Nature Publisher Launches PLoS ONE Competitor
linhares writes "Nature's Publishing Group is launching a new journal, Scientific Reports, announced earlier this month. The press release makes it clear that it is molded after PLoS ONE: 'Scientific Reports will publish original research papers of interest to specialists within a given field in the natural sciences. It will not set a threshold of perceived importance for the papers that it publishes; rather, Scientific Reports will publish all papers that are judged to be technically valid and original. To enable the community to evaluate the importance of papers post-peer review, the Scientific Reports website will include most-downloaded, most-emailed, and most-blogged lists. All research papers will benefit from rapid peer review and publication, and will be deposited in PubMed Central.' Perhaps readers may find it ironic that PLoS ONE, first dismissed by Nature as an 'online database' 'relying on bulk, cheap publishing of lower quality papers to subsidize its handful of high-quality flagship journals' seems to be setting the standards for 'a new era in publishing.'"
Of course. Molded. Covered with fur, I'm sure.
It being Nature group is no guarantee of success or high impact. And we have no idea if they are in it for the long haul or if they'll bail in a few years if the uptake is low. I'd just wait a couple of years and see what happens to it before submitting a paper there. Meanwhile, PLoS has a good impact factor, large readership and doesn't have a limit on the number of accepted papers so that's a better option for now.
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To what end, I ask, to what end?
Um, I'm pretty sure the end will be the last page of the current issue.
To the end of "Readers decide what research is the most relevant and important" rather than editors. "This is good science but we think it just isn't interesting to enough people, so we aren't going to publish it and you'll have to publish it in a lower tier journal" is a less than ideal situation, especially when which journals you publish in makes a difference on your CV. ... or am I responding to a nonsense, off topic post?
Maybe now we can end the awful hegemony of the so-called "scientists" who would try to use their so-called "data" to show that God did not in fact create the world in 6 days or that the burning of fossil fuels (preferably drilled from beneath so-called "wildlife refuges") is not in fact excellent for the environment.
You are welcome on my lawn.
It seems journal editors have finally entered the technological age. Congrats. A similar idea they have yep to adopt (at least in social science) is a journal for null findings. The closet drawer problem still hasn't gone away.
http://www.skepdic.com/filedrawer.html
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...but fuck you. Will you make your oldest articles available for download? I still can't get over that 1928 article on capillary effect that is STILL BEHIND A PAYWALL! Nature embodies all that is wrong with scientific journals. Not the worst, but definitely emblematic.
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
I thought PNAS was stupid because it looks like you're supposed to pronounce it P-NAS, which sounds like "penis", but no one listened to my warning.
Information theory is life. The rest is just the KL divergence.
Now, as Martin Fenner said, "Let's see how authors will respond to this and whether it will be possible 10 years from now to distinguish papers published in Nature, Nature Communications and Scientific Reports."
That's all that's really needed.
Build your own energy sources from scratch. http://otherpower.com/
So this is mainly a long-awaited response to BioMed Central and its subsequent acquisition by Springer (http://www.biomedcentral.com) and others like it (there are a few) using the Open Access model prototyped by Gene Garfield, Vitek Tracz and others, surely. Nothing new, merely late bandwagon-jumping, surely.
Looks like Nature just PONE'd themselves!!
It being Nature group is no guarantee of success or high impact.
Given the press release which mentions that the publication is supposedly for "natural sciences" which includes physics, geology, chemistry etc. but then goes on to say that all articles will be deposited in PubMed Central which is for "biomedical and life sciences". If that is the level of thought behind this journal then I have to say that it is remarkably unimpressive.
At least in the fields I pay attention to (mainly statistics) the best open access journal is arXiv.org. I thought it was also the highest profile free computer science journal.
Most people use it for publishing articles while they get them published in a peer reviewed journal, but they have been the main publisher for some very high profile work, such as Perelman's papers proving the Poincare conjecture.
If this is the future of academic journal publishing, I'll take the past, please. I don't mind accessibility, and I don't mind creative commons, but I do mind it when the journal reaches a point of being a parasite. I'm talking about author fees.
As far as I know, most journals pay for their publications via subscriptions from university libraries. They don't do it using a vanity press model, where they take money from the authors for publication. Both of the online journals mentioned here - PLoS and Scientific Reports, are charging scientists over a thousand dollars for publication.
I'm sorry, but speaking as an author, a researcher (who has co-written a peer reviewed journal article waiting for publication in a Classics journal), and a publisher, this is just wrong. It's taking advantage of academics who are desperate to publish in a "publish or perish" environment, and relieving them of their money. And, because the journal article authors are paying for publication, it will likely carry a taint that may undermine the legitimacy of any peer review the article passed.
Frankly, if this sort of parasitic business model is the projected future of academic publishing, I think it's best if it's skipped. The old model was better.
Robert B. Marks
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The 2011 APC rate will be US$1350/GB£890/ EURO1046 per accepted manuscript*. Authors will have a choice of two non-commercial Creative Commons (CC) licenses. NPG will make an annual donation to Creative Commons equivalent to $20 per APC paid for publication in Scientific Reports
So, I'll pay (roughly) my net income for a single month to publish, of which $20 goes to CC? This is ridiculous!
I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
Oh come on now - you can't just lump creationists and non-hippies in the same category. If anything the creationists go with the bat-shit-insane hippies.
Lots of the commercial journals charge page fees. Academic researchers (it doesn't sound like you are one, even though you have a paper in press) get those fees paid by their departments. They don't come out of pocket. For the research institutions, it's just one of the many expenses associated with research, including lab equipment, secretarial support, photocopying, scotch tape, etc, more than retrieved by the subscriptions savings fees at the other end. Also, PLOS One waives the publishing fee for authors with insufficient funds:
source.
Would it really have hurt to explain what PLoS ONE:stands for just once?
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
"Please pay up"
Nature journals don't charge publishing costs.
Perhaps readers may find it ironic that PLoS ONE, first dismissed by Nature as an 'online database' 'relying on bulk, cheap publishing of lower quality papers to subsidize its handful of high-quality flagship journals' seems to be setting the standards for 'a new era in publishing.'
Yes! It is ironic.
Whenever in an argument, remember this.
Why not? The bat-shit crazy, right-wing Christians own the oil companies -- for example, George Bush.
I don't think the Christian Right and Big Oil are a different subset of America. Sarah Palin is definitely in favor of drilling under "wildlife refuges" and she's a Christian idiot.
The entire Tea Party is a demonstration of the fact that the creationists and non-hippies are the same brand of idiot -- you know, God created America so we can drill for oil, run the world, and cheat everybody out of their stuff.
The hippies are more likely to disagree with both of these groups, often at the same time.
The importance of the PLoS is that the content is freely available. This is invaluable for anyone interested in trying to understand scientific advances, but not interested, or not able, to pay $30+ per article. The PLoS means that I can review complete text articles with supporting documents, rather than rely on press releases for information. This means I can write a better review (http://www.lancashiremcs.org.uk/ - focussed on marine science), which I hope makes for better public understanding and access, and a higher profile for the scientists publishing there. I hope PLoS will result in 'open source science', and am happy to do my bit in promoting it whenever I can!