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Linux Foundation Releases Document On UEFI Secure Boot
mvar writes "The Linux Foundation today released technical guidance to PC makers on how to implement secure UEFI without locking Linux or other free software off of new Windows 8 machines. The guidance included a subtle tisk-tisk at Microsoft's Steven Sinofsky for suggesting that PC owners won't want to mess with control of their hardware and would happily concede it to operating system makers and hardware manufacturers."
Canonical and Red Hat have also published a white paper (PDF) suggesting that all OEMs "allow secure boot to be easily disabled and enabled through a
firmware configuration interface," among other things.
As I look into my crystal skull through the mists of time I see Microsoft release a white paper saying that OEMs will get $10 off the cost of Windows if they don't allow users to turn off 'Windows boot'?
"...PC owners won't want to mess with control of their hardware and would happily concede that to operating system makers and hardware manufacturers."
Put the word "most" in front of that and I'm on board. The PC as appliance that just works is really is what "most" PC owners want.
I see Microsoft release a white paper saying that OEMs will get $10 off the cost of Windows if they don't allow users to turn off 'Windows boot'
Then I see US v. Microsoft II.
Intel: We've invented a new technology that can be used to prevent low-level malware from being loaded during the pre-kernel boot process, when conventional antimalware techniques are ineffective. It could also be used by a manufacturer to prevent the user from installing any unapproved OS, as from a technological standpoint this functionality is identical to blocking malware, but that isn't what we designed it for.
Microsoft: Oh, that sounds fun. Ok, all OEMs: If you want to ship with the 'windows 8' logo which everyone is going to want soon, you need to include support for this and it must be enabled by default. You will have to include Windows 8 on the trust list, but anything else you need to block as it may be malware. You can give the user the ability to turn this feature off and install non-Windows OSs if you want, but we don't really care.
Linux supporters: But that means that unless an OEM has explicitly taken the trouble to install a feature that few users will even know of, it'll be impossible for us to use any OS except Windows - most seriously on laptops, where we can't build our own.
Microsoft: Not our problem! Take it up with the OEMs. We're only mandating that they install linux-blocking capability, we're not asking them to actually use it.
Throughout this, the OEMs have remained silent on the issue.
If we don't implement secure boot, the viruses will getcha (like the terrorists and the pedophiles)! We must try to save stupid users from their own stupidity at the cost of freedom.
You just showed how it's possible to come in first and still lose. Is your penis feeling any bigger yet?
OEM can use this to lock in to there video cards that can cost $100+ the price of other on line stores, hdd that cost the full price of a 1TB disk to just upgrade from 500gb to 1TB. Maybe even ram lock in so you can pay $60 to go from 2gb to 4gb. But for about $50 you can get good 8GB ram kits.
Note that I didn't say anything about Linux in my post.
Every non-tech user I know who wants a PC that 'just works' bought a Mac.
Given the ratio of "professional users" to "toy users" of any technology (from cars to hammers), I'd say that the 7.6% figure is about right. The professional users don't want a toy OS like Windows.
not to be a dick, but didn't apple do this first? u can dual boot apple machines, right?
mainstream vendors will completely ignore this. guys like Dell and HP have been testing the technology extensively to make sure it works on their products. it will be proprietary, guarded, and hard to manage, and probably bloated just like every other standard theyve championed.
small players will either choose to ignore the technology entirely, or develop their own convoluted undocumented implementation that manages to lock out anything except what was imaged on the device to begin with. Expect the usual BSD and Linux hackers to rise from the shadows to fix another broken mess of industry detritus.
i expect this to be one more thing i either loathe or disable as a sysadmin. UEFI, welcome to the hallowed esteems of DRAC, BMC, IPMI, ACPI, and APMI.
Good people go to bed earlier.
I don't want to disable the functionality to use Linux or any other operating system. I want it to be customizable so I can use it with any other operating system. Having it locked down for existing OEM's is what makes it evil.
Having to work for a living is the root of all evil.
They could... or, more realistically, they might just not *bother* to include an option to disable the windows-eight-only lock. After all, somewhere around 1% of their customers are going to want to run non-Microsoft OSs, hardly a thriving market. Scarcely worth the cost of having someone program, test and document another option in the setup program.
Or maybe when Windows Ten comes out, Microsoft will demand that the windows-only-lock will be fixed on... as a security feature, of course, to prevent future supermalware from disabling it.
The game / app you want and secure boot can't be turned off on your dell?
Say you want to play Leisure Suit Larry 2012 but sorry windows app store does not have adult games.
So you try to install a steam game and a box comes saying that Steam Client Service does not work with Secure boot.
Could we start a white list of compatible hardware manufacturers or a black list of offending hardware (which ever is easier to maintain) so it would help us users that are planning for our next PC build?
The game / app you want and secure boot can't be turned off on your dell?
You bend over and pay $1000 for a motherboard with a switch that lets you turn it off. This whole thing is about destroying the open PC architecture and replacing it with vendor lock-in so they can rake in the cash.
An appliance that "just works" running windows doesn't "just work". It needs mollycoddling, handholding and effort to keep. An appliance that can run a "must-have application" says nothing about the ease of running the appliance, just about the capability of running that application. And since that application is a MUST HAVE, then they'll accept an appliance that "just doesn't work" that will run it because an appliance that just works but can't do the job is not an option.
And since the OP stated that "an appliance that just works" is what most PC users want, your case cannot be what most PC users want.
