Foxconn Denies Plans For New US Operations

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Foxconn Denies Plans For New US Operations

Posted by timothy on Friday November 9, 2012 @02:12PM from the wishful-thinking dept.

pigrabbitbear writes with an update to the story, based on a DigiTimes report, that iPhone maker Foxconn would be opening a new factory in the U.S. "Foxconn makes a lot of stuff, but as it's one of Apple primary manufacturing partners, lots of people jumped to the salacious conclusion that a U.S.-based Foxconn factory could finally produce an American-made iPhone. Foxconn denied the DigiTimes report today. A company spokeswoman told CNET that the company actually 'already has multiple facilities based in the U.S.' but that 'there are no current plans to expand our operations there at this time.' Foxconn doesn't make iPhones in the existing U.S. factories, and they don't plan to."

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slightly off-topic by tloh · 2012-11-09 14:25 · Score: 5, Interesting

I've always been curious why the manufacturing outfit is named "FOX"conn. In Chinese folklore, (which is apolitical and applies equally to mainland as well as Taiwan) foxes have a notorious reputation as agents of evil. In stories, the fox spirit, "hu li jin" often takes human form as a young, nubile, seductress and sets out to corrupt scholars and governing officials. Or maybe I'm reading too much into it. Afterall, the most successful tech company stateside is named after the fruit that caused Man's expulsion from paradise according to the bible.

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1. Re:slightly off-topic by ThatsMyNick · 2012-11-09 14:38 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  I am not sure if you can really split up a word like that. But in answer to your question, fox is known for in cunningness (it is the same as the west).
2. Re:slightly off-topic by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 14:39 · Score: 0
  
  truth in advertising, perhaps?
3. Re:slightly off-topic by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 14:39 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  What company is named "Fruit of The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil"?
4. Re:slightly off-topic by Quasimodem · 2012-11-09 14:58 · Score: 1
  
  You don't mean Zune, do you?
5. Re:slightly off-topic by DNS-and-BIND · 2012-11-09 15:36 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  Uh, hello, because "FOX"conn is the English name of a Chinese company? It's just a trade name. In Chinese it means something like "wealthy healthy scholar technology group". The company's real name is Hon Hai Precision Industry Co., Ltd. where Hon is a kind of goose and Hai means ocean. Jeez, for someone who supposedly thinks a lot, you sure don't do much thinking outside the box.
  
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6. Re:slightly off-topic by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 15:45 · Score: 0, Informative
  
  It has nothing to do with foxes, look at the name in Chinese. Fushikang, which sounded like Foxconn to some Taiwanese secretary with half-assed English skills. Probably I was her teacher and banging her back in the early 90s in Taipei. http://www.foxconn.com/images/Foxconn.gif
7. Re:slightly off-topic by theswimmingbird · 2012-11-09 15:48 · Score: 0
  
  To be fair, he circumvented the Apple's DRM protection. They didn't much like that.
8. Re:slightly off-topic by jhoegl · 2012-11-09 15:53 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Except the Fox News.
  When the Fox News is seen in the wild, it shows its ability to ignore all threats by assuming it is the alpha of everything around it.
  It is an interesting defense mechanism which seems to work on 47% of the people in the USA.
9. Re:slightly off-topic by martin-boundary · 2012-11-09 15:54 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Come on, AAPLy some common sense!
10. Re:slightly off-topic by Scarletdown · 2012-11-09 15:58 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Afterall, the most successful tech company stateside is named after the fruit that caused Man's expulsion from paradise according to the bible.
  There are no references within canon Christian or Jewish mythology that identifies what the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil actually was.
  
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11. Re:slightly off-topic by jaminJay · 2012-11-09 15:59 · Score: 1
  
  I know of no mighty company named "Quince"... maybe it's because I'm foreign?
  
