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US IPv6 Usage Grows To 3 Million Users
darthcamaro writes "There is a myth that IPv6 is only for those in Asia, but that's not true. According to new data discussed this week at an IETF conference, there are more IPv6 users in the U.S. than anywhere else in the world — coming in at 3 million. From the article: 'George Michaelson, senior R&D scientist at APNIC (Asia Pacific Network Information Centre) has a reasonable idea of what the current levels are globally for IPv6 adoption, thanks to some statistical research he has been doing. In his view, IPv6 is now a reality in terms of adoption. "I think you're used to us standing up and saying 'woe is me, woe is me, v6 isn't happening,'" George Michaelson, senior R&D scientist at APNIC (Asia Pacific Network Information Centre) said. "But it is actually happening, these are not trivial numbers of people that are now using IPv6 on a routine basis."'"
As of June 2012, I noticed I had an IPV6 IP address. The MAC address of my wireless card was used in the actual IPV6 address itself. However, I am not sure what I can really do with this. The IPV6 address is more cumbersome to remember. Can I reasonably expect any tangible benefits as a guy who doesn't really do much IT related activities (i.e. web surfing, email, etc.)?
Slashdot has no IPv6. Boo, hiss. Some nerd website you are.
host www.slashdot.org
www.slashdot.org has address 216.34.181.48
A large portion of the 3 million are probably Verizon 4G devices.
We had to upgrade one of the software packages we use solely because it logs IP addresses of web site visitors and it was crashing every time someone visited from a Verizon 4G smartphone.
Virgin mobile is sprint. if phones are getting them then 3M would seem very low.
I did this analysis of the Alexa Top 1 million before World IPv6 day.
* 1.1% of sites in the top 1 million had AAAA records
* Only 4 of the top 50 tech companies websites were IPv6 capable
http://hackertarget.com/ipv6-in-top-sites-infographic/
Post World IPv6 day version to be released soon.
In a planet with over seven billion people, that is not even 0.01%
I've never heard this "Asia myth" and I find it hard to understand why anybody thinks IPv6 is not for the Gweilo. Because lots of Asians are signing on and all the big address blocks are taken? First off, IP address depletion is a problem everywhere and it doesn't make sense for Western ISPs to wait until the last minute to switch over. Though I guess many Asian ISP startups have decided it makes sense to leapfrog over IPv4.
The second point is that IPv6 isn't just about a bigger address space. That's certainly the most urgent, but IPv6 has many other features we need: better security, more efficient routing, more efficient use of mobile networks, etc.
3 million IPv6 switchers (0.1% of the 4 billion+ available IPv4 addresses) is a meaningful number? Please wake me up when it's a few dozen millions.
On a side hote, does anyone know how many IP addresses major US IT firms and carriers manage combined? Isn't that more than 3 million IP addresses between them?
Three million people in the USA on IPv6 doesn't sounds like a reason to celebration. With a total population of over 300 million that means less than 1% has moved over to IPv6.
The goggles, they don't work
Well that was interesting. I loaded this page and started reading. As I mused about how I probably can't get IPv6 with my AT&T DSL (modem doesn't seem to support it), the the doorbell rang. It was an AT&T rep pushing their fiber-optic package.
Apparently I can't get Internet-only fiber service; I'd need to pay for phone or TV as well. :-(
So far IPv6 is just for early adopters and those who can't get an IPv4 address. Read my message: "In less than 1 year, people will be talking about IPv6 and 'to boldly go where millions of others have gone before'".
Well as long as we are doing an IPv6 story. Anyone have any good gossip and / or confirmed information about when Verizon is moving Fios or any plans or...?
Dont confuse allocation with utilization. They may have almost allocated the entire address space, but almost all of it stands unused. Most ISPs have better than a 5:1 ratio of free ip's. There are universities who have millions of ip's allocated and use literally a handful on the actual Internet.
As ips actually become rare, they will cost more and people will make the change on an economic basis, just as they do for any scarce resource. We are decades away from the majority of the Internet being ipv6. Most adoptions currently are for ideological reasons.
