts out there they just never get read. They don't need a gimick they need to have people with talent reading the bloody scripts that get submitted. They are after sure things and the sure hit is basically a myth. I remember one of these type deals winning because the writer basically boasted of how great his script was. The script was unoriginal crap but the people behind it believed the hype. They want some one to tell them what's good because they haven't a clue what's good and bad.

  18. Litigation nightmare by initialE · · Score: 1

    We already know movie studios steal for a living. They steal from the consumer, the taxpayer, the director, the actors and anyone else involved. The term - Hollywood Accounting. Would Amazon be any different? Should we be making it easier for them to steal ideas now?

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  19. File formatting hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    According to the rules page of the Amazon writing contest, scripts are supposed to be uploaded in RTF format. This is a massive fail in my book, since scripts (unlike novels and stories) require strict formatting, something which RTF (as a least common denominator file format) isn't capable of. This is a job for a fixed layout format like PDF (or maybe TeX). From the rules:

    What file format should I use?

    Be sure to save your script in .rtf file format. Saving your script in .rtf format allows it to be opened and edited in all word processing applications. . To save your script correctly, choose the "Save as" option in the File menu and select "Rich Text Format (*.rtf)". Saving into Rich Text Format from a scriptwriting program such as Final Draft or Movie Magic Screenwriter can sometimes create issues with formatting and length, so be sure to go over your script once you've converted it and before you upload it to Amazon Studios.

    1. Re:File formatting hell by icebraining · · Score: 1

      What do screenplays require that RTF can't provide? It seems plenty of screenplay writing applications out there support RTF, and plenty of guides recommend using it to bridge between them, so it doesn't seem to lose formatting.

  20. what could possibly go wrong? by mug+funky · · Score: 1

    i can see Todd Solondz slated to direct an internet effort: The Adventures Of Pedobear In A Series Of Tubes

    seriously, this has far more potential to go bad than do good.

    that said, Snakes On A Plane was pretty cool for what it was.

  21. independent publishing by talcite · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm noticing that recently there has been a growing trend towards independent publication of books, music, movies, and other creative works.

    I really hope this continues to take off (with enthusiastic support from our wallets and voices) because it weakens the influence of the *IAAs and various copyright consortia that have an annoying habit of lobbying governments for legislation in no one's favour (not even the artists) but their own.

    1. Re:independent publishing by WWWWolf · · Score: 1

      I'm kinda torn about this. Publication channels have editorial control, which means a lot of people along the way will have to work toward making the final product into something that people might actually want to buy and enjoy and tell others about. This trend toward independence tends to think that raw output from one person is something that can be sold. It's rarely the case. People expect quality control. People expect to buy the books from regular stores, so you need to work out the distribution channels too.

      I'd just hope the same model that book publishers currently use would be applicable to other forms of art. People create works, publishers make them sell. Authors retain copyrights to their works. Author gets a non-refundable advance and agents get a percentage out of that, so the publisher has a motivation to recoup their loss. There are unions, but whether or not you're a member your chances of getting published are the same, and some unions require you to actually get something published first on your own. While authors are backed by giant corporate machinery, they still remain independent. Publishers don't really advertise their own brand, they have books that need promotion, and later on, it's the author's name that sells. There's just no room for *AA-like bullying in this scheme. If it rears its ugly head, people get grumpy. (example: SFWA's recent retarded effort to set up intricate anti-ebook-piracy effort which most people felt was waste of good money)

    2. Re:independent publishing by icebraining · · Score: 1

      In this particular case, we're talking about screenplays, not books. They are usually unknown to most people, unlike actors and directors. David Koepp worked on Jurassic Park, Mission Impossible and Spider-man, movies known by everyone and their dog. Does anyone besides people in the industry and heavy fans of the movies know him?

  22. Porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know you all thunk it.

    # No pornography. Movies like Risky Business are OK. Movies like Deep Throat are definitely not OK. You know what we mean.

    Not like getting porn out there is difficult, but at least they're trying to cut down on those submissions.

    Wonder what happens if you get a tasteful pornographic movie though.

    1. Re:Porn by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Wonder what happens if you get a tasteful pornographic movie though.

      Seriously reduced fappage, for a start.

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  23. Re:Critique this Please: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there a +1 - Insanely cynical mod? Or would that be a -1?

  24. One Word.... by owlnation · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Exploitation"

    Having read through the terms and conditions here, it looks like basically Amazon will pay you a token amount if the movie is made, whilst keeping all the millions for themselves.

    Just another parasitic middleman in the movie industry. The very last thing the movie industry needs is more middlemen. If you work in the movie industry you will already be very familiar with this type of scam run by all sorts of people and all sorts of websites. As well as many other similar scams run for actors, directors and other movie professionals, or hopefuls.

    Having Amazon now join in, adds an air of legitimacy to what is nothing more than a way of scamming writers. It may result in a break for a few amateur screenwriters. However with a bit of research, perseverance, and hard work, those same screenwriters could get a MUCH better deal for a viable screenplay.