PS how many people watch netflix? It's not even available in the EU, never mind the world. MOST people can't access netflix. How many users need 16 bit CMYK press print in their camera snaps (especially since most camera users will use the 8bit RGB Jpeg format)? None. Who HAS to create flash apps? Nobody. TurboTax doesn't do the tax returns for 99% of the world's taxpayers. I've NEVER heard of Stone Edge. Sonic 3 is run by, oh, nobody. I've never seen a single person playing sonic 3, though I've seen a few games of Sonic on the SNES played (and the SNES doesn't run windows). Diablo II is niche. Compare sales of D2 with sales of Windows XP. Starcraft: even moreso. StreetFighter IV, ditto. CoD, ditto again. And, given that modern games like CoD require such draconian DRM that isn't designed to cooperate with other programs and isn't checked against coexistence with other DRM mechanisms, they reduce the ability to have a platform that "Just works".
As to that message's requirement for a free equivalent:
Netflix: DVD
Photoshop: GIMP
CS3: CS2 on Wine
TurboTax: Online banking , GNUCash, etc
StoneEdge: SCO's POS suite
All your Games: Games on Linux
enterprise use will drive booting older windows + linux but I seeing systems / software needed windows XP being a point that force this to be off on at least some systems.
Windows 7 that most enterprise is now moving to will HAVE TO WORK WITH Secure boot as I don't see windows 8 fitting into enterprise use the way that is now being planed.
OEMs don't need this to lock in hardware, they can do this just fine with regular BIOS.
That is the site that says iDevices overpower Android devices 4 to 1, right?
Well then all their other statistics must be right as well!
-- no sig today
I think lot's of people may not like that new UI and other stuff in windows 7 that is being taken out in windows 8.
And why exactly OEMs would want to bother? For that 1% of Linux users? Yeah, right.
UEFI systems without any sort of BIOS compatibility module won't be able to boot 32-bit versions of Windows XP. Of course that doesn't stop anyone from developing one (see efforts to boot Windows on x86 Macs pre-Boot Camp).
I think this'll only affect the desktop market. (why I run my desktop OSes - Linux, Windows, OSX - on a Mac instead of a PC). In the server space, though, that's big freaking money, and I think the manufacturers will be extremely reluctant to cause this trouble in that space. One of two things could happen here, I think... this will be enough of a political black eye that MS will give in and suggest allowances for other OSes or there will be pressure coming back from the server side toward desktops that can effect change. In any event, this will be interesting to watch.
#!/Jerald
The softie shills are out in force on this one.
this guy here...
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2498664&cid=37870070
Insane. Truly nuts.
"Sure you can trust Microsoft - all doubts are tinfoil"
No, no we can't. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
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BMO
APK unpatched psychological disturbances: over 9000!
The soylentnews experiment has been a dismal failure.
Like, "Unleaded Gas Only" just to make it visible to the idiot consumer what he or she is buying. "Runs Anything!" or "Runs Linux!" are optional, of course.
I know, silly idea, but sometimes I feel that this world is rather silly as well. Forcing a machine in hardware to only run Windows, for example.
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
It does still have the potential to pretty substantially change the game, though:
Goofy hacks like custom SPD fields and PCI-ID checks are effective enough to spoil the day of Joe User; but most of the implementations in the wild are pitifully weak: SPD data, for instance, are stored on a totally normal little SMBUS eeprom chip. Cloning a vendor-lockout SPD field onto a generic chip of similar capability is not terribly demanding. The proposed cryptographic mechanisms, designed from the ground up for the purpose and given considerably more resources to work with, should be a great deal tougher.
Also, since the objective of this "secure boot" is to establish a 'trusted' chain of execution from power-on to porn browsing, properly rigorous applications will likely require verification by default, rather than having verification be a hacky special case for wifi or RAM. After all, most modern peripherals contain pretty substantial onboard processing power, some amount of onboard flash and firmware, and quite possibly DMA, kernel drivers, or other potentially threatening abilities to make a nuisance of themselves elsewhere in the system...
PS how many people watch netflix? It's not even available in the EU
First: The United States is relevant because the Linux Foundation, mentioned in the article, is headquartered in the United States. Second: Yet. Third: By "Netflix" I meant "Netflix and foreign counterparts", and LoveFilm operates in several countries where Netflix does not.
How many users need 16 bit CMYK press print in their camera snaps (especially since most camera users will use the 8bit RGB Jpeg format)? None.
Professionals do.
Who HAS to create flash apps? Nobody.
What's the alternative to Flash for creating a vector animation?
TurboTax doesn't do the tax returns for 99% of the world's taxpayers.
First: The United States is relevant because the Linux Foundation, mentioned in the article, is headquartered in the United States. Second: By "TurboTax" I meant "software like TurboTax, such as its closest competitor H&R Block At Home, or foreign counterparts".
I've NEVER heard of Stone Edge.
Neither did I until I ended up at my last job. Just because you don't know anybody who runs a particular package doesn't mean nobody runs it.
Sonic 3 is run by, oh, nobody.
Then what well-known platform game is played by a lot of people? I bet a lot more people play Sonic 3 than SuperTux.
Diablo II is niche.
All individual video games are niche, just as all individual books are niche. But again, this is a sample, not an exhaustive list. The odds are greater that you'll find a game you like if you start with Windows than if you start with desktop Linux, especially when online multiplayer requires all players to have the same title.
