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The Oatmeal Begins a Fundraiser for a Nikola Tesla Museum

Quince alPillan writes "The Oatmeal's Matthew Inman is once again collecting money for a good cause. This time, he's collecting money for the Tesla Science Center at Wardenclyffe to purchase the original location of the Wardenclyffe Tower in Shoreham, New York so that it can be rebuilt into a Tesla Museum. The fundraiser, titled Let's Build a Goddamn Tesla Museum has already started."

134 comments

  1. So... by Mitreya · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... who's going to start a kickstarter project to build an Edison museum across from the Tesla one?

    1. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just wait a few years and slap Edison's name over top of Tesla's.

    2. Re:So... by GammaKitsune · · Score: 4, Funny

      I wish there were some way to mod you "Funny, but Mostly Sad".

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    3. Re:So... by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      Only counts if you hire bully boys to kidnap dogs and cats, and electrocute them with AC current in front of Tesla's museum.

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    4. Re:So... by MiniMike · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't the Edison museum just take the money from the Tesla museum fundraiser?

    5. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hijacking this comment because it's dumb and what I have to say is more important.

      I won't give any money to the Oatmeal since last time they let an asshole lawyer block the fundraiser.

      The lawyer tried to block the fundraiser, but it still proceeded as planned

      http://theoatmeal.com/blog/charity_money

    6. Re:So... by ThePeices · · Score: 0

      I'm going to start a Kickstarter to BUY this, then bulldozer it over, and build the Edison museum.

      The Edison Museum: Because the oatmeal sucks. Seriously, fuck that guy.

      Thomas? is that you?

    7. Re:So... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      The Thomas Edison corporate douche exhibit were paying for other people's inventions means that you can publicly pretend to have invented them, woo hoo. That can add all the other great patent douche's that came there after to the exhibit, with Apple as the A number 1, patent douche of all time ;D. Seriously if you invented put your name on the patent app, if you didn't don't be a dick and put it there to feed your ego, it's really lame.

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    8. Re:So... by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the elephant!

    9. Re:So... by cffrost · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I wish there were some way to mod you "Funny, but Mostly Sad".

      That's one of the uses for Insightful.

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    10. Re:So... by cffrost · · Score: 1

      Because the oatmeal sucks. Seriously, fuck that guy.

      Fuck this guy?

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    11. Re:So... by mcvos · · Score: 2

      Are you blaming the Oatmeal for what some other idiot did? The Oatmeal's fundraiser worked out fine. It's the idiot you should be boycotting.

    12. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Er wut? Obviously you didn't follow that story but formed a passionate opinion on it?

      Let me guess, you are American.

    13. Re:So... by JosKarith · · Score: 2

      Still pissed about that picture of your mom trying to seduce a bear huh?

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  2. Totally in by medcalf · · Score: 5, Funny

    But they have to build his death ray

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    1. Re:Totally in by pegasustonans · · Score: 5, Funny

      But they have to build his death ray

      I'd prefer cloning him, and then having the clone build it. As long as we're building a B-movie death ray, we might as well have a B-movie story to go along with it.

      After we're done with him, we can have the clone battle an Edison robot, and my life will be complete.

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    2. Re:Totally in by t4ng* · · Score: 2

      I saw a conspiracy theory book that claimed he succeeded in building his death ray and that's what the Tunguska explosion really was. It further claimed that Tesla had done it as a publicity gimmick intending to aim it at the North Pole and blow it up right before Admiral Peary could reach the North Pole, but his aim was off!!!

      It then went on to claim that Tesla did not die, but instead was living inside the "face pyramid" on Mars with Marconi!!!!

      Wow.

    3. Re:Totally in by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      I saw a conspiracy theory book that claimed he succeeded in building his death ray and that's what the Tunguska explosion really was. It further claimed that Tesla had done it as a publicity gimmick intending to aim it at the North Pole and blow it up right before Admiral Peary could reach the North Pole, but his aim was off!!!

      It then went on to claim that Tesla did not die, but instead was living inside the "face pyramid" on Mars with Marconi!!!!

      Wow.

      conspiracy theories are pretty fun, aren't they?

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    1. Re:Buy cheap Viagra? by Dyinobal · · Score: 5, Funny

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    2. Re:Buy cheap Viagra? by jxander · · Score: 4, Funny

      At this point, I was certain that most "nerd-centric" sites were of a similar mindset, and spammed up their pages to keep the Luddites out.

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    3. Re:Buy cheap Viagra? by D+H+NG · · Score: 1

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    4. Re:Buy cheap Viagra? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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      R-tard.

    5. Re:Buy cheap Viagra? by GuNgA-DiN · · Score: 2

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    6. Re:Buy cheap Viagra? by MagusSlurpy · · Score: 1

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    7. Re:Buy cheap Viagra? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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      Dipshit.