    1. Re:One Word.... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      "Exploitation" Having read through the terms and conditions here, it looks like basically Amazon will pay you a token amount if the movie is made, whilst keeping all the millions for themselves. Just another parasitic middleman in the movie industry. The very last thing the movie industry needs is more middlemen. If you work in the movie industry you will already be very familiar with this type of scam run by all sorts of people and all sorts of websites. As well as many other similar scams run for actors, directors and other movie professionals, or hopefuls. Having Amazon now join in, adds an air of legitimacy to what is nothing more than a way of scamming writers. It may result in a break for a few amateur screenwriters. However with a bit of research, perseverance, and hard work, those same screenwriters could get a MUCH better deal for a viable screenplay.

      Nobody's forcing you to put your screenplay on Amazon. If you want to go it alone, Amazon aren't doing anything to prevent you. What's the problem?

      You're getting exposure on an extremely popular website, why should Amazon give you free publicity?

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    2. Re:One Word.... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Having read through the terms and conditions here, it looks like basically Amazon will pay you a token amount if the movie is made, whilst keeping all the millions for themselves.

      Just another parasitic middleman in the movie industry. The very last thing the movie industry needs is more middlemen. If you work in the movie industry you will already be very familiar with this type of scam run by all sorts of people and all sorts of websites. As well as many other similar scams run for actors, directors and other movie professionals, or hopefuls.

      Having Amazon now join in, adds an air of legitimacy to what is nothing more than a way of scamming writers. It may result in a break for a few amateur screenwriters. However with a bit of research, perseverance, and hard work, those same screenwriters could get a MUCH better deal for a viable screenplay.

      If you're an established screenwriter, you probably* won't use this. You already have the industry contacts to submit your screenplays to the big studios automatically.

      If you're NOT and established screenwriter, this can be a godsend. Hollywood rarely gives time to non-established people, just like book publishers rarely give time to new authors. They're a dime a dozen, and the vast majority of works being submitted are crap. In fact, unless you've already got industry experience AND have a track record, the big guys won't even consider you. (And how do you get a track record for good movies without being able to make good movies?).

      The only exception is if you know someone already and can get in via the networking backchannel rather than cold-calling.

      Amazon's just trying to be another player here, and they're letting people submit screenplays to them that the big guys won't even return your calls for. The reason for middlemen is to keep every idiot with an idea from ramming down the front gates every minute with their "million dollar story idea". These middlemen effectively filter things so the studios get the ones that'll probably make them the big bucks. And there's nothing stopping anyone from making the movie themselves and cutting out the middlemen - just get a few investors together, make the movie, and release it. There are plenty of indie film festivals who'll show your movie, BitTorrent, YouTube, etc.

      * - if you're a screenwriter whose movies bomb, you'll be blackballed as well. Amazon could offer a way to redeem yourself if you get something good.

    3. Re:One Word.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It may result in a break for a few amateur screenwriters. However with a bit of research, perseverance, and hard work, those same screenwriters could get a MUCH better deal for a viable screenplay.

      If those screenwriters agree with you, they'll do that. Otherwise they can try this route.

      Let's face it, 99.9% of everything written is worthless trash.

  25. Shares of ... Hollywood accounting profits? by Mathinker · · Score: 1

    That funding scheme would sound a lot more interesting if the industry being funded actually had a reputation for paying a fair return on its profits.

    1. Re:Shares of ... Hollywood accounting profits? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Yes http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/10/07/09/1621218/Hollywood-Accounting-mdash-How-Harry-Potter-Loses-Money has some great posts :)
      The funding scheme would be for one movie, no production profit moves, loans ect ;)

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  26. Oh the law suits to follow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So now when I post/upload some poor screenplay I can now sue any studio as they MIGHT have see my screenplay and used (or altered it and used it). I seem to recall something about studios not accepting unsolicited screenplays and material just to avoid such legal traps.

  27. What a rippoff by elrous0 · · Score: 1

    I sign the rights to my script away to Warner Bros. for the *chance* of winning a lousy $20,000? I don't think so. The only writers this will attract are really shitty ones, really dumb ones, and really desperate ones.

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  28. Just hope you never read it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The consequences could be dire:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gpjk_MaCGM

  29. For example, the name George Lucas at the top... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Reading a screenplay gives you very little indication of whether it will make a good film.

    I was going to reply that it gives an indication of whether it could make a good film. And then I realised it's more likely to tell you that it couldn't.

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  30. A different model by SoftwareArtist · · Score: 1

    This actually sounds a lot like an idea I've had for a different way the film industry could work: moving to a model where screenwriters publish their screenplays, much as playwrights publish their plays, and then anyone who wants to is free to making movies from them (paying appropriate royalties, of course), just as anyone who wants to is free to put on a production of a play. This seems to me like a better match for the internet age, where the equipment needed to make professional quality movies is inexpensive and widely available, and distribution is no longer a major obstacle.

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  31. It could have been so much better by jesselharris · · Score: 1

    I don't think Amazon thought through this very well. They could have created a real opportunity to fund films, instead it's just a social and pr stunt. This is not something that is good for filmmakers or will be helpful for film. Here's my full take on it: http://nffty.org/explore/your-say/amazon-the-movie-studio-yeah-right