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China Detects 10 Cases of Radiation Contamination, 2 In Hospital
According to an article at The Sydney Morning Herald, "China has detected 10 cases of radioactive contamination among passengers, aircraft, ships and containers arriving from Japan since March 16, quarantine authorities said on Saturday. On Wednesday, radiation exceeding permitted levels was detected on two ships from the Japanese port of Chiba, near Tokyo, in the ports of Nantong and Zhangjiagang, Li Yuanping, spokesman of the General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine, said on its website." Meanwhile, airborne radiation from Japan is detectable in China, but thus far not considered a danger.
Abnormally high radioactivity was first detected on a ship that arrived from Japan at the southeast port of Xiamen on March 22.
Two Japanese travellers were briefly hospitalised the next day with elevated radiation levels after arriving in eastern China on a commercial airliner from Tokyo. Their clothing and luggage was destroyed.
Not destroying your luggage: 60 dollars ($50 if paid at least 24 hours before check-in).
You can't take the sky from me...
I for one welcome our new radioactive overlords.
this being from China, we must assume this is a political maneuver, and that any truth behind it is incidental.
Given the long standing animosity between the Japanese and the Chinese, and the Chinese Gov't's total control of information, now much of this is true and how much is PR to smear Japan?
My personal guess is that it has just enough truth in it to be irrefutable but little basis in actual fact. The chinese immigration goons could just have been told to grab 2 passengers at random and tell them they're contaminated and haul them off to the gulag^W hospital.
With the radiation level dropping lower and lower to 0.1-2 uSv/h, way below what you'd get from a single flight (40 uSv), this is just another case of the Chinese hating the Japanese. Maybe I'm not so used to the way "mainlanders" think anymore, having move from liberal Hong Kong to Europe years ago, but IMO it really is time to leave the past behind. Sadly, judging from the timing of broadcasting nationalistic WW2 documentary directly after the quake and now this, I guess it will take another generation at least.
The end of the world is near!!
You thought lead is bad, not you have radio-active lead in the stuff.
"Made in China" - it's even worse than you thought.
Than to allow these type of false alarm / fear mongering articles on their main page. No actual numebrs mentioned in article 1. Article 2 makes it pretty clear there is no danger. Nothing to see here, please move on.
I must hunt and kill my very own Totoro! This earthquake is ruining everything...
It's like the mind going AWOL, it's there somewhere
There seems to be problems tracking long term health records in societies with lots of nukes.
Recording health records of radiation related health problems of radiation from a long term leak like Daiichi seems to be non-existent. In fact, will be difficult to establish as it can only be bad news and there are interests that would not want to keep tracking this information. The interests that would want to track public health are general and dispersed, the interests that do not want to track this information are concentrated and rich.
I can make no sense of the just the radiation tracking, multiple groups and schemes seem to be doing a patchy job. Obvious conflicts of interest in the radiation tracking groups especially TEPCO seem to be weak. Can no one stick a sensor in those clouds of white and black smoke coming out of the plant? We are not electing a pope here. Do some science already.
People blame the media, but the transparency of the radiation tracking is obviously lacking.
Serves them right, being baby killers donchano !!
Set phasers on 'destroy'
From what news sources in Korea (much closer to Japan than China) have been saying throughout, increased radiation is being detected but it's not to the level where you'd have health concerns or need to destroy anything. Similarly I don't recall reading of radiation levels in japan itself (eg. Tokyo) that might point to the need to destroy luggage or hospitalise people .. maybe the people from near the reactor might cause concern but I think their concern would be for their homes and family rather than with travelling to china.
I have to say that this sounds like propaganda from the CCP.
You can detect (and identify) the radiation from the atmospheric bomb testing that took place decades ago! Radiation detection equipment is extremely sensitive. Without numbers (and units) "detected" means absolutely nothing. Please /. stop reporting this non-news, it's just infuriating to anyone with even a basic understanding of radiation safety/physics.
The /. article title helps propagate the widespread popular confusion between radiation and radioactive materials. Radiation helps you detect contamination with radioactive materials, similar to how light helps you detect the sun. The editor should have stuck with either of the phrasings from the first link -- "10 cases of radiation" or "10 cases of radioactive contamination" -- rather than combine them.
than the fear and hysteria in the media, are comments like you see under slashdot articles about this nuclear tragedy claiming, basically "no big deal"
false alarmism: wrong
false complacency: equally wrong
do you know how much fucking radiation that plant is leaking into the environment? if an appreciation of how much nuclear radiation is going into the environment from fukushima does not sober you up, you are a grade aaa usless asshole
at least the hysterical can plead ignorance. what's your excuse asshole?
