Australian ISPs To Start Filtering the Internet

daria42 writes "Australia's controversial mandatory internet filtering scheme may be on the backburner for now, but that doesn't mean it's gone entirely. In the next month, the country's two largest ISPs, Telstra and Optus, will start voluntarily filtering users' connections for a list of URLs containing child pornography. The only thing is, the users themselves don't seem to have much choice in the matter — and as the Electronic Freedom Foundation points out — there are no avenues for appeal for those websites which may feel they've been unfairly blocked."

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Dupe isn't even a day old!!

[thegarbz]

Like seriously it's almost on the same page WTF Editors!

Re:Dupe isn't even a day old!!

[tecker]

Dupe isn't even a day old!!

Oh I am going to be modded into oblivion for this, and likely loose some karma, but it was actually ~27 hours (4:20 am for article1 on 6-23, 7:19am for article2 on 6-24).

However this trend is quickly becoming problematic and approaching same front page dupes and soon both in the 15 count RSS feed. Do the editors even read the site?

Re:Dupe isn't even a day old!!

[jimboindeutchland]

It's not fantastic at all!

doop

[Anonymous Coward]

doop

Again ?

[CharlyFoxtrot]

Maybe the editors are in Australia and the previous story was censored there ?

Re:Again ?

[Anonymous Coward]

Maybe the editors are in Australia and the previous story was censored there ?

What previous story?
And why post a dead link?

Re:Again ?

[arse maker]

It's not going to be long before we are behing the great kangaroo firewall while this dipshit Conroy is around.

Re:Again ?

[thegarbz]

Being that the other story is only like a day old it may just be the time difference.

Actually, they do.

[Anonymous Coward]

"The only thing is, the users themselves don't seem to have much choice in the matter"

They could switch to a different ISP if they had any sense. Though anyone still on Telstra these days is demonstrably lacking in that.

Re:Actually, they do.

[royallthefourth]

Is Australia really so fortunate that the users have the ability to switch? In many cities here in the USA, you've got unimpressive cable internet and if you're in the right spot, even worse DSL as an option. I've always been under the impression that people in the rest of the anglophone world were trapped in similar situations.

Re:Actually, they do.

[Lunix Nutcase]

Ahh, this is such a great canard. Do all people have such a choice? And how long until they are all filtering so that even the people with a choice lose them?

Re:Actually, they do.

[MichaelSmith]

Is Australia really so fortunate that the users have the ability to switch?.

Sort of. The local copper loop to the home is generally owned by Telstra, but the federal government mandates that they must lease access to other service providers. The price is fixed and both sides complain more or less continually that it is either too high or too low. My internet service comes from comcen through telstra wires which must be 30 or 40 years old. Optus and Telstra both have co-axial cable to many homes but the cable services are more expensive than ADSL through copper, possibly due to there being less competition and regulation.

Re:Actually, they do.

[Anonymous Coward]

No, not all people have the choice, but the vast majority do. Greater than 99.9%. Only a few obscure rural areas are exclusively telstra-serviced. Australia's present broadband is almost entirely ADSL, not cable.

Re:Actually, they do.

[Qzukk]

I think his question being that if telstra owns the wires, how long before telestra enforces filtering on everyone using them, just like bell canada throttling the users of ISPs reselling bell canada lines.

Re:Actually, they do.

[kirbysuperstar]

Generally. In some cases you're just plain SOL. For example, I live in a proper, built up area (Palm Beach, QLD), but my nearest exchange is 3KM away, so ADSL2 is next to pointless. I could get cable, but the prices for that are disgusting. The best I can do without loosening my belt and bending over every time the bill comes in is 1500kbps ADSL1. But oh, the glorious NBN will save me! Damn it.

Re:Actually, they do.

[Cimexus]

Dual American and Australian citizen here with houses in both countries, so I have some knowledge about this.

In general, yes, Australia is that fortunate. Note that I say 'in general' - there will no doubt be some indignant person in Australia that replies to this and says "I can only get Telstra". But if you live in the major cities that contain ~90% of Australia's population, and you have a phone line, you almost always have a choice of anywhere between half a dozen, and 20+ ISPs. The reason for this is that, although Telstra owns the last-mile copper phone lines to people's houses, they are mandated by law that they must wholesale access to that infrastructure to any other ISP who wants it. Thus, most people DO have a fairly wide choice of available ISPs (some may simply be reselling Telstra's access, but that's good enough if your aim is simply to change to an ISP that doesn't do this filtering).

There are a lot of things wrong with the state of broadband in Australia: slow speeds due to aging infrastructure, congestion due to underinvestment in backhaul and wide deployment of RIMs during the 90s (which are fine for lines used for voice/dialup, but block xDSL connections) etc. Restrictive download caps also used to be a problem, though now you can affordably get multi-hundred-GB caps and some ISPs are offering 1TB+ per month, so I think caps are quickly becoming a non-issue. BUT - ~choice~ of ISP is generally, one thing that is far better in Australia than in the US.

Comparison: my place in the US and my place in Australia are both in small-mid sized cities, roughly comparable in population. I have a choice of over 20 ADSL2+ (up to 24 Mbps) ISPs at my place in Australia. In the US I have a choice of precisely 1 DSL provider, and at only 6 Mbps! (AT&T). There is also a choice of precisely 1 cable provider (which, although faster than the US DSL connection, is only roughly as fast as the ADSL2+ connection I have in Australia and costs almost 3 times as much).

So yeah, basically, Australian internet is screwed up in many, many ways. But choice and speeds are, on average, better than in the US. (Unless you are lucky enough to be in a FiOS enabled area in the US ... wish i was!)

Re:Actually, they do.

[BrokenHalo]

Also, for those of us not on a wired connection, Telstra mostly offers far better mobile connections to rural and remote areas which are prohibitively expensive to connect with DSL or cable. The trouble with Australia is that a disproportionately large proportion of the population lives in only half a dozen cities, so if you opt to live out of the main stream, you also have to live with the fact that the telcos will just pass you by. Internode fills a lot of gaps (very well indeed), but even they struggle when there isn't even a phone pole within 5 km of your property.

Re:Actually, they do.