The goggles, they do nothing. Damn troll.
The real power of IPv6 is that it allows us to eliminate NAT. Because of the size of the IPv6 address pool, every mobile device can have a publicly routable address and thus function as a server.
Facebook was originally developed and hosted in a college dorm room. With IPv6, the next "big thing" could be developed and hosted in someone's pocket.
We (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/) turned on IPv6 for World IPv6 Day and I'm quite surprised by how much IPv6 traffic we see:
awk '{print $1}' access-2012-08-01 | grep -c ':'
1298
awk '{print $1}' access-2012-08-01 | grep -v -c ':'
16192
That's about 8% of the hits on our site, which is about eight times what I expected.
Ah, it's not all roses. A lot of the IPv6 hits are things like this:
2403:1400:1:2:8185:895b:7f27:4318 - - [01/Aug/2012:14:00:30 -0400] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 9763 "-" "OpenNMS PageSequenceMonitor (Service name: HTTP-v6)"
2001:8a0:2106:ff:213:13:29:205 - - [31/Jul/2012:15:20:37 -0400] "HEAD / HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" "curl/7.18.2 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.18.2 OpenSSL/0.9.8g zlib/1.2.3.3 libidn/1.8 libssh2/0.18"
The number of "real" IPv6 hits seems depressingly low.
Nearly every phone is running IPv6 already. Do an 'adb shell ifconfig' or 'adb shell netstat' on an android phone and you'll see some IPv6 addresses pop up. (Actually I'm not sure about iPhone, I'll check it tomorrow when I get to work).
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
We recently had to move a client over to IPv6 faster than intended because we couldn't get a block of clean IPv4 static addresses from the ISP. That problem is only going to get worse over time.
Occasionally living proof of the Ballmer peak.
Widespread acceptance of NAT subverts the egalitarian premise of the internet, that all nodes are created equal, and promotes a two-tier system: providers and consumers.
"There is a myth that IPv6 is only for those in Asia" I have NEVER heard of such a myth. The myth that I have heard of is "IPv6 is only for those who wants to with certainty point out that a specific package came from your toaster"... Wait! that is not a myth. That is IPv6 main reason for existence (now that we have NAT)
According to new data discussed this week at an IETF conference, there are more IPv6 users in the U.S than anywhere else in the world
Ooh, aah. What does that mean, then? In case anyone hadn't noticed, the U.S. is pretty big among countries. From the more useful article:
PNIC's global survey as of August 1st has IPv6 penetration in the U.S at 1.35 percent.
Romania currently tops the APNIC list at 8.73 percent
So yeah, go America. You're only doing 6.5x worse than Romania on this one.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
Hmmm, and you don't get those on IPv4 too? I'd be surprised if you didn't. Just because you don't find value in those hits does not mean that those are not "real" too.
One of the biggest French DSL provider, Free Telecom, has IPv6 by default and there are more than 5 millions users here. I don't see how the article's premise could be true.
The Wise adapts himself to the world. The Fool adapts the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the Fool.
I thought that was something that multicast DNS with DNS-based service discovery was supposed to solve.
I've been running IPv6 using a Hurricane Electric tunnel (and OpenWRT on my router).
The PITA for IPv6 is it makes it cumbersome to troubleshoot routing issues. Since IPv4 only gives one address to an interface and they are short numbers, it's rather easy to insure that you are routing correctly after a week or two in an environment. Since this hasn't been brought up, I'm going to assume noone commenting thus far has had to troubleshoot network path issues. You don't give names to router interfaces, uplink ports, ect.
So, when I route through multiple networks in different IP networks, IPv6 is going to take a climb up a learning curve that most network geeks are not exactly looking forward to. I'll manage, as I know the benefits. Just like the old Windows guys are probably not looking forward to the more PowerShell centric management that they are moving to. But god help me if I don't run for the calculator and spreadsheet everytime I need to try to break off a subnet in v6.