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Perseid Meteor Shower To Be Hampered By Full Moon

An anonymous reader writes "The annual Perseid meteor shower, which is caused by debris from Comet Swift-Tuttle and has been observed for about 2000 years, will be hampered this year by the full moon. The full moon falls on August 13, and is also called 'Grain Moon' or 'Green Corn Moon.' During this time, the moon rises about the same time the sun sets, and sets at about the same time the sun rises. This will create difficulty in viewing the Perseid meteor shower, which peaks on the night of Friday and into the early morning of Aug. 13."

43 comments

  1. I put on my robe and pedant hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The shower won't be hampered! Viewing it will.

    1. Re:I put on my robe and pedant hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The shower won't be hampered! Viewing it will.

      And it's not the Comet Swift-Tuttle, but the Comet Swift-Buttle.

  2. Re:27km wide rock behind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ok first, that's not a rock, its a ball of ice. Small difference, but notable if we're talking extinction events.

    second, recalculations have been done to show it will only pass close by, not strike us. In any case, we'll all be dead then so it's of little consequence. Let our great-great-great grandchildren worry about it.

  3. Re:27km wide rock behind by Q-Hack! · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From the wiki...

    "He found the comet was most likely observed by the Chinese in 69 BC and AD 188, which was quickly confirmed by Brian G. Marsden.[8] This information and subsequent observations have led to recalculation of its orbit, which indicates the comet's orbit is very stable, and that there is absolutely no threat over the next two thousand years."

    I know it's fun to spread FUD, but come on.

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  4. Re:27km wide rock behind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn! That sure sounds like it would be a 'blast' to see. Oh well, who gives a flying fuck, we'll all be long dead by then.

    And don't start with the "Will somebody please think of the children" crap. Kids are smart, they'll figure out what to do.

  5. The meteors will still be there... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 4, Informative

    Get an FM broadcast radio with an external aerial socket, and a Yagi antenna such as you would use for fringe area reception. Aim it more or less towards the radiant of the meteor shower, and up at about a 30-40 degree angle. Now tune to a station well out of range, in roughly the direction you're pointing.

    When a meteor burns up in the atmosphere it will leave a trail of ionised particles, which will reflect radio waves. This is called "meteor scatter", and will show up as little "pings" of signal from the distant station that pop up out of the noise for a few seconds.

    Listen carefully, and make a note of the times of the pings so you can plot how frequently they occur. Congratulations, you're doing science.

    1. Re:The meteors will still be there... by GrpA · · Score: 1

      Congratulations, you're doing science.

      Awesome... Can I have some cake now please?

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    2. Re:The meteors will still be there... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      Yes, of course.

      delicious cake

    3. Re:The meteors will still be there... by Wattos · · Score: 2

      Don't be fooled! The cake is a lie

    4. Re:The meteors will still be there... by Genda · · Score: 1

      Sorry you kept on trying and we ran out of cake...

    5. Re:The meteors will still be there... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Aww, I don't have a microwave!

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    6. Re:The meteors will still be there... by FhnuZoag · · Score: 1

      That is super cool. You should write an article on this somewhere.

    7. Re:The meteors will still be there... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, much more simply, check out this page. They already have the special equipment, no purchase required. I use this site when there is a meteor shower but it is too cloudy or I am too lazy to drive out of the light pollution to see it. Also works well as a way of determining if there are enough meteors to be worth the price of gas to drive out of the light pollution. Posting AC simply because I am a lurker and have not made an account yet. Enjoy.

    8. Re:The meteors will still be there... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      HAMs use meteor scatter all the time for super-brief contacts.

      Some even bounce signals from the moon.

      Hell, they have their own satellites!

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    9. Re:The meteors will still be there... by spidercoz · · Score: 1

      Well we only had three bits and we didn't expect such a rush!

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  6. Simple Solution by FrostedWheat · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Moon obstructing your view of the Perseids? I can lend you my Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator if you promise not to destroy the Earth.

    1. Re:Simple Solution by eedwardsjr · · Score: 1

      Sorry Marvin, I don't think anyone got that.

    2. Re:Simple Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, I came to see the group of meteor fanboys saying "fsck the moon" and viceversa. Isn't how this works here? So to hell with your jokes!

    3. Re:Simple Solution by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      The door is over there. Please hit your ass on the way out.

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    4. Re:Simple Solution by omnichad · · Score: 1

      I got that, and you surely don't mean Marvin. Why would he complain about destruction of the Earth, which we all know is blocking his view of Venus.

  7. Not a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's going to be cloudy that night here, so no worries about the moon.

  8. Image Intensifier Astronomy. by GrpA · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just use a masked image intensifier ( ie, don't look directly at the moon ) and watch the sky through an image intensifier.

    Apart from a 40 degree FOV, you'll also see about a hundred times as many stars and meteors, even on a moonlit night.

    A decent Gen2 or Gen3 image intensifier will suffice. PVS-14's aren't just for the military you know...

    Though a Micro housing with a c-mount objective lens can also be modified later to fit into the eyepiece for improving your telescope too!

    GrpA

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    1. Re:Image Intensifier Astronomy. by SilentTristero · · Score: 1

      For only $3000 or so? It's a steal. Looks awesome, but I think I'll be watching with the naked eye this weekend.