    8. Re:Buy cheap Viagra? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  4. Westinghouse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    George Westinghouse was the one who lied to Tesla to get him to fork over his share of the company for peanuts.

    I want the museam to be made to look like a middle finger with a plaque that says "Up Yours George!"

    1. Re:Westinghouse by s.petry · · Score: 5, Informative

      Tesla was not only fucked by Westinghouse, but many others. The PR campaign by Edison is the worst, but JP Morgan pulling his project money since JP could not restrict access to make lots more money, and of course Westinghouse robbing him of personal wealth.

      Greed has screwed us all, and continues to do so today.

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    2. Re:Westinghouse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Tesla was not only fucked by Westinghouse, but many others. The PR campaign by Edison is the worst, but JP Morgan pulling his project money since JP could not restrict access to make lots more money, and of course Westinghouse robbing him of personal wealth.

      Greed has screwed us all, and continues to do so today.

      Except greed is why Westinghouse, Edison and JP Morgan had any money to invest in Tesla to begin with.

      Without greed W, E and JP would have been subsistence farmers and Tesla would have been that crazy old man in the shack in the woods everyone stayed away from.

    3. Re:Westinghouse by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 1

      Not Necessarily true -- Tesla knowingly and intentionally mislead JP Morgan as to his real intentions and knew that even if successful, Morgan would never realize an ROI. Frankly Tesla was a major dick for pulling that stunt and is lucky to only have suffered the revocation of his funding.

    4. Re:Westinghouse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you know this to be true HOW?

      Were you there? No?

      Shut the hell up, then.

    5. Re:Westinghouse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's actually pretty well documented. Go to your library and get some books on Tesla.

    6. Re:Westinghouse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't really true. You need to cite this other than the typical they are rich therefore they are evil and greedy this site likes to spew. I think Westinghouse was nearly broke when Tesla gave him the 3phase stuff, because he was investing in Tesla when NO one else would. I'm not 100% its been a while.

      JP on the other hand was evil. Tesla wanted to send the electricity over the airwaves and he didn't want that since he could not meter it, lol Imagine what the green nuts would say about doing so today.

    7. Re:Westinghouse by s.petry · · Score: 1

      History is written by those that win wars, Tesla died in poverty with nothing. Guess who won and who wrote those books?

      Interestingly, the other half of the story remains. It's easy to say "Conspiracy theory" but think harder. Look at what Edison did in PR stunts, is it really and truly only a conspiracy?

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    8. Re:Westinghouse by CityZen · · Score: 1

      Like everything, it's a matter of balance: greed vs. ethics.

      Problem is, one tends to dominate the other.

    9. Re:Westinghouse by SolitaryMan · · Score: 1

      Which does not mean that everything in those books is a lie. Or that everything in "new" Tesla books is true.

      Just remember that there *is* another side of his story. Tesla *was* trying to run a business and he *was* filing a bunch of patents. He was not your Henry Cavendish, who just did the research and didn't care about money and fame and who, I would argue is much more under appreciated that Tesla.

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  5. No Turing phase for tesla? by ryzvonusef · · Score: 4, Informative

    More Info here :p
    http://plus.google.com/blergasdf1234thimbleturdorgasm99meatpoopypoopxv9donkeypie

    But seriously, in this era of re-discovering and correctly honouring scientists for their hard-work and genius (like Alan Turing is now rightly getting, for example) why is Tesla still languishing? I mean, either, way, it was god-damn American* guy who made the light bulb, who cares which one it was? I think the US govt should buck up and admit they dun goofed, just like the Uk govt did with Turing.

    *Wikipedia says he was an american citizen

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    1. Re:No Turing phase for tesla? by pegasustonans · · Score: 2

      But seriously, in this era of re-discovering and correctly honouring scientists for their hard-work and genius (like Alan Turing is now rightly getting, for example) why is Tesla still languishing?

      At the risk of sounding somewhat sweeping in my exemplary generalization:

      Tesla is lauded in good measure wheresoever geeks may chance upon others of their kind.

      Is this not enough to warm the rotting cockles of Mr. T's decaying corporeal matter?

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    2. Re:No Turing phase for tesla? by crgrace · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Langushing? Come on. He was played by David Bowie in a movie, and the coolest car company around is named Telsa.

      Tesla has a lot more name recognition in the general public (and certainly among technical people) than scientists such as Shannon, Nyquist, and von Neumann who arguably did at least as much to usher in the modern world than Tesla.

    3. Re:No Turing phase for tesla? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Er, the UK government chemically castrated Alan Turing. Did the US do similar to Tesla? If not, then what the heck does the US government have to admit to?

