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Carmakers Prepare For Augmented Reality Driving
An anonymous reader writes "Car manufacturers at CES are showing off their future integration of mobile computing technologies and automobiles. Quoting CNN: 'As digital tech — and our expectations for it — becomes more mobile, carmakers are taking notice. Many automotive designers here seem to have taken inspiration from smartphones, with their promise of being always connected and their vast menu of apps for every purpose. ... Simply point your hand at them, and the icons open to show real-time information: when that bridge over there was built, what band is playing at that nightclub on the left, whether that new café up the street has any tables available. Wave your hand again, and you've made a restaurant reservation. ... All these advancements may make driving more interesting. Or they may spoil one of modern society's last refuges from the hyper-connected digital world. Either way, they are coming soon.'"
How about when you are driving, you pay attention to driving?
Get out of jail free cards for everyone, guys! Just claim the HUD malfunctioned and gave you a seizure (or simply obscured your view) if you happen to run over some pedestrian.
Who's to say it ain't so?
Something bad is coming when people are suddenly anxious to tell the truth.
I thought we covered all our bases when we discussed why talking on a cell phone and driving is a bad idea. Any distraction from driving is a bad one.
And here's the Facebook page of that pedestrian you just ran over.
Have gnu, will travel.
Stop doing this and make my car drive itself first..thx
Seriously I need that sort of thing like I need another whole in my head. Make my be a better car, not try to turn it into a smartphone.
You want to augment my reality...make some sunglasses that do...make my eyes better.
Yes, that's exactly what's needed in the modern car: more distractions, and reasons to let go of the steering wheel and take your eyes off the road so you can watch that restaurant as you wave your hands at it as you drive by...
If the masses can keep you down, you're not the Ubermensch.
Operating such an interface would be against the law here. Thankfully.
If industry lobbyists manage to get this legalized, expect this to directly increase car wrecks and fatalities.
Wave your hand again, and you've made a restaurant reservation.
Yes, and we know where that leads...
My internet browser heard us saying the word Fry and it found a movie about Philip J. Fry for us. It also opened my calendar to Friday and ordered me some french fries.
Driving is sometimes a pleasure and often a pain. However it demands focus and attention for your safety and for others on the road.
Quoting the article- "Simply point your hand at them, and the icons open to show real-time information: when that bridge over there was built, what band is playing at that nightclub on the left,"
This might be entertainment for the people sitting in the backseat - it might even be informative for kids.
This would definitely be a major nuisance for me if I were driving. Don't get me wrong – I am not against technology – but I also believe that there are some places where technology can be a hindrance and IMO this is one of them.
This is the reason why I am keeping my '99 Toyota Camry until it falls apart. FWIW, 180,000+ miles and it looks good, drives great, has really comfortable seats for long drives (excellent lumbar support), runs like a Swiss watch, and gets 30-35mpg on the highway (25 in town).
Make life more complicated to peddle more shit to us so that we can work more to pay them off, instead of simplifying it and saving everyone's time and resources by better mass transportation.
i hear people are going to their jobs in paris by boarding the fast trains from bordeaux ffs. in usa, you can just get to your job from your house in the same time length.
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Based on the headline "augmented reality," I assumed it would be used for things like highlighting on the windshield pedestrians with a bright outline, given that pedestrians are invisible to drivers since they are thin and vertical in a visual field cluttered with thin and vertical poles. Little did I know it was just a HUD for Q codes.
What we need is smarter cars not more "Stuff" going on in the windshield. (besides KITT would have hacked into the restaurant and gotten you that reservation before you got within 2 blocks of it).
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This reminds me of those Racing Video Games with all those HUDs on the screen. I wonder if there will be a score board too?
-- By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out.
If the car makes lock in the radio what to stop them from sim locking so your trip to Canada or even boarder areas with even entering in to Canada will come with a hidden bill with a $20 a meg fee.
. . . "augmented reality" would be too much for them to handle.
Unfortunately, they won't notice it until things go "crash!"
And then claim that it was the car's fault.
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
Car manufacturers aren't exactly known for making good user interfaces (apart from the vehicle's primary controls).
All I want is a car that drive's itself. The rest seems like overated fluff and a distraction worse than txting is today.
Officer: You're not really driving at night with a tinted windshield, are you? Driver: My vision is augmented.
Oh okay there, Chung Chi Ming! ...and then later on have fun getting stopped for a DWI!
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1. The police, who will have heard it a million times and will know better.
2. The car company, who don't want the dip in sales or to be sued.
3. The company developing the technology, who also don't want the dip in sales or to be sued.
4. The pedestrian, who will have a much easier time suing you than #2, or #3.
5. Witnesses.
6. Your skid marks from hitting your breaks when you see the pedestrian.
7. Your medical history.
Probably more. But you go ahead and lie to the cops, your insurance company, and again under oath.