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Par for the course, the Slashdot crowd hates on China irrationally, and it gets moderated up due to the ridiculous groupthink. What, you need another Soviet Union to blame everything on and which you can reflexively call evil everything that comes out of there? Aren't you still busy hating on the Arabs?
Here is how Radiation effects the human body: http://www.standeyo.com/News_Files/NBC/radiation.human.body.html http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/radiation-dosage-chart/ Radioactive water found leaking into sea from pat at Japan nuclear plant. This can be devastating to say the least to all humankind! The effects of radiation sickness and poisoning include cancer, genetic and reproductive damage, hormonal damage, and thyroid blockage (that's why they want you to take potassium iodine, another dangerous toxin) but I wouldn't. There are much safer substances like Zeolites. A couple good articles on radiation sickness protection that shows what you need do to test radiation levels, treat water, and what to take internally to not get sick: Water Purification Tablet Radiation Sickness
So instead of feeling sorry for the japanese people, they attack them politically by faking radiation sickness? Awful as usual.
This could be another blow for japan that has already been going through so much of hardships, if travel to japan becomes unsafe then no one will be going there, also the japanese economy has suffered heavily in the last few weeks due to the natural calamities that have taken place.
Apart from the sheer idiocy of that expression beloved of Tea Partiers, how many subsistence hunters do you think there are in Bavaria? - which is one of the world's most advanced states. Bavarian hunters don't usually need to live off their wild boar, they visit the supermarket on their way home from the BMW plant, or maybe the research establishment at Garching. This is just one of the silliest posts I've read in a long time.
(I now also recollect that I ate some Bavarian wild boar in Regensburg just a few years after Chernobyl, so the GGP post is probably unusually disinformational even for /.)
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
Good idea, why not start now?
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
As is too often the case, the slashdot summary is a bit inaccurate. First, the phrase "thus far not considered a danger." has a link to an article that says that the National National Nuclear Safety Administration (NNSA) does not consider traces of iodine-131 in that air to be a danger. It says nothing about ships, containers or luggage. In addition I would like to encourage anyone writing these summaries not to use such ambiguous language: saying something is not considered dangerous is almost always untrue. Someone, somewhere considers everything to be a danger, and this goes double for radiation. Correct wordings include "not considered a danger by the NNSA", or "not considered a danger by the authorities" "is believed to not pose any danger". Simple negation goes a long way. While I am nitpicking, if they don't consider this dangerous why are they destroying people's luggage?
it is not about 'hate' it is about the basic historical reality of the chinese government.
the baby milk scandal was covered up and whistleblowers put in prison
SARS more of the same
if there were a nuclear accident in China, the government would lie about that too
every government lies, but China has a special affinity for putting anyone who points this out into prison for long periods of time and harassing and abusing their families.
The "banana dose" was of course propaganda crap dating back to the time of TMI and assuming that all potassium in the banana was the radioactive isotope. Real bananas don't have more than traces of radioactive potassium in them. The banana dose was a deliberate attempt to confuse the issue and trivialise the radiation exposure issue - which is odd because TMI really didn't release much so there was no need of such stupid propaganda.
One "banana dose" is equivalent to the dose you would get from somehow sharing the same space as 166,000 tons of unusually radioactive coal - that's how unrealistic and inflated above the background it is.
I live in Japan and I can tell you that China did not immediately send support; they sent a handful of people after several days, and finally ramped things up when it ...
After the quake, a 15 men rescue team was sent along with tons of supplies and money donation
The version I've heard from Chinese media was Chinese government organized a much larger rescue team within 24 hours of earthquake. But Japanese government held up the offer, gave priority to it's western allies first, before finally accepting a much smaller sized 15-men rescue team from China.
While Japanese government's action is understandable from a political stand point, it none the less had hurt Chinese people's feeling. Now seeing troll like you claiming falsified information is like putting salt on the wound.
This is business as usual for relations between Japan and China. Google last year's scuffle when a Chinese trawler rammed a Japanese coast guard ship and see what you get.
And the tension between China-Japan relationship is largely contributed by trolls like you on both side.
The government and press is so unreliable that the population is subject to panics:
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/18/world/la-fg-china-iodine-salt-20110318
I call "same kind of thing."
Give a man a fish and you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish, and he'll say "WHERE'S MY FISH, YOU IDIOT?"