Netflix: DVD
DVD watching software does not come with Linux because of U.S. patents and U.S. anticircumvention restrictions. VLC is technically illegal in the United States. The United States is relevant because the Linux Foundation, mentioned in the article, is headquartered in the United States.
Photoshop: GIMP
GIMP does not have 100 percent of the features of Photoshop. Professionals who rely on those features cannot rely on GIMP.
TurboTax: Online banking , GNUCash, etc
Those are counterparts to Quicken, not TurboTax. TurboTax has specific programming for a country's most recent income tax laws and for those of its political subdivisions.
StoneEdge: SCO's POS suite
Don't you remember the SCO $699 scam? That was a P.O.S.
All your Games: Games on Linux
Which popular video games, other than first-person shooters rated M for Mature (or foreign counterparts), are ported to Linux?
You really think it is that hard to program? There are many features in the bios that less than 1% of the population uses.
Enterprise customers are going to provide enough demand to support that feature. There are also a significant portion of the population who will want to run Linux or another version of Windows to justify the costs. It would be stupid if manufacturers don't support it.
Why on earth wouldn't Steam work with secure boot? Secure boot has to do with the boot up process. Steam is an application that runs AFTER the boot process is complete. Unless you're saying that Microsoft would modify Windows so that no unapproved software could run.
All the world's a CPU, and all the men and women merely AI agents
That depends. What are you wearing?
Yeah, the consumer will want to buy the one labeled "runs microsoft only" and the other one "runs everything"
Democracy Now! - uncensored, anti-establishment news
Exactly. Users don't want a 'PC that just works' or most of them wouldn't be running Windows.
You have a PHD in being a complete and utter moronic caricature of yourself.
The soylentnews experiment has been a dismal failure.
I just hope they sent a copy to the EU Competition Committee, as jack-shit will be done by USFedGov.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2498664&cid=37870532
Dell and HP make money selling all those boxes that run Linux, so they don't want to lose out on that business. Sure, they sell 10 times more Windows systems, but those servers represent a lot of their profit.
In the real world, Microsoft still rules about 85% to 90% of the market (depending whom you ask). Mac OS X is somewhere around 8% to 14% of the market (depending whom you ask), and Linux makes up less than 5% to 2% of the market depending whom you ask). That pretty much means that Microsoft isn't doing this as a means to handle the "Linux Threat". Companies like Dell and HP will still sell just as many Linux machines, and they'll provide the keys or whatever are needed to do just that.
The big issue is trying to fend off malware and root kits. Microsoft and done a 180 degree turn since XP came out. Vista and Windows 7 both have very strong anti-malware capabilities and in some ways, better than those found on Linux and Mac OS X. Windows 8 wants to move to the next level by being a secured OS that can detect the types of manipulations that malware might make and fix them. That's the purpose of this initiative.
It is in Microsoft's interest to keep desktop PCs open enough, so users can load multiple operating systems or remove Windows and install Linux. They don't want to get in trouble with anti-monopoly regulators in either the U.S. or in Europe. What MS want is to keep malware off Windows computers because it hurts their reputation.
what the hell are you on about?
Seriously, how far away is the thread you were trying to reply to?
LoL
-- no sig today
Unless you're saying that Microsoft would modify Windows so that no unapproved software could run.
DINGDINGDINGDING!
The marketing case for secure boot is that you'll never run those nasty, unapproved VIRUSES and TROJANS and OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWAREZ that those dirty communist unwashed anarchist hacker types are always trying to make you run. You just run those programs that our wonderful God-fearing right-thinking entirely trustworthy Microsoft-approved vendors are offering at a reasonable price.
That said, Steam would keep working, as long as they welcome our secure-booting overlords with sufficient enthusiasm. And toed the line. And never offered anything "offensive" to Microsoft's "sensibilities". (And by "offensive", I mean "competetive", and by "sensibilities", I mean "own software offerings.")
Welcome, my son... welcome to the machine.
Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
The bottom line is simple: a motherboard will not boot unless a third party permits. You will have no control over this. The computer is not yours.
Just buy one where the vendor didn't implement any restriction.
Yeah, but "support" will be restricted to two major product line categories: "enterprise" hardware (i.e., "servers" and "workstations"); and "enthusiast" hardware.
Do you see another common factor in those two market segments? Let me give a hint: it's spelled with currency marks, not alphanumerics.
So, the beige-boxes sold to Mom, Pop, and the average kid going to school will be locked into Windows in ways that would make the ghost of Steve Jobs return from the Beyond seething with envy. Motherboards with "turn off the secure boot" capability will be the stuff of hackers, gamerz, and corporate big-hardware types. Period. At least, until some government decides it needs to regulate those devices and restrict them to properly licensed "tame" hackers and approved corporates. At which point, owning an unlicensed unlockable system will rank right up there with combat firearms and explosives.
Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
Secure boot will be enabled by the likes of Dell, IBM, and HP, *but* their respective service processors would allow install of new platform keys given authentication. It's the only way they could get Windows 8 logo (which *will* continue to matter greatly) and the *only* way they can sell into half the market (large-scale, auto-deployed non-Windows systems). They would have to be careful not to do something like allow keys to be manipulated via in-band IPMI.
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
This will only cause me to uninstall my pirated Win7 and desert M$ completely. For the life of me I cannot even fathom the need for an authenticated boot process other than to lock people into using Windows under the facade of maintaining the rouse that it is simply an anti-piracy measure. Guess what MS Windows is not worth the price you charge and neither is Office. If it was then I would have paid you already!
