Twitter To Appeal Turning Over Protester's Messages
angry tapir writes "Twitter plans to appeal a ruling to turn over the once-public tweets of an Occupy Wall Street protester charged with disorderly conduct, a case the company says threatens the First Amendment rights of its users. A New York Criminal Court judge ruled last month that Twitter should turn over the tweets of Malcolm Harris, since his messages were public and are not the same as an email or a private chat, which would require a search warrant."
Imagine putting a sign on your front lawn. A month later you bring it inside your house. Since the sign was public, does that mean the police no longer need a warrant? If twitter loses this appeal, the answer to that question will be no. It is essentially saying anything made public can never be made private. Now, if someone took pictures of that sign on your lawn, that's another matter. So a snapshot of a public site would be fair game. So much so, I wonder if the police monitor tweets and store potentially interesting ones?
All of this for disorderly conduct? You have to be kidding me. There has to be some political motivation in these prosecutions. Disorderly conduct has to be the least severe of all criminal offenses. I can't imagine any DA wanting to waste a court's time trying to get subpoenas for it.
The Library of Congress is supposedly archiving all tweets. Curious what happens to these public-then-private tweets.
If there are only 2 people party to the conversation, the person posting the twitter and the person reading it, is it public then?
If an email is sent from one person to another, is it public then, so public that we skip the warrant.
Why are they trying to skip the warrant BTW, what's wrong with them justifying their demand by a warrant???
What if the email is to 50 people on a mailing list, is it then public and doesn't need a warrant to demand it?
Have they tried looking into the Wayback Machine to see if it's holding the tweets? It'd hard to imagine that they're not archived somewhere from when they were public. The only question is if they'd be admissible as evidence from a source like Wayback instead of the direct site itself.
Did you use to fart out of other people's asshole?
The comment may be public, but clearly his identity isn't, or they'd know it.
Commended for taking this stance. We should loudly complain when companies like Google and Facebook spit on our data rights but similarly warmly thank the companies that try to protect them. So, thanks Twitter, still prefer to use Statusnet on my own server but at least you're trying or your cunning marketing is working on me.
On a legal note, could it be argued that the user posts messages with a degree of privacy (albeit small) by the understanding they can retract tweets?
The government already has a copy.
http://blogs.loc.gov/loc/2010/04/how-tweet-it-is-library-acquires-entire-twitter-archive/
(Library of Congress)
If it really is public, why doesn't the lawyer download these messages himself? Duh. If they want an "expert" to do it, I'm available for US$2000/hr.
Seems that "public info" should mean "get it yourself" OR twitter can charge whatever fees they like to provide it - outragous fees would be a good idea.
If the data isn't available anymore, than it isn't "public" is it?
Usually there is some protection from being required to do research to provide information to a court. Having an item at hand and knowing that you have it at hand is one thing. Requiring a party to dig into databases and search for older messages costs money and may not be within the power of the courts without providing compensation for the work done. When any officer is under oath for such a petty communication it would be true normally to reply that he does not know if the material exists. Imagine ordering someone to go through all communications on Twitter and determine if a certain individual sent a message. One never knows how many identities one might use on that kind of social site and many people use net cafes or libraries or their friends computers. To testify that one has diligently researched for messages is a bit absurd in a way as it simply really can not be properly done.