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12. Re:slightly off-topic by poity · 2012-11-09 16:19 · Score: 1
  
  It's just a phonetic approximation of Fu Shi Kang
  
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13. Re:slightly off-topic by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 16:21 · Score: 0
  
  I'm too lazy to search for it but it probably meant something else and they changed it when they went to a global presence. Korean companies have some strange names when converted to english to, Lucky Goldstar is a good example. Next time you are stopped waiting for a train to pass, check out some of those names on container cars.
14. Re:slightly off-topic by tloh · 2012-11-09 16:24 · Score: 1, Offtopic
  
  Think a lot doesn't necessary mean think profound or even think sensible. :-p It's Friday and I've got nothing better to do. Damn, slashdot! I can't believe you gave my brain fart a +5 interesting. Does this mean I'm really good or really bad at trolling?
  
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15. Re:slightly off-topic by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 17:19 · Score: 0
  
  "Fox" and "con" if you drop one of the ''n'. Both are cunning and "con" artist.
16. Re:slightly off-topic by WGFCrafty · 2012-11-09 17:47 · Score: 2
  
  Except in many American Indian's folklore where they are evil and thought to be the animal embodiment of shape-shifters/Indian sorcerers.
17. Re:slightly off-topic by dbIII · 2012-11-09 19:26 · Score: 1
  
  In stories, the fox spirit, "hu li jin" often takes human form as a young, nubile, seductress and sets out to corrupt scholars and governing officials.
  Maybe "salacious" is the correct word then :) Foxy lady!
18. Re:slightly off-topic by crutchy · 2012-11-09 19:29 · Score: 0
  
  i'm usually disappointed in my slashdot comments if they don't start a troll flight.... bring it on :)
  
  microsoft rulz ok
  
  iphone sucks dick
  
  google is evil
  
  i love justin bieber!
19. Re:slightly off-topic by tlhIngan · 2012-11-09 19:32 · Score: 2
  
  Except the Chinese don't refer to it as Foxconn. It's known has Hon Hai Precision Electronics. That's the real name it does business as. Foxconn is its English branding name it uses for the western world because "Hon Hai" may get distorted when translated. Plus it's also way easier to spell over the phone with someone whose only language is English.
  If you ever get anything assembled at Foxconn, your assemblies come back on boxes marked with Hon Hai on them.
20. Re:slightly off-topic by crutchy · 2012-11-09 19:32 · Score: 0
  
  fox network is a con.... maybe fox should sue foxconn for ripping off both their name and reputation
21. Re:slightly off-topic by sethstorm · 2012-11-09 19:43 · Score: 1
  
  Well, that would explain the actions of Foxconn that are less than honest or honorable towards their workers.
  
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22. Re:slightly off-topic by Alex+Belits · 2012-11-09 20:12 · Score: 1
  
  /b/ never was good.
  
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23. Re:slightly off-topic by _xeno_ · 2012-11-09 20:44 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  Although there is a reason that apples are identified as that fruit: it's a horrible Latin pun.
  Unfortunately the difference is in the diatric marks over the letter and Slashdot can't figure out how to deal with UTF-8 because they might have to look up the BIDI control characters, but basically "apple" and "evil" are both "malum" (but with a different sounding "a", I guess) in Latin.
  It can also be traced to Greek mythology, but I like the idea of it being a bad Latin pun that everyone latched on to.
  
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24. Re:slightly off-topic by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 21:00 · Score: 0
  
  To this, my friend, the elves know not the answer.
25. Re:slightly off-topic by jones_supa · 2012-11-09 22:38 · Score: 1
  
  Think a lot doesn't necessary mean think profound or even think sensible. :-p It's Friday and I've got nothing better to do. Damn, slashdot! I can't believe you gave my brain fart a +5 interesting. Does this mean I'm really good or really bad at trolling?
  Points deserved. I have also sometimes thought about the origins of the company's name, thanks for bringing it into the discussion.
26. Re:slightly off-topic by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 22:49 · Score: 0
  
  Err... Don't know what translator you used but Hon (é) actually means vast/huge/enormous, so "Hon Hai" literally means vast ocean.
27. Re:slightly off-topic by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 23:13 · Score: 0
  
  Apples are mentioned nowhere in the bible, only fruit.
28. Re:slightly off-topic by DNS-and-BIND · 2012-11-10 06:30 · Score: 1
  
  "Hon" is the character for bird next to water. The meaning is a swan, or goose.
  