In reality, the auto companies and their partners in university labs have been doing work research on HUDs for a while. The augmented reality approach has been tried in research studies as a result of successes in the aviation community. However, there are huge differences between augmented reality for cars when comparing to planes and pedestrians. The point of this post is not that HUDs are bad or unlikely to succeed, but rather that the designers of trade show concepts are ignoring much of the existing research. The concepts in TFA are unlikely to be used for actual products due to safety issues. Expect simpler HUDs focused on safety oriented problems. Here are some of the safety problems:
First, cars tend to hit things quicker. This is a crude point about recovery time, but a major one.
Second, there is considerably more variation in scene brightness due to driving speeds and local factors like buildings and trees. This leads to challenges perceiving the HUD imagery. Demos on trade show floors and labs usually gloss over this factor.
Perhaps the biggest concern is that there humans have perception errors due to the way our brains integrate augmented reality with the real world. First is the issue of cognitive capture. This is when you ignore the real world and just use the HUD for your information. For example, the collision warning system may highlight all the moving vehicles, so you learn to just look for the highlighting. Unlike a video game where every object is known, automotive sensing doesn't work 100% and objects will be missed. Cognitive capture is when you fail to perceive the kid running into the middle of the street because he wasn't highlighted. This can be demonstrated easily in the lab and many studies have concrete evidence of this.
The second perception problem is that HUDs can lead to misperception of distance. A HUD can only have one focal length while the real world has an infinite amount. Mismatches can lead to the driver misinterpreting the distance of an object. This isn't a problem when flying (everything is at optical infinity) or walking (you're moving to slow), but can cause problems when driving.
The third perception problem is masking. This is when the information about the new cafe covers the pedestrian crossing the street.
If your organization has access to this paper, it is an excellent primer on the issues. And yes, it was written in 1997.
Simply put, insurance companies and government regulators won't allow these kinds of systems to come into play any time soon due to good old risk aversion. Until cars can drive themselves reliably and the operator is downgraded to passenger...this kind of system simply is not well received outside of the circles of auto manufacturers and computer companies looking for something different.
With the number of jurisdictions that are bringing in laws against distracted driving, I think this is already a dead point. The auto companies can be investing their research monies better than this.
then you get instead of a blue screen you get the grey wall of death
I agree, but it's not just the insurance companies. I simply refuse to buy a car with this crap. I need an MP3 socket for my iPod and that's it. If it means I have to buy a 2012 car and run it for 20 years, so be it.
If I used a sig over again, would anyone notice?
Augmented Reality Driving? Yeah!
Legalized DWI! Party on! Woooooo!
I don't want that crap while I'm driving ... I want to know my route, if there's construction delays, if there's been an accident up ahead ... you know, stuff pertinent to the actual act of driving a motor vehicle.
If you start giving the average driver this kind of crap, you're going to get more road hazards as someone idiot is waving his hand at his windshield trying to pre-order a double, skinny, tall, machiato with extra foam before he gets to Starbucks (and, no, I don't care if any of those words actually apply to Starbucks) ... from what I can tell, most drivers can barely focus on the act of driving, they don't need their car to be some information/entertainment hub.
With more places moving ahead with distracted driving laws, do car companies really want to be putting in this kind of stuff? This just sounds really dangerous and stupid to me.
Sure, in-car GPS is a huge boost to driving ... but looking up when a bridge was constructed or making restaurant reservations? Sorry, but that's not something you should be doing while driving.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
As a motorcycle commuter, this certainly ensures my death.
the fact that such a thing is possible, means that if more investment is made, common people can also use them due to costs going down.
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I don't want info about bridges and stores. How about it shows the speed of the other cars on the road? Or just some sort of indicator that I'm too close to the car in front of me to stop in time if he slams on his brakes. I'm sure there's plenty of other information that could assist my driving as long as it's displayed as unobtrusively as possible. Distracted driving already causes plenty of accidents.
In local news, police are struggling to deal with the startling increase in traffic around local area strip clubs. Apparently the new "augmented reality" displays in the new cars are showing 30 second previews of their wares.
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
"when that bridge over there was built" -- if your passenger told you that, you'd consider it the most boring fact possible, and you'd give them the finger.
"what band is playing at that nightclub on the left" -- because I'm going to drive around town for hours waiting for my car to name a band I've heard of? Not quite. I'm going to sit still, and decide which night club to go to. I'm not going to pull over on my way to a movie and instead go to a nightclub.
"whether that new café up the street has any tables available." -- when was the last time you walked into a cafe and were told that you'd need to wait more than six minutes?
"Wave your hand again, and you've made a restaurant reservation." -- great, I'd like a reservation for ten seconds from now. I'm at the red light on the corner.
two hands on the wheel.
