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Mini Mammoth Once Roamed Crete

ananyo writes "Scientists can now add a 'dwarf mammoth' to the list of biological oxymorons that includes the jumbo shrimp and pygmy whale. Studies of fossils discovered last year on the island of Crete in the Mediterranean Sea reveal that an extinct species once thought to be a diminutive elephant was actually the smallest mammoth known to have existed — which, as an adult, stood no taller than a modern newborn elephant (abstract). The species is the most extreme example of insular dwarfism yet found in mammoths."

50 comments

  1. Cyclops myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought this has been known for a while, and is the origin of the myth of the cyclops?

    1. Re:Cyclops myth by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      I thought this has been known for a while, and is the origin of the myth of the cyclops?

      The fossil specimens aren't newly discovered; but there was apparently some phylogenetic wrangling about whether they were mammoths or elephants and there weren't enough specimens to get a good size estimate.

      The present discovery is that the remains show distinctively mammoth characteristics and that there are enough of them to infer size.

    2. Re:Cyclops myth by catmistake · · Score: 1

      I thought this has been known for a while, and is the origin of the myth of the cyclops?

      You're thinking of the one eyed fossils of larger variety of pachyderm found there.

      Similarly, I'm wondering if these fossils are the origin of the legends of the Minitaur.

  2. Let's clone em! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want a mini mammoth almost as much as I want a direwolf.

  3. Jurassic Park by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why couldn't they have recreated a herd of these guys instead of raptors?
    Think 'Petting Zoo' instead of 'dying a horrible death'

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    1. Re:Jurassic Park by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why couldn't they have recreated a herd of these guys instead of raptors?
      Think 'Petting Zoo' instead of 'dying a horrible death'

      Worst movie ever.

    2. Re:Jurassic Park by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I become a rich billionaire, I'm cloning up a whole bunch of these things. Then I will travel with them through mini-mountains and attack small Italians with tiny weapons. Cutest invasion, ever!

    3. Re:Jurassic Park by DaMattster · · Score: 1

      Why couldn't they have recreated a herd of these guys instead of raptors? Think 'Petting Zoo' instead of 'dying a horrible death'

      Well, it would make for a rather boring book and the movie would flop fairly miserably. LOL!

    4. Re:Jurassic Park by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Put Kate Upton as the love interest?

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    5. Re:Jurassic Park by fishybell · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...and we will call you Hannibabar!

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    6. Re:Jurassic Park by jonnythan · · Score: 1

      In the book, Hammond used to have a tiny cat-sized elephant he liked to show off.

    7. Re:Jurassic Park by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know this... it's minix !

    8. Re:Jurassic Park by crazyjj · · Score: 1

      Forget a zoo, I want one for my home. I'm putting it right next to my miniature pony for the cutest backyard pen ever!

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    9. Re:Jurassic Park by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      Because they didn't exist in the Jurassic [dinosaur] era? Besides, while there is (and has been for a long time) a great deal of fascination with the dinosaurs, for the megafauna of later eras... not so much.

    10. Re:Jurassic Park by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      they did that. those tiny long-snouts were dangerous when panicked, just like elephants when they stampede! When they stomped on people's toes, it really, really hurt!

  4. Re:you know you thought the same thing... by LMacG · · Score: 4, Funny

    If only that had been mentioned in the summary!

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  5. It's not Mini, it's my mammoth by AshFan · · Score: 1

    It's not often that an article comes along, and tempts me to rename one of my body parts.

  6. Yum by busyqth · · Score: 1

    A mini mammoth makes for a mighty fine steak.

  7. So the Mimmoths are real! by tetromino · · Score: 4, Funny
    1. Re:So the Mimmoths are real! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      For those who may not be familiar with Girl Genius

      ...so was anyone else expecting the OP to be making a sexist joke about what the phrases "girl genius" and "mini mammoth" have in common?

  8. Re:you know you thought the same thing... by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 1

    Ehem, get the film rights! "Mini Mammoth vs. Jumbo Shrimp - The Epic Battle of the Geologic Ages!". Pretty please, before Michael Bay gets em?

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  9. Forgotten: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Miniature Giant Space Hamsters.... poor Boo, outdone by a hairy elephant.

    1. Re:Forgotten: by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Yes Boo, I agree. This group could do with a swift kick in the morals.