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29. Re:slightly off-topic by ThatsMyNick · 2012-11-10 06:37 · Score: 1
  
  It was still named by a chinese speaker though. If Fox was evil in chinese folklore, no way would they have named it foxconn.
30. Re:slightly off-topic by Anne+Thwacks · 2012-11-10 07:03 · Score: 1
  
  Yggdrasil. Now give me the money!
  
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31. Re:slightly off-topic by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-10 09:45 · Score: 0
  
  Fox News is named that because it had its basis in 20th Century Fox, which came from Fox Film Corporation, founded by William Fox, whose name was changed form Wilhelm Fuchs by Ellis Island immigration officials when his family came to the US from Hungary.
32. Re:slightly off-topic by crutchy · 2012-11-10 13:13 · Score: 1
  
  if i sniff enough crack and paint fumes, smoke enough hooch and drink enough gas, his voice sounds like angels...
US IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY! by CajunArson · 2012-11-09 14:26 · Score: 3, Interesting

OK, so all those snarky posts about how the U.S. is a worthless third world country because Foxconn was going to open factories here?
GUESS WHAT: Now the U.S. is a worthless third world country because Foxconn isn't going to open factories here!
That's the beuatiful thing about already have a predetermined conclusion, the facts always fit.

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1. Re:US IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 15:29 · Score: 1
  
  What's your point? That type of human behavior and modeling the world with preconceived notions and ideas is pretty common to the human psyche. At least a century ago it was shown that the same event would be perceived differently by a group of observers. To believe it only exists in an opposing group. In any event, make an actual argument about something instead of attacking. Even your sig is just a bunch of whining and buzzwords with no real substance.
  
  Consider your observation. Surely there were also some that argued Foxconn was coming to the U.S. because of productivity, automation, efficiency etc. Their view that America is number one was assumed either way and hasn't changed with this news. So yeah, the majority of the population have predetermined conclusions. What's more upsetting though, is that some think their own predetermined conclusions are more valid than somebody else's. Very few approach any subject without some framework of expectations.
2. Re:US IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY! by poity · 2012-11-09 16:25 · Score: 1
  
  Many of us liberals tend to claim the intellectual/rational high ground. If that is indeed the case, then we should expect to hold ourselves to a higher standard as well. And when we are wrong we should be the first to admit it, not the first to point out how often others are wrong.
  
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3. Re:US IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY! by AK+Marc · 2012-11-09 16:39 · Score: 1
  
  The truth is the truth, even if it is inconvenient or undesirable. Attacking the messenger doesn't change the truth, even if it makes you feel better about it.
  
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4. Re:US IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 16:57 · Score: 0
  
  I'm not a liberal.
5. Re:US IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY! by crutchy · 2012-11-09 19:34 · Score: 1
  
  i guess it does get cold there
6. Re:US IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY! by dbIII · 2012-11-09 19:34 · Score: 1
  
  worthless third world country
  That seems to be the plan. You don't get a Congo sized difference in wealth between the rich and poor without the majority losing their standard of living.
7. Re:US IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY! by Alex+Belits · 2012-11-09 20:25 · Score: 1
  
  i guess it does get cold there
  Especially around the first and, for now, last facility on Earth that launches humans into space. And on top of about 1/5 of the world's Uranium.
  Some jokes aren't nearly as funny if people who hear them aren't ridiculously ignorant.
  
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It was according to "Market Watchers" by TaoPhoenix · 2012-11-09 14:27 · Score: 3, Interesting

So who Watches the Market Watchers?
Someone trolled Digitimes well apparently. Everybody got their ad clicks in already. I don't know if anyone "loses face" in events like this. Does the media care about posting incorrect stories?