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2498664&cid=37870070
OEM can use this to lock in to there video cards that can cost $100+ the price of other on line stores, hdd that cost the full price of a 1TB disk to just upgrade from 500gb to 1TB. Maybe even ram lock in so you can pay $60 to go from 2gb to 4gb. But for about $50 you can get good 8GB ram kits.
Yes, UEFI Secure Boot can be used for such anti-competitive tactics. I hope somebody tries something like that, since it will demonstrate to those who don't care about alternative operating systems how evil it is to lock users out of decisions about what to use with their own computers.
I wouldn't call posting truths/facts talent: Just what they are - facts, & truth...
APK
P.S.=> Trolling's NOT about posting facts & truths either... apk
Buy recent motherboards/components cheap for resale later to those not interested in the Win8 lock-in.
Hmm - you probably won't need many for the likely level of demand since most such folks will have figured that out for themselves, and will set aside a few for themselves.
Oh well, it was a thought...
Given the ratio of "professional users" to "toy users" of any technology (from cars to hammers), I'd say that the 7.6% figure is about right. The professional users don't want a toy OS like Windows.
Yeah, that's why no business whose livelihood depend on people getting work done would ever use Windows on the desktop, right? Because that's pretty much the definition of "professional user" from cars to hammers, using it in a profession. Until then you're just a enthusiast or prosumer, no matter how many hours you spend tinkering with your car. I'll leave it up to you to choose who of the people at car shows and taxi drivers are the toy users and who are the professionals...
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
Depends.
How about:
1) look for a driver on the manufacturer's site (works great for intel adapters, they're all on sourceforge)
2) google for a prebuilt package made available by another user
3) build the driver as an external module
4) try a newer distro version
Of course, if you have a crappy wifi card with no linux support whatsoever then you're screwed...but I haven't run into that in a long time, at least for retail network adapters.
Remove you tinfoil. There are enough market forces to ensure that most computers systems will have the option to unlock.
The worst case is that manufacturers are going to try to charge extra for an unlockable dual boot computer. The greed will be with the manufacturers and not Microsoft. It will likely backfire because the PC industry is a commodity business and their will be plenty of competitors who will sell an unlockable computer of the same specs without the extra charge.
Market forces can't go against laws. If all the governments makes it illegal to own such hardware, then we're screwed.
Apple has done this sort of hardware locking, too. Most OEMs will not be able to get away with it because of how competitive the OEM market is for Windows PCs. Apple can get away with it because Apple effectively has a natural monopoly on Macs.
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All UEFI based equipment that do not provide the user an ability to maintain the PK must have a URF'D florescent orange sticker 110% of the size of any MS sticker.
There is no right to feel safe thru security vaudeville at the expense of everyone's freedom, privacy and tax money.
Make disabling it as easy as moving a jumper, then making the changes and moving it back. If an attacker can move a jumper, you have bigger problems.
At what markup?
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
Probably none. There's no more reason for a vendor to make these boards more expensive than boards they're selling right now.
Adding a BIOS option to disable the secure boot feature doesn't cost anything, and it only increases the number of potential customers, so any sane vendor would include something like that.
The day the end user loses control of the platform key, is the day they lose control of their rights, DRM, the apocalypse
This really is the doomsday scenario, I'm surprised there isnt massive collective action against this
Anyone remember this braindead attempt to rest control of our PCs over the big companies, and the RIAA/MPAA:
http://cryptome.org/sssca.htm
Thats right, it would be highly illegal to even ship computers without the mandatory hardware DRM technology
(oh people will find an exploit in it ISNT a good enough reason not to worry about it)
If you the end user dont own your own platform key, you're fucked, excuse the french
Already some machines will ship without the option of disabling "secure boot"
read: drm boot, surveillance boot, government approved backdoors boot, government approved malware^H^H^H^H^H^H^H "rights" enforcement software etc
This is not a tin-foil hat, this is real, and this is happening NOW
I have a hard time believing someone like Dell would offer locked down machines.
I worked at a uni for a spell with Linux labs on our standard Dell build. If they suddenly start saying "Windows only." they will be buying their 500-1,000 machines a year from whoever is selling unlocked boxes.
I mean look at places like Google, they have a "Zero Windows unless you have permission from the CIO." policy. I would think vendors would not be dumb enough to lock themselves out of that potential revenue.
Not saying I agree and that this doesn't need attention, but I get the feeling vendors are not that stupid. And MS themselves would draw the ire of the EU if not the US.
No sig for you!!
Too bad for you: SECUNIA.COM's specialty is posting the state of unpatched vs. patched security vulnerabilities (and it certainly shows a BOATLOAD MORE for Linux in its kernel alone, vs. nearly ALL of what Microsoft gives folks for business & development... period!).
* To quote Jack Nicholson as Col. Jessup in "A few good men"? "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"
APK
P.S.=> And, that truth backed by a reputable security site in SECUNIA.COM, is this (once again, for your reference):
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Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2008: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21744/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 1 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Exchange Server 2010: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/28234/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/29809/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 3 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Forefront Endpoint Protection 2010: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34343/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 1 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer 2.x: (11/27/2011):
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6436/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories
Unpatched 0% (0 of 9 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Project 2010: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/31177/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows Services for UNIX 3.x: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/5244/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 3 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.x: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34591/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Virtual PC 2007: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/14315/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 1 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Visual Studio 2010: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30853/?task=advisories
Unpatched 0% (0 of 2 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft DirectX 10.x:
(08/02/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/16896/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 3 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft .NET Framework 4.x
(08/02/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/29592/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 8 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft
Especially over time, than you do (& I can prove much of it easily... from the commercial software world, shareware, & freeware alone (I have dozens more from custom information systems work too)).