[dwywit]

There's a lot of sense in what you say about Telstra/bigpond, and a lot of nonsense. Fortunately I live in an area where the alternatives are viable - westnet/iinet, for example. Not everyone is lucky to have that - Optus is lamentable, and I never recommend them to my customers.
 
If the choice is telstra/bigpond vs. optus, then optus miss out. If I can steer people towards westnet, iinet, or even harboursat, I will.

Re:Actually, they do.

[_4rp4n3t]

Yes, with the caveat that when you sign up with Optus for ADSL you typically have to enter into a 24 month contract with the vendor, so might be a bit of a wait until you can switch.

s/freedom/frontier/

[Anonymous Coward]

Electronic FRONTIER Foundation. Way to be slashdot

How do they know

[Colin Smith]

That it will be child pornography?

Competitors, political dissidents, sites who pay to block opponents etc. Sounds like a fabulous opportunity to me.

Re:How do they know

[Anonymous Coward]

Here's hoping they ban 4chan ;D

Re:How do they know

[Anonymous Coward]

As somebody who is not a paedophile, but who was sexually active starting at a young(single-digit) age, I've never quite understood why sexual depictions of minors are perceived as inherently evil. I believe that rape is bad in all cases, but I remain unconvinced of the claim that voluntary pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing.

Re:How do they know

[Lysander7]

4chan already censors child pornography, so this wouldn't really serve any purpose except providing unnecessary censorship to mostly innocent (albeit mildly depraved) people. And before someone tries correcting me saying "what about Anonymous hackers?", Anonymous's underground has nothing to do with 4chan, except hold them in contempt.

Re:How do they know

[Anonymous Coward]

I agree that legislation is is often a motivated by a perverse sexual jealously directed towards children, but I'm pretty sure kiddie porn usually depicts adults raping children and not two eight-year-olds lovingly embracing. Don't see how you can think children in pedo relationships can ever not be harmed when the parts don't even fit and all of them are end up traumatized. It might be different for kids in their early teens in some cases, but now that marriage happens so late it is too far outside social norms not to be illegal.

Re:How do they know

[SuricouRaven]

Anonymous was spawned of 4chan. It no longer lives there.

Let's burn them!

[LavouraArcaica]

"sites with child pornography" are the new witches.

Re:Let's burn them!

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah! Let's burn them on DVD! Save them for future viewing!

Very naive

[MichaelSmith]

So they filter a URL. The same service can be accessed from different host names, some of them obtained from public domain name servers, some of then not. The users could use an alternate DNS root with a totally different idea of the names given to web sites, as long as the servers are configured appropriately. So say Telstra thinks a particular site is called a.cp.com but my DNS which sits between me and the internet calls it b.pc.com and the server knows this name as well. Telstra never heard of it so they won't filter it. Eventually authorities will access the feed of alternate host names but by then the market will have moved on.

I can't see this accomplishing anything.

Re:Very naive

[Anonymous Coward]

Pedophile spotted. SWARM! SWARM!

So where is this stuff hosted?

[vadim_t]

Why is it that everybody seems to concentrate on filtering it?

Since when there is some place in the world where absolutely anything can be hosted with impunity to the point that the only recourse is blocking access to it? And wouldn't blocking it be exactly the wrong thing to do?

Re:So where is this stuff hosted?

[Anonymous Coward]

No, but there are places in the world where getting it taken down legally involves complicated diplomatic procedures, many phone calls, legal proceedings, appeals, counterappeals and the odd bribe to the local police. Faced with something so complicated and time-consuming, it just seems easier to block. After all, if the rest of the world keeps looking, that's their business.

Re:So where is this stuff hosted?

[Anonymous Coward]

No, but there are places in the world where getting it taken down legally involves complicated diplomatic procedures, many phone calls, legal proceedings, appeals, counterappeals and the odd bribe to the local police. Faced with something so complicated and time-consuming, it just seems easier to block. After all, if the rest of the world keeps looking, that's their business.

If they really cared about stopping CP, the government would stop trading with countries that host illegal content. Since they don't do this, either they care more about money than children or filtering CP is only the tip of the iceberg (or, more likely, they don't give a rat's ass about protecting kids and are in it only for the money and power). Therefore fuck this. QED.

Re:They ought to be filtering vs. malware & bo

[Anonymous Coward]

>Norton DNS does it in fact & I suggest using it
>I suggest using Norton

Nope.

Care to explain the downmoderation?

[Anonymous Coward]

Whoever downmoderated my post should have the courage to speak their mind on reasons for downmoderating my post, based on errors in technical information in computing

(Additionally, should said "courageous hero" (lol, not) have the balls to reply? Do so... & not just some silly vendetta, or being a troll with off-topic adhominem attacks - do so based on what you feel is in error in my posting (IF You can)).

I suppose I can be happy you're blowing them that way though, & wasting them.

* In any event? See subject-line, & thank you!

APK

P.S.=> I mean, lol, hey: If the "best you've got" is hit & run down moderations of a post, then you've made my point(s) above!

Otherwise? I can only suspect that some malware maker/botnet master is behind the wheel of this unjust downmoderation.

... apk

Re:Care to explain the downmoderation?

[maxwell demon]

Whoever downmoderated my post should have the courage to speak their mind on reasons for downmoderating my post, based on errors in technical information in computing

Nice trick. Of course, would he do so, his moderation would be undone (and all other moderations which he did on any other post on this story, too). Thus Slashdot actively discourages anyone explaining his moderation (unless he actually wants to undo it because it was an accident, but then even then he is discouraged from doing so if he's moderated any other post under the same story, because that one would be undone, too).

Here in the Uk

[Anonymous Coward]

I have a lot of choices in how I can get my fix of Internet.
If you live in a decent sized town there are 20+ different ISP you could sign up to.
Of course there is Cable (Where available) but that IMHO sucks.
With DSL we have this thing called LLU. Local Loop Unbundling. BT (who owns the exhanges) is forced to allow other companies to put their kit in the exchanges. My local exchange has kit from TalkTalk, Be, PlusNet, Sky and possibly a few others.
I've just upgraded to FTTC. Fibre to the Cabinet. My speed has gone from 4.5Mbits to 32.5Mbits.