    4. Re:No Turing phase for tesla? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      I think the US govt should buck up and admit they dun goofed, just like the Uk govt did with Turing.

      That will happen when it's politically advantageous. If you can get 1 million people voting in Ohio for the guy who favors Tesla, then you will have both candidates falling over themselves to say something nice about Tesla.

      (Then saying how evil the other party was for what happened, and that if there were more/less regulation it wouldn't have happened, and if there were more/less judicial oversight/activism it wouldn't have happened, and if only we'd taxed more/less it wouldn't have happened).

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    5. Re:No Turing phase for tesla? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one ever ignored Turing. Furthermore, his death was politicized from the get-go, first by the government (see? homosexuality and other degenerate lifestyles lead to tragic suicide) and then by gay advocacy pressure groups (the evil government drove him to suicide), when there was never any real indication that he intentionally poisoned himself to begin with. He was fucking around with chemicals in his basement without following any kind of safety procedures.

      As for Tesla, the unit of magnetic flux density is named after him. Now, he was clearly the best electrical engineer of all time, and deserves more attention than the businessman Edison, but he's not exactly ignored.

    6. Re:No Turing phase for tesla? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quoth any non-geek who hasn't seen Sanctuary: "Who?"
      Quoth any non-geek who has: "You mean that vampire guy?"

      Now re: Edison

      Quoth any five year old: He invented the lightbulb!

    7. Re:No Turing phase for tesla? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let us not forget the namesake band.

      Oh that's right: long-haired freaky people need not apply.

    8. Re:No Turing phase for tesla? by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Is this not enough to warm the rotting cockles of Mr. T's decaying corporeal matter?

      For anyone else who was confused, BA Baracus/Clubber Lane/ Mr. "I pity the fool" T is still alive. Pegasustonans was talking about Tesla here.

    9. Re:No Turing phase for tesla? by adisakp · · Score: 1

      But seriously, in this era of re-discovering and correctly honouring scientists for their hard-work and genius why is Tesla still languishing?

      Maybe this American home-school textbook can explain why Tesla isn't appreciated.

    10. Re:No Turing phase for tesla? by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      But seriously, in this era of re-discovering and correctly honouring scientists for their hard-work and genius (like Alan Turing is now rightly getting, for example) why is Tesla still languishing?

      No, Alan Turing has been overhyped for nearly thirty years, and the same goes for Tesla.

    11. Re:No Turing phase for tesla? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention the SI unit for magnetic field strength. I don't recall ever having to do dimensional analysis involving "Edisons".

  6. AWESOME. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    But, what the fuck is "the oatmeal"?

    1. Re:AWESOME. by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 0

      A terribly unfunny web comic.

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    2. Re:AWESOME. by xSander · · Score: 1

      A terribly unfunny web comic.

      Really? You must not like cynicism. Either that or the topics he usually posts about.

    3. Re:AWESOME. by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 1

      I just don't think his stuff is funny. I don't mind cynicism, if it's funny. The Oatmeal seems to me like the latest in a series of unfunny webcomics that get popular simply because they make jokes about certain subjects (science, video games, etc) without actually being humorous. It's like the web equivalent of "The Big Bang Theory".

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  7. good marketing by crgrace · · Score: 1, Informative

    This Oatmeal guy sure is milking his Tesla fetish and the Forbes "controversy" for all it's worth. Good for him.

  8. Money goes straight to foundation... by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Oatmeal is not getting any money from this kickstarter (not really a kickstarter but you know what I mean).

    I really get way more of a sense, that he's on a real mission here regardless of what it does for income.

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    1. Re:Money goes straight to foundation... by crgrace · · Score: 1

      No he may not be getting any money directly, but he's getting attention, which is worth its weight in gold (and page views). He's on the front page of Slashdot AGAIN, as well as Forbes, etc. Maybe he is on a "real mission", but if so, why would he say "Goddamned Museum"? That sounds like his shtick.

    2. Re:Money goes straight to foundation... by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

      if so, why would he say "Goddamned Museum"? That sounds like his shtick.

      That's how he thinks. And why would he NOT say that if he's really irked at how Telsa has been treated or forgotten over the years?

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    3. Re:Money goes straight to foundation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Forgotten by having the SI unit of magnetic flux density named after him.

    4. Re:Money goes straight to foundation... by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Interesting

      People sometimes forget that this kind of piggyback marketing is his professional expertise, which he's done for longer than he's done the comic. Before he did The Oatmeal, he was an SEO consultant who would get people's domains ranked higher by making infographics to host there that he'd get to "go viral" on Reddit/etc. For example, you have some shady company selling penis-enlargement pills. You hire him, and draws you an infographic along the lines of FIVE CRAZY WACKY FACTS ABOUT PHALLUSES. That gets passed around a lot, and now your penis-enlargement domain has higher PageRank for a bunch of dong-related search terms.