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Slavery laws are too strict by SampleFish · 2012-11-09 14:31 · Score: 3, Funny

he went on to say "The only thing we manufacture at U.S. facilities is the hate a greed required to continue pushing our sweatshops to new productivity levels."
Slashdot even planned factory in Detroit by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 14:33 · Score: 0

Slashdot users after lengthy discussion even came up the best spot in Detroit. Fucking Chinese.
Lots of gullible people, like slashdot by gargeug · 2012-11-09 14:33 · Score: 2

"...lots of people jumped to the salacious conclusion that a U.S.-based Foxconn factory could finally produce an American-made iPhone..." Including freaking /. itself at http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/11/09/0136211/foxconn-sees-new-source-of-cheap-labor-the-united-states. I've watched this site slowly assimilate into the blogspam world, and here is a perfect example.
1. Re:Lots of gullible people, like slashdot by JustOK · 2012-11-09 14:40 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Slashdot is a Dice Holdings, Inc. company
  
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2. Re:Lots of gullible people, like slashdot by gargeug · 2012-11-09 15:00 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  I looked up Dice Holdings, Inc and at first believed it was some \. jape, like a fake website constructed to mess with people. But further investigation showed it was no jape at all, and the crap blogspam I have seen populating this site now makes perfect sense. Thank you JustOK.
Worst part ... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 14:39 · Score: 0

... the idiots believed the story ... although they were claiming that Los Angeles and Detroit were top places for cheap labor.
US slaped by market invisible hand by manu0601 · 2012-11-09 14:43 · Score: 4, Insightful

Given that iPhone assembly require human work, it was quite unlikely that Foxconn could find cheaper manufacturing costs in US rather than in China. The only hopes to bring back production in the US are a huge raise in transport costs (as if we ran out of oil for instance), or to give up on worldwide free trade.
1. Re:US slaped by market invisible hand by drinkypoo · 2012-11-09 15:20 · Score: 1
  
  The only hopes to bring back production in the US are a huge raise in transport costs (as if we ran out of oil for instance), or to give up on worldwide free trade.
  Or human rights tariffs, which bring goods from countries competing by abusing their workers into cost parity with goods made in countries where workers have rights.
  
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2. Re:US slaped by market invisible hand by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 15:47 · Score: 0
  
  by "abusing their workers" you mean "substantially improving their standard of living"
3. Re:US slaped by market invisible hand by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 16:05 · Score: 0
  
  Money isn't the only thing worth a damn in this country brother. /hulk hogan accent
4. Re:US slaped by market invisible hand by drinkypoo · 2012-11-09 23:22 · Score: 1
  
  by "abusing their workers" you mean "substantially improving their standard of living"
  1) At least I exist. You don't, so you're not permitted to have an opinion. Log in or stop using words like "you". You don't get to tell me what you mean when you're too scared to log in and put your name to your ignorance.
  2) China clearly does not give one tenth of one fuck about its people. Indeed, its people generally don't seem to give one tenth of one fuck about one another. Kind of like here. Indeed, China does everything it can to prevent its citizens from actually improving their lives, because if they do that enough to get educated enough to see what's going on their will collectively shit, and one billion simultaneous shits could cause a lot of trouble for the rich, corrupt assholes in charge over there.
  
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5. Re:US slaped by market invisible hand by RatherBeAnonymous · 2012-11-10 14:44 · Score: 1
  
  Or insert pro-union agitators into China.
6. Re:US slaped by market invisible hand by manu0601 · 2012-11-10 14:58 · Score: 1
  
  Or insert pro-union agitators into China.
  Then market invisible hand will move factories to Vietnam, North Korea, Niger, or whatever. Whatever salaries workers ask, there is always someone poorer ready to bid for lower
7. Re:US slaped by market invisible hand by manu0601 · 2012-11-10 15:06 · Score: 1
  
  give up on worldwide free trade.
  Or human rights tariffs, which bring goods from countries competing by abusing their workers into cost parity with goods made in countries where workers have rights.
  I assumed that US workers would not accept to sleep at the factory, cut meat in their diet by a factor ten (or more!), work 60 hours per weeks while exposed to hazardous chemicals, and have children as coworkers. I assumed that facing such a situation, people would elect someone that would fight free trade, but I could be wrong
Clearly it's because of the election by PopeRatzo · 2012-11-09 14:48 · Score: 3, Insightful

The plan was that if Mitt Romney was elected president, Foxconn would start building dormitories in the US.
They wanted to "partner" with the new private prison industry and have a two-fer.
Now those dreams are shattered because Americans are getting all uppity again that Obama's re-elected. Thinking that workers deserve "rights" and "safety" and "dignity" and all that liberal crapola. So Foxconn's going to go all Galt on our ass and keep their operations in a country that really understands the endgame of capitalism: China.
No joke.

