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UK Seeks Stronger Partnership In Space Technology With India

tanujt writes "David Willett, British minister for Universities and Sciences has called for a stronger partnership between Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) and UK's space program. As of now, Willetts invited ISRO to partner the UK in its TechDemoSat program. TechDemoSat is an industry-led technology demonstration satellite which aims to provide a low-Earth-orbit test bed to help demonstrate the technical maturity and commercial viability of innovative new space technology. TK Alex, director of ISRO Satellite Centre, invited the UK to partner India in training space scientists through academic exchanges between the Indian Institute of Space Science and Technology, the Indian Institute of Remote Sensing and leading UK universities. This follows US President Obama's recent visit to India, wherein he signaled ending the ban on high-end technology exports and removal of Indian organizations, including ISRO and Defense Research & Development Organization (DRDO), from the Entity List."

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  1. When I see stuff like this ... by AnonymousClown · · Score: 5, Insightful
    it looks more and more like we're approaching a 'Star Fleet/Star Trek' type of World. More power to'em, I say. Better to build space ships than nuclear bombs.

    And It sure and hell beats a 'Blade Runner' type of World.

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    1. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by MichaelKristopeit197 · · Score: 1

      wesley crusher's nanites will kill us all.

    2. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah but he's with Star Fleet - he never lies.

    3. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by bucketoftruth · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think you're forgetting the pleasure cyborgs in Blade Runner.

    4. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by El+Torico · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...still mostly an religion-ridden oligarchy where family and caste connections buys you (or excludes you) from education, position and power.

      Just substitute "class" for "caste" and you've just described both the UK and more so the US.

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    5. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by tanujt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who is talking about outsourcing tech jobs? RTFA, it's PARTNERSHIP. This stereotype is not amusing anymore.
      In any case, given India's recent achievements in space tech, your mistrust in ISRO's abilities stands to question.

      And if you are implying that India is the ONLY religion-riddled caste-discriminating nepotistic country, then I don't know where you've been getting your news from lately.

      Dealing with one person from IIRS (mind you, that's NOT the place that builds the remote sensors, it's an educational institute), you can NOT possibly build an opinion about the whole organization. To build a sensible statistic AND make claims, you need a sample space. Not just one sample.

    6. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In as much as those elements are still present? Yes. Present to the same degree? No. Not even close.

    7. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by Threni · · Score: 1

      Making points by asking questions? Yes. Really annoying habit? Of course? Did you learn this by watching dumbed down US tv news? Certainly.

    8. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by ap7 · · Score: 1

      Have you ever been to India? Or is this just anti asian vitriol that you are spewing because of the pent up rage about the many things in your life that seem out of your control?

      India and China are only trying to get back to the eminence that they held centuries ago - before western countries went about destroying their economies so that they could make their own countries wealthier. Read up on history a bit. Start with the East India Company.

    9. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The mental stench of your racism sure managed to propagated through the vacuum in your skull.

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    10. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you learn this by watching dumbed down US tv news? Certainly.

      You assume he watches US television news. Do you assume he's from the US and not the UK?

      If so, why? After all, the article concerns the UK and India.

      You sound like a bigoted little troll to me, sweetie.

    11. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      You're proof that racists are so fucking stupid they can't even work out how to post Anonymously.

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    12. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      GGP's tone did sound more American than English, but that may just be because he watches a lot of TV.

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    13. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by astar · · Score: 1

      when I see stuff like this..

      I thinj,,,

      Everyone sane has obama and the US's number and is giving him and us the cold shoulder. But India was willing to play with Obama. Now India has big big deals going on with Russia and even China and the implications are disasterous for anglo-american geopolitics. So we all know the front end of anglo-american geopolitics is going down big time, but the underlying policy is chaos and war, and I suspect they will get that one way or another. But this announcement is just part of the fallout from the willingness of India to play.,

      So why did India play? It is easy to say the difference between China and US is that China is not run by idiots. The Brits are pretty easy to understand, if you willing to think about nasty stuff. But India is a puzzle for me. After all, they really really have to have nuke power big time. So you would figure that they would be skittish about playing with the anglo-americans. Ah well. Probably some new formulation of BRIC, mophing from the last failed version. It is not exactly being idiots, but big time blinders.

    14. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by MrNemesis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And It sure and hell beats a 'Blade Runner' type of World.

      Britain is already a Blade Runner world! It's perpetually raining, the colonies went to war with us because they didn't want us interfering, the workforce is run by corporate oligarchs who have their brains programmed to only think and know certain things and undercover police go around "retiring" Brazilian electricians.

      Disclaimer for all about to mod me as troll: I'm British, and an ex girlfriend is an (ex) space scientist; she shifted careers a year ago due to manufacture in europe being too expensive for most prospective clients. This is just a move to get what little remains of our manufacturing exported overseas. Mod me -1 cynical instead.

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    15. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Better to build space ships than nuclear bombs.

      Can't we have both?

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    16. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am English, and I only ever watch television if I can be bothered to torrent it. You did get one assumption right though - I am male.

    17. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      But, you posted anonymously, so you're probably a completely different person just trying to troll.

    18. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by mahadiga · · Score: 1

      Caste and corruption form the backbone of India's integrity.
      Corruption free India == Disintegration of India

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    19. Re:When I see stuff like this ... by Phoghat · · Score: 1

      Can't we all just get along?

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  2. Houston, we have a problem. by quenda · · Score: 0, Troll

    > Houston, we have a problem.

    "Good day, mine name is Sanjay, how can I be helping you today?"