Our mobile data plans are also in a different league to the US. Just go to www.three.co.uk and see for yourself. I'm on a 15Gb for £15/month plan. This is for my MiFi mobile wifi hotspot. It allows several PC's, Laptop, Tables to share the same connection.

The same ISPs that made a deal for the NBN

[stormboy]

Is this coincidence that the same 2 ISPs just made significant deals with government to further the NBN? Sounds like a condition of the deal to me, and the government gets to keep their hands clean.

Explain & define that "nope" reply please

[Anonymous Coward]

"Nope." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 24, @08:45AM (#36553816)

Do so on "techincal computing grounds" (for lack of a better expression/turn of a phrase on my part here)...

Not just some silly vendetta or just for trolling - what a stupid word for harassment attempts!

No, don't just "downmod & run", like some people do here:

E.G.-> countertrolling & how he downmoderates posts by not being logged in as his "registered 'LUSER'" account here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2245866&cid=36491652 as an "example thereof" - that entire bunch in tomhudson, gmhowell, jeremiah cornelius, webmistressrachel, & a few others (sock puppets mostly) are NOTORIOUS for it.

* Thank you...

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Oh, & by the by/lastly/in-closing:

NortonDNS does do filtering vs. known purveyors of malware via DNSBL site filtering, and vs. botnet C&C servers (& other forms of servers they use also) - See here -> http://nortondns.com/

Sooo... see my subject-line above!

APK

P.S.=> Hey - IF the "best you have" is blowing your mod points on downmoderating a post designed to help others?

You've proved I may be correct that only a malware-maker/botnet master would be interested in suppressing it really, who else would?

Besides: Others here will see it regardless & that's my end-game/goal (in spreading this type of good info. here anyhow)

... apk

How will this help?

[tecker]

What I want to know is how filtering of these sites will help at all.

SERIOUSLY! HOW?

Here is what I am seeing. Austrailia blocks these sites and what happens:

1. Technology is downloaded and used to get around this filtering (VPNs,alternate DNS,etc.)
2. New sites pop up creating a game of whack-a-mole
3. Lawsuits and public outcry killing the project
4. Long shot but the viewing of these sites might go down

Now you will notice that nowhere on that list does the terms "kiddie porn sites go away" or "kids stop being exploited" appear. It will continue to happen at places around the world, I honestly think response will go 1-2-3-4 in Australia, and the intended purpose will never happen. Want a better option one that is even more sinister? Honeypot em. Dont filter. Trap em. Watch the sites you Blacklist, observe the people going, trace and trap the network and strike hard.

Block sites. Everthing ventured, nothing gained.

Re:How will this help?

[X10]

This will definitely help: it will help pedophiles do their thing undisturbed. Filtering pictures of child abuse off the web makes them invisible to a general public, which will cease to put pressure on the government to stop child abuse. Meanwhile, pedophiles use their own channels to continue to distribute pictures of child abuse, and for that, to abuse children.
ISPs should not filter anything. Governments should put maximum effort in taking down child abuse networks. And let's stop calling it "child pornography". It's not pornography. It's pictures of child abuse. Very often, it's pictures of severe child abuse.

Re:How will this help?

[Cimexus]

Nah not even that will happen. It's not a law. It's not 'Australia' blocking it. It's two out of the hundreds of ISPs (admittedly, big ones, but most people in Australia have a relatively wide choice of ISP cf. the US) doing it of their own making. So:

- People on ISPs other than those two (which includes anyone with half a clue about the Internet - these ISPs are essentially the 'clueless ma and pa' ISPs), won't be affected.
- People on these ISPs who care enough about the issue will switch to another ISP. This is a relatively painless process - there is a very high rate of ISP 'churn' in Australia already as providers compete on price vs. download limit.
- People on these ISPs who don't care (i.e. most of them) won't do anything.

Your 1-2-3-4 list would happen if this was a universal filtering that all ISPs were doing, but it's not. Thankfully.

Re:How will this help?

[Anonymous Coward]

"Pornography: sexually explicit material: films, magazines, writings, photographs, or other materials that are sexually explicit and intended to cause sexual arousal. "

Just because you are not attracted to children, doesnt mean that is not pornography.

countertrolling, tomhudson, gmhowell & others

[Anonymous Coward]

do it all the time, and they don't undo moderations. See this:

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2245866&cid=36491652

As an "example thereof" - that entire bunch in tomhudson, gmhowell, jeremiah cornelius, webmistressrachel, & a few others (sock puppets mostly) are NOTORIOUS for it.

Says it all for me: Your reply only proves my point also that effete downmoderations that aren't jusitified by on topic computing related critique, are just that: Weak, & useless!

(After all - You saw my post, & replied... proof's in the pudding!)

APK

P.S.=> They're a pack of "Pro-*NIX" trolling scum that infests this forums. tomhudson even has a domain called TROLLTALK.COM, for Pete's sake...

Now, that name for a domain alone helps my statements in & of itself...

... apk

no avenues

[Anonymous Coward]

"there are no avenues for appeal for those websites which may feel they've been unfairly blocked."

Odd. A similar system used by 90% of ISPs in neighbouring New Zealand gives web surfers an opportunity to appeal if they ever reach a blocked URL.

Re:no avenues

[SuricouRaven]

While here in the UK, our anti-child-porn filter replaces blocked pages with a fake 404 error, thus removing the need for an appeals process: Even the blocked sites won't realise they are blocked unless they notice the strange complains of missing files or the irregularity in client IP addresses.

Re:They ought to be filtering vs. malware & bo

[Anonymous Coward]

Shut up APK. Nobody cares.

tomhudson ac "stalk/troll" replies, again? LOL!