      Nowadays a bigger part of his deal is the actual content (since it's popular in its own right), but he's still really good at this kind of marketing.

    5. Re:Money goes straight to foundation... by The+Dancing+Panda · · Score: 2

      If Tesla gets a museum out of it, why does that matter, exactly?

    6. Re:Money goes straight to foundation... by MagusSlurpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The fact that he is good at marketing his work doesn't invalidate the quality of his work.

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    7. Re:Money goes straight to foundation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have to remember, Oatmeal is not actually interested in Tesla, just the nerd mythos surrounding him. Theres no place for science or actual facts there.

    8. Re:Money goes straight to foundation... by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

      Trying separate the shtick from the man is a fools errand.

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    9. Re:Money goes straight to foundation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wardenclyffe was put on the market several years ago by a company asking about 2 million for it, and they claimed that if it didn't sell they would tear it down. Many people wanted it preserved, but no one wanted to go insies on the purchase. Turning it into a museum would both preserve it and offer a showcase that could better exemplify the historical value of the scientists and engineers over the past two centuries whose works paved the way for the infrastructure of the world we know today. They could call it the Tesla Museum for short, but officially it could be the Museum of Modern Electrical History.

  9. Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just as long as the museum isn't filled with as many inaccuracies as the Oatmeal piece was. Otherwise we're going to have a museum filled with "facts" that paint Tesla as a god who would have given the world free power, ended all wars, solved world hunger, and developed the ultimate recipe for apple pie, and Edison as a drooling idiot who couldn't have tied his shoes, let alone improve on the lightbulb, aid in the development of a system to deliver electrical current across long distances, and severely advance the technology of the basis of our modern medical imaging technology. (cue the rants about Clarence Dally, who had been victimized by Edison, despite the fact that Dally was a willing participant and we simply didn't know how dangerous X-rays were at the time. Look into every advance the science of radioactive materials in the first half of the 20th century, and you will find at least one Dally in each of them).

    They both were geniuses. They both were flawed.
    Without both of their contributions to science, I wouldn't be typing this (electricity is efficiently delivered to my house in the form of alternating current. A nifty little device translates that alternating current into direct current, which is what runs my computer).

    1. Re:Cool by glwtta · · Score: 2

      The Tesla/Edison thing does tend to get overstated a bit, but your last example doesn't actually include any contributions from Edison.

      It's precisely the system that Westinghouse and Tesla were advocating, and the adoption of which Edison tried to stop because he was so invested in DC power distribution. It's not like he invented the concept of direct current itself.

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    2. Re:Cool by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      They both were geniuses. They both were flawed.

      Well said. You don't have to turn it into hero-worship and hate the other guy like they were some 17th century mathematicians. You can actually like both of them.

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    3. Re:Cool by Jade_Wayfarer · · Score: 1

      Tom, log in, please! Don't be a stranger here.

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    4. Re:Cool by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 0

      Mod up X1000. The Oatmeal's response to Forbes was a pretty sad juvenile response. Tesla the man deserves better than to be deified. Science deserves better than to have Tesla deified.

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    5. Re:Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, don't you go insulting apple pie now!

    6. Re:Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. The Oatmeal took Forbes' reply and essentially replied "nuh-uh" to each carefully-laid-out point. Very scientific. As you imply, Tesla's memory is far better served if we apply reason to such discussions.

  10. maybe a Twain monument too? by Penurious+Penguin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From what I've read, Tesla and ol' Sam were fair pals. I actually don't see how they couldn't have been. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Twain_in_Tesla's_Lab.jpg

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  11. Shoreham: Middle of Nowhere, Long Island by splitsevin · · Score: 1

    Just a quick 90-100 minute jaunt in traffic from Manhattan into the heart of one of the least exciting places in all of New York. There is literally NOTHING out there unless you're on your way to the vineyards. I can't see this being a big tourist attraction which something like a Tesla museum deserves. Boo.

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    1. Re:Shoreham: Middle of Nowhere, Long Island by GuNgA-DiN · · Score: 1

      Maybe a world class scientific lab and museum is exactly what they need? When it gets built, I plan to visit.

  12. Frantastic Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's just super. Maybe after that, they can do a fundraiser to hire someone to come up with a less moronic name for their weblog.

    Captcha: penus

  13. I would but... by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

    .... what happens if they get the money, get the matching contribution from NY, and the other party simply raises their bid and gets the property? At that point the funds are committed and there's no way to get them back to the contributors who contributed via indiegogo.

    Too, indiegogo charges a fee, don't they? That further complicates it (and also means the 850k goal is not enough).

    1. Re:I would but... by GuNgA-DiN · · Score: 1

      In other words: "I'm a cheap bastard and I don't want to contribute". You must be a load of fun at pizza parties. You're the type of guy who eats 10 slices and then complains that it was soggy and doesn't want to pay.

