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Social Networks, Suicide and Statistics
mikejuk writes "The data that is available in social networks is often used to detect the opinion of the crowd — but can it reveal the state of mind of the individual. New research suggests that some simple but non-obvious characteristics of social network use are related to suicide. Data mining is usually about determining things of economic advantage, but in this case, suicide we have a personal loss and an economic one. A new paper by a group of Japanese researchers Naoki Masuda, Issei Kurahashi and Hiroko Onari claims to have found ways of detecting suicidal tendencies — or at least the tendency to think about suicide, so-called 'suicide ideation.' The study used the Japanese social network mixi, which has over 27 million members and allows users to join any of over 4.5 million topic groups — some focusing on the subject of suicide. This provided a study and control group to compare. The most interesting finding is that while users in the suicide group had lots of friends, they didn't have as many transitive relationships i.e. where A friends B friends C friends A. This suggests that it isn't lack of friends but a lack of tight social groupings that is a factor. The same technique could be used to investigate similar problems such as depression and alcohol abuse."
the most interesting finding is that while users in the suicide group had lots of friends, they didn't have as many transitive relationships i.e. where A friends B friends C friends A. This suggests that it isn't lack of friends but a lack of tight social groupings that is a factor.
- or it could be just that these people are mostly unknown to each other in the real life.
You can't handle the truth.
When the foot seeks the place of the head, the line is crossed. Know your place. Keep your place. Be a shoe.
i already have a day picked out. i have been thinking about offing myself for a really long time. i figured i better have a day so that i can get everything finished before then. the day looks far away, but i will do it sometime before. i guess you could call it my deadline. haha. been wanting to off myself since 3rd grade. just too scared to do it. 39 years old now. i see myself as a waste of resources. i consume valuable oxygen that someone deserves more. i consume crude oil. we all know how valuable it is. back to the fact - i hate me. i hate everything about me. i hate myself for feeling this way.
... Go out with an audience..? The goal of every suicide is to make the world pay.
"but in this case, suicide we have a personal loss and an economic one"
what's the economic loss? could that be the reason for the suicide? Realizing you are a cog in the machine keeping it going, a battery in the matrix, where there is no more hope but to get used up, and when they are done with you you get thrown out for another?
That's how it feels in the US too. You can't fight back, that would be well, suicide. It's a double edged sword, you want to change the way and you protest, you get your head slammed to the ground, or you just give up and commit suicide. Keep going it's what 70 or so years as a slave to the machine?
Where's the control group of people who abstain from social networks?
Did they just outlaw introversion? We see you don't have the required number of friends. Please report to the nearest reeducation center immediately.
preventing the society from deleveraging and restructuring the debts
Now that's an interesting idea: without government stepping in and telling people "sorry, you get pennies on the dollar", how could bankruptcy work? Japan refused to permit the banks that had completely sunk themselves in their real estate crash years ago to go bankrupt, essentially turning them and their employees into debt slaves, working day in and day out for proceeds they'll never see.
Seriously. None of it is needed or even desireable. It's like overdosing on TMZ, Entertainment Tonight, Hollywood Insider, and a bajillion other "social" networking concepts - which are all desigend to make people think they are clebrities.
Fuck them all.
the economic stagnation that the Japanese government is literally pushing upon the people
Fascinating. They're using bulldozers, I take it? Fool.
Probably got a buffer overflow.
Oh, and by the way, the economic stagnation that the Japanese government is literally pushing upon the people by high level of government created inflatio
WTF are you smoking? http://www.indexmundi.com/japan/inflation_rate_(consumer_prices).html - Japanese inflation has been ZERO OR NEGATIVE for the 9 years of the last 12 years. Current inflation is ZERO.
Lack of (real life) social support makes you more vulnerable to suicide?
Oh wow! That is ground breaking research!
Modern "science", discovering what everybody else already knows
Zero based on the price of certain manufactured, imported products that the government chooses to measure. But printing more money doesn't necessarily raise all prices even while it's destroying people's standard of living.
Zero based on the price of certain manufactured, imported products that the government chooses to measure.
Wrong. Japan has its own analog of the The Billion Prices Project. It shows essentially the same data - zero inflation or deflation for more than 10 years now.
Besides, even the classic economic theory (i.e. Austrian economics) insists that inflation can't stay confined to a single area.
But printing more money doesn't necessarily raise all prices even while it's destroying people's standard of living.
How? Really, do you actually have any model that rationally explains how it is "destroying people's standard of living"? Can your model give predictions?
Exactly like Freddy and Fanny then. Except taxpayers are on the hook for loses and they refuse audits.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Inflation is huge in Japan, it prevents the prices from dropping further, it prevents companies from shutting down and it prevents unproductively used malinvested capital from being freed up and restructured.