Here's a TINY sampling thereof, from a partial list only (of some of my "favs" over time):
"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3
It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html or here http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2993462&group_id=199532&atid=969873
AND lastly: http://g-off.net/software/a-python-repeatable-threadingtimer-class where I got other programmer's work WORKING RIGHT (in PyThon no less, which I just started learning only 2 week ago no less) by showing them how to use a "Dummy Proxy Function" as I call it, to make a RepeatTimer class (Thread sub-class really) to take PARAMETERIZED FUNCTIONS, ala:
def apkthreadlaunch():
getnortonsafeweb(sAPKFileName = "APK_1_NortonSafeWeb360Extracted.txt".rstrip())
a = RepeatTimer(900, apkthreadlaunch) # 900 is 15 minutes... apk
Where it was NOT working for many folks there, before (submitted to the maker of the RepeatTimer class no less, & yes, it WORKS!)
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What do I have to say about that much above? I can't say it any better, than this was stated already (from the greatest book of all time, the "tech manual for life" imo):
"But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which wa
"You don't have any credibility here, 'APK'." - by bill_mcgonigle (4333) * on Friday October 28, @03:05PM (#37872276) Homepage
Between this & what I posted in my last posting here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2498664&cid=37872868
?
Seems you like to "open your mouth & insert your foot into it", BOY... lol!
APK
P.S.=> Here's the upward moderated opinions of others on only SOME of my postings on this website since 2005 (more exist from before that, but I never recorded them):
You're "mere opinion" is outgunned & outnumbered, 150++:1, BOY:
Roughly 160++ of them & I post as AC (hard to get even +1, as /. hides our posts & we "AC"'s start @ ZERO/0 points, unlike registered "lusers", lol!):
+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (6):
CA DISREPUTABLE #2 of 2:2010 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34350102
EXCEL SECURITY FIX:2009 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1139485&cid=26975021
TESLA:2010 -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1872982&cid=34264190
TESLA:2010 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1806946&cid=33777976
NVIDIA 2d:2006 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175774&cid=14610147
HOSTS & BGP:2010 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1901826&cid=34490450
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+4 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (3):
INFO. SYSTEMS WORK:2005 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=161862&cid=13531817
WINDOWS @ NASDAQ 7++ YRS. NOW:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1290967&cid=28571315
CARMACK'S ARMADILLO AEROSPACE:2005 -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=158310&cid=13263898
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+3 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (7):
APK MICROSOFT INTERVIEW:2005 -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=155172&cid=13007974
APK MS SYMBOLIC DIRECTORY LINKS:2005 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=166850&cid=13914137
APK RC STOP ROOKIT TECHNIQUES:2008 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1021873&cid=25681261
APK FOOLS IE7 INSTALL IN BETA HOW TO:2006 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175857&cid=14615222
PROOFS ON OPERA SPEED & SECURITY:2007 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=273931&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=20291847
HBGary POST in Fake Names On Social Networks, a Fake Problem:2011 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2375110&cid=37056304
INJUSTICES:2010 -> http://apple.s
There's no reason for an OEM to refuse to sell PCs without Windows either. Still, they do it all the time. Whether it's a deal with microsoft, or just the hassle of tracking an extra SKU, it's hard to buy a PC without Windows on it. It will probably be even harder to buy a PC that's not locked to Windows.
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
Well TG Steam runs on a Mac.... Oh wait nm mac might do this too.... Dammit why won't they come out with a *nix platform?
All the world's a CPU, and all the men and women merely AI agents
Try this on for size too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2498664&cid=37872868
(You done more, better, & especially earlier than I have in the computer sciences arena in publication of wares you did, such as commercially sold highly esteemed code to my credit for a certified MS partner?)
* Per my subject-line above? U FAIL - Just "too, Too, TOO EASILY", vs. myself, everytime...
APK
P.S.=> You little kids around here, with your BIG mouths? You make me laugh... especially "Big Mouth Bill" from the link above also, in addition to the one you replied to (that has over 150++ upward mods to my favor of my postings here since 2005, & I've got FAR MORE THAN THAT from the 2 yrs. before that I never recorded)... apk
Wow, I've had enough of the internet for today.
You can disable this with one flipped bit on the BIOS flash image(*). But try messing with the ROM in a trusted path UEFI BIOS and your machine is permanently bricked.
* Maybe the regular user can't do this, but it only takes one person to do it and release the flash image for everyone else.
You just listed two reasons right there!
CAPATCHA: impudent
1st - Linux also doesn't have as high quality drivers or as many because board makers KNOW what is "running the show/market " out there, Windows - so, they cater to it immensely!
2nd - Nor does Linux have as many games, by FAR, either (this is mostly the home market in fact!)
3rd - Not only that. but Linux, in its KERNEL ONLY mind you? Has 4x the unpatched security vulnerabilities Windows 7 has (which IS a complete "distro" with all of its parts, not just a kernel only)!