    2. Re:I would but... by HistoryNerd · · Score: 1

      The actual current asking price is 1.6 million, so if they meet their goal with the matching funds from New York State, they would be clearly above this with 1.7 million dollars. (The Indiegogo fee is only 4% at that point.)

      It should be noted that they will need additional money to actually turn the building into a museum, so that where any money beyond the amount needed to buy the property will go.

      I would view it as unlikely the other developer will win by raising the bid because the company in question is not required to necessarily sell to the highest bidder, and if they refused to sell at the 1.6 million amount and even a bit higher, the company in question could be looking at boycott threats and a large amount of bad publicity if they don't sell the property to the foundation. Under these circumstances, local politicians might suggest there could be permitting issues and other regulatory problems with tearing down the historic property as the developer desires in order to scare them off.

      If its truly not possible to refund the money and the sale does not go through, presumably the non-profit in question would dedicate the money towards creating a Tesla museum and science center somewhere else in the New York City general area.

    3. Re:I would but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, he's the type of guy who says "I'll put in $10 for the pizza, but only if it's actually delivered." Shock and horror. People want shit for their money?

    4. Re:I would but... by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      In other words: "I'm a cheap bastard and I don't want to contribute". You must be a load of fun at pizza parties. You're the type of guy who eats 10 slices and then complains that it was soggy and doesn't want to pay.

      Interesting that you know so much about me. From your post I can tell that at the same party, you would pay three times the price of the pizza and suggest to the deliveryman that he should remember to bring it to the party if he had the time.

      My assessment is roughly as accurate as yours, and based on as little information. Except I managed it in a way that made my point without being nearly so insulting to a random stranger on the Internet.

    5. Re:I would but... by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      After re-reading I see that the money will be going to the Tesla Science Center at Wardenclyffe regardless - which seems a worthy cause in any case. Worst case, they get extra funds. Best case, the property gets bought. Looks like I'm in after all.

    6. Re:I would but... by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      And some people want money for their manure. Does that make shit legal tender?

  14. It's about time by GuNgA-DiN · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A lot of people make fun of the Tesla vs. Edison thing but, think about it: this man invented the modern world and nobody knows (or cares). I went through elementary, middle, and high school in America. Then, I went to college. I never once learned about Nikola Tesla. I didn't find out who he was until I was in my mid twenties. I read a biography about him and was blown away. This guy helped to create everything that I used on a daily basis and I had no idea who he was. It was sad really.

    It's about time that the geeks and scientists of the world step up and pay this man some respect. He DESERVES a museum in his honor in the USA. He deserves a place in the science curriculum. Children of today deserve to learn the truth about Tesla and all the ideas that he gave us. I just chipped in and I'm going to help to spread the word. It's time to give Telsa the recognition he deserves.

    1. Re:It's about time by icebraining · · Score: 2

      Aren't you an angry little boy.

      Just to clarify to other people: the Oatmeal guy isn't actually getting any money; it's going directly to the Tesla Science Center, a 503(c) non-profit organization: http://www.teslasciencecenter.org/about/

    2. Re:It's about time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here. Schools teach edison was THE inventor. Tesla was a footnote. at best. even in electronics schools.

      The man was a fucking genius and our entire modern world would not exist as it does today if it wasnt for him..
      He just didnt understand american business tactics. That of greed and douchebaggery.

      Sitting here in my a/c cooled house with my ac power and my tv and cable internet and wireless network and computers and radios all the way down to the motors in my fans... Tesla is directly responsible for all those things. ALL of the technology around me right now.

      Now the real sad part is... Imagine what we could have today if tesla had the proper backing and support. How many inventions and ideas did he never tell anyone about after getting screwed over so hard so many times?

      Excessive greed. It fucks up everything. We let tesla get screwed over at the time. And we screwed our entire future.
      Just so some already rich people could make even more money...

      We STILL dont know everything he knew, or invented, or imagined. Almost 100 years ago.

    3. Re:It's about time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except for the >$50k/mo in page views he makes, aided by such publicity stunts. Don't forget the merch sales... I'm a big Oat fan, but the guy doesn't JUST do these things out of the goodness of his heart, he's making bank. I've been following his traffic, the debacle with Funkyjunk was a blessing for his revenue.

      Also to the GP and GGP argument, if you got any sort of general science education and did not learn about Tesla, you really did get a bad education.

    4. Re:It's about time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reading these posts I've been reaffirmed that the American education system is a joke. I pity you guys. I for one did learn about Tesla in highschool and again in college, repeatedly. Did y'all folks at least learn about JEEEESUS and why evolution is satan's evil hoax?