[Anonymous Coward]

I'll let tomhudson speak for hiimself via quote on that account:
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#1

"Wait until he starts on another kick, then reply to him as an AC. It's the new meme". - by tomhudson (43916) on Sunday May 09 2010, @08:29PM (#32150544) Homepage Journal

QUOTED VERBATIM FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1646272&cid=32150544

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#2

HOWTO: trolling the hosts file guy in one easy step

"The next time you see a post by him, just reply anonymously. And to really mess with his head, reply anonymously to your anonymous post, disagreeing with your first anon post (extra points if you claim in the second post that you're him - that REALLY sets him off). He'll accuse you of being me" - by tomhudson (43916) on Saturday April 16, @01:38PM (#35841122) Homepage Journal

QUOTED VERBATIM FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2086424&cid=35841122

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#3

"if you're going to tell this guy to stop spamming his hosts file crap, make sure you do it anonymously" - by tomhudson (43916) on Saturday April 16, @12:45PM (#35840680) Homepage Journal

QUOTED VERBATIM FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2086920&cid=35840680

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"Shut up APK. Nobody cares." - by Anonymous Coward ( most likely tomhudson, see above ) on Friday June 24, @10:55AM (#36555832)

Ahem: to this next below? Read (your logic is typical forums troll "illogic" tomhudson):

* Seems others do care, as you replied tomhudson, as well as maxwell demon (much to YOUR dismay, see his reply).

APK

P.S.=> "3 strikes, you're OUT" tomhudson - you always give away your "std. modus operandi", everytime, reacting the ONLY WAY YOU KNOW HOW - ac trolling/stalking replies harassing myself, and others shown here, in damn_registars own journal no less:

Titled Tomhudson did you do this? here http://slashdot.org/journal/266852/Did-You-Do-This-TomHudson

Everyone KNOWS your tricks here tomhudson, including how you & yours "mod one another up" via sockpuppet accounts or just normal reg'd accounts here, and how you downmoderate others also!

(shown by countertrolling your pal/sockpuppet here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2245866&cid=36491652 )

You only did this, to yourself, tomhudson, nobody else!

... apk

Re:tomhudson ac "stalk/troll" replies, again? LOL!

[Anonymous Coward]

Not tomhudson. Shut up APK. Nobody cares.

Evidently U DO CARE tom, & more ac troll repli

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject-line & your ac troll/stalk plans requoted:

"Not tomhudson. " - by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 24, @12:26PM (#36557588)

"Sure tom, sure": See your own words quoted on that note here once again on how you operate around here tomhudson:

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Wait until he starts on another kick, then reply to him as an AC. It's the new meme. - by tomhudson (43916) on Sunday May 09 2010, @08:29PM (#32150544) Homepage Journal

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1646272&cid=32150544

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HOWTO: trolling the hosts file guy in one easy step

The next time you see a post by him, just reply anonymously. And to really mess with his head, reply anonymously to your anonymous post, disagreeing with your first anon post (extra points if you claim in the second post that you're him - that REALLY sets him off). He'll accuse you of being me by tomhudson (43916) on Saturday April 16, @01:38PM (#35841122) Homepage Journal

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2086424&cid=35841122

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if you're going to tell this guy to stop spamming his hosts file crap, make sure you do it anonymously by tomhudson (43916) on Saturday April 16, @12:45PM (#35840680) Homepage Journal

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2086920&cid=35840680

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3 times tomhudson? It appears you're the cyberstalker, & you're trying to tell us you're not?? LMAO, come on!

APK

P.S.=> Give us, and yourself most of all, a break - you're destroying your credibility, AND your "troll credibility" too (which you ought to, you suck @ it)

... apk

There goes the Chinese Religion 'Faloon Gong'

[Anonymous Coward]

Child Prono eh!? Well some years back the Peoples Republic of China, you know, the mates your government now sells uranium ore for bombs to when you would not let American aircraft carriers into your port 'cuz they were powered by the atom. Well the Chinese hit on a neat plan to subjugate a religion that they did not like. Appears their 'Falun Gong' or whatever spelling (actually spelled in Chinese characters) is a religion that does not recognize the primacy of the Communist Party of the People's Republic. For that 'crime' they have had their religion defined in Chinese law as 'child pron'. You see when you have the power of definition flowing out of the barrels of their guns, you can do anything! Well you suckers ate gun control and lost your most basic freedoms with nary a whimper many years ago. Your other rights will follow down the drain as night follows the day. How soon before the street corner cameras with face recognition...the three in the morning knock because Harvey took a different route with his car to work the other day....the 'preventative detention' because Mary's DNA shows 'latent criminal tendancies'....ad nauseum nasty tidbits of the slide to fascism.

"Vi veri universum vivus vici" - V 4 Vendetta

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject-line, & translate (By the power of truth, while living, I have conquered the UNIVERSE!)...

Thank-you for your time if you're reading, & enjoy the tip on NORTON DNS!

I am glad the trolltalk.com trolls (tomhudson & crew) actually were foolish enough to attack me here yet again via AC replies as seen above:

Mainly - Because it explains EXACTLY how to take out trolls, by using the simple power of truth & facts (and their own words + misdoings online @ this website).

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tomhudson (The ringleader & bigtime trolling liar)

gmhowell (agreed to truce)

webmistressrachel (liar & pawn or, sockpuppet of the main fool, in tomhudson I suspect)

jeremiah cornelius (pretty much leaves me be, we got along before this)

damn_registrars (I think he was just a pawn of tomhudson),

clone (both guises 52431/52431 LONG gone)

Pseudonym Authority (just another troll I blew away recently for the same crap & trolling mechanics the idiots from trolltalk.com, above, utilize bogusly)

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AND, of course, since tomhudson always trolls me on HOSTS files posts I do, & fails hugely!

(See here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2230966&cid=36418796 )

Plus, in other technical matters in networking + programming & yes, HOSTS files - see below!

Yes - a "rib/jab" @ trolls around here... not blaspheming, but the point's there!

The latter url's internals, which is why I suspect is WHY tomhudson trolls me via AC replies, "Geek Angst" of his, blown away, by yours truly - TOO many times, & just "too, Too, TOO EASILY - '2EZ-ily'"

(AND, everytime he starts with myself, & "tries me" as he has here... only to expose he & his and how they work online (dishonorably), lol!)

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"Heavenly hosts refers to an army (Luk.2:13; Rev.19:19) of good angels mentioned in the Bible. It is led either by the Archangel Michael, Jesus, or by God himself. ... The heavenly host participate in the War in Heaven and, according to some interpretations, will battle Satan (lol, tomhudson) and Satan's own army (trolltalk.com) at the End of Days and be victorious" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavenly_host

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* So - with that "all said & aside"?