4th - Despite all those "Open 'SORES'" eyes (most of whom couldn't code to SAVE THEIR LIVES mind you) allegedly poring over Linux code, how come it has that many more unpatched bugs than Windows 7 has, hmmm??
Closed source is HARDER for hacker/crackers to attack as well, because you're stuck either disassembling it (especially tough with kernel level debuggers) OR fuzzing it, either is tougher than searching out problems in Linux, which you just load into a compiler & step trace its "Open 'SORES'" code with to find screwups in security... hence it still has more security bugs, AND, they are unpatched (despite all the "Open 'SORES'" eyes poring over it, lol!)
Fact, period!
5th - In fact, Linux's kernel ALONE has 4x the # of unpatched bugs the ENTIRE SUITE/ARRAY OF WHAT MICROSOFT GIVES YOU TO DO BUSINESS & DEVELOPMENT WITH!
Proof? Ok:
This data's ALL from a respected source (secunia.com) for known security vulnerabilities unpatched:
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Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SQL Server 2008: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21744/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 1 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.x: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/17543/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 6 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Exchange Server 2010: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/28234/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/29809/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 3 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Forefront Endpoint Protection 2010: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34343/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 1 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer 2.x: (11/27/2011):
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/6436/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Office 2010: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30529/?task=advisories
Unpatched 0% (0 of 9 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Project 2010: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/31177/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 0 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Windows Services for UNIX 3.x: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/5244/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 3 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.x: (11/27/2011)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/34591/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 4 Secunia advisories)
Vulnerability Report: Microsoft
LMAO see subject-line above... I sign off as APK, not -> ... apk, first of all... & I use a 'p.s.', 99% of the time too!
APK
P.S.=> See above? Lol, man.. trolls!
... apk
...Open source code has several reviewers, ergo code gets analyzed by multiple parties, resulting in several checks that are performed faster than the corporate collective (provided those maintaining open source code aren't lazy, which.. let me put it this way, as a programmer, they aren't).
Closed-source code is simply closed and applied against company restrictions as well as planning policies. Ever hear the phrase Open-Minded vs. Close-Minded? Think that.
You're wrong on every account, along with the fact that "vulnerabilities" take what's called, I don't know, priority. Linux MAY, and I stress MAY because I do not immediately KNOW, contain several minor bugs, while Windows systems usually have a good system-breaking few that slipped past quality check.
Learn how programming works, how software planning works, how software design is done, and what variants of "bugs" exist.
How is making a MB that can bypass (in)Secure Boot technically more difficult than making a MB that allows CPU cores to be unlocked?
Hallelujah!
Which is exactly what they're doing on the Metro side.
DON'T BUY IT IF IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT.
The problem comes when the large corporations A. do not provide what I want and B. have manipulated the market and the law such that nobody else can provide what I want.
Can you imagine someone buying a windows 8 secure-boot-locked pc to use as a router/firewall?
No, one is supposed to buy a secure-boot-locked ARM device to use as a home router/firewall, and one is supposed to buy business-priced computer to use as a business firewall. It commands a business price solely because it isn't secure-boot-locked, much as game console devkits are one to two orders of magnitude more expensive than retail consoles.
Or for driving a SAN
I'm not terribly familiar with how a SAN works; every environment I've seen uses NAS instead. NAS is available on dedicated appliances.
Moving all your business away from your usual vendor and towards a 'friendly' one sure as hell will
The lockdown proponents use market and law manipulation to make sure the 'friendly' ones can't do business.
It sounds it since you know some about myself. I do own a nice car and rental property (as well as a home). Many folks (decent folks that is who pay taxes) do.
Big Mouth Bill also seems to have run off like the coward he is as well after shooting his mouth off and apparently not accomplishing 1/10th of what I did in comp. sci. related things though he said I have no credibility... lol, if I don't, then he surely doesn't, because I've obviously done more (probably before bill mconigle was born as I said and judging by his running away when confronted that he had best show myself & others here he's donemore).
As far as my owning a home also, well, that's been established by yourself now, and you stalked me on that note also. I have nothing to fear, unlike yourself, obviously. I won't deny truths (and I am proud of having my own home which you, obviously don't).
You're VERY wrong on this much also:
"getting his name included in the credits of an open-source project by sending someone a code sample which he basically copied-and-pasted from a MSDN article on thread management" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 28, @10:19PM (#37876270)
What I sent to the guys in the Open Source 64 bit defragger project (UltraDefrag) was in Delphi - not a Microsoft language & Win32 API calls to "port" to C for UltraDefrag64: So you are WRONG, yet again - question: How can you stand looking SO STUPID in front of everyone? OH, I know: You post as AC, without ANY INDICATOR of who you really are. I will tell you who you really are - truly a coward.
APK
P.S.=> The sportscar's a Tiburon GT V6 & it's very nice (I like it as much as the 1972 SS Chevelle I used to have as a young man in fact, & much better gas mileage too) - see, unlike yourself? I don't have to "hide" who I am or what I have - it's all paid up in full!