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1. Re:Clearly it's because of the election by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 14:52 · Score: 1
  
  Please just shut the fuck up. It's really gotten old.
2. Re:Clearly it's because of the election by PopeRatzo · 2012-11-10 00:38 · Score: 2
  
  Please just shut the fuck up. It's really gotten old.
  I'm sorry, you're right. I should have been more sensitive, Mrs Romney.
  
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From Terry Gou by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 14:52 · Score: 1

2010 Terry Gou: 'If I can automate in the US and ship to China, cost-wise it can still be competitive. But I worry America has too many lawyers. I don't want to spend time having people sue me every day.'
Nothing about this situation has changed in two years.
1. Re:From Terry Gou by sethstorm · 2012-11-09 19:47 · Score: 1
  
  He should be worried more that the US government wouldn't care about silly things like national borders and treat him like he was a part of Al Qaeda.
  
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Maybe they are looking at Mexico...NO! by bigbbri · 2012-11-09 15:01 · Score: 0

They found another source of labor that won't jump from the building, young Republicans!
1. Re:Maybe they are looking at Mexico...NO! by Alex+Belits · 2012-11-09 20:34 · Score: 2
  
  labor
  
  Republicans
  lol
  
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How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work by bill_mcgonigle · 2012-11-09 15:13 · Score: 4, Insightful

Quote:

When an Apple team visited, the Chinese plant's owners were already constructing a new wing. "This is in case you give us the contract," the manager said, according to a former Apple executive. The Chinese government had agreed to underwrite costs for numerous industries, and those subsidies had trickled down to the glass-cutting factory. It had a warehouse filled with glass samples available to Apple, free of charge. The owners made engineers available at almost no cost. They had built on-site dormitories so employees would be available 24 hours a day.
The Chinese plant got the job.
"The entire supply chain is in China now," said another former high-ranking Apple executive. "You need a thousand rubber gaskets? That's the factory next door. You need a million screws? That factory is a block away. You need that screw made a little bit different? It will take three hours."

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1. Re:How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-10 09:50 · Score: 0
  
  So I'm building an electronic device in China. The board manufacturer and assembler says "no problem, the plastics factory is down the street". So we step up to full production, now it is "the plastics won't be ready for another month". Of course, I'm not Apple, but I'd take all those assurances with a grain of salt.
Re:A "salacious" report? by Tim+the+Gecko · 2012-11-09 15:18 · Score: 4, Informative

But of course!
1. lustful or lecherous.
2. (of writings, pictures, etc.) obscene; grossly indecent.
Some people harbor the fallacious belief that Slashdot has editors.
Communists vs. Unions by dtmancom · 2012-11-09 15:21 · Score: 2, Insightful

Are there ANY Chinese companies that chose to open a factory in the US, where they would have to deal with employee unions?
1. Re:Communists vs. Unions by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 16:15 · Score: 0
  
  China isn't Communist. Foxconn is a private company. And Foxconn is not from China, but from Taiwan (which is considered part of China by the Chinese government, but they don't control it in practice).
2. Re:Communists vs. Unions by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 16:32 · Score: 0
  
  There are non union states after all.
3. Re:Communists vs. Unions by AK+Marc · 2012-11-09 16:44 · Score: 2
  
  What do the unions want, softer suicide nets? There is no problem with unions in the US. You hire workers, and if they unionize, you refuse to negotiate. No union has ever negotiated a contract that the management didn't sign. So unions are the fault of the management.
  
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4. Re:Communists vs. Unions by sethstorm · 2012-11-09 19:45 · Score: 1
  
  As opposed to employer-formed unions such as contract labor, which are used in conjunction with and not covered by RTW?
  
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5. Re:Communists vs. Unions by sethstorm · 2012-11-09 19:48 · Score: 2
  
  China practices totalitarian Communism, which is worse. Given that Foxconn operates in China, the mainland factories are effectively the property of the PRC.
  