Thanks for your time, and again - Do ENJOY (and use) THE TIP ON NORTON DNS (good stuff)...

APK

P.S.=> So, per my FAVORITE FILM of all time (LAYER CAKE), do see it, great film - Specifically @ it's termination?

AND

Because I especially like doing analogies via film (better than scripture quotes or those from classical literature, since more folks have a backdrop in film by far lately)??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffz2MHYEaAE&feature=related

"Adios Amigos" - XXX

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LAYER CAKE ENDING:

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Clarkie the Chemist - "The King is Dead, Long Live the King..."

XXX - "Well I'm honored, but for me? This is all over, I'm getting out... what was true THEN, is true now: Have a Plan, & Stick to it. So I'm sure you gentlemen have LOTS to discuss, but I have no business being here... Adios Amigos (Paul the Boatman (clone), Kinky (Jeremiah Cornelius), The Duke (tomhudson), Slasher (webmistressrachel), Mr. Lucky (damn_registrars) , Troop () ...Jimmy (Pseudonym Authority) - I don't want to add my name to THAT list. My name? If you knew that, you'd be as clever as me..." - XXX

... apk

Re:"Vi veri universum vivus vici" - V 4 Vendetta

[Anonymous Coward]

Seriously. Shut up APK. Nobody cares.

Re:"Vi veri universum vivus vici" - V 4 Vendetta

[Anonymous Coward]

Seen apk say this 2 tomhudson trolls "Rinse, lather, & repeat" troll -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2265388&cid=36557774 Hahahaha had to do it. Just like apk said there you evidently do care (with your reaction showing it).

Re:"Vi veri universum vivus vici" - V 4 Vendetta

[Anonymous Coward]

Clearly posted by you APK. Shut up. Nobody cares.

Re:"Vi veri universum vivus vici" - V 4 Vendetta

[Anonymous Coward]

Right, well... we'll see!

APK

"Yea, tho I walk thru trollin' valley @ /."...

[Anonymous Coward]

"I shall fear no evil trolls: For the TROLLING WORDS & MISDOINGS of tomhudson's ac replies & quotes are WITH ME" An "adaptation" of Psalm 23:4 by yours truly, APK

* Nothing like letting an enemy defeat himself, & on his OWN ballcourt - and, with his OWN words quoted shown for all to see as well...

(Rather, or what they *think* is their own ballcourt)

I have clearly proven, otherwise!

---

To quote The Lord Humungous from the film "The Road Warrior" (picture me saying this to you trolls here):

"I AM THE LORD OF THE WASTELAND - WHATEVER EXISTS HERE, IS MINE!"

(Mainly because tomhudson's trolltalk.com trollsquad here is very stupid... shown in all the posts above, with their own words & doings quoted!)

APK

P.S.=> See here again: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2265388&cid=36559302

tomhudson troll!

(, & DO "drink it in & digest it" because it will help you wash down "the bitter taste of YOUR OWN DEFEAT")

Because your trolling games are probably getting to their end, and your own words DEFEATED YOU FOR ME... lol!

... apk

Re:"Yea, tho I walk thru trollin' valley @ /."...

[Anonymous Coward]

Guess what.

1 last thing here to say, to politicians

[Anonymous Coward]

From The Legendary Bob Dylan, & what he sang (lyrics-wise) in "The Times they are a Changin'"

You people know me: I like making analogies via artforms like film!

Mostly, better than quoting:

1.) Scripture, chapter & verse (as I did here in this exchange in fact, lol)

2.) Classical literature

As, imo @ least, more folks are wont to have a backdrop in this using contemporary pieces/examples of film (or music) (though I am often wont to quote scripture now & again too, biblical passages)

Albeit - This time?

It's

#3 Music

( & imo a FINE piece, just for a change & to get a message across (I hope, lol)):

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"Oh congressmen, senators, please heed the call -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2265388&cid=36553756 Don't stand in the doorway, don't blockup the hall: He that is first, will be he who has stalled... BIG BATTLE OUTSIDE, RAGIN' (hacker/cracker stuff, spam/phishing, & virus/spyware/malware-in-general, etc./et al), will soon shake your MICROSOFT WINDOWS, & RATTLE YOUR FIREWALLS, for the times? They ARE 'a-changin'"...

BIGTIME, & not for the better...

(Though many are trying from our arena in the computer sciences to make it so, it's NOT enough... change, REAL CHANGE, always starts @ home & @ the top!)

* Nuff said...

APK

P.S.=> Hope you all "caught my drift"...& WHAT was I supposed to guess?

... apk

Whoops, sorry (lyrical edit, my bad)... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

He that GETS HURT, will be he who has stalled... BIG BATTLE OUTSIDE, RAGIN' - will soon shake YOUR MICROSOFT WINDOWS & RATTLE YOUR FIREWALLS, oh, the times? They ARE, a-changin'... :)

APK

P.S.=> Haven't heard that tune in years, but watched something that reminded me of it... I felt it applied to my init. post is all! ... apk

Re:Whoops, sorry (lyrical edit, my bad)... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

You should look into a Lithium prescription - your bizarre ranting is even more disjointed than normal.

See question, & answer it

[Anonymous Coward]

Are you a psychiatrist or MD that can make diagnosis/prognosis like that legally and professionally?

Re:See question, & answer it

[Anonymous Coward]

Judging by your canned response, seeking psychiatric help is obviously a suggestion which you receive on a regular basis.

Your ac troll & libel replies

[Anonymous Coward]

Are against the law as I don't take meds of any type whatsoever (even aspirin).