      --an American sad at the state of science ed

    5. Re:It's about time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because you didn't hear about some guy means he is under-represented and under-appreciated in the country or world? Seriously? There are a lot of scientists who have made incredible discoveries and advancements that have led to our modern world, and a vast majority are less appreciated than even Tesla. If you think he is the embodiment of the underdog then I think your journey in science history is just beginning.

    6. Re:It's about time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing new here. Steve Jobs was the modern Edison.

  15. Re:Why the hell do people keep talking about The O by GuNgA-DiN · · Score: 2

    Maybe if you would listen to what he's saying and stop getting hung up on his name you'd understand why people like him.

  16. Re:Why the hell do people keep talking about The O by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude didn't get hung up on his name.

    You're either dyslexic or as nuts as your fapfodder Tesla was in the autumn of his life.

  17. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uhhh last time I checked The Lord is a Monkey

  18. I'm donating by Yosho-sama · · Score: 1

    I'm giving $10, not only because I believe in the validity of the project, but because off the goddamn name.

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    My kingdom for a donkey!
  19. Would love to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but if I donate $5,000 I have to stay at a hotel in NY in January? ;)

  20. Sweet Jesus, you aren't kidding. by lexsird · · Score: 2

    I wrote a paper on him for this gorgeous blonde who was struggling for one of her requisite classes for nursing. I got to help the world have another pretty, dumb blonde nurse, you are welcome world. I also got to read up on this guy, he's the superhero of science. The reason we don't know about him is because of the Cold War, you couldn't say nice things about people from that neighborhood. If you are my age or older and went through it, you will know wtf I am on about.

    Sadly we've never given credit where credit is due. What I want to know is, have the FBI ever turned loose all of his papers that they ransacked from his dwelling when he died? I don't want whacked for asking, forget I said anything if it's sensitive. At some point in time as a student of things engineering since I was a crafty ornery lad, I would love to see his later works that he kept. Or not, you know what I mean. They are probably in a PDF some place, and I have missed them, like walking by a barn looking for it.

    --
    Take the Red Pill.
    1. Re:Sweet Jesus, you aren't kidding. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.tesla-museum.org/ is where they are now.

      I should note that the FBI disavows having taken custody of Tesla's papers, and documents seem to bear this out. The FBI *was* howver called in by a member of his family after his death to investigate the disappearance of some of the papers from his suite at the New Yorker Hotel. The Office of Alien Property is supposed to have removed the remainder thereafter, including Tesla's plans for something which could be used as a particle beam weapon, and which was the basis for something call "Project Nick" about which few details seem to be available and which was subsequently, apparently, abandoned. The "particle beam" papers seem to have disappeared, too. The remainder of the papers were released by OAP in 1956 and now reside in the Belgrade museum.

      Good account with plenty of pics and docs at:
        http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49electric_universe/03files/Tesla_Life_and_Legacy_The_Missing_Papers.html

      On retrospect, there is plenty of elbow room for a conspiracy or two in there.

    2. Re:Sweet Jesus, you aren't kidding. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #!?/! Meant '52.

      btw, By '80 we have this:

      http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/mp_sovi_pop.html

      Coinkydink? Anybody know about this?

    3. Re:Sweet Jesus, you aren't kidding. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, I decided to take a stab at answering my own question, and long story short, this is an apparently somewhat infamous retouching with some artistic license by or on behalf of a much derided fellow named Keegan, which was part of trying to justify SDI, not that it particularly needed justification, in my view, but that's neither here nor there. At any rate, the closest I've seen so far to the structure in it is a gantry and tracks at a former Soviet nuclear rocket (think US NERVA) engineering and test facility in the huge main former Soviet nuclear test site outside Semipalatinsk in Kazakhstan. This is where the USSR tested thousands of nukes, many above ground, for decades, often neglecting to evacuate or even inform area residents before detonations. Google Images "Semipalatinsk" for some of the horrifying and haunting results, and be gratified to realize that scavengers have been opening up the sealed bore-holes and tunnels from underground tests to retrieve copper and so on to sell to the Chinese.

      Not to say that there isn't a death-ray out there somewhere, but the coordinates (5010'12.69"N, 7822'36.84"E) given on another version of this "photo" I found correspond to the rocket engine test complex.

  21. There already is a Tesla Museum... by t4ng* · · Score: 1

    TheOatmeal is dead wrong...

    There is no Tesla Museum in the United States

    Really? Not even this one? Tesla moved to Colorado to continue his experiments and to stupid lightening. Maybe Matthew Inman should learn to use that Google thingie on the intertubes.

    1. Re:There already is a Tesla Museum... by will_die · · Score: 2

      There use to be one in Colorado Springs but closed a few years ago due to lack of money.