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Never happen with Unions by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 15:54 · Score: 1

Could you imagine how much an iPhone would cost if it was build with unionized American labor?
My guess would be about $12,000 for a crap model.
1. Re:Never happen with Unions by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-10 02:46 · Score: 1
  
  Economists estimate it would cost $70 more. We get it, you hate american workers. Could you at least be close to reality, though.
But it WOULD be hilarious by gelfling · 2012-11-09 16:05 · Score: 3, Funny

To watch the lemming herd of slacktards at Occupy Wall St tweet on their new $2,000 US built iPhones that they didn't pay for either about the fucking evil that is money.
1. Re:But it WOULD be hilarious by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 21:59 · Score: 0
  
  What is it about the right and strawmen?
Oh My Goddess! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 16:37 · Score: 0

Here is comes!
"That's the beuatiful thing about already have a predetermined conclusion, the facts always fit."
Ding Ding Ding Ding!
Winner!
Anthropogenic Mann Global Warming in a NutShell! :D
Where do you think they stamp the "Made in the U.S by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 17:02 · Score: 0

>> "already has multiple facilities based in the U.S"
Where do you think they stamp the "Made in the U.S.A" stickers ? There's tax cuts to consider...
to the fairest by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 17:03 · Score: 0

I put a Golden Apple of Discord on my laptop. But I doubt your average person makes the connection.
1. Re:to the fairest by nevillethedevil · 2012-11-09 21:42 · Score: 1
  
  All hail crab newburg
  
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Penis of The Tiger ! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 18:10 · Score: 0

Risin up back on the meat did my cell mate took my chances went the distance now I'm back on my feet just a man and his will to survive so many times it happens too fast you trade your penis for anus don't lose your grip on the dreams of the past you must LOL just to keep them alive
It's the penis of the tiger its the cream of the fight risin up to the challenge of our inmates and the last known pillow biter stalks his anus in the night and he's watching us all with the penis of the tiger
Face to rear out in the heat hanging balls stayin hungry the stack the odds still we take to the meat for the thrill with the skill to survive...
It's the penis of the tiger its the cream of the fight risin up to the challenge of our inmates and the last known pillow biter rubs his penis in the night and he's watching us all with the penis of the tiger
Risin up straight to the hole had the balls got the glory went the distance now I'm not gonna stop just a man and his penis to survive
It's the penis of the tiger its the cream of the fight risin up to the challenge of our inmates and the last known pillow biter greases his boyfriends in the night and he's watching us all with the penis of the tiger
The penis of the tiger...... The penis of the tiger...... The penis of the tiger......!!!!!
Going full circle back to the fox by dbIII · 2012-11-09 19:30 · Score: 1

There are no references within canon
That's OK, because there are plenty of references in Kanon to marrying fox spirits manifesting as teenage girls.
The answer is: tons of slaves. by sethstorm · 2012-11-09 19:40 · Score: 2

That boils down to large and pliant labor pool that won't ask questions about bad conditions.

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1. Re:The answer is: tons of slaves. by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-09 20:42 · Score: 1
  
  That boils down to large and pliant labor pool that won't ask questions about bad conditions.
  Did you know that working at Foxconn makes for a better salary and conditions than most other manufacturing plants in China? This is why workers line up for hours whenever they're hiring and also probably why the suicide rate for Foxconn workers is lower than the national average; and that comparison is indeed valid because their factories are so big they're more like cities.
2. Re:The answer is: tons of slaves. by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-10 05:35 · Score: 0
  
  Did you know that negro slaves in the US had superior healthcare, lodgings, and access to food than free blacks at the time? Therefore slavery wasn't bad, right? Isn't that your point? I mean, lower suicide rate than average? Sweet, where do I sign up??
BZZT - Wrong! by sethstorm · 2012-11-09 19:50 · Score: 1

Just because a state does not have a favorable climate for employee-side unions does not mean that they don't have employer-side unions such as contract labor.

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Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Re:WINDOWS PHONE 8 IS OUT NOW by Alex+Belits · 2012-11-09 20:08 · Score: 1

Shut up, Elop, and jump off your burning platform like you preached.

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Contrary to the popular belief, there indeed is no God.