APK

P.S.=> The only person that I have seen attempt to literally say they were doing ac replies to troll and stalk me (as well as libel myself) was tomhudson:

Wait until he starts on another kick, then reply to him as an AC. It's the new meme. - by tomhudson (43916) on Sunday May 09 2010, @08:29PM (#32150544) Homepage Journal

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1646272&cid=32150544

HOWTO: trolling the hosts file guy in one easy step

The next time you see a post by him, just reply anonymously. And to really mess with his head, reply anonymously to your anonymous post, disagreeing with your first anon post (extra points if you claim in the second post that you're him - that REALLY sets him off). He'll accuse you of being me by tomhudson (43916) on Saturday April 16, @01:38PM (#35841122) Homepage Journal

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2086424&cid=35841122

if you're going to tell this guy to stop spamming his hosts file crap, make sure you do it anonymously by tomhudson (43916) on Saturday April 16, @12:45PM (#35840680) Homepage Journal

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2086920&cid=35840680

3 times tomhudson? For over a year now also?? Appears you've degnerated into a cyberstalker tomhudson, and even trying to get others to do it with you!

... apk

Re:Your ac troll & libel replies

[Anonymous Coward]

I know you have an unhealthy obsession with tomhudson, APK, but I am not her.

"Your ac troll & libel replies... Are against the law"
My replies are neither libellous nor against any law. I suggested that you should look into medication, I did not suggest that you were currently taking any medication. I stand by this suggestion - your ranting is both bizarre and disjoint, and you are clearly paranoid. In my opinion you should seek medical assistance.

Also, why is your host grinder app so slow? Is that a product of your mental state?

My program beat tomhudson's stuff in fact

[Anonymous Coward]

Funny you mention it - A program of mine for processing HOSTS file data beat tomhudson's imitation attempt @ doing the same job:

(Mine processed more data than his, & faster too, lol... funny you mention tomhudson, hosts, and my program in the SAME passage too!)

"why is your host grinder app so slow? Is that a product of your mental state?" - by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 27, @06:17PM (#36590118)

LOL - it's faster than tomhudson's PALE "imitation" was in shell scripts, by FAR!

So much for that... Yes, I busted on tomhudson there for it too, he tried the same crap you are now! AC you've been "shot down in FLAMES" yet again... too easy!

(So, TRUE "anonymous COWARD", lol - tell us, what have YOU ever written that did well in softwares online?

See below for a partial list of only SOME of my "Favs" I have done over a 17 yr. long timeframe that did well in:

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1.) Respected publications

2.) Books in computing

3.) Respected magazines in computers

4.) Esteemed technical trade shows

5.) Even ending up with my code in HIGHLY esteemed wares to this very day (still sold commercially by a Microsoft certified partner no less!)

---

Ok?

APK

P.S.=> In fact? Well... Here's a tiny & only small PARTIAL list of those favorites of mine

(& what I did while you were probably still in diapers (show us you've done more, & earlier too than I did (some of which was done as a student still on my part no less back then too)))

"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."

----

Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3

It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html or here

Re:My program beat tomhudson's stuff in fact

[Anonymous Coward]

tomhudson didn't write that script. I did.

And it was several times faster than your implementation, as we're both very well aware.

Re:My program beat tomhudson's stuff in fact

[Anonymous Coward]

"It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project... http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2993462&group_id=199532&atid=969873"
You submitted an icon? Hmmm. I don't see any evidence of them ever actually using that icon, so your contribution was nil.

"AND lastly: http://g-off.net/software/a-python-repeatable-threadingtimer-class "
Uhh, you're not in that thread, APK. What on earth are you talking about?

"...
a = RepeatTimer(900, apkthreadlaunch)"
You defined a procedure, then you passed it into RepeatTimer. All you have done is use RepeatTimer in exactly the way it's supposed to be used. If that's your massive breakthrough, then you really are even more useless than I originally gave you credit for.

You are actually, literally, and completely delusional. This is hilarious.

Re:My program beat tomhudson's stuff in fact

[Anonymous Coward]

Did U correct them?? No, I did. Look on the download page? A lot of folks didn't know how to use it... Now, they can!

* You're also avoiding the question I asked you, show us you've done more than I have, & before it, per the lists below in my 'p.s.', ok?

Also - Funny you AVOID your hilarious BLUNDERS on the data in HOSTS files listed here:

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AC "Scrypt-Kiddie"'s FAIL list on HOSTS files:

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2265388&cid=36604424

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And I DOUBT your "Scrypt-Kiddie" script won't process 1.5++ - 2 million assorted out-of-order HOSTS file records records in under 22 seconds to sort, deduplicate, & change the blocking IP address, either... tomhudson tried it, didn't make it (can be CPU dependent though,since it's string-processing!))

QUESTION: Did you FINALLY get it right, after all my help?

APK

P.S.=> The day you've done more than this (only a SMALL set of what I've done in this art & science of computing mind you & some done as a student only, no less) - IS THE DAY YOU CAN EVEN BEGIN TO TRY CHALLENGE ME, period (because you tried on HOSTS files & didn't get the data processing RIGHT, w/out my help!):

"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."

----

Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3

It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html or here http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2993462&group_id=199532&atid=969873

AND lastly: http://g-off.net/so

Proof of my work, vs. tomhudson's work

[Anonymous Coward]

I busted on tomhudson for it in fact here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2100524&cid=35928324

I.E.-> Where A program I wrote for processing HOSTS file data did the job faster, on more data too, than tomhudson's attempts @ doing the same job using *NIX shell scripts!

APK

P.S.=> You know what they say, after all:

"IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY!"

However - ONLY if the imitation is as good as or better than the original... otherwise it's called a "knockoff" of others' ideas!

... apk

countertrolling: Is that you now?

[Anonymous Coward]

See here http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2265388&cid=36585328 & please:

"rinse, lather, & repeat"

Refer to it again, perhaps THAT will help you... lol!

You can call it a 'canned response' but as is your usual?

Well, lol - You failed to answer what it asked... you're great @ running away from questions, aren't you?)

LMAO!

---

"Gosh", THAT'S just like here yesterday where I exposed you for cheating the moderation system here also!

Which of course, you were caught in doing while you trolled me here, and your own words exposed you in it here:

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2245866&cid=36491652

Funny how you outright RAN from a simple question I asked you as well, here:

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2271908&cid=36580340

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Wait, wait... keep reading, because it just keeps getting better:

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ALL, Just because you "didn't get what you wanted" here, lol:

http://slashdot.org/~countertrolling/journal/267184

* Give up already, while you're still MILES behind me, troll... lol!