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  10. In other news... by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

    In other news, the date of the invention of the slider has just been pushed back 18,000 years.

  11. Mm, a delicious treat! by danaris · · Score: 1

    Mimmoth on a stick, anyone?

    Dan Aris

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  12. Re:you know you thought the same thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And he missed the most exciting proposition:

    The Petite Lap Giraffe may one day be a reality!

  13. Re:you know you thought the same thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SyFy might pick that up.

  14. Prior Art by LMacG · · Score: 2

    Check out Wilma Flintstone's vacuum cleaner.

    Or perhaps Bedrock was located on Crete?

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    1. Re:Prior Art by crazyjj · · Score: 1

      It's a living.

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  15. Re:you know you thought the same thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An upcoming Ubuntu codename ?

  16. How does it taste? by crazyjj · · Score: 1

    Because if it's as good as baby elephant, count me in!

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    1. Re:How does it taste? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mmm, mammoth veal.

  17. Flinstone's White-Castle order scenario... by davidwr · · Score: 1

    "I'll have a 6-pack of mini mammoth burgers"

    "Would that be the 6-pack of mini mammoth-burgers or the mini-mammoth burgers?"

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    1. Re:Flinstone's White-Castle order scenario... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      6*9=54

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  18. Not exactly a new oxymoron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We've known about Pygmy Mammoths on California's Channel Islands for ages. (Though it does sound like the species on Crete were even smaller.)

  19. Re:Contradition in terms? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -1 Redundant

    You mean an oxymoron? The same thing that is already mentioned in the summary?

  20. Re:Contradition in terms? by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 1

    2 mod points left. Do I point out that you're an idiot for confusing the adjective with the noun? Or do I mod you into oblivion?

    Or do I mod you, and wait till tomorrow and comment if no one else has, potentially removing my downmod? Decisions...

  21. Re:you know you thought the same thing... by Thud457 · · Score: 1
    awww man , in my haste to be first in with the objoke, I missed it in the summary!

    What I should have said is

    is that like the pygmy whale?

    !

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  22. Myth? by bhcompy · · Score: 1

    So, perhaps this is some sort of basis for the minotaur myth? Sure, it's not a bull, but a baby hairy elephant with tusks isn't that far off. Slap on a few thousand years of the game of telephone and you have the minotaur

    1. Re:Myth? by MPolo · · Score: 1

      Many think that it's the origin of the cyclops myth. The skulls of these mammoths (once thought elephants) have very small eye sockets and a giant trunk socket. One could easily imagine that it is the skull of a giant with one big eye.

  23. aspberger's bait: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Q: Why can't programmers tell the difference between New Years and Halloween?

    A: Because DEC25 = HEX31

    1. Re:aspberger's bait: by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

      lol anti-intellectualism

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  24. Re:you know you thought the same thing... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

    I believe these are known as Mimmoths.

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  25. Re:Contradition in terms? by rHBa · · Score: 2

    Exactly, although I'd have to take exception to pygmy whale being described as an oxymoron. Although whales are generally very large the word 'whale' doesn't mean 'large'.

    IMO even jumbo shrimp is debatable, shrimp has come to mean small/diminutive but that is derived from the name of the creature and doesn't mean small in and of itself*, where as mammoth actually meant large before it was applied to an animal.

    * I'm actually guessing on that one, if I'm wrong I'm sure someone will correct me.

  26. Re:Contradition in terms? by Savantissimo · · Score: 1

    "some pedantic slashdotter is actually going to reply to this after finding some reference to something that could arguably be a "square triangle" just to prove me wrong. "

    Well, this is Slashdot, we're here for all your pedantry needs. Unfortunately the best I can do for you is a three-sided figure with internal angles adding up to 360 degrees, just like a square, or an equilateral four-sided figure with internal angles adding up to 180 degrees, just like a triangle. (Spherical and hyperbolic special cases respectively.).

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  27. Re:Contradition in terms? by Patch86 · · Score: 2

    OK, I'll play pedant with you.

    The word "mammoth" does not come from any word for "large". It comes from the name "earth horn" in Mansi (so says Wikipedia). The fact that we now use the word "mammoth" to mean "large" is by analogy with the animal. As in "that's one elephant-sized headache I've got today".

    Mammoths aren't actually any larger than regular African Elephants (which admittedly is pretty darned large).