... apk
Others tend to disagree with your quoted opinion below:
"He's Alexander Peter Kowalski, professional troll, best known for being the "HOSTS troll" and (well, other than posting crapfloods of tl;dr semi-retarded garbage with obnoxious over-use of CAPS and boldface, anonymously, though signed with his initials, often multiple times as he likes to add postscripts and post-postscripts, which he also signs with his initials - not that anyone ever reads that far down into one of his posts)" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 28, @10:19PM (#37876270)
You're outnumbered badly, :1 here:
* THE HOSTS FILE GROUP 30++ THUSFAR (from +3 -> +1 RATINGS, usually "informative" or "interesting" etc./et al):
BANNER ADS & BANDWIDTH:2011 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2139088&cid=36077722
FILTERING ONLINE:2010 -> http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1790178&cid=33610372
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1907266&cid=34529608
HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1490078&cid=30555632
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1869638&cid=34237268
HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1461288&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=30272074
HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1255487&cid=28197285
HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1206409&cid=27661983
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1725068&cid=32960808
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1743902&cid=33147274
APK 20++ POINTS ON HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1913212&cid=34576182
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1862260&cid=34186256
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 (w/ facebook known bad sites blocked) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1924892&cid=34670128
HOSTS FILE MOD UP FOR ANDROID MALWARE:2010 -> http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1930156&cid=34713952
HOSTS MOD UP ZEUSTRACKER:2011 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2059420&cid=35654066
HOSTS MOD UP vs AT&T BANDWIDTH CAP:2011 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2116504&cid=35985584
HOSTS MOD UP CAN DO SAME AS THE "CloudFlare" Server-Side service:2011 -> http://it.slashdot.or
Suppose one writes a BIOS that is compatible with UEFI. Can we use that virtual bios to load any operating system compatible with it?
Who says that the operating system must talk directly to the hardware bios.
Leslie Satenstein Montreal Quebec Canada
See subject-line above: I can do that you know, lol, in regards to this:
"Re: your shitty contribution to Defraggler (Delphi?!?!! I laughed) changing the language a pseudocode sample is written in doesn't make it any less a "copy&paste" job." - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 29, @11:52AM (#37879292)
FIrst of all, it was UltraDefrag64, not defraggler (no wonder you can't get anything right, lol - you can't READ, even!).
Secondly, see subject-line above: I sent them code I have used time & again in multithreaded apps I wrote since 1995 online, in a "std. routine" I wrote...
QUESTION: WHAT HAVE YOU EVER DONE IN THE COMPUTER SCIENCES THAT MADE BOOKS, MAGAZINES, COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE CODE (as I have to all of those) IN COMPUTER SCIENCE, Mr. "ne'er-do-well" online psycho-stalker?
Nothing obviously, lol...
* It's pretty clear @ this point that you've tried to "take me on" in things technical in computing before, & now you're reduced to trolling/stalking me like the crazo you are, obviously - get over your "geek angst": You do NOT possess the intelligence (or accomplishments) to ever "get the best of me" (& you're pitiful stalking of myself shows that much to anyone, lol).
APK
P.S.=> Since you know where my home is, just "google earth" it - you'll probably see my automobile in those photos... It IS a nice ride, by ALL means (nice home too).
In the end, face it - U FAIL here, just as you obviously have in life itself, lol...
... apk
As have I, coding professionally since late 1994 in fact (as to paychecks), which is how I obtained nice things like a home & sportscar, paid in full.
* So, NOW YOU PROVE YOU HAVE INDEED MADE A PAYCHECK and in computing related work - ok? You certainly haven't proved you've done more in the comp. sci. arena than I have & like Bill M. earlier who ran?? I did those things while you were still in diapers I wager, most likely.
APK
P.S.=> Of course, you'll evade that, just as you have evaded proving you've done anything that was worthwhile noting in books, magazines, computer trade shows like MS Tech Ed (2 yrs. in a row for my code in fact, & in a commercial product) etc. that I have done in the arena of the computer sciences)...
... apk
Bucky24 wrote : Unless you're saying that Microsoft would modify Windows so that no unapproved software could run.
Wow, we are getting the message through at last!!!
APK you've trashed the off topic ac stalker here many times already. You prove your points and most especially with the nutty stalker who's forced to go off topic on top of everything else here because they're obviously helpless in computing apparently so they go off topic trying to discredit you but you burn them everytime. Yes, I've seen this in your posts for weeks now with this nutcase stalking you anonymously to no avail. He always ends up making you look good which is rather funny in fact. In my estimation, this stalker's obviously a sick individual with some serious issues. Probably geek angst as you have stated already. Geeks are notorious for it, or should I say, wannabe geeks who get shot down trying to get the better of yourself here. I'd have to say mental ones in fact but I am not a psychoanalyst. Time to leave it alone by now, you've done him in badly.
Prove your words http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2498664&cid=37880524 You've also proved things for me about apk (his own home, car, and jobs coding was proven by the times he actually did well in programming in freeware, shareware, and commercial code even (thus paid) that went to a finalist position @ MS Tech-Ed 2 yrs. in a row in the hardest category there: SQLServer performance enhancement). The other ac apk was correct as usual, you lose again, like usual. All you have left is more of your illogical off topic adhominem attacks. You FAIL and if you're calling others fag, this is obviously yourself projecting your own problems.
I won't. He's not worth my time. I suspect, like yourself, he is a mentally deranged individual is all whose been stalking my posts here for months now is all.
Some harmless little geek with no balls and plenty of geek angst on his part.
Yes - I suspect that he may have "tried me" on technical things here and was made to look foolish due to mistakes he made which I pointed out & corrected, which he clearly could not handle like a man.
APK
P.S.=> This is my suspicion on this, hence why he's trying to attack me constantly off topic, with illogical adhominem attacks as well. It's all he has and he's too weak to disprove technical points I put up is all. Typical geek angst ridden "not man" as I call that type... apk
See iPad sales.