APK

P.S.=> ROTFLMAO @ U countertrolling (it's gotta be you, just judging by the replies and nature of them)

Man, lol - I don't think you get it, do you?

You can never get the best of me, even posting as anonymous coward...

You haven't shown me different & I am sure next you will say "I am not countertrolling", well "sure, sure - ok" (NOT).

Fact is, none of you trolltalk.com fools ever do (which is why I find it so damned hilarious - you make it SO easy for me to do, with documented proofs especially!)

... apk

tomhudson has the "unhealthy obsession"

[Anonymous Coward]

All documented right here -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2265388&cid=36585676

In tomhudson's own words quoted no less!

(On planning on stalking & trolling me by anonymous coward replies along with his/her friends from trolltalk.com)

My, my - funny that eh: JUST LIKE YOU ARE NOW!

"Will wonders NEVER cease" & "Coincedences Abound" (lol, not).

Just like most of you trolltalk.com people do (until you come out to troll the rest of us by anonymous coward trolling replies & cheating the moderation system here as countertrolling did:

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2245866&cid=36491652

While trolling me & telling his companions from trolltalk.com how to do it no less... "bad, bad, bad countertrolling", lol!)

APK

P.S.=> Like I said before: Quit while you're already MILES behind...

... apk

Aha, the "Script Kiddie", lol (list of your fails)

[Anonymous Coward]

No, I rewrote it in Python & knocked the snot out of U both http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2100524&cid=35928324

NOW, how many times did you fuckup in the data on your "Scrypt-Kiddie" script & I had to help you fix it? I architected your script for you! You should credit me in fact!

Let's see now, lol:

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"IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY: But only IF the imitation is as good & works right (yours did not & failed on the action items list I put out there)

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34728830

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BAD BLOCKING ADDRESS CONVERSION BY YOU(Didn't account for anything other than loopback on your part - larger & SLOWER than 0.0.0.0)

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=35372262

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YOU FAILED TO ACCOUNT FOR Capital Letters, trailing blanks & other characters in others' HOSTS files (you don't have a good handle on data processing, because in files? It's ALL ABOUT THE DATA & its accuracy!)

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34687498

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You didn't write as much functionality as I did, yourself, and I had to practically ARCHITECT YOUR WORK FOR YOU (because you made numerous revisions based on my statements of your ERRORS to you):

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35405580

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ROTFLMAO! Heh, glad YOU "showed up", so you could get more "egg on your face"... LoL!

* 4 times, over what? a 4 month period of trying to outdo my work, only to fall on your FACE, 4 times vs. myself and STILL NOT HAVE THE DATA COME OUT RIGHT ON YOUR PART, "Scrypt-Kiddie Troll"?

"ScriptKiddie Troll, R.I.P" vs. APK -> December 2010 - March 2011

(So you know? My Python version now does WELL over 1.5 million records deduplicated in less than 22 seconds flat & it's "write once, run anywhere" too!)

APK

P.S.=> That was FUNNIER THAN HELL, lol... you'll NEVER get the best of me via lies, because I just produce documented facts, via bookmarks I kept on your trolling b.s.!

... apk

Why'd you OMIT THE REST OF PARTIAL LIST?

[Anonymous Coward]

Here it is (only a small PARTIAL LIST of my "favs" I have done over time since 1996 thru 2004 in respected publications, trade shows, books, & more in the computer sciences - much of it done while I was still only a STUDENT!):

"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."

----

Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3

It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html or here http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2993462&group_id=199532&atid=969873

AND lastly: http://g-off.net/software/a-python-repeatable-threadingtimer-class [g-off.net] where I got other programmer's work WORKING RIGHT (in PyThon no less, which I just started learning only 2 week ago no less) by showing them how to use a "Dummy Proxy Function" as I call it, to make a RepeatTimer class (Thread sub-class really) to take PARAMETERIZED FUNCTIONS, ala:

def apkthreadlaunch():
getnortonsafeweb(sAPKFileName = "APK_1_NortonSafeWeb360Extracted.txt".rstrip())

a = RepeatTimer(900, apkthreadlaunch) # 900 is 15 minutes... apk

Where it was NOT working for many folks there, before (submitted to the maker of the RepeatTimer class no less, & yes, it WORKS!)

----

What do I have to say about that much above? I can't say it any better, than this was stated already (from the greatest book of all time, the "tech manual for life" imo):

"But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I labored more abund

Re:Why'd you OMIT THE REST OF PARTIAL LIST?

[Anonymous Coward]

Loving the fact that you've conveniently ignored everything here:
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2265388&cid=36601498
Why won't you address these issues, APK? Is it because you're embarrassed because you've been called out on another set of lies?

"No, I rewrote it in Python & knocked the snot out of U both http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2100524&cid=35928324"
Lies. Show us the code.

"BAD BLOCKING ADDRESS CONVERSION BY YOU(Didn't account for anything other than loopback on your part - larger & SLOWER than 0.0.0.0)"
No. The script originally used 127.0.0.1 because that's the usual method of blocking. Your inability to understand regexes blinded you to the fact the it was a 3 character change to do 0.0.0.0. That's your failing, not ours.

"YOU FAILED TO ACCOUNT FOR Capital Letters, trailing blanks & other characters in others' HOSTS files"
Again, no. Again your inability to read a few lines of shell was exposed because you missed the tr and sed in the pipe which does exactly that.

"You didn't write as much functionality as I did"
Wrong again. The script produced exactly the same output as your plodding abomination.

Funny that, APK, whenever anyone calls you out on your bullshit, you completely ignore what they've posted and tell us yet again about you accomplishments - accomplishments which have already been shown to be lies.

So sad, APK. So sad. Anti-psychotics might really help your condition - it's a shame you haven't chosen to seek help from a medical professional.

"Run, Forrest - RUN!!!... ROTFLMAO!

[Anonymous Coward]

"Scrypt-Kiddie"'s FAIL list on HOSTS files:

---

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2265388&cid=36604424

"Read 'em & WEEP, AC "Scrypt-Kiddie Troll!"

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And?

I DOUBT your "Scrypt-Kiddie" script won't process 1.5++ - 2 million assorted out-of-order HOSTS file records records in under 22 seconds to sort, deduplicate, & change the blocking IP address, either... tomhudson tried it, didn't make it (can be CPU dependent though (since it's string-processing!))