    2. Re:There already is a Tesla Museum... by MagusSlurpy · · Score: 2

      That's not a museum. That's a new age hippie bullshit pyramid scheme claiming to be a museum. Their entire "about us" page is about how they are in no way related to the Tesla society down the street that "mysteriously" went bankrupt.

      We are the focal point of new and experimental scientific research in areas of electricity, free energy, magnetic resonance, and many other scientific endeavors. We prove this by the very nature of our shows and lectures.

      To see THE TESLA EXPERIENCE at The Tesla Museum or to buy tickets for THE GREATEST KNOW ON EARTH -ABOVE TOP SECRET show you must first—
      Call : 719-222-1911leave a brief message with your return Telephone Number. If the line is busy or your call is not promptly returned, try again. WE DO RETURN ALL CALLS !!!

      LECTURES ON OTHER TOPICS

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    3. Re:There already is a Tesla Museum... by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      can you find an actual address on that page and times it's open?
      no? I couldn't. it doesn't seem like they have an actual museum.

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      world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
    4. Re:There already is a Tesla Museum... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That closed...!? Damnit... When the hell did that happen?

    5. Re:There already is a Tesla Museum... by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      The only Tesla myseum right now is in Belgrade http://www.tesla-museum.org/ http://www.teslasociety.com/ www.teslasociety.com/ in cooperation with the Nikola Tesla Museum in Belgrade, Serbia. Tesla Corner. ****Nikola Tesla St. **** It was founded in Buffalo, New York in 1979. It is the oldest Tesla Society in Buffalo, 59-27 Woodbine Street, New York, NY 11385

    6. Re:There already is a Tesla Museum... by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      59-27 Woodbine Street, New York, NY 11385is actually in Queens NY, NOT BUFFALO.

    7. Re:There already is a Tesla Museum... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It closed around 1997 (?) or so if I remember correctly.

    8. Re:There already is a Tesla Museum... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the Belgrade museum is the repository for Tesla's papers that J. Edgar seized when he died. You, now, the ones that are supposedly tucked away in a US government warehouse along with the Ark of the Covenant, Hitler's UFO fleet, and so on.

  22. Anti-Copyright'rs | Where are you now? by Penurious+Penguin · · Score: 2

    Tesla was possibly one of the most brightly shining anti-proprietary knights in history -- intrinsically opposed to patent-trollery and obsessed with the upliftment and betterment of society. Yes, he took patents, as Stallman might willingly defile himself on an internet running through proprietary cables in order to do his work. Even the Buddha made a compromise along the way. Survival is especially tempting when you have epic (to say the least ) ideas. But I can think of no greater example than Tesla when considering the concept of open-source contributions to society. Ravaged and cabbaged by Morgans, Westinghouses, Edisons and government zombies, he lived humbly and ceaselessly contemplative to his last day, and on that day, a pigeon trumped humanity, as a deep and special etch in the key of utopia nearly died alone, if not for his feathered friend.

    And yet his name goes generally unmentioned throughout academia. In the realm of geeks his name is reminiscent not of a champion of transparent innovation, but of tinfoil and jokes. Yet he came to the US and was handed a shovel, with which he toiled and dug while thinking of how such labor might be accomplished without breaking not his own back, but the backs of his fellows.

    With no less honor than another ever had, Tesla sat beside and discussed the world with Einstein. And though not always eye to eye, a mutual respect was held. Mark Twain was also a friend of Tesla, and I'd myself not dare pass through a harsher judge of character than his.

    But maybe one is best judged not by their friends, but by their foes. And it may be worth asking what these foes have given to society without receiving their plunder and more. By the very gift that innovation is supposed to be, the variety pandered by some has brought luxury to others, but a sure promise of suffering to many more if persistent in the same direction. While the gap between now and then is wide and filled with complexities, I think a solid look into Tesla will reveal that this path we've chosen is something entirely different at the very core from what he had in mind. My guess is that in a world where super-geniuses don't die in poverty beside pigeons, but live well amongst their peers and share their creativity freely, that although it's not the world we're in, it's the world we should strive for. A museum seems a pittance, but a due and positive one anyway.

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    Forward! -- Emperor Norton, 2012
  23. Very recently? by humanrev · · Score: 1

    So what's this then from over three years ago (also with a listed price of $1.6 million)?

    http://slashdot.org/story/09/05/05/2146246/teslas-new-york-laboratory-up-for-sale

    Anyone who knows more, please let me/us know.

    --
    Most people on Slashdot are fucking idiots.
    1. Re:Very recently? by HistoryNerd · · Score: 1

      The key difference is there is now a developer willing to pay the price and who wants to flatten the site and turn it into a retail space, so the foundation has basically been given 6 weeks to come up with the money or the site and building is going to get sold and leveled.