  9. Re:27km wide rock behind by c0lo · · Score: 1

    And don't start with the "Will somebody please think of the children" crap. Kids are smart, they'll figure out what to do.

    If they'll survive the economic crisis by then.

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  10. Meteors impacting the moon?? ... Oh wait, by DigitalReverend · · Score: 1

    The headline had me thinking that the moon was going to be intercepting all those meteors. Turns out they meant "Viewing of the Perseid Meteor Shower To Be Hampered By Full Moon"

    If that would have been too long of a headline then perhaps "Full moon will hamper viewing of Perseid Meteor Shower" would have been better

    Same number of words as original headline and much more accurate.

    Who writes these things?

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    1. Re:Meteors impacting the moon?? ... Oh wait, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a long time stargazer, I had no issue understanding the headline. Maybe you're just a tard?

    2. Re:Meteors impacting the moon?? ... Oh wait, by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      The headline had me thinking that the moon was going to be intercepting all those meteors.

      The question is why, when if that was the case then the headline should be "Perseid Meteor Shower to Hit the Fucking Moon!"

      "Hampered" would be an extremely weird word to use in that context, yah?

      Who writes these things?

      People used to natural language communication, who unfortunately assume people reading are the same, rather than attempted pedantic literalists. :)

      After all, a meteor only becomes a meteor when it hits the earth's atmosphere. So a pedantic reading of the headline would immediately suggest that it can't possibly mean that the Perseids are hitting the moon.

      Of course I wouldn't be surprised if some of the debris left by the comet were hitting the moon, but that's not the point. :)

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    3. Re:Meteors impacting the moon?? ... Oh wait, by DigitalReverend · · Score: 1

      Natural language communications? Hamper is a verb which means to hinder or impede. Will the moon be impeding or hindering the shower? Nope. The shower will still be happening in full force. The view of the shower will be hindered or impeded by the moon. Grunts and clicks were once considered natural language, it's too bad we keep regressing when it comes to the spoken or written word.

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    4. Re:Meteors impacting the moon?? ... Oh wait, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just shut the fuck up. You're a dumb shitball and your mouth needs to close about it. I'm sick of retarded fucks like you fucking up slashdot. So go back to watching cartoons and playing video games and leave the discussion to us.

    5. Re:Meteors impacting the moon?? ... Oh wait, by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      Yes, natural language communication, where literal pedantic interpretations are rarely the correct ones. Where meaning not explicitly spelled out can be implied by sentence structure and context. What our brains are optimized for, rapidly and automatically sifting through various possible interpretations and rejecting them for various reasons. Such as if one interpretation is nonsensical, but another one makes sense, then our brains will conclude that the latter is likely the correct one. For example "Perseid Meteor Shower" could refer to the meteors' descent itself, or it could refer to the shower as the visible display that is why we even know about the shower in the first place, and why it's famous and it's arrival an event -- an event that will, in fact, be hampered by the full moon.

      What's sad is that literalists believe that not exercising this part of their brain is an improvement, and using it a regression.

      What's hilarious is that outside of going "Derp! I'm so smart I don't understand everyday English!", this part of the literalist's brain does function normally. They have to deliberately turn it off and ignore it. For example, I'm sure you had no problem with my non-literal usage of "spelled out" above, nor did you have any problem picking up on the unspoken, yet implied message of "You're an idiot."

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    6. Re:Meteors impacting the moon?? ... Oh wait, by HeadlessNotAHorseman · · Score: 1

      Surely you can't be serious!

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    7. Re:Meteors impacting the moon?? ... Oh wait, by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      I am, and stop calling me Shirley.

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  11. Re:27km wide rock behind by whiteboy86 · · Score: 1

    I've written "probable" not "certain", given the Perseids cross the Earth's orbit (we observe the meteor shover) then the encounter might be likely given the unstable orbits of these comets. "Absolutely no threat" is a FUD, no comet has a perfect orbit, there is lots of interaction going on from outer planets for example.

  12. Re:27km wide rock behind by X0563511 · · Score: 1

    I think you forget what FUD means...

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  13. Who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's cloudy anyway...

  14. Re:27km wide rock behind by spidercoz · · Score: 1
    I think you meant "improbable"

    You obviously have little conception of celestial mechanics

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  15. Re:I say fuck the moon. by mat+catastrophe · · Score: 1

    The moon is an absurd liberal myth.

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  16. It won't be a problem in Seattle. by drainbramage · · Score: 1

    The clouds block the moonlight.

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  17. Sunrise Moonset by CMan0 · · Score: 1

    You know, the post makes it sound like the sunset moonrise conjuction is specific to this moon. But if you think a little, you'll realize it's true for all full moons.
    It's one of the things in litrature that kill me. Moon rise and moon set depend on the phase of the moon. A full moon will rise as the sun sets, and half a moon never will. It's simple geometry.

    Bad editing, anonymous reader.

  18. Once again, a slashdot unstory. by ResidentSourcerer · · Score: 1

    Why is this news?

    Anyone who has any history at all of watching meteor showers knows the problem the moon can be.

    Every reasonable almanac (and their online equivalents) has both full moon dates, and meteor shower peak dates.

    Every full moon rises at approximately sunset. To be full, Sun - Earth - Moon have to make a 180 degree angle.

    So where is the news?

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