I know tobacco is bad for you, so I smoke weed with crack.
See subject, and this once more (since you're projecting) http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2498664&cid=37887174
you're still here? it's obvious that you're interested, so why don't you just come out of the closet already?
Speak for yourself.
Who projects his own problems (evidently with ur own homosexuality on ur part)?? NO thank you" Get this straight: I am not a homosexual here, so, you should "find another dish, I am not on the menu". Ok???
Security vulnerabilities then, hmmm? LMAO - you're full of it, & "argue with the numbers", here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2498664&cid=37870070 because they show that the LINUX KERNEL ALONE HAS 4x++ MORE UNPATCHED SECURITY VULNERABILITIES THAN DOES NEARLY ALL OF WHAT MICROSOFT GIVES FOLKS TO DO BUSINESS & DEVELOPMENT WITH (and yes, Linux has unpatched REMOTELY vulnerable ones there, 3 of them)... period!
As to "learn how programming works"? LMAO, listen boy: The day you can show me that you've done MORE THAN I HAVE, EARLIER & BETTER TOO, in the art & science of programming, ala:
"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3
It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html or here http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2993462&group_id=199532&atid=969873
AND lastly: http://g-off.net/software/a-python-repeatable-threadingtimer-class where I got other programmer's work WORKING RIGHT (in PyThon no less, which I just started learning only 2 week ago no less) by showing them how to use a "Dummy Proxy Function" as I call it, to make a RepeatTimer class (Thread sub-class really) to take PARAMETERIZED FUNCTIONS, ala:
def apkthreadlaunch():
getnortonsafeweb(sAPKFileName = "APK_1_NortonSafeWeb360Extracted.txt".rstrip())
a = RepeatTimer(900, apkthreadlaunch) # 900 is 15 minutes..
That's probably in the works. In the end it's all about DRM. They tried to drop it straight at the top of the software stack (media players) and it didn't work out so well, so now they're going from the bottom up.
Here's how it will work:
1) Control the boot-up procedure and make sure no other OS can run on the machine.
2) Tie-in with Windows Update and driver signatures, after all, nobody can argue that having hardware-authenticated updates and drivers is a good thing, right?
3) Next come the security apps -- 'cause nobody wants malware messing with or disabling their firewall and antivirus.
4) Then it's a very short step to application whitelists, which follows naturally from the security step before.
5) Finally, you can really control the app content, since the entire stack is locked tight.
i ate crayons when i was a kid and now i have two braincells and the blue ones taste nicer
ur still here? omg. whatta fag.
An increasing number of companies sell desktops/laptops without an OS ,hence with a 'normal' BIOS and will no doubt continue doing that in future to protect their business. This meaning that one will be able to continue installing Linux
I shall never buy a brand (locked) machine again . Simple !
See subject-line above. It says it all.
one thing all trolls forget. Opinion of linux geeks counts among friends, families, charity institutions. I have already salved around 7 computers or so from bank who donated to charity organisation in Republic of Ireland. Person in charge of that place wasnt very happy about heraing costs of windows. Ubuntu suited them just fine...Now, my best firends all use windows, mind that my friends were technical themselves, so they affect even more people.
Now imagine hypotetical situation: linux cant be installed on some PC they want to install, next thing we know - dont buy acer, msi, asus, dell, whichever, all round place, forums, personal conversations. Little price win vs big bad reputation?
.Now, my best firends all use windows
s/windows/linux/
I also don't just think this, I know it - You're just an off topic troll.
Get this straight: I am not a homosexual here
"The ruling on the field stands". APK gets charged with a timeout and something like that.
So, sorry to disappoint you on both accounts (since you seem to prefer fat homosexuals, with your constantly calling me "fag" etc. (illogical off topic adhominem attacks don't "get to me", face it/accept it)).
* Projecting your faults onto others isn't a good debate style, as it "shows your tell", as poker folks say... it's about as effective as your off topic illogical adhominem attack style is (which is 0% effective).
APK
P.S.=> The weight issue you keep trying to put onto me? You're merely projecting your own problem (how's your diabetes??)...
... apk
Yup, confirmed for projecting (how's your diabetes)?
See subject-line above... nothing like the truth, eh?
You're free to write the publishers of the books, magazines, software production houses in the commercial world I noted also (in fact, because he was good to do work for? Ask for Mr. Eric Dickman, CEO of SuperSpeed.com, & tell him I said "Hi Eric!"), as to things I've done in computer sciences that I listed - would you like more? I can put them up very fast if you wish...
As to what I own? Well, you know I own my own home, fully paid for etc., + a nice sportscar too (Google Maps can show anyone this, should they choose to look & continue to "stalk me" as you are, assuming their photos are updated).
Of course, we all KNOW you have "none of the above", & you certainly can't prove even 1 of them, can you now, AC stalker? Nope, lol...
* You speak of getting professional help: Consider your own advice for yourself, because you're behaving like an online stalking psycho, lol!
APK
P.S.=> You project your own failings, being fat & gay obviously being your 2 main "personal fails", since you constantly cast those dispersions here in your off topic illogical adhominem attack style (effete & useless)...
... apk
If apk's nothing, U w/ nothing to show 4 urself = less than nothing. Apk did decent things in computers, but u anonymous coward never have and u never will. Otherwise U'd produce 'em when asked. U ask proofs of others but U evade answering when the same questions are directed to U. U lose, loser.