Motorola's Whacked Lapdock Can Make Raspberry Pi Base
Nerval's Lobster writes "Poor sales have driven Motorola Mobility to whack the Webtop, its attempt to make Android into an all-in-one operating system for both smartphones and traditional PCs. Motorola confirmed the death to CNET before issuing a widely circulated statement. Webtop allowed users to plug their Motorola device into a special laptop dock, which could then display Web pages and files on a full screen. Supported devices included the Motorola Atrix 2, which launched with Android 2.3 ('Gingerbread') and a dual-core 1GHz processor. For those few who bought a Webtop and now need something to do with it, Liliputing posted an article earlier this year about using the device to transform Raspberry Pi into a laptop (with the aid of some key accessories). Raspberry Pi's homebrew computer features a 700MHz processor capable of overclocking to 1GHz and 256MB of RAM, as well as an SD card for longer storage—specs that lag those of the latest smartphones, but Raspberry Pi has the virtue of being quite a bit cheaper at $35."
Subject makes about as much sense as the title + first few lines of the summary. Yikes, could you at least try to write something coherent?
Doesn't seem like they really want anything from them and they have nothing good left now.
Motorola's Whacked Lapdock Can Make Raspberry Pi Base
So what do I do? Add water? Mix and bake?
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
...wait, what?
Operation Guillotine is in effect.
I'm still trying to decide if it blends...
If you're trying to figure that out, I must advise against trying to use the Blender.
I have been a captive in America my entire life. Everybody and everything uses customary units instead of metric.
... so it must be good!
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
So you can buy an expensive, rare piece of kit to build a some what crappy laptop with?
Other than an exercise in rPi development this seems like a solution looking for a problem.
I own a Moto Razr phone (for which this dumb idea was intended) and opted to buy a very cheap ($50 off CL) eee pc for my tinkering...
It's the Foleo curse!
I think there is a link missing to the actual article on Liliputing: http://liliputing.com/2012/06/turn-a-raspberry-pi-into-laptop-with-a-70-motorola-lapdock.html
I bought a lapdock for my Droid RAZR Maxx and have been very pleased with the results. It wasn't worth the retail they were asking but getting one off of eBay for less than $100 was suitable for me. I use it to exploit the access that my company gave to our BYOD cellphones. I can now remote in with my "phone" and use Citrix or RDP connections and do just about everything I might need to use my laptop for. Sort of sad it is discontinued, but not unexpected. Works great for Netflix and other streaming as well. I am glad I got mine when I did. Perhaps I ought to troll eBay for other examples to use as parts?
The only time that I ever heard of this device is when it's getting whacked. Maybe if they put a little bit more effort into marketing this thing...
But making a specialized device that works with only a few select phones seems to be a bad idea anyway. If they have more clout and developed a standard that will work with all Android phones, then maybe they would find more demand. Now that MMI is a part of Google maybe that will happen.
Also, for phone accessories -- a very expensive accessory -- you would need at least 2-4 years for any good sales to take hold. No one is going to upgrade their phone immediately after seeing this. Even if they want it, most people would wait until their current contract with their carrier ends. Then they have to remember about this device so they'd pick a Motorola phone. Then again, knowing it will only a few select phones means it is a very bad investment for the money because in 2 years, it could be useless again.
Yeah, the title is a little too inside baseball to make sense to the average reader. Fortunately the summary clarifies the title nicely.
As a former Atrix owner, the lapdock was really enticing until I learned its limitations. There's no webcam, so your front-facing camera only sees the back of the lapdock. For whatever reason the trackpad lacked any kind of scrolling, which is imperative for webpages. There was no edge scrolling or two-finger gesture.
They were overpriced and the only way to get them not overpriced was when you're buying your phone, which is when you're already dropping a few hundred bucks on that and new accessories (unless you've already switched to android). Then you even had to buy the $35/mo "tethering option" (what why?! It's not like you could use your phone while it was docked) after dropping another $200 on the hardware.
In the end, great concept, bad execution. Tablets moved in to this space, which I guess were more profitable for Motorola. I can't but think had it changed to be scrollable and not require tethering and have a camera, that many more people would have signed up.
Slashdot's rate-of-post filter: Preventing you from posting too many great ideas at once.
If you want a low-end tablet, get one. They start at around $45 now. By the time you get this thing, a Rasberry Pi, and all the necessary cables and connectors, you'll have spent more, and you'll have an underpowered laptop.
And if you want an "entertainment device", you can get Allwinner-based set-top boxes for about $75, with case and connectors. They usually come with Android, and you can load other Linux distros if you want.
If you're doing homebrew embedded work, one of the ARM boards in the Auduno form factor is probably more useful.
