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ICANN To Replace 'Digital Archery' Program With Raffle
itwbennett writes "As Slashdot readers will recall, ICANN has been struggling to find a way to decide which applications to evaluate first. At the end of June, ICANN announced it had abandoned plans to use the Digital Archery contest. Then at the end of July, ICANN said it would process all applications simultaneously. Now there's a new plan in the works: an old-fashioned, manual raffle with tickets costing $100. There's just one catch, though: California law prohibits unlicensed lotteries."
The Canadian province of British Columbia does as well... And Quebec requires that anyone running a raffle or other game of chance not only register, but pay all provincial and federal taxes on the winnings.
I got out of the ISP business a decade ago. But it seems nothing has changed, they still richly deserve what we used to call them back then, ICANN't
... just use an auction. Why is this so difficult?
ICANN serves no point but to make a few old white guys filthy rich these days. call me an old fart but i think .info proved good and goddamned well we dont need anymore TLD's. .org is already abused enough as it is, and unless ICANN wants to chew through those shit sandwiches first i dont think they should be allowed to do any archery, or raffles, or whatever charades they feel are appropriate in the means of keeping up appearances while they whore out the internet.
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Context please!
Time for them to do the f*** job. A lottery jeez. If they can't do the job they should just say so and resign.
This whole thing from day one has been about one thing and one thing only: money.
I didn't like this gTLD crap when they first announced it and I think this just confirms how bad of a joke this whole thing is.
If this raffle idea goes through I urge everyone to just ignore it. ICANN needs to get their head out of their ass.
These idiots have already given us sacks of cash for nothing in return. How much more can we scam off them?
What's wrong with doing them in the order they are recieved, like almost everyone else does for everything else?
TFS doesn't say what this shit is for. It's for applications for new gTLDs - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_top-level_domain .
Basically, a bunch of clowns at major corporations want to register their own version of .com, .net, etc.. ICANN said "no that's dumb" for a long time, but someone told them they could make money off of it, so they decided to go for it, but they didn't have any plan on how to handle applications. ICANN as usual fucked it up.
Now there's probably a hundred applications for .abc and ICANN can't figure out which one to evaluate first.
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While this isn't what most people think it is, I really must ask: WHY?! :-(
I have been a captive in America my entire life. Everybody and everything uses customary units instead of metric.
Who the hell put these jokers in charge in the first place? They keep going from one bad idea to the next...
It's not like we haven't been without a method of selling off scarce but highly desired items. Would an auction not work? This lottery idea is downright retarded.
Step 1 - Open submission. Qualified parties can submit a list of TDLs they want.
Step 2 - Take the list from step 1 and create auctions for each one (Filter by some reasonable minimum threshold if there are too many submissions)
Step 3 - Announce dates of each auction, and allow the highest bidder to take the rights to the TLD. (I'm sure there are dozens of respected institutions they could hire to run said auctions)
Step 4 - Massive, scrooge McDuck swimming in an ocean of money amounts of profit.
or is there a metric tonne of crap that California's consumer protection laws save the rest of us from?
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The rotten and corrupt Domain Name System.
This probably violates California cancer disclosure laws.
It is just selecting the order by lot.
Lotteries and raffles are sweepstakes and are restricted. In a sweepstakes, you pay X amount of money but don't necessarily get X amount of product. The biggest restriction is that each person who enters must receive something of at least the value of what they paid. And since you don't want to pay everyone out, that effectively means the entry price must be $0 to satisfy this restriction.
But in the iCANN system each of these companies "wins", they all receive what they paid for, just the order changes. Legally, there's no problem with this.
http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/8/20/95
I bought my raffle ticket? Where's my post?
Have gnu, will travel.
There's no way a raffle can be rigged!
clicked all the article links and they all talk like everyone know what it means. Also google search only link to articles saying icann is not using whatever it is. probably the very same article that must have came here trhu reuters or some other.
The only link that does not appear to be that same article is this one http://www.digitalarcheryexperts.com/
but it appears to be the destination of clicks on those 'hit the monkey' banners from the 90s so i will not take it seriously.
Hi -
For many years I attended meetings of the old UCLA PC Users group, which later essentially became the Los Angeles Computer Society. At the end of most meetings various prizes (usually donated by attending vendors who were trying to promote those products) were given away by drawing little pieces of paper with member names on them from some kind of container. When we met at UCLA we were told to always call this a "drawing", which was OK. But if we had referred to it as a "raffle" or "lottery" that would have broken various rules for groups meeting on the UCLA campus.
- TWR
Redondo Beach, California
Anyone want to create a GTLD blocker program?
If enough angry people install it, it won't matter if gtld's exist..
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Its going to cost enough anyway to try and get one, just have everyone meet at a bar and do pulltabs or darts. Or maybe a contest to decide what contest to use to hand out names...
Just make the winner of the raffle answer what is Six Plus 8 Times Seven. If they can't handle basic arithmetic using PEMDAS, then they lose.
...that we really don't need ICANN when we have alternative democratic roots such as OpenNIC? Those who complain about the money-grubbing ways of ICANN really shouldn't complain if they haven't checked out the alternatives.
They could just arrange a deathmatch game of Q3 arena, with all the applicants for a gTLD allowed to choose one entrant who MUST have been a company employee for at least a year, and the first to twenty frags gets it...
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Have a computer program with a good solid Random Number Generator pick the order in which new TLDs get evaluated.
No-one can complain because its random and everyone has an equal chance of getting their TLDs evaluated first.
Am I the only one who misread the title at first as: ICANN To Replace 'Digital Archery' Program With Rifle ?
Get rid of all of them except .com. Just don't issue any others, and leave the ones already there until attrition destroys them.
There's no actual value to having different tlds for the website xxxxxx, other than to make money for domain sellers, who frighten the owner ( renter ) of xxxxxx.com into buying more domains for the same site to stop competitors from using xxxxxx.net or xxxxxx.org. I have never come across a real site whose domain name led to an entirely unrelated site run by different owners based on the .yyy.
Should one imagine this would lead to not enough site names, there are enough words to be combined in any language and enough languages to accommodate millions of sites. Plus losing the fake/crap sites ---scraper-sites for just one instance --- would not harm the internet at all.
Score:-1, Redundant
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Stop the new TLD mess, it's just a money grab. Only introduce new TLD's if there's a clear need for it. .biz and .info have pretty much failed as well (mostly scam sites), how much better will all those hundreds of new TLD's fare?
Instead focus on releasing those millions of parked domainnames or atleast fix the administrative gap that allows registrars to keep those millions of domains parked for practically free. The problem isn't a lack of TLD's, it's a lack of decent domainnames and most of those are wasted on yet another money grabbing scheme.
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Just process the damn applications in order of submission already.
If that doesn't work, randomize it and be done with it.
This is turning into a farce because you are dilly dallying WHILE YOU ALREADY HAVE THEIR MONEY.
If I was one of the applicants I would be suing you for fraud by now.