      The other huge difference is the State of New York has now pledged matching donations up to 850,000 dollars to buy the site and start work on the museum, which makes reaching the goal more viable.

  24. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I prefer to use terms like darn, heck, and farshing spagma machine.

  25. Yes, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    will it have Tesla coils towering over the parking lot?

  26. A retail outlet? by EdgePenguin · · Score: 2

    What the hell? I've visited America, and I was not struck by any great shortage of a) land or b) retail outlets. Why do they have to try and build one on this historic site?

    1. Re:A retail outlet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Becuase the land's there and their market analysis (Mainly pulling numbers out their ass over their heads...) told them that this was a GREAT location for their shopping center.

      I'm kind of surprised anyone's got 1.7 mil to spend on anything like that right at the moment. More impressive is that there's all sorts of locations relatively nearby that could be rennovated, etc. Typical stupid waste they call "progress".

    2. Re:A retail outlet? by EdgePenguin · · Score: 1

      One would hope that the first sniff of a serious bidding war would cause them to reconsider and go for a plot of land that would be the subject of a nerd fundraising campaign.

    3. Re:A retail outlet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1.7 million dollars is actually not as much money as you think. Full disclosure, I'm a real estate developer, not involved in this deal or anything in New York state. 1.7 million dollars could be a residential plot in many places in the country. 1.7 for a retail lot would generally not be a particularly big deal. Still important to a developer or firm, but not something you'd be surprised they could spend. Remember there aren't many 'start-up' real estate developers anymore, coming up and going under with the recession. I've been in this business 35 years, my son will take it over when I retire with all of my assets, and hopefully his son after him. People generally get their start in this business with considerable capital to work with.

      Our industry is hurting, but in the retail/industrial space it's not as bad as people think.

    4. Re:A retail outlet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that to a developer spending an extra $300k may be trivial given a projected RoI, just to win a bid. Where as to a fundraiser that's a lot of extra fund raising past the goal mark, a lot....

    5. Re:A retail outlet? by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      Long Island is quickly running out of open land, the prices in some areas in eastern areas are astronomical. More and more farmland is being sold to developers. Closer to N.Y. City, perfectly sound homes get razed to the ground in order to sub-divide the land and build multiple homes. It's a crazy market here on L.I. where home prices average $375,000, and the closer to the water you go, well as they say, if you have to ask what the price is, you probably can't afford it! http://www.deptofnumbers.com/asking-prices/new-york/long-island/

    6. Re:A retail outlet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One would hope that the first sniff of a serious bidding war would cause them to reconsider and go for a plot of land that would be the subject of a nerd fundraising campaign.

      Yeah, good luck getting nerds to actually get involved in a cause, it might mean getting off their asses and out into the real world! Really, that 'aint gonna' happen. Nerds are life's losers who just want to play with their toys and type on their computers about how smart and great they are. Actually they contribute very little to the betterment of the human race.

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  28. I live near Shoreham by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

    The people who actually own the land want to sell it to serious investors who would make a true museum in tribute to Tesla. They recently said in a Newsday story how they get a lot of crackpot types wanting to exploit the land and Tesla's name for their own purposes. The Tesla tower was sold for scrap long ago, and cement used to seal up the entrance leading to the underground lab area, though the original red brick lab building still remains onsite. Here's a link..., http://www.newsday.com/opinion/viewsday-1.3683911/nikola-tesla-s-former-lab-home-to-a-brilliant-scientist-deserves-preservation-1.3896651 If that link does not work try this one http://www.newsday.com/opinion/viewsday-1.3683911/nikola-tesla-s-former-lab-home-to-a-brilliant-scientist-deserves-preservation-1.3896651

  29. tesla = genius, edison = businessman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yes tesla really was an all time genius, while edison was a good business man, reminds a little bit on Jobs vs. Gates :) See this cool TED talk on tesla: www.smartlab.at/the-rise-and-fall-of-nikola-tesla/

  30. The life of Tesla (Youtube) by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

    Youtube has this program about the life of Nikola Tesla http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=eoY_7mbm5ng PBS has this interactive page on the man... http://www.pbs.org/tesla/

  31. Site suitablility? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Outside of the historic connections, is this really the site for a serious museum of high-voltage physics and hi-power wireless engineering? Used to be cow pastures, probably, but now is suburbs. Just think of the RF interference. Make your own Carringtion event. Think of the liablility concerns, too.

    Don't think the neighbors that probably kick about cell towers are going to be too happy with a working reproduction of the Tesla's transmitter, and if it ain't working, why bother? There are other venues in the region more suited, really.

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  33. Re:No. by couchslug · · Score: 1

    Prove your Sky Fairie exists, NOW, irrefutably, or fuck off.

    Superstition has plenty of facilities. They are temples, mosques, and churches. Spend your money there.

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