Input:Point at car that just cut me off
Output: Home and work address, mobile number, and hack my way into his GPS instructions.
Thanks.
Silence is a state of mime.
Adding technology to cars is OK, but shouldn't they be focusing on researching alternate fuel engines? Fuel will begin to be scarce in the upcoming years, with fuel prices rising exponentially in the process. The environment would also be thankful.
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I don't really care about gadgets with exception of two-way radios (which are all user add-ons). My gripe is I hate the trends of car designs particularly shorter windows. I recently drove a new Acura (loaner while my older one was in for repair), it was scary. So many blind spots and reduced peripheral vision. It was like driving a bus or large truck, I had to constantly be aware of others approaching from behind. With a smaller car, you can quickly look to know surroundings before changing lanes especially doing it quickly.
I have to say my best car was a 1982 Mercury Zephyer (basically a Ford Fairmont). I got it for $3600 used in 1986 at 50K miles, drove it to 214K miles (by then piston rings were shot and the car was getting to be too much of a smoko). It was 4-door, big windows, small (or mid) size with 22mpg (it had a 20 gal tank for a whopping 440 mile range). Trunk was huge, lots of leg room both front and back. When me and my buddies went someplace, we used my car as all four of us can comfortably occupy. It had column shift so no big divider in the center. This makes it ideal to setup cluster of two-way radios (however, back then I was not into it as much as I'm now). Previous car I had before was a TransAm, I first got it because it looked fun but sold it a year later. Yes it has the big 400hp engine but it pretty much can only seat two (back seat is worthless), trunk was small, range was only 200 miles (it was a gas guzzler but tank was small), and basically it was uncomfortable to sit in after awhile. My friends thought I was crazy for giving that up for the Zephyer (they called it an old lady car).
I miss that Mercury Zephyer, it would be great for all my commo equipment which is ***difficult*** to setup in today's cars. No, I'm not going to get some big SUV, truck, Suburban, or (shudder) a used Crown Vic. However, looking back Ford hit it right with that model, like Chrysler with the Dodge Dart/Plymouth Valiant. Not expensive and the damn things run forever. In fact I had a Valiant bought used with a lot of miles, drove for lots more miles (like an idiot I gave away and bought the TransAm). My friend continued to drive the Valiant for many more miles until it was t-boned by a 4-wheeler (and later scrapped, crushed, sent to Japan and made into Toyota bumpers).
I always think how US automakers struggle and yet they had some good cars. OK so these some of these are not chick magnets but there are more effective ways to get laid. As far as loading up vehicles with electronic gadgets, should I say previous /. article on The Future of Hi-Tech Auto Theft?
FYI, in California it is illegal to work a laptop in front seat while driving. Someone mentioned he has his laptop mounted on one of those stands like in police cars, he isn't bothered about it as they think he must work for the government.
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BRB, just got hit by a car.
It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
We need fully automated driving, so the vehicle occupant can concentrate on their web surfing, TV watching, game playing, and communications tasks. Really. Automated driving is already probably better than the bottom 20% of drivers, the ones who have most of the accidents.
It should be mandatory that if a car has any "infomatics" stuff that requires user attention, beyond a map display and music player, it has to also have, as a minimum, anti-collision radar tied to the brakes. (Some high-end cars already have that, and the manufacturers are trying to get the cost down.)
How exactly will the system know if there are any open tables at a cafe? I don't know of any cafe's that publish this now, there might be a couple out there, but I don't think they all will add that job duty. Nor would they really want to; if there weren't any tables, you'd be basically telling potential customers to go away instead of stopping. Also, you'd be dealing with a lot of false reservations if you had a passenger that gestures a lot while talking.
And why would you need to make reservations from the car if you're already close enough to point at it?
It's not like people have anything else to do when driving.. Stop this shit, it only makes traffic more dangerous as it already is.. People are not able to use this kind of technology safely, that's just a given..
Sounds illegal but what the hell...give me augmented reality over real reality any day!
blindly antisocialist = antisocial
what may have been meant is how are cell phone providers going to use this to Frack Over folks that drive across/ to close to a border??
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Virus would be terrible, especially for those not focusing on driving... "Turn right fast!" and fall from a bridge... Also, viruses could mean GPS data being to 3rd parties, etc.
Reality #1) Population is exploding, especially in urban areas -- population density is increasing, and roads are not getting any better, in fact, they are getting worse.
Reality #2) There's no money to fix or improve roads, government spending is being cut like crazy, and on state and local levels, everyone is bankrupt, so there will be no improvements to roads or to public transit systems.
This will lead to greater and greater traffic snarls, especially during mass migration periods (i.e. Rush hour, holidays, weekends) -- so since you're going to be trapped in the car going noplace, burning up what little fuel we have left, your car is going to become your temporary "home" so it might as well have all the infotainment it can provide.