    > Is that Houston?

    "Thankyou. Mission control has been relocated to Mumbai. Can I start by getting your mission number please?"

    1. Re:Houston, we have a problem. by Rogerborg · · Score: 0

      Please to note that Sanjay in Mumbai will now claim to be Simon in Manchester. What's the weather like there, Simon? [Tap tap tap] It is partially overcast, with 40% chance of showers later.

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    2. Re:Houston, we have a problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A mere 40% in Manchester? Never!

      The only thing he ever needs to say is "Pissing down."

  3. Meh! by zmollusc · · Score: 1

    The UK should be researching time travel instead. Then they could go back fifty years and prevent the UK aerospace industry (with its stand-off missiles, supersonic VTOL close support aircraft, supersonic all-weather low-level strike aircraft, hybrid jet/rocket interceptors, reusable spaceplanes etc) from being scrapped. Who knew that those things would ever be any use?

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    1. Re:Meh! by Rogerborg · · Score: 1

      Quick note: if you have all those things, you tend to try to find uses for them. It's cheaper to drop obsolescent bombs on some dusty armpit than to decommission them.

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    2. Re:Meh! by taylorius · · Score: 1

      Hear hear! When I look back at what the UK's aerospace industry back in the 60s, it makes me weep for what we've lost. These days, wherever you look, there's just an endless web of interconnected consultants, sub contractors and outsourcers, soaking up money in the name of "maximising efficiency". Inevitably little or nothing gets achieved, and it's never anyone's fault. We need companies like SpaceX, which really seems to have some of that old "get it done" attitude.

    3. Re:Meh! by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "It's cheaper to drop obsolescent bombs on some dusty armpit than to decommission them."

      You are babbling utterly scornworthy nonsense which there isn't the slightest reason for even laypersons to believe. There is MUCH more to missions and mission support than "wingy thing fly drop bomb".

      Sorties are tremendously complex to generate and support. Shipping conventional ordnance for disposal is much cheaper, and using it for live training (training sorties will happen either way), hauling it to a range and having the EOD folks blow it up, etc is far cheaper than a combat mission. There is MUCH more to missions and mission support than "wingy thing fly drop bomb". (BTW I'm a former F-4 Phantom and OV-10 Bronco Avionics troop, and F-16 A/B/C/D Engine mech, and later Crew Chief.)

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    4. Re:Meh! by Rogerborg · · Score: 1

      But who are people going to believe? Some warmonger spanner monkey grunt, or a random intartubes poster who feeds their liberal wrath?

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  4. Space Curry by knotprawn · · Score: 1

    Yippee! No more dehydrated rations. Say hello to space curry!

  5. stop with the call centre jokes already! by kaka.mala.vachva · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I was going to type, lets see how many posts we manage before the call centre ad "jokes" creep in, but looks like I was too late.

    1. Re:stop with the call centre jokes already! by tehcyder · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What with that and the bleating about outsourcing, together with some simple old-fashioned racism, I was expecting this to be an entirely content-free thread.

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  6. Best news I've read in ages! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is fantastic news! Strengthen international relationships (which lets face it do need some TLC) and forward Space exploration. Double win!

  7. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    UK law prohibits sending a UK citizen into space so guess they are doing this deal so they can send Indians into space instead, thereby circumventing said law

    1. Re:Anonymous Coward by PeterBrett · · Score: 1

      UK law prohibits sending a UK citizen into space so guess they are doing this deal so they can send Indians into space instead, thereby circumventing said law

      [Citation needed]. The UK is a member of ESA; ESA has British astronauts; ergo the UK sends UK citizens into space.

    2. Re:Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      UK law prohibits sending a UK citizen into space so guess they are doing this deal so they can send Indians into space instead, thereby circumventing said law

      [Citation needed]. The UK is a member of ESA; ESA has British astronauts; ergo the UK sends UK citizens into space.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_space_programme#British_astronauts

    3. Re:Anonymous Coward by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      UK law prohibits sending a UK citizen into space so guess they are doing this deal so they can send Indians into space instead, thereby circumventing said law

      What in fuck's name are you on?

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  8. Re:This is insane. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    And if there's anything a moron like you should have learned from past history, it is that ISRO has had almost a 100% success rate in rocket launches. And at a damn low rate too.

  9. Re:This is insane. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Right. Because the Commonwealth games managers are the ones handling the space program too. Oh, wait...

  10. We're a beautiful snowflake on the face of Earth by tanujt · · Score: 1

    Looking at everything that's going on in this thread, it goes to show that it's going to be excruciatingly difficult to able to get out of the cesspool of history. Harmless stereotypical jokes aside, it seems people are not going to take each other seriously unless they look/talk the same and come from a "familiar" land. Let alone build space tech together.

    Welp, it's at the least going to be interesting to see how far we go like this until the next blatant colonization effort.

  11. wheels within wheels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The UK wouldn't be trying to bypass French dominance of ESA and punch above its weight by leveraging the Commonwealth would it?

    Interesting stuff; India is certainly developing the economy to support a reasonable space programme and an Hindi-Anglo operation could create a serious commercial competitor to ESA and even NASA.

    Two lessons to remember though; India has absorbed other cultures and made them its own many, many times. Despite what the British seem to think God does not sit at our right hand; there's nothing to stop it doing it to us. And the Hindi word for Englishman was their transliteration of the English word foreigner; 'Ferengi'. The two countries are kind of only friends by unhappy accident and there's a lot of unpleasant history in there.

    And now we're going into space together? Fun times ahead.