We're not even trying anymore.
it was an idea before it's time. The phones needed more ram and more storage to be useful. 1gb of ram just wasn't enough to drive X11 and be responsive. The thing was always running out of memory and it stopped firefox from being usable on it.I loved my lapdock but the limitations were obvious. They need to revive the concept in about 3 years time and make a phone with 4-16gb of ram, when 128-256gb micro sd cards are affordable for users. Then it could replace a laptop. I can see the potential of the webdock to be a fantastic device, but right now it's too hamstrung by physical limitations.
I'm in the process of relocating and have been using my Droid4 with the Lapdock made for the Bionic as my only non 4 inch screen internet access device. It will likely be another two weeks until I can get my PC's back online. I paid $120 for the lapdock, much less than a new laptop. The phones could definately use more RAM; that would improve the performance. Also when VZW rolled out ICS the Webtop went to crap without Firefox and Flash. Of course I've installed those. I only trusted the motel computers to print out files that I downloaded to the phone and then moved to a USB stick using the lapdock. Three weeks in West Virginia and I have found a decent place to live and a union carpenter job. Don't fuck with me, I build your house your office.....
What the hell? Where did you learn to do math?
(Also, WTF is an Auduno?)
I am one if the crazy people who bought one of these Motorola Lapdocks, and am using it happily with my Raspberry Pi. I plan to use it with other boards in the future. No regrets here, whatsoever. I'm sure that many others out there who purchased one of these have similar plans.
I fail to see what makes this so outrageous.
Mine was ordered from Amazon, for right at $60 (w/ free shipping). I spent another ca. $15 on the needed cables and adapter. (Also free shipping, though that meant I had to wait five weeks or so for the cables and adapter to arrive from China.)
For me, the convenience made it all worthwhile. The Lapdock has a power supply, 1366x768 display, built-in speakers and two USB ports. It can run a Raspberry Pi for many hours from its battery. It provides a very nice, compact environment for working with the rPi, and I'd recommend one of these Lapdocks to anyone considering one.
"if it BLENDS, its funny. if it breaks, its not."
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"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
Raspberry Pi isn't a great fit for much of anything, and there are cheaper options available.
If you want a smartphone, the Venture has comparable specs, and sells for $50, contract-free, and VirginMobile has some of the cheapest cell plans, too.
If you want a desktop, you can usually get a used, mini P4 system (40w idle) for $35 from geeks.com. Better deals are often available from local off-lease PC dealers.
If you want a tablet, Walmart stocks a $50 Pandigital model for $50.
Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
In a nutshell many companies are twisting their minds all out of shape as to how best combine the smart phone, smart tablet and smart book into as cheap and easily connectible system as possible. How to cut corners in cost, and where best to stick that smart phone, to the tablet, to the keyboard and of course to the big screen TV (will the problems never end). Everyone knows they who do it best will be the next Apple, while Apple rots in the barrel with the rest. Motorola is conducting experiments, with which the arm all competitors in the Android market space.
For ease of use, tapping the devices together to let them sort it out remotely is the easiest but damn, you have to pay for all that hardware four time to do it. Twice is about the best you can hope for, you can hide the profit in the bug screen but eventually customers are going to wake up to how much they are getting screwed over when it comes to smart phones and charging them twice more is going to be a struggle. ASUS seems to temporarily be closest http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/02/28/asus-padfone-brings-phone-tablet-docking-station-and-stylus-to-ice-cream-sandwich/ but implementation is somewhat broken.
Likely reality those profit margins on smart phones especially on their way over priced components is going to start crashing pretty soon and a quick tap is most likely the easiest solution. Specialist phones type companies are screwed as the broad product range companies take over on a commoditised product.
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
With a bit of sugru a switch and some soldering you can make a very nice dock to mount the raspberry pi on - http://kimondo.co.uk/raspberry-pi-modmypi-case-motorola-atrix-lapdock-raspberry-pi-laptop/ - plus it works with a ps3 as well.
http://lizardmonkeyengineering.blogspot.com/
I had an atrix and one of the laptop docks so I created one of these a while ago. All it takes is some cables and adapters and some time soldering. Everything works; mouse/keyboard. Able to power the raspberry Pi from the lapdock. Currently working on getting a good wifi dongle to work so it would be truly portable.
Twice Raspberry Pi? Does that give Raspberry Tau?
"In a nutshell many companies are twisting their minds all out of shape as to how best combine the smart phone, smart tablet and smart book into as cheap and easily connectible system as possible."
Is THAT what they're doing? Oh. Ok, well that's fairly easy, take the PCMCIA dock out of my thinkpad and let me stuff my phone in there. Problem solved on so many levels.
Need Mercedes parts ?