Those of us on Motorcycles/Scooters who try to avoid the great snarls of traffic by being on two-wheels will be mowed down by texting, virtual reality, and cafe-table reserving drivers, who won't even notice our bodies being ripped asunder, thanks to input from everything except the car itself....
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
Not to mention watching the porn ads from the stripper joint you're driving by,
Sometimes boldness is in fashion. Sometimes only the brave will be bold.
It's about time! I can't even remember how many times I've been driving somewhere, and I see a bridge, and think "Gee, I wonder when that bridge was built." I have to stop my car, look up my GPS coordinates on google maps, so I can see the bridge name, search for it on wikipedia. And then, I have to wade through all kinds of extra information before I finally find the construction date. (This is assuming wikipedia actually has an entry for the particular bridge I'm looking at!)
This new technology is going to be huge among people like myself who won't drive over a bridge until we know what year it was constructed in!
I'd rather glance at dashboard displays surrounding the windshield, so I don't have to move my head to see them through the steering wheel. If the car also had 360 cameras to drop the borders display to reveal anything detected traveling towards the car's cabin that the displays would block, the displays would only add to the safety. In fact such a feature would highlight moving risks, overall much safer than just the current windshield/dashboard config.
And put all driver controls on the steering wheel, showing on the windshield display when the fingers are close to them for totally head-forward use.
Oh, and make every car install as standard a Bluetooth adapter that overrides any phone's onboard mic/speaker, forcing all phones into speakerphones until switched back on the phone (presumably only by passengers).
The car should do whatever it can to ensure the only display the driver attends is the windshield.
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Don't make me think and/or speak to change the volume of my radio or the temp in my car. This stuff is best done with dedicated dials.
Use heads up displays to communicate lane departure warnings, collision warning, driver attention warnings, blind spot warnings, and adaptive cruise control feed back and all other tech that stays out of the way unless it is going to avoid an accident.
Speech recognition and/or touch input should be reserved for navigation sys, txt msg sending, and calls. Not car controls.
My God can beat up your God. Just kidding...don't take offense. I know there's no God.
Update PIPA/SOPA to allow us to disable the cars of anyone doing driveby downloading. Now!
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Think about Europe.
I can drive from France into Belgium, Holland, Luxemburg and then into Germany without stopping. They are all 'schengen countries'.
I'm sure they'll find a way to charge us for 4 different sets of roaming fees.
Thats why I drive! God knows what would happen if I fell asleep on public transportation. I'm hoping these car sharing services catch on here so I can have a fresh bed every day.
ps: "God" is used here as a figure of speech, not as an inflammatory gesture towards the fringes of the deity continuum. This postscript is meant as the inflammatory gesture to those humourless clowns.
Mass transit has been a world wide failure
keep such american bullshit in america.
100 million people are using mass transit comfortably and safely in japan. many more, in europe. in europe, the standards for mass transportation varies depending on country, but in japan, there is no such variance. fast trains are a feature of life there. even in germany, where 200 km/h heavy luxury cars and a culture of expensive highways are present, mass transportation is much more convenient as long as there is a mass transport reaching the destination you want.
dont pose shitty opinions as facts or statements next time. or, keep them in america. it is stupid to drive to a destination by going through all the hassles and effort instead of arriving there by swinging your arms about as if in your back garden with a mass transport vehicle. it is you americans' fault that you let mass transportation to be neglected, and your metros, undergrounds have became hellholes of crime and shit. and dont even get me started on amtrak.
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Wouldn't it be better if you said 'Car. read me the manual to the vehicle' and it started doing so? That's the kind of stuff they are talking about.
As for ads you have to read? won't happen in any car that needs a driver, and you will be able to turn it off.
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I've already been hit by one driver who was talking on a cell phone.
The very next time, we're holding court RIGHT FUCKING THERE in the street.
...we don't need an interactive HUD to tell people they're following too damn close. Simple sonar or laser-based detector to measure your following distance and a nice, loud, annoying buzzer would do the trick. Might have to write my congressdude.
Never let a lack of data get in the way of a good rant.
How will this ever work in the EU? You're not allowed to talk in the phone, somewhere not even into a hands free.
So how would something as distracting as an heads up display cluttered with information, that you need to wave to get access to, be able to stay legal?
If you take my lovely country Sweden as an example. Our Transport Agency has a goal of zero accidents. Which is impossible as long as you let a human drive the car. Now how would something as distracting as apps be able to stay legal under thees circumstantial? Sure maybe if the car manufacturers had the same lobbying power as the film and music industry. But would that really work in the long run as the death rate goes up, since people just can't keep there hands of cool new gadgets?
I'm just speculating but the TL;DR is that i don't think it would be able to stay legal, while driving, in the long run.
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