* QUESTION: Did you FINALLY get it right, after all my help?

APK

P.S.=> See URL link above, lol, & "drink that in, & digest it" as it will HELP you "wash it down" with the "bitter taste of YOUR defeat" vs. myself... lol!

... apk

You only used *NIX commands (U didn't write those)

[Anonymous Coward]

"AC Scrypt-Kiddie"'s FAILS on HOSTS files vs. APK:

---

"Read 'em & WEEP, AC "Scrypt-Kiddie Troll!"

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2265388&cid=36604424

("ScriptKiddie Troll, R.I.P" vs. APK -> December 2010 - March 2011)

---

And?

I DOUBT your "Scrypt-Kiddie" script can process 1.5++ - 2 million assorted out-of-order HOSTS file records records in under 22 seconds to sort, deduplicate, & change the blocking IP address, either - @ least NOT WITHOUT SCREWING UP BADLY as you have before vs. myself (see url link above, lol)... tomhudson tried it, didn't make it (can be CPU dependent though (since it's string-processing!))

* QUESTION: Did you FINALLY get it right, after all my help?

APK

P.S.=> See URL link above, lol, & "drink that in, & digest it" as it will HELP you "wash it down" with the "bitter taste of YOUR defeat" vs. myself... lol!

... apk

OH, additionally? You lacked argc/argv &

[Anonymous Coward]

BEING JUST AS MULTIPLATFORM - You're stuck on a certain SHELL on *NIX & if you try to go BSD variants? You'll find your commands may have to be altered, yet again: Command switches vary between AT&T Bell Labs UNIX variants vs. those in BSD

(Your shell script isn't ANYWHERE NEAR Python "write once/run anywhere"-ness, compared to that, via its multiplatform runtime!)

So, ontop of the list above of where you "Fell Short", vs. myself 4x over a 4 month period?

That's 2 more things "your work" (not really yours - you used *NIX commands is all, whereas in my older Delphi model, I wrote the string process functionality by HAND), will fall short on vs. my current PyThon model, for HOSTS file data processing!

APK

P.S.=> "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" (Loop it) -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2265388&cid=36604424

... apk

Re:OH, additionally? You lacked argc/argv &

[Anonymous Coward]

"It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project... http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2993462&group_id=199532&atid=969873 [sourceforge.net]"
You submitted an icon? Hmmm. I don't see any evidence of them ever actually using that icon, so your contribution was nil.

"AND lastly: http://g-off.net/software/a-python-repeatable-threadingtimer-class [g-off.net] "
Uhh, you're not in that thread, APK. What on earth are you talking about?

"...
a = RepeatTimer(900, apkthreadlaunch)"
You defined a procedure, then you passed it into RepeatTimer. All you have done is use RepeatTimer in exactly the way it's supposed to be used. If that's your massive breakthrough, then you really are even more useless than I originally gave you credit for.

"Run, Forrest - RUN!!!" - Part deux... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"AC SkRyPt-KiDDie"'s FAILS on HOSTS files vs. APK:

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"Read 'em & WEEP, AC "Scrypt-Kiddie Troll!"

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2265388&cid=36604424

("ScriptKiddie Troll, R.I.P" vs. APK -> December 2010 - March 2011)

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And?

I DOUBT your "SkRyPt-KiDDie" script can process 1.5++ - 2 million assorted out-of-order HOSTS file records records in under 22 seconds to sort, deduplicate, & change the blocking IP address, either - @ least NOT WITHOUT SCREWING UP BADLY as you have before vs. myself (see url link above, lol)... tomhudson tried it, didn't make it (can be CPU dependent though (since it's string-processing!))

* QUESTION: Did you FINALLY get it right, after all my help?

APK

P.S.=> See URL link above, lol, & "drink that in, & digest it" as it will HELP you "wash it down" with the "bitter taste of YOUR defeat" vs. myself... lol!

P.S.S.=> On the b.s. you just wrote?

I just posted on it to others who did NOT understand how to use it, which is clearly & evidently MORE THAN YOU CAN SHOW YOU'VE EVER DONE, period, troll!

It's also VERY funny how you ran from my challenge here too in the other posts as well!

(Merely showing that you've done even a FRACTION of what I could actually put out - that one just happens to be a "fav" of mine)

I helped others in the doing of it & submitted it to the author as well - I figured it out, in my 2nd week of using a language I only NOW am beginning to appreciate for its abilities in text processing - without any documentation or help (just experience from my knowing a dozen other languages over time, & doing well in them, per my PARTIAL LIST OF FAVS ONLY, mind you, that "the ac trolling likes of you" can't even BEGIN to touch, lol!)

Here it is again, for your reference & the SAME challenge to you is extended:

Show us all that you've done more & BETTER over time, & before I did especially (while I was only a student):

"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."

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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.p

Additionally "UR work"? (not really urs) lacked

[Anonymous Coward]

Argc/Argv parameterization, & is not anywhere NEAR as MULTIPLATFORM as mine is now via Python...

ROTFLMAO - yes, rubbing salt into your NUMEROUS FAIL "CUTS" vs. myself, everytime... & yes, I know WHO YOU ARE NOW FINALLY as well, lol!

Still "stingin" from "geek angst"? Absolutely - you're angry, but REALLY only angry @ yourself for trying to take on YOUR BETTERS in myself, & LOSING - U FAIL!

I.E.-> You're stuck on a certain SHELL on *NIX & if you try to go BSD variants? You'll find your commands may have to be altered, yet again: Command switches vary between AT&T Bell Labs UNIX variants vs. those in BSD

(Your shell script isn't ANYWHERE NEAR Python "write once/run anywhere"-ness, compared to that, via its multiplatform runtime!)

So, ontop of the list above of where you "Fell Short", vs. myself 4x over a 4 month period?

That's 2 more things "your work" (not really yours - you used *NIX commands is all, whereas in my older Delphi model, I wrote the string process functionality by HAND), will fall short on vs. my current PyThon model, for HOSTS file data processing!

APK

P.S.=> "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" (Loop it) -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2265388&cid=36607180

... apk