You can't handle the truth.
Dude. You're simply delusional. Inflation is LESS THAN ZERO in Japan.
That means that prices ARE ACTUALLY FALLING. I repeat, prices are actually falling.
Which often aren't tight at all. All it means that you know many of the same people. It doesn't mean you are close to any of them.
The "non-triangular" connections may actually be more important since they represent interest in the specific individual.
I would be curious about non-reciprocal links, if the social network supports the concept.
interesting, so
- before social media it was established that suicide risk groups consisted of individuAls that did not have enough social contacts that could intervene
- with social media it is now established that these same people tend to group themselves insocial media groups that as group doesnt tend to have much social interaction with other groups
"we now present evidence thatwhen putting waterdrops in a pool, that both waterdrops and the pool as collective entity seems to follow the same behaviour"
Inflation is huge in Japan, inflation is money printing, price change is only a consequence of inflation. Dude.
In Japan the government is preventing prices from falling further, it's preventing the restructuring with all the money printing, which is what inflation is. Given all of the productivity and the recession in Japan the prices must be falling much faster, in real terms Japan is going through deflation, which is what would have restructured the debts and would have shut down the failed companies.
The government is fighting this every day with huge amounts of money printing, which is what inflation is, I know that you don't understand a word of what this means, so never mind.
You can't handle the truth.
Yawn. Yeah that's great. Social network analytics reveal behaviors, specifically suicidal indicators in this case. When I see friends and relatives with great super fun, meaningful, adventure-filled lives with loving hallmark moments 24/7 I wanna kill myself too. I coulda been somebody. I coulda been a winnah. I coulda gotten laid so much more. Who has access to these analytics? Big GOV, lil GOV, and dumbfucks in HR do.
Inflation is huge in Japan, inflation is money printing, price change is only a consequence of inflation. Dude.
Let met quote the dictionary definition: "In economics, inflation is a rise in the general level of prices of goods and services in an economy over a period of time."
Now GTFO until you learn at least some basics of economics instead of dumb conspiracy goldbuggery crap.
It's nice to know that inflation is the only indicator of economic health, period. That vastly simplifies economics. You should get a nobel prize.
Let met quote the dictionary definition: "In economics, inflation is a rise in the general level of prices of goods and services in an economy over a period of time."
- yes, the dictionaries today have that incorrect definition, but the definitions were changed, so you should GTFO, the Orwell was only too right.
From the 19th century up to the Eleventh New Collegiate Dictionary, issued in 2003, Webster's defined inflation as money printing.
In 2003, the definition changed to "a continuing rise in the general price level," which is only "usually attributed" to an abundance of money.
You can't handle the truth.
I suspect you are replying to people who have in mind a definition that "inflation = increase of the money supply". Needless to say that this is a ridiculous definition to start from in modern days, since the size of the money supply is not a thing anybody cares about as a primary indicator; the only reasonable definition for inflation is via the price level. But old habits die hard, and the nuts who want the world to work differently are very vocal in this small corner of economics. Don't sweat it ;-)
Inflation, used in the economics realm, has always been about price levels. Since printing money doesn't necessarily mean shit to economics. Printed money could increase the money supply or could be replacing worn out bills. Any bill printed as a replacement has essentially no effect on the economy.
So.. saying inflation = printing money is about as useful to a discussion of economics as saying inflation = putting air in my tires.
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Be honest. Face the fear.
Hopefully someone will in fact help you find reasons to live.
used in the economics realm, has always been about price levels.
- nonsense.
Inflation has never been about prices themselves (until 2003 change in Webster dictionary), unless you are new to the whole human language thing, 'to inflate' never was 'to have rising prices'.
Prices rise and fall.
Inflation was always about expansion, in case of money it was expansion of monetary supply.
Deflation is also about monetary supply, not about falling prices.
As to your tires: they don't 'rise' or 'fall', they inflate or deflate, so your comparison there is quite apt (not that you'd know it).
You can't handle the truth.
Top of their list: Tom Anderson of Myspace. He created a social networking site for the sole purpose that it would force everyone to be his friend. However, in the end, he has 11,781,293 friends, but hasn't even met one of them in person.
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No it's not. GTFO.
Expansion in monetary supply is just that - expansion in monetary supply. It can lead to inflation (the general rise in prices) but it's not necessary.
Consider this scenario: US treasury mints 10 platinum coins, each of them worth 1 trillion dollars. Then buries them in a trench in Pacific Ocean. It's definitely a monetary expansion (there's 10 more trillions $ in the economy) but it won't cause inflation since the money is not in the circulation.